[Part one of Mike DeVine's report on Fox Business Channel's, John Stossel's speech last week at Atlanta's Emory University Law School may be reviewed here.]
No more Emmys for you
John Stossel made a name for himself at ABC as the nation’s best consumer affairs reporter. Last Wednesday, before his “Bashing Business” lecture at Emory Law School’s Tull Auditorium, John Stossel was introduced as a six-time Emmy award winner.

After describing his metamorphosis from big government liberal to free market libertarian, Stossel advised the audience that he won no more Emmys when he started defending private business. He thinks that the fact that market competition actually protects consumers more than government is just too counter-intuitive for too many people in an affluent society that take wealth creation for granted.
DeVine Law agrees, but during a conversation with Atlanta’s guest, we both also agreed that possibly the best hope for a political education in the incompetence of Big Government is taking place as we speak, courtesy of the ObamaDems.
Americans don’t like meddlers
Your humble rooster greeted Stossel as a conservative fan, and even after he described his radical libertarianism (favors abortion on demand; same-sex marriage and drug legalization), we still welcome his philosophy with open arms as his consistency in opposition to government meddling in the affairs of adults, is quite impressive.
No, DeVine Law is still a pro-life defender of marriage who favors a go slow approach on surrendering in the Drug War, and would a oppose such libertarian GOP primary candidates who face strong conservatives that share Stossel’s pure conservative economic views.
But we can’t build a governing majority at the federal level without libertarians, and Stossel is as good an advocate for the free market in economics as one can find. Stossel recently on the Health Care Bill now before Congress:
The 1,990-page bill is breathtaking in its bone-headed audacity. The notion that a small group of politicians can know enough to design something so complex and so personal is astounding. That they were advised by “experts” means nothing since no one is expert enough to do that. There are too many trade-offs faced by unique individuals with infinitely varying needs.
Government cannot do simple things efficiently. The bureaucrats struggle to count votes correctly. They give subsidized loans to “homeowners” who turn out to be 4-year-olds. Yet congressmen want government to manage our medicine and insurance.
Competition is a “discovery procedure,” Nobel-prize-winning economist F. A. Hayek taught. Through the competitive market process, we producers and consumers constantly learn things that force us to adjust our behavior if we are to succeed. Central planners fail for two reasons:
First, knowledge about supply, demand, individual preferences and resource availability is scattered — much of it never articulated — throughout society. It is not concentrated in a database where a group of planners can access it.
Second, this “data” is dynamic: It changes without notice.
No matter how honorable the central planners’ intentions, they will fail because they cannot know the needs and wishes of 300 million different people. And if they somehow did know their needs, they wouldn’t know them tomorrow.
His opposition to “meddlers” reminds of what I consider the sine qua non discourse on same at Hillbilly Politics:
We all know at least one person who meddles in everybody else’s business… and we hate them. There are any number of reasons why we hate them but the most frequent answer to such a question as why is we are adults, not children, and can handle our own lives just fine without interference…
So what does that have to do with politics, you ask?
Simply, if we hate that kind of interference in our daily lives, why did a majority of Americans elect to office a bunch of meddling mothers and mothers-in-law?
* You can’t stimulate the economy by restricting it. If you’re lucky you merely maintain the status quo. If you’re unlucky, as is usually the case, the meddlers make things worse. Propping up failing businesses that didn’t tend to the business of business, aka customer service, only closes the window of opportunity for others to do it better. Entrepreneurship languishes in limbo in this case.
* You can’t replace existing energy with energy that hasn’t been developed yet and you can’t force it by restricting the use of existing energy resources…
You can read all of StephC’s essay here.
After that, check out John Stossel’s 2006 bestseller, Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity: Get Out the Shovel – Why Everything You Know is Wrong (now in paperback).
Liberals prefer to pass new laws when existing laws are more than adequate
One of the most prescient points that Stossel made in Atlanta last week, that was also made by Bob Barr of the AJC, echoes something I discerned about liberals long ago, when in my trial lawyer heyday. Someone would commit a crime or someone would be hurt at work or by a product and the liberal (and, to be fair, not a small number of Republicans in legislatures) knee-jerk response would be to pass a new law to “solve the problem.”
No matter that the “problem” is us. Since Eve bit the apple or, to be more specific, since Cain slew Abel, man has killed, stolen, and been negligent. Moses gave us the Ten Commandments and England gave us the Common Law, and there hasn’t been much improvement on them over the past 3000 years.
But that doesn’t stop leftist Utopians from thinking they can meddle with Titanic deck chairs and make man perfect, and it surely doesn’t stop politicians from the goal of being seen as “doing something” in order to keep the cushy job that requires them to hold their hands out like beggars 24/7 365.
The (Bob) Barr Code:
At a recent Commerce Committee hearing, during which concerns were raised about the constitutionality of such legislation, and about the principle of “federalism,” Rockefeller proudly proclaimed his constitutional disinterest thus — “I don’t really give a hoot about states’ rights or federal rights on this one. I care about results.” The “results” include another nail in the coffin of constitutional governance in the United States.
Meddlers will never cease, so neither must we small government conservatives and libertarians. Let us reason together at the federal level and compete over social issues at the state level.
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Nor will meddlers ever admit
Steph C (Diary) Monday, November 23rd at 12:46PM EST (link)their meddling is the cause of their failures. It will ever be “someone else’s” fault.
Glad to find myself in such good company as John Stossel.
