I believe, as does Der Spiegel, that Obama doesn’t really mean what he says about Afghanistan:
One didn’t have to be a cadet on Tuesday to feel a bit of nausea upon hearing Obama’s speech. It was the least truthful address that he has ever held. He spoke of responsibility, but almost every sentence smelled of party tactics. He demanded sacrifice, but he was unable to say what it was for exactly.
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The American president doesn’t need any opponents at the moment. He’s already got himself.
Though not a fan of Der Spiegel, I think they have this one right. In trying to find some modicum of “hope” in Obama’s campaign trail-like rhetoric, all I came up with was a terrible speech full of lies, half-truths, emptiness and half-heartedness. He really doesn’t want to deal with a war when there’s so much to be done, still, with his domestic agenda. For all the talk about security and a strong America, what Obama really wants (and has wanted all along) is to get OUT of the warfighting business all together and settle in to the Federal takeover of America’s private sector.
Our crossroad in Afghanistan today is much like the one we faced during pre-surge Iraq: cut and run, or dig in and fight. Our soldiers deserved our support back then, and they got it from right-minded Americans who (then and now) believe we must do everything in our power to stand behind our Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines. The only thing we can do now, as McCain, Gingrich, Rove, and others have pointed out is to support the President because he holds the lives of our soldiers in his hands. Obama is, after all, sending the support requested of him by those responsible for assessing and reacting to “conditions on the ground” and he has promised to allow “conditions on the ground” to dictate how they will be best utilized. I disagree with the idea that we can assure our enemies of our resolve by telling them we’ll be out just as quick as we come in, but I’m going all in with people like Pete Hegseth, and the Vets For Freedom:
“President Obama’s speech last night announcing additional troops and a robust strategy in Afghanistan is welcome and emboldening news for troops fighting on the front lines, and Vets for Freedom wholeheartedly supports this strong move. The President’s decision to follow General Stanley McChrystal’s recommendation for additional Soldiers and Marines will give the United States the chance to turn around the war in Afghanistan, and deny safe havens to America’s enemies. In the face of strong political pressure from all sides, President Obama listened to the recommendation of his commanders—all of which, McChrystal and Petraeus most importantly—believe they can execute a successful strategy on the ground with the troops the President is providing.
It is now incumbent upon both Democrats and Republicans to avoid making Afghanistan a political football. This war is neither President Obama’s, nor President Bush’s; this is America’s war—and we must all rally together to support its success. Additionally, we urge the President to continue making the case to the American people that this is a war worth fighting, and a war we must win. American public opinion will reflect forthcoming successes on the ground, provided the President is robust and frequent in his rhetorical support for the rightness of the mission.
We are disappointed by the President’s mention of a timetable in Afghanistan, however he also said conditions on the ground would be a strong factor in determining the pace and scope of such a drawdown. Once again, we urge the President to heed the advice of his war-fighters, and believe he will.
We applaud the President for listening to the commanders on the ground, giving them what they need, and urge him to now give them time needed to create success in Afghanistan. And we now look forward to working with him to ensure the mission is successful.”
Let us pray that Obama keeps his promises and the warfighters will be given what they need to get this done…and done right. While hard-pressed to find anything about this President I can honestly support, I steadfastly line up behind anything he might do that will help our Soldiers succeed in their mission and come home safely when the fighting is done.
Neil Stevens
Steve Maley
I am glad that he agreed for more troops.
antisocial (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 7:39PM EST (link)However I am curious about strategy. What IS the strategy? We don’t know. Democrats are already threatening to squeeze funds. There are lot of things that should have been debated besides the counter insurgency strategy.
1>Destroy the poppy fields and wean off Afghans from that. For instance buy off the crop and provide incentives for alternate crops. Kill the marijuana production. Drugs is a major source of terrorism funding.
2>Seal the Afghanistan-Pakistan border. The goal should be to block escape routes for terrorists on the run. That will take time due to massive requirement of troops. To accomplish that training of Afghan troops/police forces should be done at rapid pace.
3>Incentivize Pakistan to dismantle terrorist Infrastructure. Pakistan is the hotbed of terrorism.
4>Engage India for Infrastructure assistance in Afghanistan. India should be happy to help because of the fact that majority of terrorism activity in the region is directed towards India. This will impact strategic depth for Pakistan but that can be managed.
I hope these measures were discussed.
I can’t believe The President can be so confused. He managed to alienate both left and right. It takes skill to bungle so thoroughly.
Obama Doctrine – Boot On The Throat
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Poppy farmers
voxoreason Friday, December 4th at 11:14AM EST (link)I read somewhere that Afghan’s farmers were complaining that if they didn’t have the poppy fields, they couldn’t eat.
