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	<title>Comments on: Maj. Hasan as Anita Hill and Ft. Hood as Virginia Tech?</title>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hmtksteve</title>
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		<dc:creator>hmtksteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am seeing a disturbing trend on the left in describing his reasons for going crazy and attacking soldiers.

The line used (several variations) is as follows: &quot;Hasan was about to be deployed and he did not want to fight against arabs and muslims, people he identifies with.&quot;

The problem with that line is that it is wrong. We are not in Iraq to fight against &quot;arabs and muslims&quot;. We are in Iraq to fight against extremists and terrorists. If Hasan was finding commonality with the enemy then he was finding it with the terrorists and not the average citizens!

The use of the above line is a bit of anti-war subterfuge. While it sounds good on the surface it is a misrepresentation of who we are fighting against.

Would we expect an [enter ethnic/religious group here] cop to not fight crime when it is purpetrated a member of the same ethnic/religious group? Of course not!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am seeing a disturbing trend on the left in describing his reasons for going crazy and attacking soldiers.</p>
<p>The line used (several variations) is as follows: &#8220;Hasan was about to be deployed and he did not want to fight against arabs and muslims, people he identifies with.&#8221;</p>
<p>The problem with that line is that it is wrong. We are not in Iraq to fight against &#8220;arabs and muslims&#8221;. We are in Iraq to fight against extremists and terrorists. If Hasan was finding commonality with the enemy then he was finding it with the terrorists and not the average citizens!</p>
<p>The use of the above line is a bit of anti-war subterfuge. While it sounds good on the surface it is a misrepresentation of who we are fighting against.</p>
<p>Would we expect an [enter ethnic/religious group here] cop to not fight crime when it is purpetrated a member of the same ethnic/religious group? Of course not!</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If either the one with the noses or the one about the tea party phone calls is up, my computer won&#039;t display the Reccos, Red Hot, the diary list, or the comments.  I just work around it by refreshing until there&#039;s a different ad or going through My Profile or Recent Comments to get to things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If either the one with the noses or the one about the tea party phone calls is up, my computer won&#8217;t display the Reccos, Red Hot, the diary list, or the comments.  I just work around it by refreshing until there&#8217;s a different ad or going through My Profile or Recent Comments to get to things.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we didn&#039;t separate an obvious dangerous subversive from the non-subversives.

Are you saying that we didn&#039;t want to pay him for the balance of the K?

and btw, the comments and recco diaries aren&#039;t showing up on my screen. Anyone else have that problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we didn&#8217;t separate an obvious dangerous subversive from the non-subversives.</p>
<p>Are you saying that we didn&#8217;t want to pay him for the balance of the K?</p>
<p>and btw, the comments and recco diaries aren&#8217;t showing up on my screen. Anyone else have that problem?</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>of years in exchange for all the government paid education.  So, the issue wouldn&#039;t be resigning a commission, it would be abrogating a contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of years in exchange for all the government paid education.  So, the issue wouldn&#8217;t be resigning a commission, it would be abrogating a contract.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nilram</title>
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		<dc:creator>nilram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Ft Hood we are not allowed to carry personally owned weapons on post. The only exception is when taking the weapon to a range and in that case the weapon must be unloaded and inaccessible i.e. in the trunk for vehicles having one.  Furthermore any weapon stored on post ( in on post housing or the armory, soldiers are not allowed to store weapons in their barracks rooms) must be registered with the provost marshal. This policy was recently relaxed and now non-registered weapons can be transported from off-post to the ranges.
 
From what I understand these policies are not unique to Ft. Hood and are common to army posts.  