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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I am happy to be you and his company - nt
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, November 23rd at 12:55PM EST (link)Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
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aesthete (Diary) Monday, November 23rd at 1:15PM EST (link)The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton
Big fan of Stossel
tankertodd (Diary) Monday, November 23rd at 2:12PM EST (link)One of the impacts of Obama and Big Government is that I question more the role of government in our lives. That leads me to question legislation around marriage and drugs. I would favor liberalizing both since the government that can tell you you can’t take this drug or that drug is powerful enough to take your property or enroll you in a stupid ponzi scheme against your will. It’s all a question of degree for me at this point. I don’t want the government in our lives, and to what extent we can safely pull that off we should at least consider. Legalizing all drugs tomorrow would be a catastrophe. Legalizing gay marriage tomorrow would be a mess but we could work through that.
Abortion is the big exception. An abortion affects another life. I define a life as a human being with its own DNA and blood supply. A fetus has both. How people don’t make that argument with respect to abortion is beyond me. It isn’t the woman’s body – it’s someone else’s. You can’t mess with it any more than you can mess with another person.
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The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race – Chief Justice Roberts
People want to have their cake (sex) and eat it too (not have to eat less cake due to pampers bill) and
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Tuesday, November 24th at 6:51AM EST (link)in Roe v Wade, Pandora’s Box was opened for barbarism against really small people. It shows how barbaric we are.
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John Stossel isn't pro-choice like Rudy et al
pilgrim (Diary) Monday, November 23rd at 7:13PM EST (link)It is important to remember that he can be pro-choice and against meddling by the government to have to pay for a woman to get an abortion. In other words he believes a woman can choose a legal medical procedure of abortion, but she does not have an extra entitlement right to have her abortion paid for by taxpayers if she doesn’t have the money for it. This is in stark contrast to Rudy Giuliani who believes and said during the last primary that a woman has a fundamental right to choose abortion, and since it is a right then a poor woman should have public tax dollars pay for it. It made me wince when I heard him say that.
As a social conservative I gladly accept John Stossel’s company in taking on the fight against the big government meddlers in DC who are dismantling the US economy.
Yes, I am happy that JS is against govt funding for abortions, but that is a puny distinction given
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Tuesday, November 24th at 6:55AM EST (link)Yes, I am happy that JS is against govt funding for abortions, but that is a puny distinction given that we have had 49 million+ abortions since 1973, a small % of which have been paid for by the govt, and even fewer of which would not have occurred but for govt funding.
One of my great fears in the health care debate is that more dems cave on socialized medicine just because they can wave around a flag that they saved babies lives from govt funded abortions, when all they have done is posture over a provision that saves ZERO baby lives but vote for a bill that ruins the lives of us all.
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the concept is a huge not puny distinction
pilgrim (Diary) Tuesday, November 24th at 12:07PM EST (link)There are people who believe that a woman has a fundamental right to choose an abortion in the same way as the fundamental right to legal counsel. To paraphrase Miranda…You have a right to an abortion, and if you can not afford an abortionist then an abortionist will be provided for you.
You are talking statistics instead of concept.
I don’t know how many abortions were performed in the US before the Roe decision in 1973, but it wasn’t a puny statistic. I am against abortion on demand, and John Stossel’s views on the issue trouble me less than Rudy Giuliani’s views.
yes, only in the context of the percentage of abortions paid for by the govt and
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, November 25th at 9:25AM EST (link)the numbers that would otherwise not take place, is it puny. Clearly any number is bad and the concept of govt paying for “rights” is a huge concept that is one of the main ones that has us slouching towards Gomorrah.
agreed
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I can understand John Stossel's views.
penguin2 (Diary) Monday, November 23rd at 8:53PM EST (link)The problem I see happening is a lot bigger than meddling. The Radical Left is intent on a Socialist takeover of the country. Their tactics are fascist. In other words, meddling is too mild a word for what is happening. Maybe it is as Rockefeller is quoted in your diary, disregarding state and federal rights, he goes on to say “I care about results.”
This is what we are dealing with, a radical Socialist power hungry group with an agenda that is so foreign to the average American, they have no idea of the extent of change destined for their lives. Perhaps it can be equated with the extreme scenes of the 60′s, only we have extreme without the violence.
Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. – Benjamin Franklin
When Good stands up to Evil, Evil blinks. – Vassar Bushmills
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so penguin, do you agree with this line of the diary?
pilgrim (Diary) Monday, November 23rd at 9:05PM EST (link)I think we need to grow our numbers to fight this radical power hungry group with an agenda that currently occupy WH and a majority in Congress.
Yes pil' I can go with that. Lots of tolerant bones in me.
penguin2 (Diary) Monday, November 23rd at 9:28PM EST (link)My main concern is the intolerance the Left has for us Social Conservatives. If it comes down to allowing the states to control these issues, then one can certainly choose to live in a state which most acceptable to their way of life. The critical issue for me, is the infringement on my right to adhere to my beliefs.
The Social Conservatives have not only abortion to struggle against, but the idea of forcing us to accept practices that go against our faiths. For example, Catholic Charities in Mass. have to give up doing any adoptions because the state was trying to force them to allow gay couples to adopt, or the threat that Catholic hospitals or physicians face on having to perform abortions, etc. I know there is current protection by law, but we have to constantly battle for our right to not participate in something against our conscience. If that can be resolved, I have no problem limiting my thinking on what others do in their lifestyle, only in the context that the viciousness of the Left is imposing their will against my freedom to choose otherwise. If Libertarians can accept Social Conservatives in the context that we frame our lives, I certainly can accept theirs. At least I think we have more in common with them and we can work together.
Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. – Benjamin Franklin
When Good stands up to Evil, Evil blinks. – Vassar Bushmills
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we agree, two "P's" in a GC pod....nt
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