The response: Hey, you’re farmers! Grow food!
We crop-dusted Mexico’s pot fields. I don’t see why we couldn’t do the same to Afghan’s poppy fields. In the pot fields, this was done with paraquat, if memory serves, and this substance is destroyed when burned. Pot is basically designed to be burned (hence, “Wanna burn one?”), although brownie chefs might have been in trouble. Who’d want to eat burned brownies? Marijuana addicts?
Charles Dickens: The law is a ass.
Me: The government is a lard ass.
Breaking the financing should be a major component of any strategy
antisocial (Diary) Friday, December 4th at 3:49PM EST (link)I am hoping this is included in the strategy. If there is indeed a strategy. Since they can’t event prevent trespassers from WH dinner, I am not sure Obama administration is competent enough.
Obama Doctrine – Boot On The Throat
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!
It's a dissapointing message from "Vets for Freedom"
Scope (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 8:52PM EST (link)they seem to be looking real hard to find a “good” message where one may not exist. They forget that McChrystal asked for alot more troops, approximately 40,000-80,000. They also asked for more equipment, which, if I am not mistaken was not addressed in his speech.
Gen? Scales, tonight on Fox said that he talked to all the uppers, and, they told him that when an assessment is taken, in a year from now, will be looking at the troops that are on the ground now, and, not the surge troops. What the heck does that mean? The troops on the ground now are not getting anywhere. If the surge troops make a big difference, are they, and their mission going to be ignored. That of course would be because come hell or high water, the troops will be out before the next presidential campaign season. He has to get his anti-war people back on the track to vote for him. He is committing political assasination on himself.
It's a dissapointing message from "Vets for Freedom"
Scope (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 8:52PM EST (link)they seem to be looking real hard to find a “good” message where one may not exist. They forget that McChrystal asked for alot more troops, approximately 40,000-80,000. They also asked for more equipment, which, if I am not mistaken was not addressed in his speech.
Gen? Scales, tonight on Fox said that he talked to all the uppers, and, they told him that when an assessment is taken, in a year from now, will be looking at the troops that are on the ground now, and, not the surge troops. What the heck does that mean? The troops on the ground now are not getting anywhere. If the surge troops make a big difference, are they, and their mission going to be ignored. That of course would be because come hell or high water, the troops will be out before the next presidential campaign season. He has to get his anti-war people back on the track to vote for him. He is committing political assasination on himself.
He's not bringing troops home
Justin_Case (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 10:02PM EST (link)any more than he is living up to his promise to close Gitmo.
Now we're at least truthful?
jimnden Friday, December 4th at 12:05AM EST (link)Reminds me of the Nixonian – effective politically and has the added benefit of being true. Nothing The O Man says is based on truth or principal. It’s all calculated to make a political point.
Amen !
martyinaz Friday, December 4th at 11:07AM EST (link)Obama is as crafty a politician as I have ever seen. He can talk the talk. But he has zero military experience, and he left his own hand picked General, Stan McCrystal swinging in the breeze for three months while he formulated an opinion on what to do. Everything he says is politically motivated. He can talk the talk, but he sure can’t walk the walk.
Get The Job Done and Let's Go Home
scubadiver49er Friday, December 4th at 9:26AM EST (link)During the 2008 elections, Barry talked a good game about cleaning up someone else’s mess…get out of the way so I can clean it up. We must succeed in Afghanistan, to put he kabosh on this terrorist haven. So here was your big chance Big “O” to do just that. But to do it right, you have to piss off the far left, and by doing nothing here and pulling out then pisses off the rest. You did neither by not giving your own General what he actually asked for. And when will this “surge” ever happen? Who knows? You dawdled since August to come up with THIS plan?? You wasted many American lives since August by doing NOTHING!!!! You promised when you were elected to get the job done, so why aren’t you?? Viet Nam should of taught you that. The Iraqui “surge” provided some semblance of success, so why not here?? Get into this thing with everything the USA can muster, get the job done and go home. Secure the AfPak border and get binLanden, which is what you also promised to do. Patton and Eisenhower are probably rolling over in their graves right now!!! This is America??? I don’t think so, any more.
“I Just Can’t Wait to be King” – Simba from “The Lion King”, 1994
Barry Soetoro – ???
He got the broom upside down.
antisocial (Diary) Friday, December 4th at 11:43AM EST (link).
Obama Doctrine – Boot On The Throat
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!
Obama's listening to Mullah Omar, too
Veronica (Diary) Friday, December 4th at 4:20PM EST (link).. leader of the “Old Taliban” who said, days before Obama’s West Point speech:
“The expression of war on terror is a faudulent and false tool .. If they want a solution to the problem, they should first end their occupation of Afghanistan…”
Oy.
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