these 12 or 13 have stood FIRM on abortion and for that they are to be applauded but they did vote for the more reckless bill that came out of the House with the public option and for that they should be CONDEMNED!

…has anyone been able to depend on a dem, moderate, conservative blue dog, throughout this process? They will fold, period.

This bill while providing federally funding of abortion would, at the same time, require people who oppose abortion to directly participate by forcing them to purchase insurance.

If a person of deep convictions refused to participate they will be fined, or worse. This “catch 22″ is deliberate in my opinion and has very serious implications.

Abortion is not healthcare. In this instance is being used as a cynical cold wedge issue against people of faith. Is this really the direction our nation should be going in?

to put back the abortion coverage. If Obama keeps the Pro Lifers and flips the retirees from TN, and Matheson. He has his bill.

Politicians lack principle. Believe me I would love too be wrong about this assessment.

Now there’s a date on the calendar. Just saying…

The lips are moving, flapping, gumming, or whatever you wish to call it.

I definitely rspect Mr Bart Stupak for standing on principle against the pro-abortion crowd in Washington, its a shame there aren’t more men of principle like that on either side of the aisle. I still can’t actually believe they genuinely want to pass this thing, knowing that the voters will vote them out in 2010 and 2012 and then we’ll just kill the thing in 2013 anyway before it even goes into effect in the first place. No matter how bad a campaigner our 2012 nominee might turn out to be, all he/she has to say is ‘Vote GOP to save your Health Care’ and its all over, if they pass this thing. Can the Dems really be stupid enough to not realize something that obvious? My guess is they scheduled the vote knowing they’re going to lose, then they’ll tell their base they tried, and that will be the end of all the health care talk until after the 2012 elections at the earliest.

It is only a dozen or so Democrats in the House who stood up for keeping taxpayer funding for abortion out of any health bill. You can bet their home districts are heavily pro-life, and those in the north and midwest are heavily Catholic.

There are also four vacant seats which were among the “yes” votes in the House, so Pelosi must make up those and Cao’s (the only Republican “yes” the first time, a two-vote margin of victory) to hold a majority. That doesn’t count the 12 “yes” votes who held out for the Stupak Amendment, and who he claims will not vote for the Senate bill.

The fight over this thing is in the House. The Senate can ram through anything on “reconciliation” if they want to, but there could be long delays if Republicans are determined enough. But if the House passes the Senate bill and Obama signs it, it’s the law – with or without reconciliation.

Pelosi and Obama are shoving a socialist takeover of 1/6 of our economy with provisions for federal financing of abortions. Taxes are collected on pain of imprisonment. So basically:

–the government is holding a gun to your head saying pay your taxes
–the government would then take that money and give it to your local abortion doctor to kill babies
–Pelosi and Obama lie with a straight face about the fact their bill does this

Tax-and-spend, socialist, lying accessories to murder. That’s who is leading the Congress and the White House. No wonder the American people have had enough. I don’t want to hear any talk of third party until we give the Republicans a chance to take our country back one branch at a time (Congress in 2010 and the White House in 2012).