Comments on: DC Voting, Fairness Doctrine and Race-Based Government: Will Mitch McConnell Fight or Play Games? http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/02/19/dc-voting-fairness-doctrine-and-race-based-governments-will-mitch-mcconnell-fight-or-play-games/ Just another RedState: Conservative News and Community weblog Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:27:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: DONTREADONME http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/02/19/dc-voting-fairness-doctrine-and-race-based-governments-will-mitch-mcconnell-fight-or-play-games/#comment-21 DONTREADONME Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:17:03 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/hogan/?p=3#comment-21 is under the US IRS Code, however, they do have some perks to living there though on the tax side as well. I just find this whole thing about DC getting a vote in Congress under an Act of Congress in clear violation of the Constitution of the US, preposterous. -and under the banner of "taxation w/o representation" not like our federal government is going to give money to states to spend on I am tired of hearing that excuse w/o Const. Ammend. is under the US IRS Code, however, they do have some perks to living there though on the tax side as well. I just find this whole thing about DC getting a vote in Congress under an Act of Congress in clear violation of the Constitution of the US, preposterous. -and under the banner of “taxation w/o representation” not like our federal government is going to give money to states to spend on I am tired of hearing that excuse w/o Const. Ammend.

]]> By: DONTREADONME http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/02/19/dc-voting-fairness-doctrine-and-race-based-governments-will-mitch-mcconnell-fight-or-play-games/#comment-20 DONTREADONME Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:08:45 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/hogan/?p=3#comment-20 By: DONTREADONME http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/02/19/dc-voting-fairness-doctrine-and-race-based-governments-will-mitch-mcconnell-fight-or-play-games/#comment-19 DONTREADONME Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:07:22 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/hogan/?p=3#comment-19 to join the Union if the U.S. stopped providing federal funding and protection. Until it is not a good deal for Guam and Puerto Rico to stay in their current state, they will be knocking at the door soon enough. Plus the inclusion of DC as a state, then we will have the Obama Heinz 57 states to join the Union if the U.S. stopped providing federal funding and protection. Until it is not a good deal for Guam and Puerto Rico to stay in their current state, they will be knocking at the door soon enough. Plus the inclusion of DC as a state, then we will have the Obama Heinz 57 states

]]> By: lapert http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/02/19/dc-voting-fairness-doctrine-and-race-based-governments-will-mitch-mcconnell-fight-or-play-games/#comment-18 lapert Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:01:33 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/hogan/?p=3#comment-18 Those who live in the territories don't pay income tax - I'd take that deal. The District is a completely unique entity in our country. I happen to agree that the best answer is probably to retrocession to Maryland with the exception of the area from the whitehouse to the capital (including the mall and bulk of federal buildings around it). Of course that too is questionable from a constitutional standpoint, but so was the return of the County of Alexandria (which is now known as both alexandria and arlington) to Virginia. Those who live in the territories don’t pay income tax – I’d take that deal. The District is a completely unique entity in our country.

I happen to agree that the best answer is probably to retrocession to Maryland with the exception of the area from the whitehouse to the capital (including the mall and bulk of federal buildings around it). Of course that too is questionable from a constitutional standpoint, but so was the return of the County of Alexandria (which is now known as both alexandria and arlington) to Virginia.

]]> By: barry915barry http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/02/19/dc-voting-fairness-doctrine-and-race-based-governments-will-mitch-mcconnell-fight-or-play-games/#comment-17 barry915barry Fri, 20 Feb 2009 03:41:39 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/hogan/?p=3#comment-17 The BFA has 177 co-sponsors in the House. It will definitely pass the House and Senate (IMHO). Please, someone confirm that our good fellow Sen. DeMint is NOT going to attach to the D.C. Bill. That would be a serious tactical mistake. The BFA has 177 co-sponsors in the House. It will definitely pass the House and Senate (IMHO). Please, someone confirm that our good fellow Sen. DeMint is NOT going to attach to the D.C. Bill. That would be a serious tactical mistake.

]]> By: barry915barry http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/02/19/dc-voting-fairness-doctrine-and-race-based-governments-will-mitch-mcconnell-fight-or-play-games/#comment-16 barry915barry Fri, 20 Feb 2009 03:39:27 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/hogan/?p=3#comment-16 Said DeMint: "“With the support of the new administration, now is the time for Congress to take a stand against this kind of censorship. I intend to seek a vote on this amendment next week so every senator is on record: Do you support free speech or do you want to silence voices you disagree with?" This is all well and good. HOWEVER, there is a very BAD rumor that he is going to attach it (The Broadcaster Freedom Act) as an AMENDMENT to the D.C. Voting Rights Bill! NO, NO, a thousand times NO. They MUST be stand alone bills. Heck, The BFA has 177 co-sponsors in the house. It Said DeMint: ““With the support of the new administration, now is the time for Congress to take a stand against this kind of censorship. I intend to seek a vote on this amendment next week so every senator is on record: Do you support free speech or do you want to silence voices you disagree with?”

