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Trust me, my wallet is much much cleaner, less of those “dirty” dead presidents in there now days.

He thinks with his chappaquiddick and only worries about playing up to his wife so-as to keep getting to get it M…. well… you get the poor taste joke/suggestion.

But, of course, we aren’t allow to get away with jokes like the Left can/does.

To be respectful to Benedict, I am deeply dissapointed that he is now playing politics with Global Warming. More sickening is the fact that he is now saying that humans have a right to life (absolutely), food, health and development. As to health I’m sure he means healthcare, as, to a large degree, a humans health is largely controlled by God. He apparently has buried his head in the sand on the “sham” that global warming has been proven to be. And, a human right to “development”??? And some wonder why the Catholic church is losing their congregations. I know I’ve left the catholic pews, and, my faith in God is as strong as ever.

As to Aaaahhhnold, you have a good thought there haystack. To bring environmental issues to the localities, rather than anyone expecting anyone to affect those issues half way around the world. With all of the talk of walk-outs and discord in Copenhaaaagen, it isn’t because the science is now highly questionable. It is only how much money the poorer and developing countries will get from the so called “rich” nations, including the US. Has anyone paid attention to our economy over the last year. Have they bothered to check on our deficits that grow larger each day. Yup, China has the right to scream at the US as we are so in debt with them, but, they want us to ante up the big bucks, even though they are the biggest polluters on the planet.

I knew, as did so many others, that Obama wanted to redistribute the wealth from the rich to the poor in our country. He told Joe the Plummer that. Worse now is that he wants to redistribute the US wealth (if there is any) to the rest of the world.

Not only are the Pope’s statements flat wrong, they deny the promise and power of God.

God says not to fret over what we will wear and what will we eat.

He advises us to see the birds of the air who neither reap nor sow, yet they have plenty to eat. He directs us to regard the grass of the field which is clothed in more splendid raiment than all of Solomon’s robes, but which is cut in season and cast into the fire.

No, I’m almost certain God wants us to depend on Him for our sustenance, not The Won, the gubmint, Ugo Chavez, Kim Jong Il or any other erstwhile prominence of the day whose name will likely be forgotten in a hundred years…

The secular media does such a poor job reporting on the papacy. At the very least, the context is wrong. Often the coveage is worse.

I almost choked when I read the headline at Drudge (Pope Goes Green; Blames Man For ‘Ecological Crisis’…). But clicking the link brought me to a story from….. Reuters. I just laughed. I knew it would be skewed and biased. Thanks for posting this.

and have no problem with Catholics. We are brothers on many issues — I have marched alongside them on many an abortion protest. But Much of the text excerpted above either buys into the “crisis” mentality or is simply a re-statement of the obvious.

For instance, section 4.: “Can we remain indifferent before the problems associated with such realities as climate change,…”

Climate change is a reality all right. It’s called “weather.” And most weatherpersons cannot accurately predict tomorrow’s weather, much less any long-term global trends.

And this from the same section: ” Can we remain impassive in the face of actual and potential conflicts involving access to natural resources?”

What would the Pope have “us” do? Africa possibly has the most natural resources of any continent on earth, yet its’ people are the poorest. Why? You may say colonization, but why were other cultures able to colonize Africa rather than the other way around? Could it be that some cultures, religions, lifestyle are, Heaven forfend, superior to others?! The Pope has the habit of invoking the Royal “We”, but unless we’re talkig about one-world gubmint, no one else has that luxury.

Finally, from section .4 there’s this: “All these are issues with a profound impact on the exercise of human rights, such as the right to life, food, health and development.”

To say these are “rights” is to reject the Word, Power and Promise of God. (See my post above.) God said not to fret over these things, that he would provide them IF we do our part. Do the phrases “personal responsibility”, “industry”, “initiative” or “work ethic” have relevance here? You betcha.

On to Section 5.: ” It should be evident that the ecological crisis cannot…”

Again I ask, “What crisis?” He’s buying into the Red-Green Fascists’ proposition that everything is a “crisis” which must be dealt with NOW and usually by extra-legal means and by the conglomeration of power in the hands of the few.

Further down in section 5. he talks of: “…our model of development…” and how it must be changed.

Whose model? If he means slashing and burning the rainforests, count me in. Let’s stop it now. I’ll leave it to the Pope to go down to Central America and tell the dirt poor peasant he can’t grow anymore coffeebeans in order to “Save the Planet!” If he means stopping China and India from pouring tons of third and second world pollutants into the air, I’m for that also. Just exactly HOW will we convince the Red Chinese to slow dwn or stop development? After all, the U.S. probably pollutes LEAST of all developed countries due to modern technology, etc.

Further in Section 5., after mentioning the word “crisis” fifty more times, he asserts, ” Specifically, they call for a lifestyle marked by sobriety and solidarity,…”

Oh, you mean like not living in a palace surrounded by luxury and platoons of staff who jet off to various parts of the globe on a regular basis and who produce nothing more than windy statements of unworkable “solutions” and grandeloquent remonstrances to “sobriety.” Yeah, again, sign me on. Actually, it was the U.S. which outlawed alcohol for a time, not Italy or the Vatican. Gee, how did that work out? Oh yeah, it was a FIASCO.

