The quintessential example of media bias for the 2010 election cycle


Over the next few days, various news networks, newspapers, magazines, and others will present a retrospective on 2010: what the media got right, what the media got wrong, best moments, worst moments, etc.

Let me present what has to be the quintessential example of media bias in coverage of the 2010 elections.

The candidate was the upstart upset. With the state’s political players all lined up in the primary for the other guy — including the party chairman, the congressional delegation, EVERYBODY — the candidate beat the establishment pick, upset the apple cart, had people crying foul, and went on to be annihilated in the general election.

That candidate was not Christine O’Donnell, though you’d think so given the facts as I presented them. Certainly that was her story too. And the media covered the heck out of Christine O’Donnell.

But I’m talking about Alvin Greene. Remember him? I’m sure you do, though not if any major news outlet had anything to do with it.

The media was quite titillated at the idea that Alvin Greene was a Republican dirty trick. They clung to Congressman Jim Clyburn’s every word when he made those accusations. There was a great “whodunit” story the media circulated. But an investigation discovered Alvin Greene saved his money, paid his fee, and won fair and square.

Then the media went silent on Alvin Greene, only pulsing when the drumbeat of YouTube clips turned into a roaring din of the absurb. Otherwise, the media pretended Alvin Greene did not exist. They only wanted to cover Christine O’Donnell.

There were two candidates who rocked the boat, shocked everyone, and caused unforeseen upsets. I don’t know whether it was because of his party, his skin color, his IQ, or what, but the media willfully ignored Alvin Greene.

Instead, they gave such over the top coverage to Christine O’Donnell many Democrats were left venting that other candidates escaped the media pat down. That’s also why Christine O’Donnell is my big hero for the 2010 election cycle. Because she so distracted the media, others had a chance to win they might not have gotten.


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I think the Dems wanted Greene out front.

mirac777 (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 5:48AM EST (link)

And it backfired. They wanted Conservatives to spend valuable time talking and writing about Greene, instead of paying attention to important races that were up for grabs. Problem is that Greene showed himself to be so unqualified and aloof, that we just blew him off quickly. That was a good thing. How that man ever qualified to serve in the military is another question that begs to be answered some day.

On the other side of this coin, Christine was constantly taking up Liberal airtime, letting us promote true Conservaitive candidates without the Leftist media spin bashing them. Funny how the main knock on ODonnell was that she wasn’t “intelligent” and “experienced” enough for the left. I have to ask those puppets: “Just where does Alvin Greene stand on that scale?

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Qualifying For The Military and American Education

Ausonius (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 7:09AM EST (link)

Take a look at the sad facts:

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/genjoin/a/asvabminimum.htm

An ASVAB score of as low as 25 out of 99 is accepted for the Army these days, with the other services accepting scores in the low 30′s out of 99.

That about sums up the results of 60 years of unionized, leftist public education in America.

What is really sad is to take a look at 8th-Grade textbooks from the 19th century: the difficulty of what was being read (e.g. excerpts of Shakespeare) is beyond many high-school seniors these days, who, if they are exposed to Shakespeare, are often given bowdlerized summaries rather than an annotated original text.

Alvin Greene received 28% of the vote, which result co-ordinates curiously with the minimum score on the ASVAB, and he may be a representative of the future: consider the hard-core Dems in the lower classes, who pay no taxes, who receive government checks and benefits. They may be uneducated, but they are just intelligent enough to see where their money comes from, and it does not come from the sweat of their brows.

Socialist candidates need to increase that percentage for their own benefit. Hence the push for more taxes on earners, and more giveaways to the lower classes, and to other groups in other classes receiving Federal hand-outs (academia, cable TV, certain banks and businesses, etc.) so that Socialist Dems can be re-elected in their districts.

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Deja vu

teridavisnewman (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 6:56AM EST (link)

I had the same experience in my Congressional race. If the Republican party had lifted a finger for me, I would have won in a landslide. I lost 5 counties by less than a thousand votes–and I was literally a one-woman show.