This is all well and good. HOWEVER, there is a very BAD rumor that he is going to attach it (The Broadcaster Freedom Act) as an AMENDMENT to the D.C. Voting Rights Bill! NO, NO, a thousand times NO. They MUST be stand alone bills. Heck, The BFA has 177 co-sponsors in the house. It

]]> By: DONTREADONME http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/02/19/dc-voting-fairness-doctrine-and-race-based-governments-will-mitch-mcconnell-fight-or-play-games/#comment-15 DONTREADONME Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:01:25 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/hogan/?p=3#comment-15 I just do not think they pay federal "income" taxes. I am going to look into it and get back to you. Puerto Rico is treated like a state per G. H-W Bush adminstration's Ok, I looked into this a little more but I need to find corroborating reference - No income taxes but they do pay federal excise taxes, Social Security, Medicare, federal commodity etc; however, and here is the interesting part it seems Puerto Rico acts more like a State (the way the fathers wanted) then the states in the Union given the agreements with the United States Congress. I just do not think they pay federal “income” taxes. I am going to look into it and get back to you. Puerto Rico is treated like a state per G. H-W Bush adminstration’s

Ok, I looked into this a little more but I need to find corroborating reference – No income taxes but they do pay federal excise taxes, Social Security, Medicare, federal commodity etc; however, and here is the interesting part it seems Puerto Rico acts more like a State (the way the fathers wanted) then the states in the Union given the agreements with the United States Congress.

]]> By: Jeff Weimer http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/02/19/dc-voting-fairness-doctrine-and-race-based-governments-will-mitch-mcconnell-fight-or-play-games/#comment-14 Jeff Weimer Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:39:44 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/hogan/?p=3#comment-14 Which is one of the options being discussed here. It is also the one solution with precedent. Just think of the business possibilities in the district if it had no federal taxes to pay, just local. business would boom, local tax receipts would rise as more people would move to it as a tax haven, real estate demand would rise, the schools would be forced to improve, and have the funds to do so. This move has the potential to turn it away from somewhat of an embarrassment to a shining example. BTW, I always found it odd and distrubing that the local government would put the charged political slogan "taxation without representation" on <i>its auto license plates</i>. True a fact it may be, the government there, such as it is, has no business doing that as part of its official function. It all comes off a bit petulant to those of us out here. Which is one of the options being discussed here. It is also the one solution with precedent. Just think of the business possibilities in the district if it had no federal taxes to pay, just local. business would boom, local tax receipts would rise as more people would move to it as a tax haven, real estate demand would rise, the schools would be forced to improve, and have the funds to do so. This move has the potential to turn it away from somewhat of an embarrassment to a shining example.

BTW, I always found it odd and distrubing that the local government would put the charged political slogan “taxation without representation” on its auto license plates. True a fact it may be, the government there, such as it is, has no business doing that as part of its official function. It all comes off a bit petulant to those of us out here.

]]> By: JustLeaveMeAlone http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/02/19/dc-voting-fairness-doctrine-and-race-based-governments-will-mitch-mcconnell-fight-or-play-games/#comment-13 JustLeaveMeAlone Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:38:05 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/hogan/?p=3#comment-13 Since the founding, it has ever been thus. No one took voting rights away from District residents. That's the deal with DC: no congressional representation (a mixed blessing). They are free to live elsewhere and vote early and often. No one has limited their rights; no one has that right in DC to begin with. Neither would I, or you, or anyone else who moved there. And all of us are (still, as of this writing) free to move. Since the founding, it has ever been thus. No one took voting rights away from District residents. That’s the deal with DC: no congressional representation (a mixed blessing).

They are free to live elsewhere and vote early and often. No one has limited their rights; no one has that right in DC to begin with. Neither would I, or you, or anyone else who moved there. And all of us are (still, as of this writing) free to move.

]]> By: Brock http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/02/19/dc-voting-fairness-doctrine-and-race-based-governments-will-mitch-mcconnell-fight-or-play-games/#comment-12 Brock Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:33:31 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/hogan/?p=3#comment-12 What about Puerto Rico? Guam? American Samoa? The Marshall Islands? US Virgin Islands? Do all these places need full voting representatives as well? The best plan is to probably have Maryland annex D.C. What about Puerto Rico? Guam? American Samoa? The Marshall Islands? US Virgin Islands?

Do all these places need full voting representatives as well?

The best plan is to probably have Maryland annex D.C.

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