Count me as one among millions of the skeptics of this whole “human-induced global warming” chicken little phenomena. I believe it is, by far, the biggest money grab ever concocted by a bunch of ne’er say die hippies from the 60′s who never fully got over being ignored. That said, we have an interesting response from the head whiner caught in the middle of the aptly named “Climate Gate” conspiracy:
Michael Mann, co-author of the Copenhagen Diagnosis and lead author of the UN IPCC Third Assessment Report, blamed skeptics for taking the personal emails out of context.
“What they’ve done is search through stolen personal emails—confidential between colleagues who often speak in a language they understand and is often foreign to the outside world. Suddenly, all these are subject to cherry picking,” he said.
They’ve turned “something innocent into something nefarious,” Mann added.
The vital point being left out, he said, is that “regardless of how cherry-picked,” there is “absolutely nothing in any of the emails that calls into the question the deep level of consensus of climate change.”
This is a “smear campaign to distract the public,” said Mann. “Those opposed to climate action, simply don’t have the science on their side,” he added.
Translation?
“We, here in our cushy little echo chamber, talk in our own language of colloquialisms and double-speak and we all agree with each other. That makes us right because we’re smarter than you are.”
In a separate piece at the WSJ, the head dude at the unit where the emails were originally “stolen” from offered an even weaker faux-defense of his colleagues:
Phil Jones, director of the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit, from which the emails were lifted, is singing from the same climate hymnal. “My colleagues and I accept that some of the published emails do not read well. I regret any upset or confusion caused as a result. Some were clearly written in the heat of the moment, others use colloquialisms frequently used between close colleagues,” he said this week.
Hunh…who knew scientists could accidentally SAY the whole thing was a scam when what they meant to say was that the earth is doomed to die in 10 years?
My favorite bit in today’s episode comes from Vice-Chancellor of Research Trevor Davies, AGAIN, from the research unit where the emails were originally “stolen” from:
“There is nothing in the stolen material which indicates that peer-reviewed publications by CRU, and others, on the nature of global warming and related climate change are not of the highest-quality of scientific investigation and interpretation.”
[snip]
Professor Davies called the stolen data “the latest example of a sustained and, in some instances, a vexatious campaign” designed “to distract from reasoned debate” about urgent action governments must take to reverse climate change.
Pot? Meet Kettle. Kettle? Meet Pot.
BTW-vexatious means we, the “we don’t believe you” crowd, are annoying them.
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jccbin (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 1:56PM EST (link)If Congress and these nitwits get their way, I will shrug.
I will turn my every asset into cash or gold and I will cease to do business with these governments, these liars, these fascist progressives. And I will not support a Republican who tolerates them. Get some guts or get out. I have had it with civility.
I will make sure every tax dollar they take from me costs them 2X what they collect. I will make them feed and clothe me while I work against them. I will not work for them as a slave.
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A Generous “If” and Erroneous “Tolerates”
ntrepid (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 6:04PM EST (link)I suspect your introductory “if” will be answered in the positive very soon and “tolerates” will be supplanted by “joins”.
There should be no surprise here when the brave Sir Lindsey and his merry band speed all efforts to save us yet from this now mortally wounded theory.
Nitpicking of wording aside…I’m with you.
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The response from the left has been fascinating
ericstenner Saturday, November 28th at 2:20PM EST (link)If there really is no climate crisis that is a good thing, right? Why wouldn’t everyone want to get to the bottom of this to find out if it’s really necessary for us to reorganize the global economy because of a nonexistent problem?
It looks like this is finally starting to trickle out into the mainstream media. It will be interesting to see if/when/how the Obama administration ever acknowledges this, and whether it will have any effect on the Copenhagen talks. Is this going to be just another in a long series of appearances on the global stage where our president looks like a complete buffoon?
Not at all "fascinating". Rather it's very predictable.
mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 2:37PM EST (link)The Left bases their existence on lies. Their problem is that if Global Warming goes to hell based on the obvious lies they’ve been perpetrating, “Health Care” is next. Remember the “47MM uninsured”? It’s a lie.
