In HinzSight, Afghan address just another Dem cut-and-run


Will we look back on the President’s first address to the nation as Commander-in-Chief as just another Democratic party cut-and-run?

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*["HinzSight" reference is a tribute to the loss of a great journalist, athlete and friend of DeVine Law Gamecock, David Hinz, who was killed in a traffic accident this past Thanksgiving weekend. Our obituary is here, with other tributes at The Minority Report (which company merged with Dave's original HinzSight Report) and Many Faces of Barack). Dave's journalistic love was of foreign affairs and the war on terror, and so we will use the HinzSight nomenclature from time to time to categorize some of our writing and as a tribute to our dear friend.]

Since JFK’s death in 1963, no Democratic Party president has been feared by enemies of the United States and the party seems to go out of its way to lose wars and betray allies.

From the 1975 congressional Democrat majority betrayal of the Hmong, thru Carter’s 1979 betrayal of the Shah of Iran; thru John Kerry’s open collusion with Nicaraguan communists and Ted Kennedy’s secret alliance with Gorbachev against U.S. missiles in Europe and for the nuclear freeze in the 1980s; thru Clinton’s cut and run in Somalia, law enforcement approach to the 1993 WTC bombing thru the feckless bombing of night watchman after the African embassy act of war bombings in the late 90s; and thru the “Bushlied Era” of the mid-2000 decade, the Democratic Party has been all about exuding aggression inviting weakness to enemies abroad.

Now comes Barack Obama after:

  1. A campaign echoing the Democratic Party (fake warmongering) mantra that Afghanistan is the “good war” of necessity (as opposed to that war of “choice” in Iraq, that most all the Dems voted for with the same intel Clinton and Bush had, but I digress);
  2. A March 2009 declaration that the Afghan War had to be won with a directive to General McChrystal to come up with a strategy; and finally,
  3. After retreating from the strategy presented by his generals and a scare from his left on health care and the 2009 election disaster, with a Tuesday evening prime time speech to the nation now wanting to “finish the job” in Afghanistan.

For the record, neither DeVine Law Gamecock, nor Cockstradamus ever believed any of the Elected to serve in D.C. Democrats not named Lieberman, ever were all in for victory in Afghanistan after the first 72 hours, but only used the mantra to separate themselves from Bush and the Iraq War. Bob Shrum admitted this.

We didn’t need an admission to know that Democrats haven’t the stomach nor the smarts to win wars.

President Obama has left the troops hanging for a year as he has continued to blame Bush for “drift”, despite the fact that they adopted the Bush strategy and yet have not implemented it during their 11 months in office.

Now we are told that since Obama will request and deploy 39,000 troops that he is “essentially” meeting McChrystal’s request? Huh?

General McChrystal requested 80,000 troops and “no less than 40,000″.

It looks like what Obama has “essentially” done is slap this fine warrior down in public again (40K-1K=39K), much as his administration has been doing since the 80,000 request was made public weeks ago. Or has it been months ago!

Afghanistan is not Iraq

I have said since soon after 911 and even more so after the invasion of Iraq, that I favored the Rumsfeld small footprint strategies, especially in Afghanistan given its tribal nature, geography and history of large footprint failures by the UK and USSR. The only defeat of the Russian army in history was in Afghanistan.

Yes, let us kill all the Taliban and al Qaida that we can; remove the safe nation-state haven; keep troops enough to prevent all but deadly havens for al Qaida and the Taliban; give the Afghans (90% of whom loathe the Taliban and al Qaida) a chance at a republic; and keep watch over Iran and Pakistan.

This is not Iraq sitting on vast oil reserves in Persian Gulf. I was for the surge after the necessary stay the course so we could get intel for a surge. I was for making Iraq into Connecticut, which it essentially is now. Pray God don’t let Democrat Obama snatch defeat from victory in Iraq like his counterparts did in Vietnam.

But Afghanistan is not Iraq, and so I am receptive to a lesser surge strategy that mainly keeps the country from becoming a safe haven for launching attacks on the US and keeps troops close to Iran and Pakistan for deterrence and rapid response reasons.

