Obama Dems: Doing for free what enemies would pay them to do


And you thought five years of the "Bushlied" lie was bad?

From the diaries by Erick.

Would Usama bin Laden and KSM (pictured, who gave up intel that saved LA from its 911 thanks to waterboarding), Iran’s Mullahs and MembersOnlyJacket-ijad, and Kim Jung Il prefer that CIA agents fear prosecution by succeeding administrations for the carrying out of lawfully given interrogation orders? That CIA lawyers fear such prosecutions for confidential legal opinions?

The answer is obvious, yet President Obama is criminalizing politics and the fighting of wars much like a new junta taking over after a coup:

Senior members of the Bush administration who approved the use of waterboarding and other harsh interrogation measures could face prosecution, President Obama disclosed today. He said the use of torture reflected America “losing our moral bearings”.

He said his attorney general, Eric Holder, was conducting an investigation and the decision rested with him. Obama last week ruled out prosecution of CIA agents who carried out the interrogation of suspected al-Qaida members at Guantánamo and secret prisons around the world.

Obama, taking questions from the press during a visit by King Abdullah of Jordan, reiterated he did not believe in prosecution of those CIA agents who carried out the interrogations within the guidelines set down for them. But “with respect to those who formulated” the policies, “that is going to be more of a decision for the attorney general within the parameters of various laws”. He added: “I don’t want to prejudge that.”

Ewen MacAskill on Obama’s reluctance to prosecute torturers Link to this audio He also opened the way for a Congressional inquiry into the issue.

Meanwhile the former US vice-president Dick Cheney has called for the disclosure of CIA memos which reveal the “success” of torture techniques, including waterboarding, used on al-Qaida suspects under the Bush administration.

Before the New York Times became the de facto agent of our enemies a few years ago, adversaries from the old USSR (now Russia), Red China (still pretty red), Saddam Hussein (now dead), Iran (surrounded), North Korea and al-Qaida (now decimated) spent millions on espionage to secure classified information that would give them an advantage in their wars and competitions against us.

They are saving millions now, as it seems the only classified information these days are current legal memos of the Obama Administration. All information gathered by that inferior version of the United States of America known as the Ante-Obam-ellum Era is more available for inspection than the paintings on the walls of the White House seen during public tours.

All in the name of feeling better that we have the “moral high ground”? Or was it that we have removed a “recruiting tool” after 911? No matter that al Qaida’s recruited enough converts before 911 to carry out numerous attacks against America for a decade before and on 911, all before the enhanced interrogation days launched after said 911.

Who needs spies or even a Manchurian candidate when Americans elect a man tutored on “G-D America” sermons with political allies that regret they hadn’t bombed police stations and the Pentagon more?

And by the way Dear Communist Leader of our “equal” Nicaraguan partner, don’t blame me for President Kennedy’s attempt to save Cuba from a 50-year old Island-wide gulag.

After all Barry was only a baby? No word yet on whether James Earl Ray and Sirhan Sirhan should be pardoned since B. Hussein Obama had not reached puberty when their crimes were committed.

But this penchant (see passion) for leftist Democrats to do the bidding (see aiding and abetting) for our enemies, albeit without “adhering”, isn’t new, as in:

1) John Kerry’s trip to Paris to conspire with the Communist North Vietnamese;
2) The Church Commission’s decimation of the CIA and the Democratic Party majority’s abandonment of the then victorious South Vietnamese;
3) Sen. Ted Kennedy’s then secret attempted sabotage with the KGB of President Reagan’s strategies to defeat the Soviet Union;
4) Kerry and other Democrats’ public support for the Communist Sandinistas in Nicaragua while President Reagan was supporting the freedom fighting Contras;
5) Preventing, since 1978, the expansion of domestic oil exploration and recovery as well as the building of any new oil refineries and nuclear power plants; and, most recently
6) The aggression-inviting weakness of the 2003-2009 Bushlied Democrats that prolonged the Iraq War and cost more American lives by emboldening our enemies to fight on ’till their party took control of the Executive branch;

The Democrats cost the United States victory in the Vietnam War and are responsible for millions of lives slaughtered after we denied support for the champions of freedom in Southeast Asia, but thankfully, we eventually won the Cold War despite the above and President Carter’s indictment of a supposed “inordinate fear” of Communism.