Teri Davis Newman
2010 Republican Nominee for Congress
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12th Congressional District of Illinois
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No Surprise!

GeneralAl Wednesday, December 29th at 7:40AM EST (link)

Teri, The Illinois Republican party is nothing but an old boys club! The national party was nothing more than a meal ticket for Michael Steele. If it wasn’t for PACS and individual contributions, the Republicans would be a returning minority in the House. Look north to the eighth district. They didn’t give Joe Walsh a chance against Bean. They weren’t smart enough to realize that Bean’s victory in 2004 was because Crane had become a RINO! Whe he was true to Conservative principles, he won hands down. Keep in touch and we’ll help you in 2012 as we dethrone the Teleprompter Obamessiah-in-Chief!
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Illinois GOP gave us Obama

bsfrank Wednesday, December 29th at 9:41AM EST (link)

Talk about not lifting a finger…

If Jack Ryan – a really good man, a smooth politician, and a real conservative – had gotten the least bit of support from former governor, Jim Edgar and his sainted cronies, he would have beaten the decidedly less impressive BHO for senate. For those who don’t recall, Ryan was chased out in a manufactured scandal that involved release of sealed court documents. That release was probably engineered by a man now running an equally illegitimate campaign for Chicago mayor.

Ryan held on for a while, but finally couldn’t stand the heat from Edgar and company who, much later and with little enthusiasm, trotted out an old Illinois GOP hack (who is really just a Chicago dem), and, not surprisingly, she lost.

And now we’re fighting for the very survival of the Republic. Thanks, Jim Edgar! Elections have consequences.

Has Obama ever won in a clean competitive race?

Common_Cents (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 11:16AM EST (link)

One of the biggest stories not covered by the lame stream media was Obama’s presidential campaign funds. Taking money from anyone and everyone, accounts from overseas, overlooking and not doing any vetting of money. what was his total take?

Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from, behind, the Back Nine.
Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
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You lost by 24 percentage points...

ffc99 Wednesday, December 29th at 2:03PM EST (link)

to an entrenched incumbent in a Democratic district. The Republican party was smart to direct resources to districts we actually had a chance of winning (like IL 17, for example).

You actually sound a bit like Christine O’Donnell, going on about almost winning a few counties. Who cares? We don’t decide Congressional elections by who wins the most counties. Elections are decided by total votes…and you got 45k less than your opponent. No amount of money from the party was going to turn that landslide for Jerry Costello into a landslide for you.

Yeah I Mean Come On

wonkish1 (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 2:20PM EST (link)

Anybody that blames the Republican party for not throwing resources at you when you are performing that badly is just lying to themselves.

What separates you from someone like Cravaack? He actually had more of an uphill battle. He got out there with no resources, fundraised like a banshee and visited every single small town in the Iron Range. He then released internals showing the race was close. He *Earned* the NRCC and state help and money he received. You didn’t! Don’t blame others for your shortcomings. Run again and learn from your mistakes. Don’t expect any GOP organization to carry you.

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Huh? You lost five counties by less than a thousand votes.

mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 2:50PM EST (link)

So, since I’m in Phoenix and didn’t follow the IL12 race – and have no clue who you are or the issues, assuming there were some – am I expected to draw the conclusion that if the IL Republican Party had just helped a little you’d have scrounged up a couple of thousand votes and won? ‘Cause that’s what this comment looks like.

So, inquiring mind that I have (after sufficient coffee), I looked up the results of your election. Imagine my shock when I see that you got 73,226 votes and Mr. Costello squeaked out a mere 119,878. Somehow, I think help from the Party might not have made the difference given a 23% loss.

You didn’t happen to hire Jon Moseley/grassroots1773/Pete to run your campaign did you?

It really is remarkable

Neil Stevens (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 2:52PM EST (link)

Her claim reminds me of O’Donnell’s own claim to have won two counties.

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That's gonna leave a mark. nt

nessa (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 3:38PM EST (link)

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Her claim has merit.

