We, the unwashed masses that mob this site, want to comment on anything and everything that gets said, and especially now that the 3.0 front page is a two column tunnel vision (instead of the clear view of all that mattered 3 column 2.0), same includes RedHots.
Neil, it would be news if Obama and the Der Speigle MSM ran a truthful headline on the Iraq War. But yes, lets call them out for the lies 24/7. (See, I couldn’t wait for a directorgod to state what I know!, hence, this open REDHOT thread)
The main problem with 3.0 is that it requires more scrolling. And folks, the Book was an improvement over scrolls!
The tracker was better on 2.0. We have no way to know of new posts on blogs, other than ones to our comments, unless we memorize the number of comments and click.
CLICK.SCROLL FOREVER.
My hand hurts. I’m tired. I think I’ll do something else. Something not Redstate.
The big improvement some cite here is that its easier to post a blog. Fine. But the bulk of our TIME (something you can’t get back once its gone) is on responding to comments, and with 2.0 it was such a luxury to be able to know of same and get to them.
I miss my old friend.
Moreover, the list of comments is so short.
Also, wondering why so many blogs are being written that get no comments and fall off the page so fast? The answer was in the question.
Rant over.
But really, I know this version 5 of my job application for Redstate will go unheeded, and that we aren’t going back to Eden, BUT you really should have a way for us non-directors to respond to your, now, presumptuous Oracle-like (see also NRO Corner) RedHots.
Especially when you have havetoberedhotallthetimetoservicethehenhouse rooster commenter on the ready.
God Bless, and I appreciate all the hard work by Neil and everyone else.
But I love Me and my time more.
No charge.
Steve Maley
Moe Lane
Dan McLaughlin
Neil Stevens
Daniel Horowitz
You're right
Bill S (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 4:31PM EST (link)A) Re: scrolling – when I go to the home page, on my 1440×900 screen, I see about six lines of the first front-page diary. The vast majority of what I see is the top header ad, the masthead, and the links. Here is what I see on my browser – and the window is maximized, height-wise. So, I agree with your assertion about scrolling. Fortunately, my MacBook Pro touchpad makes it easy… If I had designed the site on my old 1600×1200 Thinkpad, I may have designed it that way myself, as that had a lot more “vertical viewing space”. But I think that 1440×900 may be the new 1024×768 – I see a LOT of widescreen laptops with that resolution…not many higher than that.
B) The Tracker is a huge, enormous issue. The rudimentary 3.0 “tracker” makes it impossible to track discussions. I think that may be the single biggest reason that there are so few comments (I noticed the same thing) – people don’t know what there is to comment on!
I like a web site with whitespace, but there seems to be too much here. Things need to be compressed a bit more.
I do like the lack of the skinny, skinny discussion threads. That’s a definite improvement. And, I like how if you click on a person’s profile, you can see their posts…easier than RS 2.
Performance is still rather poor, especially during the weekdays…it was almost unusable on Thursday. But at least the 500 errors are almost totally gone (I think I got one in the last couple of days)
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New comments aren't coming soon
Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:04PM EST (link)I know the tracker’s buggy. It doesn’t see replies to replies when it sorts the most recent new comments. I was going to try to fix it before launch but more critical issues came up.
As for new comments, I miss that tracking as much as you do, I promise. But it just can’t happen anytime soon. New comments tracking is entirely incompatible with the caching system we have up, and without that caching system, RS’s server would go down in flames.
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As for Red Hot
Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:06PM EST (link)The official way to reply to a Red Hot is to write a diary, just like this!
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As for *my* Red Hots
Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:08PM EST (link)I’ve run into a few people today who are getting very pessimistic as a result of this Spiegel lie being presented. It’s easy to see how the press will make a lot of people believe the lie, just as they’ve made a lot of people believe every other lie.
My hope with the Red Hots is that people will take these directions in fighting back against the lie. Now is the time to fight harder, not to get sad.
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Then how about adding an unthreaded, flat view
Bill S (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:09PM EST (link)so we can actually differentiate which comments are new ones? Scrolling the entire thread trying to eyeball for new content is awkward at best. Of course this will require USENET-style quoting to follow a discussion. But apparently there is no alternative. I’m sure you realize this, but … this is not just a “nice to have”. It is a “must have”. The inability to track discussions has taken away much of the value of the community.
Was this failure of the caching an unanticipated problem? If so, I assume there was no kind of load testing done that would have pointed to the problem. Is it really load-related? I still see issues with it, although it has definitely improved.
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See...I told you your time was precious
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:11PM EST (link)Faith…Money knows Faith.
Redstate will be back…but it will take much Precious time.