And President Bush, the GOP and a remnant of JFK Dems won the Iraq War, for all intents and purposes, and even Obama seems content to let stand…so far.

But that same Obama is gutting the Defense budget including Strategic Missile Defense while Il ballistic missiles fly over Japan for potential Iranian customers to view; Poland, Ukraine and the Czech Republic see Obama and Medvedev look into each other’s non-souls after our President saw moral equivalence between Russian invaders and Georgians’ occupied; all while touring the world with Mr. and Mrs. Mea Culpa getting top billing on the itinerary.

We the People overcame past Democratic Party versions of “patriotism” to emerge as a City still Shining and still on top of the Hill.

I fear that after four years of Obama and these Dems, we may have to cross Delawares and enlist Old Hickorys in Nawlins in order to climb back up the Hill and restore our Liberty lighting luminescence.

Gamecock heard the fox guarding the hen house joke for years. It came true on Inauguration Day, but one good sign: The original Shining began with a Tea Party.

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“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

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Thumbs up, Mike!! Required reading for all patriots!!

izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 9:57AM EST (link)

n/t

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

 

Stellar Mike...really good work...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 10:19AM EST (link)

I really like how you worked in the communist tendencies of the Mass. Liberal Club.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


Tnaks Aa and IZ, much appreciated - The Elephant never forgets

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 11:17AM EST (link)

what his former donkeys have done.

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It's going to happen again.

Achance (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 10:33AM EST (link)

As I commented here: http://www.redstate.com/daveleroy/2009/04/23/that-torture-memo-is-so-obama/#comment-38

We are going to abandon the Middle East and Africa and the jihadis are going to exterminate Israel and conquer the rest of Africa. Then, what’s left of the US after we can’t get ME oil and the Chinese call our debt is up for grabs.

In Vino Veritas

Sounds like our dire scenarios completely overlap

civil truth (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 10:54AM EST (link)

As I outlined here earlier this morning in overly sketchy form.

Not to mention Russia and its capturing of oil to Europe – they’re just waiting for the right moment to take over Georgia and the Crimea and get a stranglehold on oil access.

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

http://www.gmsplace.com/

 

Thanks for recco and I fear a (great) chance-stradamus is right - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 11:19AM EST (link)

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Pres Obama and SecDef Gates are both

Flagstaff (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 7:30PM EST (link)

prone to giving up without a struggle, it seems.

“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

 
 

One quibble...

Steph C (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 10:38AM EST (link)

I don’t think they’re doing it for free. They’re getting paid by somebody. In addition they’re robbing the country blind in the bargain.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics

Well, I can think of 300 million that are paying them (salaries) now: We the People and

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 11:20AM EST (link)

that millions more will pay in the future!

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That's not exactly what I meant, lol.

Steph C (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 12:08PM EST (link)

The Clintons played footsy with China. The technology that China is developing is largely due to Clinton’s lack of foresight in selling off that technology. Kerry, Kennedy, et al played footsy with the USSR, Obama seems to be playing footsy with every tin pot dictator who has money to burn, KOS was one of the brain children of the Clintons, and is heavily funded by the Soros Foundation. Not to mention all the big businesses that have gotten bailed out and then nationalized who were all big supporters of the Democrats during their respective elections.

Of course, I have my suspicions and none of it provable at the moment and no, I’m not calling Soros in as a straw man without proof but when Obama says one thing one day and not 24 hours later after getting a message on his blackberry says the opposite, who is pulling the strings? It’s certainly not Obama and I doubt it’s really Congress, either.

Plus, I’ll be the first to admit I’m one paranoid old lady, :-)

Some part of us 300 million were conned and yes, we’re paying their salaries but on top of those salaries, they picking our pockets for any scrap we have left.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics

Well, I think these peoples' mindset doesn't require payment, but no doubt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 12:31PM EST (link)

that the less ideologocal Clinton was happy to have the Saudis and China pay for the campaigns and double-wide library while selling out. Obama also took money from foreigners, and with respect to the ones in Europe I find it ironic that he then trashes Chuchill’s bust, PM Brown and Sarkozy anyway!

