Last week, the New York Times chortled that Gov. Parnell is continuing former Gov. Palin’s efforts to remove polar bears from the “endangered” species list, after they were illegally put there in 2008 by an overzealous and undersmart Federal Fish and Wildlife Service. Leaving aside the fact that this policy 1-is illegal, 2-is likely to be disastrous for Alaska’s already fragile economy, and 3-has no discernible benefit (even liberal scientists like Bjorn Lomborg and John Cristy have said that most polar bear populations are thriving), I have a more fundamental question: if 1-3 apply to polar bears, why should they not apply, in one form or another, to any “endangered” species?
Do you believe in evolution? I don’t, but unlike our latte-sipping Prius-driving friends, I don’t assume myself to be so smart that I can know exactly how God effected Creation.
Look, one of two things is true. One, Darwin was right (unlikely), and we are all mutants. Two, Darwin was wrong (more likely). Let’s start with Two.
If Two is right, then there is certainly no need to worry about “endangered” species; species will come and go exactly as they were meant to do, and even if we tried we couldn’t affect their place or purpose on this Earth. If One is right, I believe we have a far more serious problem on our hands.
Let’s suppose for the moment that Darwinism is correct. Then, just as Americans were selected to dominate the world’s economy and diplomacy, species are selected to die or thrive based on their competence. Keeping species that were unable to survive alive then subverts evolution, and amounts to a “bailout” of species that would never be able to make it on their own. What we end up with are zombie species, capable only of surviving in zoos. OK, no problem, you say, my daughter loves looking at the polar bears in the zoo. However, more dangerous still, is that by propping up old species, we are preventing new, more evolutionarily efficient species from popping up. Indeed, by insisting on a static world and shutting down evolution, we may even be holding ourselves as Humans back, as without the interaction with new, innovative species, we have no evolutionary incentive to evolve ourselves.
“Endangered” species are thus lose/lose. Occasionally, it is harmless fun. More often, however, in the case of the “endangered” Alaskan polar bears, liberals are willing to absorb virtually any amount of lost economic growth in order to protect even one more precious animal. Yet another instance of Al Gore and his ilk solving a problem that no one was aware of but them.
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Protecting polar bear, seals, walrus, etc. has little to do with this.
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, November 4th at 7:12PM EST (link)It is all about stopping gas and oil development on the Arctic coast of Alaska and specifically, it is about stopping the State of Alaska from developing oil and gas on State lands. The Environazis have had the Fed by the short and curlies for three decades and will continue to have them, but the State really needs more producition, so the State has been making noise about it doing its own development on its own land or in State waters offshore. Can’t have them rascally Republicans in Alaska doing stuff like developing domestic oil and gas resources.
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unlike polar bears, oil actually is an endangered resource
gonzo55 (Diary) Wednesday, November 4th at 8:51PM EST (link)but the federal government’s response is to keep as much of it as possible underground and under water. That makes a lot of sense. If we can just make oil useless enough by keeping it all underground, it won’t be endangered anymore.
“Facts are stubborn things” — Ronald Wilson Reagan
Someone once said that endangered species are animals that are
Xasteius (Diary) Wednesday, November 4th at 7:17PM EST (link)either too slow or too stupid to avoid the dinner plate.
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More broadly it is about power.
regent2009 (Diary) Wednesday, November 4th at 7:42PM EST (link)I agree with this diary almost in its whole. Here is the REAL motivation for the Endangered Species Act.
1. Use it as an excuse to grab power from state and local governments. Before polar bears, it was spotted owls. Next it will be squirells in Ohio.
2. Destroy jobs.
3. Make the unemployed on government handouts. Pander to them on election day by offering them bigger handouts and less self respect.
It isn’t about Darwin. They will come up with another inane theory once we expose that nonsense.
God gave dominion over the earth and the animals to man. To reduce prosperity to protect a bunch of animals that most of us will never see anyway is anti-Christian.
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amen, and I really hadn't ever thought about whay we didn't need such an act in the first place
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 8:17AM EST (link)until this man’s logic. If we want to save a species, we could do so on a cae by case basis, with VOTES by We the People.
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Case by Case, I agree
regent2009 (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 1:09PM EST (link)OK, let me hold my nose and accept this adolescent idea of Darwinism for the sake of argument:
Cows have evolved to provide meat.
Deer have evolved to be hunted.
Dogs have evolved to provide companionship.
In all these cases, and more, local governments have protected these species. The endangedered spiecies act thus interferes with evolaution. It cannot be about the animals, it can only be about a Federal power grab. I hope this diary triggers a lot more thought by conservatives on this issue.
“I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won’t have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!,” Jerry Falwell
Microevolution versus macroevolution
gonzo55 (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 1:15PM EST (link)These are all good examples of what scientists call microevolution. I’m glad you brought this up, as the original discussion only dealt with macroevolution, or the “creation” of entirely new species from mutants. This really adds a new dimension to the original argument. Surely only entirely local control can effect, say, a new breed of dog, so by having top-down federal control over who lives and who dies, we are hindering microevolution, which is almost always controlled by humans and thus to our benefit.
Moreover, as both Darwinists and creationists believe in microevolution, your argument applies in either case, making it stronger.
“Facts are stubborn things” — Ronald Wilson Reagan
D'oh!
gonzo55 (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 1:17PM EST (link)Forgot to use the “reply to this” button, sorry. Looks like I need to evolve some more brains!
“Facts are stubborn things” — Ronald Wilson Reagan
Darwin
regent2009 (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 1:25PM EST (link)Both microstupid and macrostupid.
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It's really simple
Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 1:30PM EST (link)If man is just another species, then it is the law of the jungle that other species must adapt to us, or perish.
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