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	<title>Comments on: Argentine fact shows Sanford story was never a non-story [updated]</title>
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		<title>By: civil_truth</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/06/22/drive-bys-know-where-sanford-is/comment-page-1/#comment-5574</link>
		<dc:creator>civil_truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your points are well taken. 

What struck me was that the extreme recklessness (or cluelessness) for Gov. Sanford, just days after the whole blow-up about Sen. Ensign, to have suddenly taken off secretly for Argentina for a week for as assignation with his paramour without telling anyone and without communicating with anyone during his time away, wife included, as to where he was gone (or worse, perhaps lying to his staff where he had gone) and expected that he could get away with it.

But on reflection, I agree that trying to make a competition between this (hopefully) single episode and a lifetime pattern of reckless behavior by our ex-President was out-of-bounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your points are well taken. </p>
<p>What struck me was that the extreme recklessness (or cluelessness) for Gov. Sanford, just days after the whole blow-up about Sen. Ensign, to have suddenly taken off secretly for Argentina for a week for as assignation with his paramour without telling anyone and without communicating with anyone during his time away, wife included, as to where he was gone (or worse, perhaps lying to his staff where he had gone) and expected that he could get away with it.</p>
<p>But on reflection, I agree that trying to make a competition between this (hopefully) single episode and a lifetime pattern of reckless behavior by our ex-President was out-of-bounds.</p>
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		<title>By: Flagstaff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flagstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only meant to reply to this sentence:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I think Gov. Sanford has taken over the “reckless” crown from Bill Clinton.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That was over the top.  He isn&#039;t even the President, and he&#039;s not a serial adulterer (he says), and his paramour is an adult, not an intern.  Nowhere near as reckless.  BC is still the King.  Sorry I wasn&#039;t more clear.

I agree that the press will do its best to make the rest of your comment come true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only meant to reply to this sentence:</p>
<blockquote><p>I think Gov. Sanford has taken over the “reckless” crown from Bill Clinton.</p></blockquote>
<p>That was over the top.  He isn&#8217;t even the President, and he&#8217;s not a serial adulterer (he says), and his paramour is an adult, not an intern.  Nowhere near as reckless.  BC is still the King.  Sorry I wasn&#8217;t more clear.</p>
<p>I agree that the press will do its best to make the rest of your comment come true.</p>
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		<title>By: civil_truth</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/06/22/drive-bys-know-where-sanford-is/comment-page-1/#comment-5572</link>
		<dc:creator>civil_truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not singling out Sanford (I was including Ensign in the 3rd paragraph).  Nor was I attempting to thereby exculpate our Congressional leadership, NRSC for their shortcomings.

Rather, (as I alluded to in the 4th paragraph), I&#039;m talking about the developing of a conditioned reflex among voters, and each reinforcement progressively becomes harder to overcome. It&#039;s the drip, drip, drip on the Republican rock that threatens at some point to seriously weaken it.

We do need to keep the focus on Obama and the Democratic extreme policies. But our job is made so much harder when our leaders create the distraction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not singling out Sanford (I was including Ensign in the 3rd paragraph).  Nor was I attempting to thereby exculpate our Congressional leadership, NRSC for their shortcomings.</p>
<p>Rather, (as I alluded to in the 4th paragraph), I&#8217;m talking about the developing of a conditioned reflex among voters, and each reinforcement progressively becomes harder to overcome. It&#8217;s the drip, drip, drip on the Republican rock that threatens at some point to seriously weaken it.</p>
<p>We do need to keep the focus on Obama and the Democratic extreme policies. But our job is made so much harder when our leaders create the distraction.</p>
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		<title>By: civil_truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>civil_truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Flagstaff</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/06/22/drive-bys-know-where-sanford-is/comment-page-1/#comment-5570</link>
		<dc:creator>Flagstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in trouble in Congress right now--health &quot;care,&quot; cap and tax; and Iran mis-steps while Citigroup has blown up in his face.  Plus, his press-related photo-op didn&#039;t go well yesterday.  Those problems were getting some airplay, finally.  Let&#039;s see what the lead on the alphabet news is for the next week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in trouble in Congress right now&#8211;health &#8220;care,&#8221; cap and tax; and Iran mis-steps while Citigroup has blown up in his face.  Plus, his press-related photo-op didn&#8217;t go well yesterday.  Those problems were getting some airplay, finally.  Let&#8217;s see what the lead on the alphabet news is for the next week.</p>
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		<title>By: Flagstaff</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/06/22/drive-bys-know-where-sanford-is/comment-page-1/#comment-5569</link>
		<dc:creator>Flagstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sanford is a putz, but I&#039;ve seen Bill Clinton, and he&#039;s no Bill Clinton.  He&#039;s not even a John Edwards.  Let&#039;s not try to blame future Republican shortcomings on Sanford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sanford is a putz, but I&#8217;ve seen Bill Clinton, and he&#8217;s no Bill Clinton.  He&#8217;s not even a John Edwards.  Let&#8217;s not try to blame future Republican shortcomings on Sanford.</p>
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		<title>By: civil_truth</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/06/22/drive-bys-know-where-sanford-is/comment-page-1/#comment-5568</link>
		<dc:creator>civil_truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Gov. Sanford has taken over the &quot;reckless&quot; crown  from Bill Clinton.