Loren Heal (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 3:58PM EST (link)

Oh, not because winning a few counties would have made a difference, but because the Republican Party left a lot of voters at home, especially in Madison, St. Clair, and Monroe Counties. Total population in those counties is roughly 600,000,

Could it have made a difference in the outcome of this race? I don’t know. But if they got out just 20,000 more Republicans from those counties — getting the same higher turnout as some other Illinois counties — then we’d have a different governor.

And for that I don’t blame (only) the State party. The issue is not outside funding, but the organization inside those counties.

So if you’re a Republican who lives there and didn’t work on her campaign, you’ve got no room to throw rocks at Teri.

For your part,Teri, you need name recognition, which takes being on ballot a few times and raising a lot of money.

And oh, by the way: being a “one-woman show” is not a point in your favor. It means you didn’t attract a core group of dedicated, sold out volunteers — or interns looking for cushy gigs after the election.


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Soc, your last two paragraphs are the key.

mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 4:09PM EST (link)

Candidates have to be able to deliver the goods and if they can’t attract volunteers and workers, and if they can’t seal the deal with the local party for help, both $$ and organizational, then IMO they’re not credible.

 

I dont necessarily like the premise

wonkish1 (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 4:38PM EST (link)

That the party structure is solely responsible for winning elections.

A candidate can turn out voters as well. The party apparatus is there to help. And that help is finite so they have every right to be somewhat strategic. The buck stops at the candidate. Reagan won the California governorship with little help from the GOP. Gingrich won his district in 78 with the establishment rooting for him to lose. I don’t even need to give the example of Lincoln. Great candidates find a way, don’t give up, and don’t blame others for losses.

Take your loss as a lesson to not let it happen again. And put everything you have into figuring how to win. Stop blaming others.

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That premise is the key

Loren Heal (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 5:26PM EST (link)

to rebuilding the party.

Candidates have had to do their own GOTV, but that doesn’t make it right. Why on Earth is there a party, if candidates have to do their own GOTV?

On the contrary, the party should be able to use the candidates as props to draw voters, but should be the primary mechanism for getting people to the polls.

We have a 2:1 conservative:liberal ratio, but we’re not dominating politically because A) we don’t run and govern as conservatives and B) we don’t organize our people and make sure they vote.

If the party supplied the ground game effectively, it would free the candidates to do the air game: fundraising, appearances, etc.


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Completely Agree

wonkish1 (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 5:47PM EST (link)

The party is there to provide significant help in areas like GOTV. It is actually because of the fact that party apparatuses are more efficient at GOTV then candidates that we delegate that to the party.

And party structures are accountable to how they perform in aggregate. They are judged on success based on how all of the races go. And they can correctly be blamed for fundamental GOTV failures across the board.

They shouldn’t be held to blame for 1 race because that somehow presumes that one race is more important that all races in aggregate.

If you are looking at why 1 race failed you can’t blame anybody else before the candidate. Great candidates find a way, period. You go to war with the army you have and its your job to make the best of it. And if we set the precedent that this group or or that group is to blame for individual failures then lessons don’t get learned, and people spend less time and effort to figure out how to win because they think more is out of there control. And I’m sure I’m not alone in believing that is not the message we want to be sending to future candidates.

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GOTV matters and the local party drives it.

Brian Hibbert (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 8:13PM EST (link)

If every precinct committeeman spent a couple of hours knocking on doors, the results may have been different.

One other MAJOR problem with the Illinois party is the number of uncontested state house races. There were somewhere around 25 races (out of 104) where we didn’t even field a candidate. It’s no wonder the Dems still have a majority.

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As much as I liked her....

NeoKong (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 7:25AM EST (link)

I let out an audible groan when she put out the “I am not a witch I am you” ad.
It had to be the worst campaign ad of the season and whoever approved it should never be let near a campaign again.
It was terrible.
That had to be the moment Chris Coons knew he would be a Senator.
It killed any chance of people taking her seriously.

What were they thinking….?
Did they seriously think that the witch issue needed to be addressed ?
Were there people saying “She turned me into a newt. Well….I got better” ?