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Oh go ahead. Make Soros a straw man. It's called

Flagstaff (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 7:32PM EST (link)

connecting the dots. We need to keep practicing it, because DHS is ready to forget.

“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

You know, that's kinda funny.

Steph C (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 7:36PM EST (link)

Here I mention this stuff this morning and O’Reilly is supposed to be saying something about Soros tonight. It’s going to be real interesting to here what he has to say… that is, if I can sit through the entire thing to find out. I find him rather tiring to listen to more than a few minutes.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics

I agree completely on O'Reilly.

Flagstaff (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 9:27PM EST (link)

He is hard to watch sometimes. He needs a bit more humility and to listen more than he talks.

I usually grade him a B-; about the same for Hannity.

“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

If he mentioned Soros, I missed it.

Steph C (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 9:30PM EST (link)

That tends to happen because I tone him out. Sorry about that. It might have been interesting.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics

I didn't see it, either. nt

Flagstaff (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 3:05PM EST (link)

“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Your fears are well founded, GC.

stang (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 10:43AM EST (link)

The left is not likely to relinquish power easily. We repeatedly fail to recognize that the left does not abide by the same rules as we do, does not share common goals with us, nor do they act in what we commonly refer to as “in good faith”.

When the rule of law has been rendered moot, if it hasn’t already, the choices that lovers and defenders of liberty will be left with if this great nation is to survive as a constitutional republic, will not be pretty. An examination of the history of our founding should be explanation enough.

“Is there not some chosen curse, some hidden thunder in the stores of heaven, red with uncommon wrath, to blast the man Who owes his greatness to his country’s ruin?”

Joseph Addison

“Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence.”

John Locke

amen stang, and too many of our elected Republicans are so fearful of the Drive-bys' PC police

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 11:21AM EST (link)

yet, what are they fearful of after losing majorities and watching the country destroyed?

maybe soon, things will get so dire that they understand they have more to lose by remaining cowards than by fighting back.

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They are fearful of losing their sinecures.

stang (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 11:40AM EST (link)

It is doubtful that they will ever understand the direness of our situation as most did not seek office to serve their country or “protect and defend The Constitution” in the first place.

They are small men if we dare call them men at all. They are moral cowards and frauds and we will pay a heavy price for their failure to live up to their namesake.

“Authority has always attracted the lowest elements in the human race. All through history, mankind has been bullied by scum. Those who lord it over their fellows and toss commands in every direction and would boss the grass in the meadow about which way to bend in the wind are the most depraved kind of prostitutes. They will submit to any indignity, perform any vile act, do anything to achieve power. The worst off-sloughings of the planet are the ingredients of sovereignty. Every government is a parliament of whores. The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us.”

P.J. O’Rourke

“Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence.”

John Locke

thanks for those stang and O'Rourke quotes of brilliance - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 12:32PM EST (link)

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My Reco button is invisible today

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 11:37AM EST (link)

When I get it back I’ll be sure to reco this, Mike. It’s right on the money.

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

Erick front paged it, so no recco button. nt

Achance (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 11:39AM EST (link)

In Vino Veritas

 

thanks EPU, but what Ac said - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 12:32PM EST (link)

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Go see Kim..Go see Kim..Go see Kim...Kim's used ICBM's

speciallist (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 11:40AM EST (link)

“I’ll stand on my little pointy head to sell you a Ballistic Missile…I’ll stand on my pointy head, till your country turns bright Red…Go see Kim”

Pic later

It's Kim Jong Il and his dog Bam! (nt)

Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 11:45AM EST (link)

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“I rejoice that America has resisted.” – William Pitt, the Elder

 

Does anybody not from The West get this?

Achance (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 11:55AM EST (link)

For those who haven’t had the privilege of living someplace where Cal Worthington has a car dealership, Cal is known for his particularly obnoxious commercials and his “Go See Cal” theme.