It&#039;s a real stain on our political leadership today that when I heard about this trip to Argentina, my first thoughts were suspicions of sex and adultery. Even worse that this actually turned out to be true.

After the past week, it&#039;s going to be a long, long time before the American public is going to take any Republican politican seriously about supporting family values. 

And the operant conditioning of the American people from these episodes will further fray the trust that Americans are willing to put in Republican politicians and by association, damages the credibility of the Republican party - which is particularly damaging when you&#039;re a shrinking minority to start with.

A dark day for the Republic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Gov. Sanford has taken over the &#8220;reckless&#8221; crown  from Bill Clinton.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a real stain on our political leadership today that when I heard about this trip to Argentina, my first thoughts were suspicions of sex and adultery. Even worse that this actually turned out to be true.</p>
<p>After the past week, it&#8217;s going to be a long, long time before the American public is going to take any Republican politican seriously about supporting family values. </p>
<p>And the operant conditioning of the American people from these episodes will further fray the trust that Americans are willing to put in Republican politicians and by association, damages the credibility of the Republican party &#8211; which is particularly damaging when you&#8217;re a shrinking minority to start with.</p>
<p>A dark day for the Republic.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/06/22/drive-bys-know-where-sanford-is/comment-page-1/#comment-5567</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t affecting an election.

Plus we can quickly get back to talking about the Obama agenda for increasing unemployment, now that the Stimulus is proven to be a miserable failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t affecting an election.</p>
<p>Plus we can quickly get back to talking about the Obama agenda for increasing unemployment, now that the Stimulus is proven to be a miserable failure.</p>
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		<title>By: Flagstaff</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/06/22/drive-bys-know-where-sanford-is/comment-page-1/#comment-5566</link>
		<dc:creator>Flagstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I &#039;d hate to see how.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I &#8216;d hate to see how.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/06/22/drive-bys-know-where-sanford-is/comment-page-1/#comment-5565</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back to watching what industry Obama wants to take over next.</description>
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		<title>By: civil_truth</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/06/22/drive-bys-know-where-sanford-is/comment-page-1/#comment-5564</link>
		<dc:creator>civil_truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please tell me this is just a TV soap opera.</description>
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		<title>By: ZootSuit</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/06/22/drive-bys-know-where-sanford-is/comment-page-1/#comment-5563</link>
		<dc:creator>ZootSuit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wrong -- he was doing something wrong.

I&#039;m depressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wrong &#8212; he was doing something wrong.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m depressed.</p>
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		<title>By: naraht</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/06/22/drive-bys-know-where-sanford-is/comment-page-1/#comment-5562</link>
		<dc:creator>naraht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least at the state level, it seems like more of those going after Sanford are Republicans than Democrats. I know that South Carolina is a fairly Republican controlled state, but statements like &quot;All we have had is lies, lies, lies and coverups&quot; from a Republican member of the State Senate don&#039;t help him. 

I don&#039;t know if we&#039;ll ever know specifically how the MSM would have handled Maryland Gov O&#039;Malley (D) doing the same thing, but I think that this story would have viewed as &quot;fun&quot; by at least the  MSM in the state, regardless of which party the Governor was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least at the state level, it seems like more of those going after Sanford are Republicans than Democrats. I know that South Carolina is a fairly Republican controlled state, but statements like &#8220;All we have had is lies, lies, lies and coverups&#8221; from a Republican member of the State Senate don&#8217;t help him. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if we&#8217;ll ever know specifically how the MSM would have handled Maryland Gov O&#8217;Malley (D) doing the same thing, but I think that this story would have viewed as &#8220;fun&#8221; by at least the  MSM in the state, regardless of which party the Governor was.</p>
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		<title>By: mom2oneson</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/06/22/drive-bys-know-where-sanford-is/comment-page-1/#comment-5561</link>
		<dc:creator>mom2oneson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just feel bad.. I mean who knows what is going on that we don&#039;t know! Maybe he went to visit his a sick sponsor child or who knows but he may not be able to disclose it. I don&#039;t think he has an obligation too tell us either unless he missed something and Father&#039;s Day is not a &quot;something&quot; plenty of good men are not holiday men.
BTW I subscribed to your site, what a nice surprise seeing your new article in my inbox when I wake up! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just feel bad.. I mean who knows what is going on that we don&#8217;t know! Maybe he went to visit his a sick sponsor child or who knows but he may not be able to disclose it. I don&#8217;t think he has an obligation too tell us either unless he missed something and Father&#8217;s Day is not a &#8220;something&#8221; plenty of good men are not holiday men.<br />
BTW I subscribed to your site, what a nice surprise seeing your new article in my inbox when I wake up! <img src='http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ZootSuit</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/06/22/drive-bys-know-where-sanford-is/comment-page-1/#comment-5560</link>
		<dc:creator>ZootSuit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s like the old political adage, &quot;It&#039;s not the act that was a crime, it was the cover-up.&quot;