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Newt?

gunsrus Wednesday, December 29th at 10:56AM EST (link)

I hope that wasn’t intended as a shot at the net POTUS!

NOT NEWT!

MF (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 12:22PM EST (link)

Sorry for shouting. But if we trot out Newt as the GOP candidate in 2012, we’re looking at another four years of Obama. Newt is exactly what we do NOT need – one from the establishment.

Sorry to tell you, Newt would eat Obama's lunch.

avgjo (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 1:19PM EST (link)

You have $5 a gallon gas, MINIMUM coming. Add to that all the other financial disaster coming our way. Anyone who runs a half-decent campaign against Obama blows him out of the water. (Figure of speech, big sis, I know you’re watching.)

I know about Newt’s sitting on the couch with Pelousy; that’s not any worse than Coburn calling that communist cow a nice lady. Sorry if that peeves anyone, but it’s the truth. As for his global warming views, I would refer you to many, many ‘conservative’ republicans who helped push us into the current food problems we face by supporting ethanol subsidies. (Kristi Noem, anyone?)

I hate the global warming fraud. And I don’t trust Newt on that issue. But to say that he’d lose to Obama is not entirely accurate, I believe. Gingrich is much smarter than Bamster. He can communicate really well. He has experience, and he knows government processes than anyone else mulling a run in 12. He’s the only high-profile potential candidate I’ve heard talk about abolishing bad courts as a tactic in dealing with the activist left.

As much as I love Palin, she’s shown herself to be too thin-skinned in reacting to the media, she is not yet savvy enough to maneuver a la Reid/Pelosi and she gives the same danged speech everytime: MSM this, ‘drill here drill now’ that. Aside from Palin and Gingrich, who could run? Herman Cain? Real good guy, probably be a good president, but you know as well as I do he’s gonna get beat over the head for having no executive experience. Besides, outside the conservative blogosphere, who knows who Herman Cain is? Allen West, Marco Rubio, etc.? No way. They’d have to start campaigning the day they take office as freshmen. Mike ‘I agree with Michelle Obama’s control of America’s diet’ Huckabee? Mitch Romneycare? Mitch ‘Trucer’ Daniels? I could go on.

There is no candidate that I would get excited about right now, but I will vote for just about anyone but Obama. I have a feeling a lot of people feel that way.

Ceterum autem censeo, Obamaecuram esse delendam.

It’s the morality, stupid.

The Deal With Him Is This

wonkish1 (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 1:48PM EST (link)

I’ve studied Newt more than practically any other politician minus Reagan and maybe Thatcher.

What folks have wrong!
Many think he is “part of the establishment”: I find this to be largely inaccurate.

Newt considers it part of his identity to be an outsider. Most of the time he has the cajones to advocate conservative ideas that not even Palin or Demint say.

Newt is for using big government to deal with global warming: Incorrect, he has always been skeptical of global warming, but tried to use the issue to actually destroy the EPA(by converting it into nothing more than a prize body), and to get lower taxes. Still probably not the smartest plan though.

Newt likes RINOs like Scozzafava: Newt made that endorsement based on a belief that didn’t apply to the situation(no primary) and incomplete information. Within days of making that endorsement he was apologizing immensely, explained why he made it, why he was wrong, and regretted making a decision on incomplete information.

What folks have right!

Newt has unbelievable baggage: There is no question that he has more baggage than any person on the Presidential list. He would have to be very, very good to overcome that amount of baggage.

Newt makes decisions without information: Newt on occasion will make a decision based on only a few tidbits of information. This is because decisions he makes are less planned out, and so he occasionally makes a decision that is just stupid and not well thought out.

Newt makes off the cuff statements that hurt him: Since, he doesn’t like to operate off of script and basically just likes to be himself he frequently says something that ticks a lot of people off.

Either way you look at it Newt has a big hill to climb to get over some of his problems(particularly his baggage), but what mostly is said about Newt these days is a lot less correct than what people are asserting.