In Vino Veritas

If you need a Nuke or truck go see Kim..

speciallist (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 12:24PM EST (link)

if you want to save a Buck go see Kim…

any model, any make…give your pocket book a break..

go see Kim..go see Kim..go see Kim

 
 
 

Since I can't edit this FPager, go here for more links and updates

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 12:34PM EST (link)

http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law–Politics-Examiner~y2009m4d23-Obama-Dems-Doing-for-free-what-enemies-would-pay-them-to-do

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Erick, please take this off the Front Page later today

mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 1:26PM EST (link)

so we can Recommend it and keep it around for several days. It should be required reading.

Excellent job Mike.

I second the motion. nt

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 1:43PM EST (link)

God bless, and that's ok with me, obviously, but I would like it

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 2:48PM EST (link)

remain on the front page thru 2 am for purposes of possibly being picked up by other sites, media, etc.

Thanks ‘Becker (enigma wrapped in a riddle?)

smile

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Ok Erick and GC.

stang (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 10:57PM EST (link)

Now will you agree to put this back up in the diaries? Please?

Thanks.

stang

“Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence.”

John Locke

 
 
 

In the court of my own mind,

Flagstaff (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 8:11PM EST (link)

the jury is still out regarding Obama’s intentions.

It’s not clear to me if he’s as incompetent as he seems and that he doesn’t understand the harm this controversy and any resulting show trials would do to the country; or if he knows exactly what he’s doing and is doing it intentionally.

It’s not clear if he doesn’t realize how far the damage could reach, or if that’s his intention.

It’s not clear if he doesn’t recognize that it will hurt his own administration, or if he doesn’t care.

It’s not clear if he’s acting on his own, or being directed by others.

Blinded by ego, cluelessly indecisive, or devilishly devious?

And now a shameless plug for another diary on the same subject, arguing that there is no leg for an investigation to stand on because there is no law that can be said to have been broken–

http://www.redstate.com/flagstaff/2009/04/23/only-through-the-looking-glass-will-there-be-interrogation-memo-trials/

(I don’t know why these no longer show up as direct links)

“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964

These liberals are at one deviously smart, ignorant of much and morally blind. - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 8:28AM EST (link)

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The Left is NOT morally blind.

mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 8:42AM EST (link)

Like with other words, they have simply redefined “morality”. Once upon a time, morality referred to a fixed and defined set of standards, and said standards were taken from the Bible.

Today, academics and politicians – and left wing theologians – have removed three elements from that definition. “Fixed”, “defined” and “Bible”. Morality is now a function of what leftist lawyers can get a leftist judge to define it to be, subject – of course – to other lawyers finding a more leftist judge.

It's early, I'm not caffinated...

mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 8:43AM EST (link)

And they’re certainly not “blind”, they have 20/20 vision about what they’re doing and why.

I hear ya "becker - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 3:00PM EST (link)

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GC isn't JaD.

redneck_hippie (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 10:34PM EST (link)

Great diary!

I give it Diary of the Day front page recommends!

If nothing else, you had me when you said Junta!!!!!!!


Activists Taking Action: Unified Patriots

Thanks RH, and I love to say junta too and

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 8:28AM EST (link)

I think the term as DPeriod!

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I said "D."

redneck_hippie (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 10:54AM EST (link)

Used to do editing and I dot my Ds. Wasn’t fair, but couldn’t resist setting a little trap for you! Congrats on welll-deserved FP placement.


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thanks bo - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 1:21PM EST (link)

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The American Deception

avgamerican (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 11:09PM EST (link)

Americans have allowed themselves to be deceived. They embrace immorality in the name of tolerance. They allow their conscience to be seared as they allow infanticide to be expanded. They embrace the enemies that want to destroy them on the false promise of peace. Courage no longer defines the American spirit that defined it for so long. If Americans are going to forget 911 and back the leaders who want to shield our enemies why do they believe their freedom and safety will be protected? Why should it be? Listen people. The Jeremiah Wright hate America sermon you saw on television was not political propoganda. It represents the true views of the man Americans elected. His first 100 days in office are proof of that. I don’t care what anyone says, this man’s policies are going to destroy this country.

I totally agree - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 8:29AM EST (link)

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