Dems like to end, not win wars

But when I hear a Democrat President that has never acknowledged the great victory in Iraq, speak of “ending” the war in Afghanistan; and of not wanting to “hand off” Afghanistan to a successor, I hear that familiar limp-wristed Democrat loser refrain that sounds like fingernails scratching a chalkboard. Specifically, this statement:

“My preference would be not to hand off anything to the next president.”

Kind of like Clinton didn’t “hand off” anything on Somalia and Afghanistan? Usually when Democrats speak of no handoff, they mean that they have already lost the last war, with no mention of the ones they make inevitable.

These people giggled when Ronaldus Magnus called the Soviet empire, evil.

This is what we are dealing with, but, I am an American and Barack Obama is my President and the ONLY Commander-in-Chief we have. If a strategy is to succeed in foreign affairs, it will be Obama’s and no other.

And, like I said, I am receptive to a less than Connecticut strategy there. But it is essential that we not betray our freedom loving allies and that we are not SEEN as cutting and running.

Obama’s apology tours give me no solace that he doesn’t WANT us to be seen as cowardly losers, but maybe Election Day 2009 concentrated his mind to understand that at least for the next 3 years, HE IS AMERICA and maybe his manhood will insist that he be feared.

I just hope that a few years down the road, we can say in HinzSight* that Obama did right by our troops and this nation’s national security.

Mike DeVine’s Charlotte Observer, Atlanta Journal-Constitution and Minority Report columns

“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

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Obama is an appeaser. He hates to send 35T soldiers but he has to make faces.

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 2:29PM EST (link)

Not for winning Af-Pak.

… but for standard photo-ops.

I am really concerned about Obambi’s “sincerity” on this decision.

Indecisiveness of a CnC kills soldiers … lots.

I pray for the safety of our military men in Af-Pak.

amen and agreed - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 2:41PM EST (link)

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Ya know...

Ned Reck (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 7:37PM EST (link)

I got some buddies who are in the armed services…

From what I gather in conversations…and listening to their reminisces of the previous administration… it seems like the soldiers on the ground would

Much prefer to have a decisive blatherer… than a dazzlin’ ditherer.

Just my take…

Ned Reck

On the plains of “Hesitation”… lie the blackened bones of
countless millions… who… at the dawn of victory…
sat down to rest… and while resting….. DIED.
~ Anonymous

 
 

at least Bush didn't have to get on TV to make a darn decision...

DONTREADONME (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 3:51PM EST (link)

or tell the American people that he’s about to have a sacred Bowel Movement.

This guy is NO leader, he’s a bureacrat that can not make a decision. No decision is sometimes more dangerous than committing to one.

Monica Crowley on O'Reilly last night used a great phrase:

Flagstaff (Diary) Thursday, December 3rd at 12:32AM EST (link)

“After months of indecision, [Obama] finally decided to be irresolute.”

“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

 
 

It really makes wish you had never given him the benefit...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 5:22PM EST (link)

of the doubt doesn’t it GC? This Idiot was NEVER going to be a good President for the United States because the reality is Democrats have made AWFUL Commander in Chiefs because they don’t have the kahunas to WIN anything but power….they are so DESPERATE to be loved by the greater world they NEVER take into consideration that they will NEVER love us but they have ALWAYS feared us EXCEPT when tools such as Carter and Clinton and now the WORST excuse for a “warrior” WE have ever had are in office.

Republican President MUST ALWAYS come into office cleaning up the weaknesses that Democrats have placed in the system and so it will take a couple of years after WE send The Idiot home to be as safe as we were in the past 7 years!

Given how watered down my benefit of doubt was and given that we are stuck with him for 4 years, ...no, but really jaded, you are reaching! smile - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 7:09PM EST (link)

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reaching how?

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 7:20PM EST (link)

Jaded, since you brought this up, wouldn't it be more appropriate if you cited specific quotes?

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Tuesday, December 1st at 1:06PM EST (link)

Rather than some vague attack on my rooster! smile

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GC- To give Obama the benefit of the doubt

Scope (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 8:07PM EST (link)

even in a watered down version is more than generous. He told every living being in this US what he was going to do. His associations, his previous writings, his affiliations with some more than nefarious groups. To give him the benefit of the doubt, you would have to have been a part of the denial group who believed that he was going to be a centrist president. I believe you to be much smarter than that. I did have some reservations when you posted a diary putting Bob Barr in a favorable light, and by extension, the ACLU, when I consider the ACLU to be as damaging to the US as much as ACORN.