Moving on to section 6. Well, it’s too long to take apart piecemeal, but suffice to say that Genesis says a lot more about “having dominion over” the earth than “tilling it and keeping it”– the exact opposite of the Pope’s emphasis in this section, e.g.

“Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground…I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground — I give every green plant for food.”

—Genesis 1:28-31

the 2nd ward of Mexico

is handling their own affairs quite well. Low un-employment and balanced budgets. They also have no problem drilling for oil when they find it.

I’m glad the Catholic Church confusing to you. The Church doesn’t need any more simpletons in its ranks.

This forum isn’t the place to throw bombs at one failth or another, show some f’ing respect. As someone who is a lapsed Catholic himself, there is a focus on social justice, and thanks to RINO politiicans that seemed to be disregarding that concept, a out and out lying POS like Obama was able to convince those people that he was the one to bring the change to Washington to bring on that social justice. Also remember that he was such a blank slate about things that anyone was able to put their own hopes and dreams and said, “Yeah, he believes what I believe”.

So it was not a fault of the religion, as a matter of fact most Catholics (especially the A&P or C&E Catholics, those that are Catholic know for whom I speak), leave politics at the outside of the church door, and leave the religion at the inside of the church door right after they take communion. So when polled yeah they will say, “Yeah, I am a Catholic”. but not really know a lot of the doctrine behind what that really means.

So do me and everyone else here a favor. Save your invective for people who care what you truly think. This ain’t the site for religious debates one way or other.

Honestly, because of the actions of those from the Catholic Church I have no idea what to make of your words or the Pope’s words.

Please understand that you are doing exactly what I warned of in my first post… believing what you read in the MSM about Catholics and the Catholic Church. The MSM hates the Church. It will twist and distort anything it can about the church wherever it suits its leftist agenda. The Soros supported “Catholics for Choice” are deemed “loyal dissenters,” and feminist pro-abortion nut cases self-ordaining themselves as priests are called “courageous.” The idea of gay predators just didn’t sit well with the MSM, so even the despicable “child molesting” priests were, in reality, gay men who should never have made it through seminary preying on teenage boys. When it comes to the Catholic Church, there is no lie wild enough for the MSM.

In the case of a headline like “50% of Catholics Vote for Such and Such Radical Leftist Democrat Abortion Lover” you must consider the MSM’s definition of “Catholic” will morph to include anyone who self-identifies as a “cultural Catholic” – even if lapsed or non-practicing – or who ever darkened the door of a Catholic church at some point in his/her life. If only faithful, church going Catholics were counted by leftist pollsters, then their political affiliations would likely look about the same as your typical protestant evangelical Christian (a note of warning, the claim to the word “evangelical” is quickly catching on with leftists).

Like I stated previously, I do not go to church

Well, most all credible Christian theologians, be they Catholic or protestant, endorse the idea that Christ instituted a Church, even if they may disagree on the place of the Catholic Church in that structure. I would encourage you to meet with like minded Christians, not just for bible study, but to worship. As was once said to me… “God is God. He’ll do just fine without you. You, on the other hand, couldn’t draw your next breath without him.” We pray and worship not to bend God;s will to ours, but just the opposite.

Thanks for your honesty. You have a prayer from over here that you may sort out your confusion and replace it with the love and understanding of the Lord

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do a google search for democrat politicians being denied communion because of their advocacy of abortion and euthanasia.

“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” –Alexander Hamilton

Study at Redstate University

But it all depends where you source your news. If you continue to believe the MSM about the pope, but disbelieve it about Sarah Palin, then your personal prejudices are showing.

Vatican official warns of ‘apocalyptic’ Obama presidency

Pope challenges Obama directly on life issues

If so, why?

Now, you have to read this, or you will feel all creepy and intellectually dishonest for the rest of the day…

I CAME SO THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE LIFE AND HAVE IT MORE ABUNDANTLY. – A Homily by Pope John Paul II, 17 April 2005

The truly cool thing about JPII is that he looked up to Joseph Ratzinger as the best bible scholar the church had to offer, the staunchest defender of the Christian faith, and the man most likely to lead the church out of its politically correct morass. He refused to let the guy retire, knowing the fire power that the church would be losing. The college of cardinals agreed, and made Ratzinger JPII’s (and St. Peter’s) successor. For our trouble we got a pope who called Islam out publicaly for it’s intellectual and theologically dishonesty… and as far as I know, there is no fatwah out on him as of yet.

I read her facebook post and have now clarified in my mind why I like her and the media hates her. It’s not about intelligence,it’s about perspective. The most “intelligent”and educated minds have reduced Global Warming down to two choices; cataclysm to the right, and godhood to the left. Sarah is able to analyse from a distance and scale a fix if any, and target narrowly to the problem (if any). So many of these politicians answer any question whatsoever without giving a thought to is it true, or is it important, or is it within the scope of my constitutionally authorized responsibility.

Christopher Hitchens today called Palin “a disgraceful opportunist and a real moral coward.” That’s a lot more harsh than Arnold’s comment. How will she respond?

Newt is diffidently a CrunchyCon. He might want to hide in Europe, but we know what he is.