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Good analysis, wonkish. I just think that

avgjo (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 1:54PM EST (link)

if there is a time that Newt could climb that big hill, it’ll be ’12. Having Newt next to Obama will make it plain who’s the smarter. Michael Barone was on Hannity last night, and he named some attributes that he believes a GOP contender would need to win: knowledge of the issues, competence and a belief in American exceptionalism. Gingrich has all three. And as much as I really don’t like this, i think that the mood at Jimmah Cottah 2 will be such that unless an abject moron runs against him, he loses. And certainly Gingrich is no moron. All that stuff about talking off the cuff, etc. will likely be overlooked by a scared, angry populace. ( I don’t like that because I am of the belief that we should be guided by reason, not feeling. Apparently, that belief is outdated by about 2 centuries.)

Ceterum autem censeo, Obamaecuram esse delendam.

It’s the morality, stupid.

Lets Be Realistic Here Though

wonkish1 (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 2:08PM EST (link)

As Newt goes through the primaries, the pile of baggage on him will be released and pound him relentlessly. The only way Gingrich even has a shot is if by raw talent he is able to offer something people want so much that they are willing to overlook the negative crap train that is going to come out against him.

Being realistic, I almost can’t see how someone could stand up to that kind of negative feces slung at him and actually continue to rise in polls. So in all likelihood Newt will not be able to overcome that. I will say that if anybody had the talent to overcome that much $#!% it would be Newt. Any Newt supporter that doesn’t acknowledge the fact that its possible nobody can stand up to that much biting negative attacks regardless of talent isn’t being realistic.

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Well, again, I didn't say he was my ideal candidate.

avgjo (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 2:15PM EST (link)

I just believe that the feces slinging will not have the effect it might usually have. We could attribute it to anger at Obama, an increasingly irrelevant MSM, raw talent, etc. or even ‘all of the above’. But I certainly acknowledge your points. What’s frightening is that if my hunch is wrong, he’s the BEST we have so far.

We shall see. Thanks for the well thought-out reply.

Ceterum autem censeo, Obamaecuram esse delendam.

It’s the morality, stupid.

By The Way

wonkish1 (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 2:38PM EST (link)

If you want to see Newt in his element, I suggest you youtube Newt Gingrich Tulane. To see his guest appearance at James Carville’s class at Tulane University.

You cannot watch that entire thing and not come to the conclusion that he is extremely smart. And to see him talk about the history of disruptive movements several months before the Tea Parties ever got started.

Otherwise Newt’s most recent speech to the ALECPS http://www.newt.org/video/states-are-laboratories-real-change is excellent.

Google Newt’s response to Obama on race. Look at his absolute shellacking he gave to Mario Cuomo in a debate at Cooper Union, NY. He literally completely blew John Kerry out of the water in the Global Warming debate. It wasn’t even fair. Take a look at his testimony to Waxman committee on the cap and trade legislation.

Here is a person that literally makes people look like fools for even engaging him..

But again is that enough to over come train loads of baggage. We will see. That is all we can say.

My position on Newt is straightforward. Those that currently don’t like him, I ask that you at least be open to him. People that are supporting him, I suggest you acknowledge that he will likely not be able to overcome the level of baggage he has. Either way the response is “wait and see.”

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I do want to ask you, wonkish.

avgjo (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 3:23PM EST (link)

Who do you think it is that the baggage will turn off enough to vote for BO or stay home?

Ceterum autem censeo, Obamaecuram esse delendam.

It’s the morality, stupid.

 

I do want to ask you, wonkish.

avgjo (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 3:23PM EST (link)

Who do you think it is that the baggage will turn off enough to vote for BO or stay home?

Ceterum autem censeo, Obamaecuram esse delendam.

It’s the morality, stupid.

Excellent Question

wonkish1 (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 3:39PM EST (link)

Purely depends on what baggage you look at.

First, it will take out those that think that candidates that have that much aren’t electable. People that care about winning may see it as a problem.

Second, people that judge character exclusively by the accumulated total of sins without taking into account the persons attempts at redemption.