Then there’s foreign policy and national security.
Oh yeah, let’s not forget their “leaders”, people like Teddy Kennedy and John Kerry who are “American heroes”.
When you build your house from cards you can’t afford to have one pulled from the foundation.
Speaking of response, has anyone else noticed
throwback59 Saturday, November 28th at 2:40PM EST (link)that since the emails got out we are suddenly inundated with stories on how global warming is worse than previously thought? It seems as if the MSM is doubling-down on their bet. They are doing everything they can to try and make ‘climate-gate’ go away.
Seems like the scientific community finally cloned a human, too bad for them it was Clifford Irving.
Here in Europe, the hype is even worse.
NightTwister (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 2:38PM EST (link)The only TV stations in English in the hotels are BBC and MTV. On BBC, all of the newscasts that referred to climate change, assumed it to be a real and immenent threat. At least back home the media pretends to portray it as not settled. I’ve heard no mention of the emails and data released either.
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There has to be some counter to this over there?
Erick Brockway (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 3:01PM EST (link)I mean, I imagine a tea party-type movement ignored totally by the MSM over there. There has to be somebody?
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I'm sure there is.
NightTwister (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 3:17PM EST (link)I’m also sure it’s much smaller and even more marginalized. The news reporters really do think of Americans as flat earthers, and how Obama may “finally bring some sense to the debate from America”. The people here have never experienced the freedom we have, so it’s really not surprising.
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NightTwister, then I'm sure the Euroweenies will be
janis (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 12:59PM EST (link)so happy to know that Obama and Co. are working feverishly to disallow that freedom thingy you mentioned. With an all too complicit media helping them at every turn….
Janis, I can say this.
NightTwister (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 1:44PM EST (link)I caused them to think, and to get them to realize that Obama is actually trying to give us less freedom than even they have. Now, that is truly scary.
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill
NightTwister, now that you mention it, I was
janis (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 3:54PM EST (link)reading a column by Gerald Warner in whichever British paper he writes for the other day. It was about Climategate. The comments were interesting for me to read, as several of the British posters were hopeful that citizens in America would be the ones to lead the way on proving how much of a fraud this subject is because we have a press that is reporting on the emails that were made public. Either they have faith in our media that we do not, or they happened to see/hear the subject mentioned on Fox or in some publication.
I wonder just how many people in other countries are beginning to wake up to the notion that America won’t be leading the charge to rescue them during the next few years, won’t be using our power as a free and prosperous nation to ride herd on the bad guys anytime soon.
What is truly painful is to realize that, thanks to Obama’s choice of world leaders to befriend, many people will look at America as one of those bad guys.
They will despise us.
NightTwister (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 6:24AM EST (link)It’s the one constant in the universe. Whether we help other nations or not, whether we do what they want (or think they want) or not, they will still despise us. This is why it is so stupid what Obama is doing by trying to make us more liked abroad. They will still despise us, but will also be snickering behind the scenes because Obama thinks he’s actually making relations better.
As for me, I’d prefer the they may not like us, but they will fear us tactic. At least you get respect that way.
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Certainly in agreement with that sentiment,
janis (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 9:49AM EST (link)NightTwister. I cannot imagine that Iran would be announcing the plans for developing 10 more uranium enrichment plants under George W.’s watch. This weak and ignorant man in the White House is setting the stage for Armageddon with his posture of weakness and appeasement. No country in the Middle East will look to him for anything but money or some mealy mouthed speech praising Muslim countries and blaming Israel.
And God knows the Russians and the Chinese plus Chavez as well haven’t hesitated to eat this guy’s lunch and then knee him in the ‘nads for his milk money.
My thoughts exactly
Erick Brockway (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 10:55AM EST (link)All that’s needed is for Israel to defend itself, Obama and his ilk will condemn…
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Erick Brockway (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 10:53AM EST (link)They despise us no matter what country they are in, France, UK, even good ol’ USA.