I used to sit and hover over the keyboard…now a days I can go do some chores, wash the car, go visit Powerline….just kidding…keep the Faith
Reply to Kowalski button is gone?
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:16PM EST (link)Beter place to go speciallist
Brian Simpson (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:17PM EST (link)would be The Minority Report. You’ll recognize a few friendly faces.
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We'd be better off if our consultants tested, yes
Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:18PM EST (link)And switching the whole site to require quoting and all that would fail badly I expect, because it’s such a different way of posting that it’d be difficult to adapt.
As for keeping up in discussions, just use My Profile and see when you get replies to your comments.
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Casualty of caching, sadly (nt)
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Hard to say one's better than the other
Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:22PM EST (link)They have different purposes. They both have their merits, heh.
And I say this as someone who has identical positions in both sites, so you know I’m perfectly unbiased!
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Hey Money..I'm going to visit TMR, I'll buy you a couple Jack and Cokes
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:24PM EST (link)Be careful what you ask for simpson..ha
Neil
Brian Simpson (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:25PM EST (link)I was referring to him going to Powerline.
Also, just trying to help Steve pimp the blog.
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Oh I missed the Powerline bit
Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:27PM EST (link)Good call, heh.
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I don't know what caching is
Brian Simpson (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:28PM EST (link)but I’m really starting to dislike it.
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I should put up a diary (nt)
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Not to say I don't like the guys at Powerline
Brian Simpson (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:30PM EST (link)I have Powerline in my Google Reader subscription list, but RS and TMR are the only two blogs that I post and contribute to (other than the odd comment here or there at The Next Right)
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LOL
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:31PM EST (link)n/t
Be forewarned
Brian Simpson (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:33PM EST (link)I have “blamming” privileges over there.
Note: I’ve only used them twice. I had the proud distinction of tossing two individuals that had also been tossed here at RS. Idiots didn’t even bother changing their screen names all that much.
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But
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:38PM EST (link)I love my “Reply to Kowalski” button!
Bring it baccccckk!
RAFLMAO!
But
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:38PM EST (link)I love my “Reply to Kowalski” button!
Bring it baccccckk!
ROFLMAO!
I'll probably regret trying to explain this
Bill S (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:41PM EST (link)because it gets complicated pretty fast.
Redstate, like many other sites, is a dynamic content site. A lot of the lists (Recent Comments, for example) are generated out of a database. That generation requires that programs run on the server – and those programs* put a lot of load on the server.
A plain ol’ web server spits out flat HTML documents with no dynamic content. A caching system basically saves back (caches) the generated content and serves it multiple times so it doesn’t have to run that program EVERY TIME someone accesses the page. Caching works well if the content doesn’t change very often, but when you try to cache highly dynamic content, it doesn’t work well at all because people see “versions” of the page that don’t align with the content of the database on the back end.
So… if I submit a comment, it gets stuffed into a database. The RS “engine” then must pull that comment out of the database and render it into a flat document page that can be sent to your browser. But if the page that contains the comment is cached and its refresh frequency isn’t frequent enough, you may see an old version of the page without my comment on it. And (my guess is) that’s what’s happening here at RS.
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made people beleive? only 31%
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:41PM EST (link)of whites have a favorable view of Obama and 81% when asked what they know about him say Rev Wright.
He is toast
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It wasn't broke but we fixed it. It seems
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:46PM EST (link)that the underpaid stevens says much of what we had at 2.0 “can’t happen” at 3.0, or if it can, it would be other generations that it happens for.
btw, I still have my stapler from the 80s! why? It works.
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You mean
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:47PM EST (link)cache like in cpu memory and the reason why my button’s gone is purely technical in nature?
I’m a moron, but not an idiot (LOL!)
Can you do something, pls.? I know you can, Neil. Would you bring my button back to life, pls.
Oops
Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:50PM EST (link)I just posted a diary on this very matter.
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re der speigle fears: volleyball rules for libs
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:52PM EST (link)Dems are on serve for over 600 days before elections. They have the msm as their shills while the GOP is off the msm air. That is why the 31% and 80% upthread combined with the carter80-mondale-dukakis numbers in Julys past are so significant.
We are on serve now and will be increasingly as voters get attentive till the DAY that matters.
Obama is toast.
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I'm trying
Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:52PM EST (link)But since we launched, every idea I’ve had to optimize our site software so far hasn’t worked. My last idea that worked was pre-launch, though I did manage to remove from the site the one function that was slowing down the site the most (yes, it was much slower before we went live guys
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Too late for an excuse
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:53PM EST (link)Bring back my button. It makes RS3.0 so special. I still remember a lecture: Users are the King.
Or it’s really that serious that you can’t bring it back. In such case, I’ll shut up. (He! He!)