Third, and probably the biggest. Those that don’t actually want to spend the time to understand the circumstances of said baggage and discover how valid if at all those accusations are. It is much easier to judge a man as unethical based on an ethics sanction than what it obviously was–a staff error. Or a judge a man based as a pro big government on the environment based on a commercial instead of actually looking at what work he was doing on it.

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The three wives thing is probably the killer

nycenterright Wednesday, December 29th at 6:30PM EST (link)

Lots of people have been married twice. I think people understand that sometimes things just don’t work out. A Presidential candidate who has been divorced and has re-married would work out. But once you’ve divorced and re-married twice, I think a lot of people will object to that. Expect those women to be on the TV doing interviews about what a horrible person he is every single day of the campaign. And the rather icky circumstances surrounding the “hospital” story of his first divorce are just the icing on that PR disaster cake.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Newt can't eat anybody's anything

ohiohistorian (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 2:12PM EST (link)

Where was Newt on the candidates this last election? He was cheek by jowl with Michael Steele. Newt was a really good speaker in 1994, but he has cozied up and lost his mojo. Better to try to elect Bob Dole than Newt.

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Who in his place, ohio?nt

avgjo (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 2:16PM EST (link)

Ceterum autem censeo, Obamaecuram esse delendam.

It’s the morality, stupid.

 

Who in his place, ohio?nt

avgjo (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 2:16PM EST (link)

Ceterum autem censeo, Obamaecuram esse delendam.

It’s the morality, stupid.

 
 
 
 

LOL....I was talking about a different newt.

NeoKong (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 6:23PM EST (link)

I was referring to a Monty Python skit.

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Bad advice...

Melody Warbington (rwm52) (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 2:42PM EST (link)

I wish she had run an ad that said “I am not a Socialist. I am not Chris Coons.” Makes me wonder about those running her campaign. If folks like me with no experience can come up with a better idea than “I am not a witch,” why couldn’t they?

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Whenever a Liberal says Sarah Palin

gwalt Wednesday, December 29th at 8:06AM EST (link)

Whenever a Lieberal starts off on Sarah Palin, I do this:

I pretend I agree with them and add; hick, state school educated, out-of-wedlock birth scandal, failed VP candidate, hair obsessed loser. They look at me in surprise and I say I’m talking about John Edwards.

Same goes for Christine O’Donnell. They say Christine, I say Alvin.

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Whenever a Neocon says Obama

idaho Wednesday, December 29th at 11:48AM EST (link)

Whenever a conservative is talking about Obama and injects in the “the anointed one”, I will say “I thought we were talking about Obama. Why are you all of a sudden bringing up Reagan”?

Same goes for Pelosi. They say Nancy, I say Michele Bachmann.

lol

speciallist (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 12:03PM EST (link)

Nancy? really?

LOL

 

Yeah. I wouldn't compare Nancy Pelosi to Michelle Bachmann

earlgrey (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 1:04PM EST (link)

Nancy looks really bad for her age. All that drinking takes its toll on the body.

Did you register just to make this post? It is pretty weak. If you took the time to register, I hope you have some real arguments to make to defend Democrats and their policies.

Nancy or Michele

idaho Wednesday, December 29th at 2:48PM EST (link)

Whether or not Nancy is a drunk is beyond the point. It’s tit for tat. Worthless bickering back and forth between left and right virtues or policy or personalities. Earlgrey, how many problems were solved today by saying Nancy Pelosi looks really bad for her age or implying she does a lot of drinking? What is your point?

I’m not going to defend the democrats and their policies. Thousands of Democrats have been elected over the years. If good government is accomplished by merely electing Democrats then why are we in this mess? But thousands of Republicans have also been elected. Their’s plenty of blame to spread around. And, it’s my opinion that the vast majority of all elected officials are there to personally gain from the position anyway. So how could we possibly get a government that has our best interests at heart?