What I find most ironic is that many of these soldiers who can&#039;t be trusted to carry their own weapons are now standing guard outside the PX&#039;s and commissaries with M-4&#039;s. I assume they are loaded. I didn&#039;t ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Ft Hood we are not allowed to carry personally owned weapons on post. The only exception is when taking the weapon to a range and in that case the weapon must be unloaded and inaccessible i.e. in the trunk for vehicles having one.  Furthermore any weapon stored on post ( in on post housing or the armory, soldiers are not allowed to store weapons in their barracks rooms) must be registered with the provost marshal. This policy was recently relaxed and now non-registered weapons can be transported from off-post to the ranges.</p>
<p>From what I understand these policies are not unique to Ft. Hood and are common to army posts.  </p>
<p>What I find most ironic is that many of these soldiers who can&#8217;t be trusted to carry their own weapons are now standing guard outside the PX&#8217;s and commissaries with M-4&#8242;s. I assume they are loaded. I didn&#8217;t ask.</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not just from their units, but from the Army.  They have More power than the EEO bureaucrats, in most cases.

Walter Reed is too close to D.C. The C.O. there would have been politically incapable of kicking him out.
Hasan&#039;s new C.O. would not have.  All he needed is the paper trail.

That happens all the time, too.  And is almost Always the case when the former C.O. does not give a transferring soldier high marks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not just from their units, but from the Army.  They have More power than the EEO bureaucrats, in most cases.</p>
<p>Walter Reed is too close to D.C. The C.O. there would have been politically incapable of kicking him out.<br />
Hasan&#8217;s new C.O. would not have.  All he needed is the paper trail.</p>
<p>That happens all the time, too.  And is almost Always the case when the former C.O. does not give a transferring soldier high marks.</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not because we&#039;re not allowed, for the most part, but because we feel safe there.  We tend to leave our weapons in our rooms or houses when we&#039;re on base because we feel safe.  This is no longer the case.

Why were the soldiers in that room completely unarmed?
They did not have their Army issue weapons because those are kept under close guard.  There is significant worry that someone might forget his weapon, leave it lying around or that someone might decide to sell &quot;his&quot; weapon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not because we&#8217;re not allowed, for the most part, but because we feel safe there.  We tend to leave our weapons in our rooms or houses when we&#8217;re on base because we feel safe.  This is no longer the case.</p>
<p>Why were the soldiers in that room completely unarmed?<br />
They did not have their Army issue weapons because those are kept under close guard.  There is significant worry that someone might forget his weapon, leave it lying around or that someone might decide to sell &#8220;his&#8221; weapon.</p>
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		<title>By: Uma Richie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uma Richie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is that personnel turnover is relatively quick -- assignments generally run from 18 to 36 months.  Some are even as short at 12 months.  In that timeframe, people change jobs within their commands due to promotion, reorganization, or a scheduled mid-tour move.  So a whack job could conceivably work for three different people in 18 months and then move on to the next assignment.  That leaves little time to discover a personnel issue and little incentive to deal with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is that personnel turnover is relatively quick &#8212; assignments generally run from 18 to 36 months.  Some are even as short at 12 months.  In that timeframe, people change jobs within their commands due to promotion, reorganization, or a scheduled mid-tour move.  So a whack job could conceivably work for three different people in 18 months and then move on to the next assignment.  That leaves little time to discover a personnel issue and little incentive to deal with it.</p>
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		<title>By: David123</title>
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		<dc:creator>David123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when his loyalty to his oath and to the United States became questionable.</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Mullins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Mullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>since I know things to be true on the acceptance of PC and other bad things. Personally, I see BAMC being the prison for Major Hasan at this point.</description>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Richard Mullins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Mullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but strange things have happened. Sending him to BAMC(the rooms are large enough to secure), they should keep alive long to hear why he did it. So sending by helicopter a good 150+ miles to keep him alive for a while was understood. Oh well, I can even think of where they keep this trash in(I know the New BAMC[I have to distinguish from the Old BAMC that still around but not a hospital] very well and get around the massive brick hospital). 