But yes
Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:54PM EST (link)It’s sorta like CPU caching, only at a program level instead of the CPU level.
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Just kidding on the previous comments.
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 5:59PM EST (link)I can wait for my button’s return at RS3.0. No pressure from my end.
My thanks to RS3.0 and its staff have never been stronger and deeper.
Check your email (nt)
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I know
Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 6:06PM EST (link)I’m just levelling with you guys.
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Gamecock Report to the Principal's Office
RottDawg (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 6:26PM EST (link)That’s what it sounds like to me… LOL
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GC quit HS, aced the GED, summa
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 6:42PM EST (link)cum lauded and phibetakappa’d college, got a ticket to take bar exam, passed said bar and have worked for ME ever since.
Case closed re principals for a rooster that lives on his priciples.
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my 2 cents
David Hinz (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 7:37PM EST (link)While writing a piece today for The Minority Report (cheap plug) I remembered a supporting blog here at RedState. It has dropped from the front page, so I used the SEARCH funtion at the top of the RS page.
Imagine my surprise when, NO MATTER WHAT WORDS I INPUT into the search field, I get a listing of TODAYS most recent posts.
frustrating to say the least…
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
I don't believe it GC
David Hinz (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 7:40PM EST (link)I have never known you to pass a bar.
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
only to get to another that is
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 7:43PM EST (link)close by
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that happened with RS 2.0
David Hinz (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 7:51PM EST (link)Heck, that used to happen every now and then with RS 2.0. Every now and then I would hit refresh, and all of a sudden all of the diaries would be different. Closer examination would reveal that it was a page from six months ago.
Another refresh and it would be all up to date.
Lately, the gremlins make posts appear and disappear through refresh — sometimes comments appear, then disappear, only to reappear again before or after the first appearance.
It certainly makes it interesting…
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
AND right on cue
David Hinz (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 7:55PM EST (link)I ONLY punched the POST COMMENT button once — and it posted up here twice…
hehe
gremlins are a bit–
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Cheer: two point O, two point O
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 7:56PM EST (link)Lets go braves, I mean
2.0
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I've only been here four days...
Gary Cook (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 8:10PM EST (link)…and therefore won’t join the complaining corps lobbying for a return to 2.0
But…
…if anybody here can tell me how to “Preview” a new diary entry before hitting the “Save” button – I would be eternally grateful and forever in your debt.
if we told you...
David Hinz (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 8:15PM EST (link)then we’d have to kill you.
sorry
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
Huh
Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 8:17PM EST (link)I never even noticed that was there.
We all use ask.com or google to search
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Erm
Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 8:21PM EST (link)Huh. Never even noticed that was there.
We all just use ask.com or google.com to search:
[search terms] site:www.redstate.com
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Neil's explination is really too complicated..
speciallist (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 8:43PM EST (link)Here is a great article for Caching Newbies..It doesn’t get too Technical..you can find it at style="cursor:pointer">Caching in on Blogsites
Wow, that's surprisingly accurate (nt)
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Give me Death or Give Me a Preview Button
Gary Cook (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 9:13PM EST (link)Dave,
Death is ok.
But running the risk of embarrassing myself by looking like an illiterate, half-brained twit among a crowd of polished, articulate commentators is not.
Thanks anyway.
So you knew this before launch
Raven (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 10:02PM EST (link)…And launched anyway?
“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36
I remembered what I wanted to say after I had already spoken
Raven (Diary) Saturday, July 19th at 10:06PM EST (link)It’s called “scrapping the mission.”
The plan, the equipment, or the personnel has an insurmountable problem. You cancel or delay the mission and hope you get another chance.
The sort of things you’re talking about as problems, well, I was going to say on this thread, but pretty much since launch are what some of us call “insurmountable problems”.
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This one too..unrecommended..just doing my part
speciallist (Diary) Sunday, July 20th at 8:26PM EST (link)n/t
This one isn't even in the recommends
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Sunday, July 20th at 8:32PM EST (link)Are you just trying to be an ass?
SMILE
unless you actually are
I asked that “pulling a gamecock” be unrecco’ed to MAKE ROOM ON THE RECCO LIST
that is the point
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That wasn't the speciallist I used to know..ReAntiUnrecommended
speciallist (Diary) Sunday, July 20th at 8:40PM EST (link)n/t
Wow -- can you provide a link?
David Hinz (Diary) Sunday, July 20th at 9:19PM EST (link)That sounds like a great website, can you provide a link?
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
Especially when you consider
blooch Sunday, July 20th at 9:32PM EST (link)that it was written for ’80′s technology.
“Lieutenant Dike wasn’t a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made no decisions.”
THANKS MAN
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Tuesday, July 22nd at 9:29PM EST (link)YOU COOL
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