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Obama keeps talking about this "crisis"
Scope (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 2:42PM EST (link)as thugh the emils and data leaked never happened. In his speech, with the visiting Prime Minister of India, he still talked about the need for action, as though the Indian PM doesn’t understand english, or his interpreters don’t understand spin when they hear it. That night they had a party, or rather a state dinner, you know the one where the uninvited lady in the cherry dress showed up. This is funny because it was the Indian PM who was here at the time, who will not destroy his countrys growing economy over something not only unproven, but now disporoven.
And that "reasoned debate" would be the one they refuse to engage in?
Steve Maley (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 3:11PM EST (link)Settled science, and all.
The blogger formerly known as ‘Vladimir’.
Rush had read an article
Scope (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 4:01PM EST (link)and talked about it one day on air, after the leak, with someone advising if you own stock in any green companies to get out quick. It seems that the green companies, especially like GE are in it to win it. I suspect that since this scam started many years ago, there are alot of companies that would fold without the green movement, and, they are not going to sit back and watch the millions in their eyes dissapear. I guess with the denials we will still be obligated to buy the squiggely light bulbs, or sit in the dark.
Those being the mercury-filled squiggely lightbulbs...
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 5:58PM EST (link)to protect the environment, ya know?
You can still buy GE branded incandescents
TNJim (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 6:15PM EST (link)but they are reduced wattage. A 60-watt bulb is now 53 watts (maybe 57, can’t remember, but still). Phillips and Sylvania still sell full-power bulbs, but I wonder how long that will last. Speaking of lasting, it seems they don’t last as long as they used to. Possibly another way of trying to rope us into buying CFL’s, which are supposed to last 5 years or longer.
No, thanks. I’ll continue to buy incandescents because I don’t want to have to call a HazMat team in case of a broken CFL.
Agreed. My family's sticking to incandescents, too.
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 6:18PM EST (link)nt
can a Michael Moore-on film be far?
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 4:03PM EST (link)I mean, when Moore-on does a film it is definately “settled science” then.
lol
If there wasn’t Warming paranoia buried into 75% of all films coming out of Hollywood already he’d probably do one. I wish he would, it would go a long way to showing follks (if he believes it, you know its a “nut” idea) it is indeed all a sham Liberal/Democrat Power/Money grab.
Like all things Liberal, it all has to do with Liberal Laziness and Denial of Facts!
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Moore and Gore are equally irrelevant now.
redneck_hippie (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 4:11PM EST (link)Check Gore’s book sales of his Nov. 2009 release. Check Moore’s box office sales of his movie released Oct. 2009.
Let’s see, what other leftist cult figure is failing right now? Oh yeah, POTUS can’t even provide security on his own perimeter (supposedly).
What about all the millions and billions in the stimulus
Scope (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 4:06PM EST (link)that are going to fund the green projects. I honestly think that not only the country, but the world, have already invested so much in the movement, it would have major economic reprecussions if it was ever turned around. I wouldn’t mind seeing the cultists lose, but, has it already spread to wide and to far?
What Are We Supposed to Look For?
lukematthews (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 4:36PM EST (link)These nimrods who had their emails published are crying foul because their hoax was exposed by people who are looking for questionable practices. Should they be looking for Evites to university mixers? Should they be collecting Ecards sent for their birthdays? Should we peer into the emails about meeting someone for lunch? For heaven’s sake, of course we are looking at the emails that are shady and not the ones asking whose going to bring the cookies for the office get together. Why would we look at the emails detailing that which they have published? People want to know if there is a conspiracy, which in spite of the left’s belief system, is a secret pact and not a public one.
The only "appropriate context"
kowalski (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 4:54PM EST (link)The only “appropriate context” for those emails in the minds of the people who wrote them was for them never to have seen the light of day. What is meant by “taking them in context” really means: “You should never have seen them in the first place, corncob.”
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Can we have our incandescents back?
dsmurf (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 5:09PM EST (link)NT
And our Freon?
blooch Sunday, November 29th at 6:03PM EST (link)The Luddites got away with that fraud, probably because most of the dirty work happened before the Internet and E-mail. Operation Ozone Hole was the prototype for the GW scam.
“Lieutenant Dike wasn’t a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made no decisions.”
