Cardinal Egan channels Cardinal O’Connor, and lays the smackdown on Nancy Pelosi


Nancy “Ardent Catholic” Pelosi was on Meet the Press this past Sunday, making excuses for her radically proabortion views and lying about the Catholic Church’s long-standing, non-negotiable teaching on the issue. Among other things, Pelosi claimed that the Church’s teaching that “life begins at conception” was “like maybe 50 years or something like that.”

Oh really?

Needless to say, Catholics across the United States were horrified by Pelosi’s patently-false statements, and the USCCB, at least three bishops, and one cardinal have taken madam speaker to the woodshed for blatantly misrepresenting the Church’s clear and unequivocal teaching on abortion. My favorite rebuke, by far, is this one by Cardinal Egan of New York:

Like many other citizens of this nation, I was shocked to learn that the Speaker of the House of Representatives of the United States of America would make the kind of statements that were made to Mr. Tom Brokaw of NBC-TV on Sunday, August 24, 2008. What the Speaker had to say about theologians and their positions regarding abortion was not only misinformed; it was also, and especially, utterly incredible in this day and age.

We are blessed in the 21st century with crystal-clear photographs and action films of the living realities within their pregnant mothers. No one with the slightest measure of integrity or honor could fail to know what these marvelous beings manifestly, clearly, and obviously are, as they smile and wave into the world outside the womb. In simplest terms, they are human beings with an inalienable right to live, a right that the Speaker of the House of Representatives is bound to defend at all costs for the most basic of ethical reasons. They are not parts of their mothers, and what they are depends not at all upon the opinions of theologians of any faith. Anyone who dares to defend that they may be legitimately killed because another human being “chooses” to do so or for any other equally ridiculous reason should not be providing leadership in a civilized democracy worthy of the name.

Wow. Now, that’ll leave a mark.

Pelosi, of course, continues to dig herself into an even deeper hole.

But hey, no need to worry dems. It’s not like abortion is going to be a big issue this fall.


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Yowza!

RedSt8Kentucky Tuesday, August 26th at 6:43PM EST (link)

Excellent smackdown!!

Nancy, I’d lay right there on the mat – forget about the standing 8 count – you’re done, sweetheart.

 

Going of Offense with Abortion

buckeye (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 6:50PM EST (link)

It’s time to go back on offense on abortion, leveraging Pelosi’s idiotic comment and the insulting identify politics nomination of Joe Biden that assumed Catholics are an identify politics voting block like much of their party.

Elect a Democrat President and you’ll get a Supreme Court stacked to knock down any and all regulation on the matter, nothing less than abortion on demand to include the hospital floor if necessary. Time to make clear it’s a morally sick pro-infanticide ticket.

“Honor is self-esteem made visible in action.” – Ayn Rand, West Point, 1974

 

Relevant moral leadership from a Catholic bishop?

tankertodd (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 8:07PM EST (link)

Wow, I need to sit down. If this keeps up I may have to start going back to Mass.

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The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race – Chief Justice Roberts

Perhaps you should not wait any longer

frat (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 8:53PM EST (link)

to go back. The Lord would like that.

 
 

Cardinal Egan: Thanks...

Strelnikov (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 8:55PM EST (link)

for the birthday present!

The next step is to boot these posers over to the Church of What’s Happenin’ Now!

As of November 4, 2008, the Code Words will be: “Klaatu – Borada – Nikto!”

 

I hope they start denying her Communion.

Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 9:02PM EST (link)

To her the Host is just a piece of bread. The Bishop here in Kansas is denying Communion to Gov. Sebelius for her embrace of the abortion lobby, and he did so publicly. She needs to pull her head out.

Tim Schieferecke

 

A true church of faith

fisk2521 Tuesday, August 26th at 9:15PM EST (link)

Since almost all Protestant churches have taken a prochoice view these days, it is wonderful to hear Cardinal Egan say what Nancy Pelosi needs to hear. The Catholic Church has remained faithful to their theology…as a disaffected protestant I see a light of hope in The Church of Rome.