Now, you say that you were for the Rumsfield small footprint strategy. At that time, with the small footprint, our troops took over cities, regions and etc, but, as soon as they left, and moved on, those same areas went right back into enemy hands, or at best into looters hands. Wasn’t that considered a major faux paus in the Iraq war?

In Afghanistan, to put a small footprint in that country, would be even a more enormous mistake. The Americans need to go all in, with everything we’ve got, I believe as McChrystal requested. Do the job, shock and awe style, or don’t go in at all. I am really really confused why you would want a trickle in strategy, including what may be a part of the strategy that we send in more state department people to talk nice to the Afghans. Afghanistan now has about 40,000 Afghan troops/police trained, somewhat. And, I’m not sure that they have any alligegence to the country, rather than the money.

Why ever in hell would you support a policy that is nothing more than send our troops in to get blown up, with few to no troops to be at their backs, and, to simply stand on the corner to insure that the Afghans are doing their part.

There is no cost to my version of benefits of doubt, but we still have

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Tuesday, December 1st at 1:08PM EST (link)

no quotes from me to disect, do we!

I stand amazed at what folks want to talk about, but stand ready.

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Lets have a tax hike and call it war exit strategy - follow up blog link

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Tuesday, December 1st at 1:18PM EST (link)

http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/12/01/obamas-tax-hike-as-war-exit-strategy/

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Beautiful diary GC! Not sure I can stomach his speech tomorrow

nessa (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 6:21PM EST (link)

I’m going to try but it will probably be cut short when he meets my expectations of spinelessness.

“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

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nessa, I never watch him speak anymore - I read transcripts. I catually got to this point with Bush

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 7:11PM EST (link)

but it was after 6+ years!

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just to threadjack your diary Mike...

kyle8 (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 7:13PM EST (link)

congrats on a good win from the old ball coach, that was a fun game to watch.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

thx Kyle, it did salvage the season - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Tuesday, December 1st at 1:17PM EST (link)

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I have been thinking about it for a week now

antisocial (Diary) Monday, November 30th at 11:54PM EST (link)

I feel we will soon start seeing timetables being discussed. We have already seen statements about Afghans taking over responsibility. Couple of years ago I might have applauded. Right now I think there is no intention to win.

Good diary GC.

Obama Doctrine – Boot On The Throat
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What is to be done?
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No. You can’t – Moe Lane
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!

What is your take on today's historic speech?

antisocial (Diary) Tuesday, December 1st at 9:43PM EST (link)

It had Bush. Economy.. Mess.. Withdrawal…

I think my worst fears were confirmed.

Obama Doctrine – Boot On The Throat
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What is to be done?
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No. You can’t – Moe Lane
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!

 
 

I wonder...

JustLeaveMeAlone (Diary) Tuesday, December 1st at 1:49AM EST (link)

… what brand of running shoes POTUS will have on? Will he be stylin’ a pair of Nikes for his cut & run?

Yanno, I could almost respect him if he would just say, “I don’t see a victory here, so I’m pulling the USA out”. At least ~that~ would be taking a stand.

But to take half-measures, reminiscent of LBJ’s “escalation” in Viet Nam? That’s insanity and a waste of American lives.

But Obama lacks the conviction and the intestinal fortitude to back this conflict with the resources needed for victory. I believe it’s a planned strategy — throw in more troops, watch the war go south and get more unpopular, and then reluctantly (seemingly) throw in the towel. AKA the politics of apeasement, Obama style.

“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson

GC afghan cut and run follow up column #1 - LINK

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, December 2nd at 1:36PM EST (link)

http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/12/02/obama-war-tax-exit-strategy-slaps-mcchrystal-med/

Follow up #2 tomorrow will disect the vile speech

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GC, I tried to watch last night...

nessa (Diary) Wednesday, December 2nd at 1:42PM EST (link)

I made it about three minutes, or 47 “I’s” depending on how you measure one of Ofama’s speeches.

By then the adrenaline was flowing freely, with the late hour and the ranges all closed I had to split wood to get it out of my system. I think we’ve got enough for the rest of the winter now.

I’m looking forward to your analysis.

“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

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