There was nothing wrong with Mark Sanford going to Argentina. The problem was him not telling his staff so that this issue became a major story.

Hey, I&#039;m libertarian enough to think that this country would be better off if all it&#039;s elected officials vanished for a week (or month or year or term) or two. The problem with Mark Sanford is not that he &quot;vanished&quot; but that it was not communicated correctly by him to his staff and, consequently, from his staff to the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s like the old political adage, &#8220;It&#8217;s not the act that was a crime, it was the cover-up.&#8221;</p>
<p>There was nothing wrong with Mark Sanford going to Argentina. The problem was him not telling his staff so that this issue became a major story.</p>
<p>Hey, I&#8217;m libertarian enough to think that this country would be better off if all it&#8217;s elected officials vanished for a week (or month or year or term) or two. The problem with Mark Sanford is not that he &#8220;vanished&#8221; but that it was not communicated correctly by him to his staff and, consequently, from his staff to the public.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/06/22/drive-bys-know-where-sanford-is/comment-page-1/#comment-5559</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mom2oneson</title>
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		<dc:creator>mom2oneson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes people appear flaky or whatever but actually they are dealing with something they have not disclosed and doing the best they can to deal with it.
I&#039;ve lied before about where I was or where I was going. I knew they were the type to &quot;talk&quot; not to put me in danger but because they want to be friendly and polite and nice to whoever would ask them. 
We don&#039;t know what he is dealing with. I think he needs a better PR person and someone to tell his wife it&#039;s ok to hang up on a reporter or shut the door in their face but aside from that I think we shoudl give him the benefit of the doubt and not add more stuff onto the bus. There is that old expression if you need to ask you don&#039;t need to know. Unless he missed some kind of govenor has to be one of the warm bodies at a function we should not concern ourselves with it. If they thought he was in some kind of danger law enforcement should have been contacted. If law enforcement was contacted AND they told the press he was missing, well that I could see, but just the press, no way, that is like worse than talking to the old ladies at church, the only thing that can from it is gossip and damage to both reputations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes people appear flaky or whatever but actually they are dealing with something they have not disclosed and doing the best they can to deal with it.<br />
I&#8217;ve lied before about where I was or where I was going. I knew they were the type to &#8220;talk&#8221; not to put me in danger but because they want to be friendly and polite and nice to whoever would ask them.<br />
We don&#8217;t know what he is dealing with. I think he needs a better PR person and someone to tell his wife it&#8217;s ok to hang up on a reporter or shut the door in their face but aside from that I think we shoudl give him the benefit of the doubt and not add more stuff onto the bus. There is that old expression if you need to ask you don&#8217;t need to know. Unless he missed some kind of govenor has to be one of the warm bodies at a function we should not concern ourselves with it. If they thought he was in some kind of danger law enforcement should have been contacted. If law enforcement was contacted AND they told the press he was missing, well that I could see, but just the press, no way, that is like worse than talking to the old ladies at church, the only thing that can from it is gossip and damage to both reputations.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also poor management, and irresponsibility.

Pretty sweeping attacks on the Governor, all hanging on a thread of a single trip.

What responsibilities did he neglect?  What tasks didn&#039;t get done due to poor management?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also poor management, and irresponsibility.</p>
<p>Pretty sweeping attacks on the Governor, all hanging on a thread of a single trip.</p>
<p>What responsibilities did he neglect?  What tasks didn&#8217;t get done due to poor management?</p>
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		<title>By: ZootSuit</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZootSuit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am simply saying that his handling of this situation makes him open to accusations.</description>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re the one accusing Sanford.  You tell us what went wrong.</description>
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