Many churches today have become what Flip Wilson used to parody as “The Church of What’s Happening Now”…. a reflection of what is going on in the world instead of a beacon of guidance to their flock.

The Catholic Church may be the answer for those like me that seek a place of refuge in a stormy sea.

LDavis

As a Catholic

Feddie (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 9:18PM EST (link)

Let me say how thankful I am for my many protestant brothers and sisters in Christ who have poured their hearts and souls into the prolife movement in this country.

RJN, RIP

Reverend Leroy

Strelnikov (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 9:31PM EST (link)

Glad to read you remember Flip WIlson and the Reverend Leroy!

One also remembers Rev. Leroy’s main concern: the collection basket.

“Dig deep and make it hurt!”

As of November 4, 2008, the Code Words will be: “Klaatu – Borada – Nikto!”

Mainline denominations are largely pro-abortion

tcgeol (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 9:33PM EST (link)

but the very large group of evangelical/fundamentalist churches are very strongly pro-life. I don’t know your theology, so I’m just suggesting, but look at Bible churches and Independent or Southern Baptist churches. You have been looking at the wrong protestant churches.

Just your typical bitter gun- and God-clinger

Even the Left admits we’re Right

Exactly

Jack_Savage (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 9:51PM EST (link)

For too long libs have gotten away with “well, that’s just the way it is” in terms of the abortion debate. The issue is not settled, and it is time to make them defend their stance, particularly when it comes to their embrace of partial birth abortion.

It is they who are woefully out of touch, and they who should be made to defend then indefensible. As you can see from Nancy Einstein’s remarks, that cannot be done.

Actually, if you go by membership

mbecker908 (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 10:33PM EST (link)

you’ll find a very small percentage of Protestants are pro-choice. They include the “mainline” denominations which are by-and-large withering away. Evangelical congregations, Southern Baptists and Pentecostals – all of whom are growing in membership – are ardently pro-life.

 
 
 
 
 
 

Biden and Pelosi need the Bruskewitz treatment

Wintergreen (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 10:34PM EST (link)

The Catholic church has always been very clear on its abortion stance: it’s completely evil. That has always been it’s position, and it will always be it’s position. However, it’s message is being undermined by perverse politicians who claim to be “ardent, practicing” Catholics while actively aiding NARAL and the extreme left in it’s ongoing destruction of innocent lives. Frankly, the Catholic church has let this sort of behavior from such “Catholic” politicians go on far too long. At worst, these politicians know they will just get refused communion or publicly told they are wrong, so the masquerade continues. They to be thrown out of the church if they choose to continue this. That’s how Bishop Bruskewitz handled this glaring problem in Nebraska. He gave parishioners who supported organizations like Planned Parenthood the choice to either leave the church or leave the organizations. Some left and chose to continue to support causes the church is against, and some quietly returned to their faith. Whatever such parishioners choose to do in that situation is fine by me, but their oil-and-water positions can’t be tolerated.

Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi both hold prominent roles in the Democratic Party and our nation’s politics. They both claim to be Catholic, and they both are extremely pro-choice. They both have been publicly touting their Catholic faith to try to garner votes from Catholics for Obama, a slick politician who voted for infanticide in the cases of botched abortions in Illinois (and then tried to deny it, evidence be damned). In other words, Biden and Pelosi are USING the church to further a cause that the church is COMPLETELY AGAINST.

I am a lifelong Catholic, but the Church’s passiveness towards the Bidens of the world bothers me. Too often it is content to take the United Nations approach, issuing edicts denouncing something but giving up when they are promptly ignored. It ought to consider being a little more forceful before Obama, Biden, Pelosi, and Reid take over and let NARAL snuff out every abortion restriction there is (they call it the “Freedom of Choice Act”).