BTW Mike, good diary again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but strange things have happened. Sending him to BAMC(the rooms are large enough to secure), they should keep alive long to hear why he did it. So sending by helicopter a good 150+ miles to keep him alive for a while was understood. Oh well, I can even think of where they keep this trash in(I know the New BAMC[I have to distinguish from the Old BAMC that still around but not a hospital] very well and get around the massive brick hospital). </p>
<p>BTW Mike, good diary again.</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very little of the military are gun toters and correspondingly few really have the warrior ethic that we admire in the military.  Yes, everyone does have to go through Basic and maintain some military readiness, but outside the actual guntoters and the men who lead them, the military is just another federal agency and its member are distinguished from other federal bureaucrats by the uniform and little more.  I&#039;ve worked around and with lots of retired military and they make just as good a slug in the workforce as anybody else except that many of them are very adept at and almost singly-mindedly committed to gaming the system to get another retirement vested.

If you&#039;ve been a manager or supervisor in a government, Hasan&#039;s story is an easy one to understand.  First, he gamed not just a degree but also a medical doctor&#039;s ticket out of the military, that&#039;s seven or eight years of full time school, not soldiering beyond probably having to muster from time to time.  Now, the Army has a huge investment in him and will be reticent to dismiss him because of that.  Then, discrimination rules are viciously enforced in government bureaucracies because they are viciously gamed by bureaucrats.  So, nobody would want to discipline him because the discrimination and harassment charges are almost automatic.  And, frankly, if someone is a member of a protected class, the supervisor and co-workers are guilty until proven innocent.  I&#039;m frankly surprised that he has any negative appraisals.  And since they knew they had a problem employee and they knew that they hadn&#039;t effectively dealt with him and in the Obama climate probably could not effectively deal with him; Democrats fill the EEO slots first and give the EEO officers and investigators carte blanc to go after managers and supervisors, they were stuck with him.  So, somebody in the chain of command got clever and decided to deal with him by palming him off on somebody else.  The reason I&#039;m surprised by the talk of negative appraisals is that usually supervisors give glowing appraisals to troublemakers to make it easy for them to transfer or promote.  In this case, they apparently force transferred him out of the Walter Reed sinecure and into a combat unit thus making him someone else&#039;s problem.  Pretty standard bureaucrat fare and the reason there are so many whackjobs and incompetents in high places in government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very little of the military are gun toters and correspondingly few really have the warrior ethic that we admire in the military.  Yes, everyone does have to go through Basic and maintain some military readiness, but outside the actual guntoters and the men who lead them, the military is just another federal agency and its member are distinguished from other federal bureaucrats by the uniform and little more.  I&#8217;ve worked around and with lots of retired military and they make just as good a slug in the workforce as anybody else except that many of them are very adept at and almost singly-mindedly committed to gaming the system to get another retirement vested.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve been a manager or supervisor in a government, Hasan&#8217;s story is an easy one to understand.  First, he gamed not just a degree but also a medical doctor&#8217;s ticket out of the military, that&#8217;s seven or eight years of full time school, not soldiering beyond probably having to muster from time to time.  Now, the Army has a huge investment in him and will be reticent to dismiss him because of that.  Then, discrimination rules are viciously enforced in government bureaucracies because they are viciously gamed by bureaucrats.  So, nobody would want to discipline him because the discrimination and harassment charges are almost automatic.  And, frankly, if someone is a member of a protected class, the supervisor and co-workers are guilty until proven innocent.  I&#8217;m frankly surprised that he has any negative appraisals.  And since they knew they had a problem employee and they knew that they hadn&#8217;t effectively dealt with him and in the Obama climate probably could not effectively deal with him; Democrats fill the EEO slots first and give the EEO officers and investigators carte blanc to go after managers and supervisors, they were stuck with him.  So, somebody in the chain of command got clever and decided to deal with him by palming him off on somebody else.  The reason I&#8217;m surprised by the talk of negative appraisals is that usually supervisors give glowing appraisals to troublemakers to make it easy for them to transfer or promote.  In this case, they apparently force transferred him out of the Walter Reed sinecure and into a combat unit thus making him someone else&#8217;s problem.  Pretty standard bureaucrat fare and the reason there are so many whackjobs and incompetents in high places in government.</p>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>izoneguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to carry out that sentence.....

That is if the guy lives long enough to even get court martialed.</description>
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<p>That is if the guy lives long enough to even get court martialed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>will get it.</description>
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