That’s a combination of “troll” and “tool.”

Which corporations were run through commerce instead of National security that helped the Chinese from blowing up their rockets at launch time? All this for some campaign cash and some coffee meetings with bundlers.

but I was referring only to the fact that Joe stood with Clinton as Bill lied about his situation. The vote probably ended correctly.

When you peed on insurance companies, funny you didn’t mention the AARP, who sold their support for a sweetheart deal on their insurance policies at the cost of the seniors who will have to buy them to fill in the increasing gaps caused by cutbacks in Medicare that Obamacare is also prescribing.

Or the other players who sold out for a cut of the pie, who were good guy with this administration (included the above mention Hartford insurance companies) until some them figured out that they the deal was off and they were being thrown under the Obama bus. It wasn’t until they protested that they suddenly got slimed. After all, in the mind of the left, there is not such thing as good faith opposition: just “my way or the highway” (under the bus).

Yes, there are lots of better ideas of health reform, such as allowing insurance companies to sell across states lines, tort reform. But the Democrats have stuffed any discussion of them and then complain that they’ve got the best idea because they won’t allow any other ideas to be voiced. That’s called chutzpah.

Most of your other comments are straight trolling.

However, back to “the least amongst us” – it’s not very charitable to raise prices, decrease the number of health providers, kill research and innovation, and arbitrarily restrict services and prolong access time to treatment. But I wouldn’t want to disturb your rote recitation of Obama’s talking points.

By the way, the One who spoke of “the least amongst us” was named Jesus of Nazareth, and many of us are quite acquainted with Him and all His words, so you needn’t be reticient to identify Him.

However, you also need to be prepqred to explain how that phrase has the slightest bit to do with Obamacare. And He never advocated his followers to work to make Caesar more powerful and more overbearing.

And the mantra “I got mine now you get yours” is all in your head; it’s certainly not anything that is being expressed here at RedState.

I suspect you won’t be around long at this speed…

As for your claim that we can’t afford the status quo, why not? It’s a heck of a lot cheaper than anything your side has come up with so far. How about the whopping big bonus that this health care bill will give to trial lawyers, hmmm? The bill offers states money to come up with alternative ways of dealing with medical lawsuits besides litigation. But the catch is that ANY state that has made its own laws for tort reform is excluded from the program.

How’s that for “reform”? As to your assertion that we all feel “I got mine now you get yours”, that’s the thinking of the party in power currently. Although they are doing it one better, ” I’ve got mine and I’m coming for yours, too.” Swell folks. And those same swell folks are the ones least likely to donate their own money to help someone else. But they’ll damned sure be happy to donate mine.

**”Joe instead is doing the bidding of those in Hartford that just happen to own insurance companies.”**

Got some proof?

**”It’s ironic how there wasn’t any discourse concerning deficit spending for the Iraq war or what we’re spending in Afghanistan, which isn’t exactly cost efficient either.”**

There is a difference between paying for national defense, a Constitutionally mandated duty, and paying for insurance for everybody and his brother, partly by forcing people who don’t want it to buy insurance for themselves, a Constitutionally questionable gimmick.

The war in Iraq will soon be over (unless you want to count it as over already), and the war in Afghanistan will end someday relatively soon. When they do, we’ll still be paying through the nose for ObamaCare Insurance, and our health care will have deteriorated because of it.

The deficit has gone from less than $500,000,000,000 to over $1,400,000,000,000 in less than a year, almost a triple. The health care madness will guarantee that will continue for years to come. Obama’s spending plans are to drive us from the current $12,000,000,000,000 in national debt to about double that in 10 years, and in truth it will be even worse.

**”we’re judged by how we treat the least amongst us.”**

Passing this bill will treat them worse, not better. Nearly one-half trillion dollars cut from Medicare, $400,000,000,000 added to our tax burden, and higher premium costs for the 85% of Americans who already have health insurance.

And it will saddle our children, their children, their children, and their children ad infinitum with an unrecoverable debt coupled eventually with rampant inflation.

If you get nothing else, get this. We’ll be borrowing about one trillion dollars per year to cover our shortfall, every year for at least the next ten years. Then, we’ll need to borrow more. At some point, the people we’re borrowing that money from (remember them?) will decide we are bad credit risks, and won’t lend any more. That’s when the interest rate hits the up elevator, BEST CASE. Worst case, they won’t loan us any more money.

**”The current health bill is flawed, granted, but we can’t afford to continue the status quo either.”**

Your biggest miss of all. The status quo is not to do nothing, but to continue making incremental changes to the health system that can be observed and modified. Let’s start with eliminating abusive medical lawsuits and allowing health insurance policies to be provided across state lines. Both of those measures will help reduce health costs without reducing the availability of health care.

considering that the health care propositions being advanced by the Democratic Congress are massively unpopular among the constituents of many Democratic Senators, including the blue dogs. So I take it that you are fine with them representing their constituents’ interests by voting against the bill.

What numbers do you have to support that the majority in Connecticut want a public option on healthcare?

I live here and I’m not familiar with any numbers that overwhelmingly support a public option.

Not a huge fan of Joe, but I tell ya, I’d take a second look come re-election time.

Also, isn’t Joe taking care of Connecticut by factoring in the insurance companies. They do employ a crap load of people in Connecticut.

The status quo doesn’t have to continue. Give those who don’t have coverage some sort of SCHIP plan on the cheap and leave the rest of us alone.

If this health insurance is going to be soooooo wonderful, how come the unions will be exempt and all of Congress?

Support for the public option specifically seems to run around 40% nationally, depending which survey you want to believe. I tend to believe people with great records on predicting actual outcomes on elections, like Rassmussen. I know Connecticut is left of center, but I doubt the support there is more than 10% different than it is nationally.

Also, by your same logic, if a majority nationally oppose a public option, then Obama should oppose it since he was elected to represent the entire country.

I get where gamecock was going, but why create another Mccain? God knows we are damaged enough by the 1.0 version.

it look like he is poised to do something