Communion by the Church

TSP225 Thursday, August 28th at 9:49AM EST (link)

The Catholic Church needs to do a better job of dealing with those who are continuing to give Holy Communion to people like Pelosi who publicly claim they are still receiving from the church they attend.(don’t know about Biden and if he claims to receive).
If the Church wants to truly reinforce the traditional doctrine and position dealing with “pro-abortion Catholics”, they need to “walk-the-walk” and “talk-the-talk” with their Bishops and Pastors who are violating this.
Just another Catholic’s two cents worth!

 
 

Pro-life and churches

fisk2521 Thursday, August 28th at 10:46AM EST (link)

I did not mean to suggest that there are not many Protestants that are pro-life. I am afraid that my personal revelations clouded my overview of all protestants …having been Episcopalian until recently. I had been raised Presbyterian and thought it would be a place to return to until I realized the leaders are taking the same ‘progressive’ outlook. I believe the Methodists and Lutherans are doing the same.

As this all continues to ‘evolve’ as they would like to put it, thousands are leaving the churches (mainline ones I guess) and the blame is attributed to not the church not being progressive with the times. The reality I believe is just the opposite…people are leaving because of the political views of the church leaders.

“If you believe in everything, you believe in nothing.”

LDavis

 

The lunacy of the Catholic Church

KimberlyWrites (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 11:07AM EST (link)

I am not a Catholic but thank God in Heaven the church finally stood up and said “Enough” to Pelosi’s lunacy. I wish that same church would kick Father Phleger out. What I don’t get about the Catholics is how you can allow a “man of God” to curse and mock people in the pulpit? We are supposed to have the mind of Christ. Take the next step, church – get rid of Phleger!

KimberlyWrites from Alabama

Bishop of Pittsburgh Punches Pelosi...Theologically

Strelnikov (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 11:09AM EST (link)

Wintergreen wrote:

Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi both hold prominent roles in the Democratic Party and our nation’s politics. They both claim to be Catholic, and they both are extremely pro-choice. They both have been publicly touting their Catholic faith to try to garner votes from Catholics for Obama, a slick politician who voted for infanticide in the cases of botched abortions in Illinois (and then tried to deny it, evidence be damned). In other words, Biden and Pelosi are USING the church to further a cause that the church is COMPLETELY AGAINST.

I am a lifelong Catholic, but the Church’s passiveness towards the Bidens of the world bothers me. Too often it is content to take the United Nations approach, issuing edicts denouncing something but giving up when they are promptly ignored. It ought to consider being a little more forceful before Obama, Biden, Pelosi, and Reid take over and let NARAL snuff out every abortion restriction there is (they call it the “Freedom of Choice Act”). )

Exactly correct: I wrote yesterday about the fear the hierarchy has in general about driving “moderate Catholics” away, and that it is a risk to assume that by standing up more forcefully the bishops could attract more people than they lose.

Institutions are by nature risk-averse.

But the Pelosi comments REALLY have stirred up the bishops: perhaps their institutional lethargy has a limit after all.

Now Bishop Zubik of Pittsburgh has added his voice in condemning Pelosi.

http://www.diopitt.org/

As of November 4, 2008, the Code Words will be: “Klaatu – Borada – Nikto!”

Pfleger is an Embarrassment...to Himself

Strelnikov (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 1:11PM EST (link)

But also to the Catholic Church and Christianity.

Yesterday I explained (under “The Mastodon in the Room” in the “Pelosi/Biden Need the Bishop Bruskewitz Treatment” topic) why the hierarchy is reticent about taking public action against such people and booting them out.

To be sure, the Cardinal of Chicago did reprimand Pfleger and demand that he follow priestly discipline. I have read that after a forced sabbatical to meditate on his sins, Pfleger is back at his parish.

But since he has already endorsed Obama, who is in favor of allowing infanticide even post-partum, that should warrant at least a heresy trial.

Don’t hold your breath!

How a group called “Catholics for Obama” can exist with clear consciences…see my signature story at the bottom.

As of November 4, 2008, the Code Words will be: “Klaatu – Borada – Nikto!”