If Green Energy was so good...
kowalski (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 5:11PM EST (link)If Green Energy was and is so good, why — in the biggest Democrat state in the country proportionally — has Massachusetts resisted placing wind power in the NOAA Class V-VI wind area off of its coasts?
In other words, the costal areas of Massachusetts are, in the estimation of NOAA, *THE BEST* prospective areas for the development of wind energy in this country. What is being built there?
Nothing. Crickets and raindrops. There’s zero going on there.
This isn’t a meaningless question or an unimportant one politically. Massachusetts consistently has the third or fourth highest electricity rates in the country and the coastlines here have some of the *best* wind areas in the hemisphere. But there aren’t any large windfarms here, and the one or two turbines you do see are barely turning. One can only conclude that the important people who live along the coastlines don’t want them.
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Ted Kennedy was one of those who fought against it. nt
redneck_hippie (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 5:19PM EST (link)Ted Kennedy, a hypocrite? Noooo...
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 6:05PM EST (link)Since places from which you can see water
Achance (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 5:43PM EST (link)are the most expensive places in the Country, you’re pretty much only going to have “important people” directly on the coasts. It is just as true here as it is in MA or CA. You wouldn’t believe what a hovel built in the mining days in the early 20th Century along Gastineau Channel goes for here, or a “cabin” with no utilities out on Shelter Island accessible only by boat.
You’re never going to see any kind of economic activity in those areas beyond a few fashionable stores. A geographer whose name I can’t recall styled the West Coast from SEA to San Diego west of the mountains as Ecotopia. The people who live there have grown wealthy off the wealth generated by natural resource extraction, agriculture, and manufacturing east of the mountains in what the same geographer styled the Empty Quarter. The people of Ecotopia simply cannot stand to see any of the things happen that have made them wealthy and powerful; they simply will not tolerate economic activity of any sort other than shopping and a little “head work” in their field of vision. We need to round them up and send them out to work the harvests and be re-educated. Not all the communists’ ideas are bad.
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Industrial wind turbines - "windfarms"
deevee Saturday, November 28th at 5:46PM EST (link)Increase the cost of electricity plus we the taxpayer get additional “good feelings” by paying gobs of taxes subsides.
The Enron scam just keeps on taking ….from us.
Interesting
anotherindyfilmguy (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 5:56PM EST (link)I guess real Commies want “Animal Farms” instead of “Wind Farms”…
Santorum? Well, at least he’s not Romney…
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Why wouldn't they want them?
kowalski (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 5:15PM EST (link)Because it interferes with their sight lines. It’s a very beautiful area, and nobody wants to see towers with turbines on them.
They would much rather have to imagine you having them in your back yard. It’ll be something they can say makes them feel badly for the poor.
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Also the PETA people fight them..
ladyimpactohio (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 8:08PM EST (link)cuz they say the birds run into them and die.
We the people tell government what to do, it does not tell us.–Ronald Reagan in his farewell speech
Massachusetts would rather
kowalski (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 5:33PM EST (link)Massachusetts would rather buy oil from Hugo Chavez than disturb the sanctity and pristine sight lines of the wind areas near Nantucket. And that is exactly what they do. Even if energy prices here triple, there will never be wind farms off the coast of Nantucket. You can take that to the bank.
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The scientists *are* the science behind the Manmade Global Warming Issue
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 5:54PM EST (link)(Man-made modifies “Issue”, not “Warming.)
Mark Steyn of the National Review writes about this “Peer Collusion” :
Earlier in the article, Steyn cites specific actions of the thugs
If you wanna see some spin on the AGW leaks,
Achance (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 6:29PM EST (link)check this out: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/georgemonbiot/2009/nov/25/monbiot-climate-leak-crisis-response (h/t Drudge)
This one doesn’t even pass the red face on a seven year old test for lying.
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Newbusters is reporting the Penn State is investigating Mann...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 6:50PM EST (link)Someone needs to start investigating these LIARS
“In recent days a lengthy file of emails has been made public. Some of the questions raised through those emails may have been addressed already by the NAS investigation but others may not have been considered. The University is looking into this matter further, following a well defined policy used in such cases. No public discussion of the matter will occur while the University is reviewing the concerns that have been raised.”
It’s a blip but its something and I note that while the LEFTIST media doesn’t WANT to cover it little by little they are dripping it out of course with excuses prior to the story but none the less it is getting out beyond the internet.
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pardon moi that should be "that" Penn State...nt
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Jaded- Better yet
Scope (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 6:56PM EST (link)when I read the emails that were reported, Michael Mann also listed an address and contact info for University of Virginia, Charlottesville, VA. I guess he was considered a visiting professor.
Then perhaps you and I should contact the University....
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 7:12PM EST (link)and ask what they intend to do upon these “rumors” that one of their visiting professors “may” have falsified data….better yet since it is a public University WE should contact the Governor’s office…in January…heh!
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Jaded- I was mistaken
Scope (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 8:57PM EST (link)Michael Mann was a full professor at UVA, before he left to go to Penn. State. I called the number listed for Michael Mann at UVA, and, you now get some person in the Engineering Depart. at UVA. On Monday I will definately find another number to call at UVA to ask if they have any statements as to one of their formers being involved in the scandal. Being Larry Sabatos Liberal University, I’m sure I will get the run around. I’ll try though.
BTW- Virginia Tech beat UVA today 42-13. Go hookies!
That is quite a little legwork there Scope....
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 9:02PM EST (link)please do let me know if you find a number and I will of course make the call as well. The MORE of US who call the better the response. If WE all here on Monday get a number to call WE can do it just as if WE were calling our Reps because someone NEEDS to END this debacle ehh that’s too nice this LIE!!!
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Yup Jaded- we will do this
Scope (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 9:11PM EST (link)because the MSM won’t.
OBTW Scope...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 9:19PM EST (link)if you ever want to chat offline you can email me @
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kowalski- The emails did list him at UVA
Scope (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 9:03PM EST (link)and he may still be a visiting, but, he is now Penn State.
kowalski- The emails did list him at UVA
Scope (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 9:03PM EST (link)and he may still be a visiting, but, he is now Penn State.
Soon it should be State Penn for Mann
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 10:41PM EST (link)ROTFLMAO....nt
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 10:44PM EST (link)…………….
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the Trifecta!
speciallist (Diary) Sunday, November 29th at 12:17AM EST (link)epic
Wowser
locomotivebreath1901 Saturday, November 28th at 6:50PM EST (link)Sacred cows sure are noisy when slaughtered.
So, let me get this straight – glowbull warming is finally proven to be MANN made?
I’m so confused.
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That is a fantastic line btw...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 9:20PM EST (link)“glowbull warming is finally proven to be MANN made?”
It appears it is indeed Mann made!
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From American Thinker
Scope (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 6:52PM EST (link)http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/politics_and_greenhouse_gasses.html
Data that was disappeared:
redneck_hippie (Diary) Saturday, November 28th at 7:40PM EST (link)Times of London shocker – ToL looks…and sees…disappeared data.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6936328.ece
“Climate Change Data Dumped”
Another ToL piece from today:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6936289.ece
“The Great Climate Change Science Scandal”
Britain has been living under the climate regulation/tax regime for years already. Methinks it is heating up a bit across the pond.
And oBOWma takes a trip
noyoucant Saturday, November 28th at 9:57PM EST (link)Onward to Copenhagen
Onward to global socialism
Second time's a charm.
blooch Sunday, November 29th at 6:37PM EST (link)I can’t wait to see how he makes Global Warming all about him.
“…You see, growing up, my family moved around a lot. I was born in Hawaii. I lived in Indonesia for a time. I never really had roots in any one place or culture or ethnic group. And then I came to Chicago. And on those Chicago streets, I worked alongside men and women who were black and white; Latino and Asian; people of every class and nationality and religion. But they all had one thing in common with me: They were all at deadly risk from a planet being overheated by evil men. Yet, at the same time, they lacked my global experience to know it.”
“Lieutenant Dike wasn’t a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made no decisions.”