My point is only that for every Nancy Pelosi there is a Michele Bachmann. Nancy has her agenda and so does Michele. Nancy has been caught in lies and so has Michele. I’m not defending Nancy or vilifying Michele. For every anointed one there is an anointed one. Get it?

hey idahocraft..

speciallist (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 3:14PM EST (link)

who’d you vote for in 2008?

who’d you vote for in 2008?

idaho Wednesday, December 29th at 4:14PM EST (link)

ok idahocraft, we'll try it another way..

speciallist (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 5:30PM EST (link)

who is your Least favorite Republican?

Least favorite Republican?

idaho Wednesday, December 29th at 5:40PM EST (link)

lol...well you're not lying to me..

speciallist (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 5:46PM EST (link)

so you’re not a lib….you must be a progressive

welcome

 

G'bye

Neil Stevens (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 5:48PM EST (link)

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I liked him better than..

speciallist (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 5:56PM EST (link)

Peat Mossely….

 
 

He's a charmer, that one nt

aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 6:57PM EST (link)

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Well you didnt' make your point in your original post.

earlgrey (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 3:46PM EST (link)

The problem I solved with my disparaging comments on Nancy Pelosi was to firgure out what you were talking about in your original post.

 

If you bother to hang around you will find

earlgrey (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 5:01PM EST (link)

people on this site are angry both with Republicans and with Democrats, but are actively working to return the Republican party to one that stands for the Constituition and one that is fiscally responsible.

We are trying to change the Republican party so we can change the country. Since you voted Democrat, you may not have an interest.

I realisze my original reply to you was snarky, but if you genuinely have a desire in working to save the republic, I encourage you to do some reading here and see what Red STate is about.

Hanging around

idaho Wednesday, December 29th at 6:54PM EST (link)

A friend and an Idaho State Senator once told me that,”if we elected a Republican House, Senate and President, then things would turn around”. Well we got that very scenario in 2001. I thought Bush’s response to 911 was correct in the beginning but lost me in Iraq. Our country has since then deteriorated into political and financial chaos. I am not so ready to turn it back to the Republicans. As time goes on you will see what I’m talking about.

It is not just a letter by the name, it is about electing people with the right ideas

earlgrey (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 9:41PM EST (link)

and actually holding them accountable. That is what conservative activists are trying to do.

I was just reading about the turn of the century polotics and early 1900s. Everybody was progressive. The republican, democrat and bull moose (Roosevelt) all campaigned for more government control.

There are still progressive Republicans, and we are trying to get rid of them. Government interference more often than not creates problems. For example the ethanol subsidies raise food prices (more competition for corn). Ethanol is hard on cars and lowers gas mileage (as has been our personal experience in my household). At the same time we are potentially cutting off other ideas that would have a fari shot in a free market. Repubicans and Democrats benefited from the recent food regulation bill and big business will benefit as well. Small producers and consumers will pay the price. We want less of that.

Republicans under Tom Delay and George Bush lost their way. As I read more about Delay I find him to be more and more unlikeable and regret that he reached his position of power.

Power corrupts. We the people have to start holidng people accountable. People on this site are working within the local parties to change how the republican party works on a local level. We are trying to make the Republican party different.

Maybe you should also watch as time goes by. I realize you may not have the same values as those on this site, but understand that there is as much animosity for the republican party of old as there is for the democrat party. They (Republicans) betrayed the grassroots.

 
 
 
 
 

You can say all you want in favor of Obama

ohiohistorian (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 2:19PM EST (link)

and I will say Harvard educated, and can’t pour pee out of a boot with instructions written on the heel. Racist, aren’t I?

Reagan’s Recovery, Obama’s Malaise, two different responses to the same type of conditions. You compare the petulant teen-ager to the wrong President. Try Jimmah Carter. Obama is another one of him for sure. Just hope we can make Obama a one-termer also.

Nancy proved herself to be a tyrannical b*tch. You are comparing her to the wrong Michelle.

““Liberals tend to put the onus of your success on society and conservatives on you and your family.”

Dennis Prager

 

Was Reagan really "anointed"?

aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 4:04PM EST (link)

Because I remember that he had quite the uphill battle in first getting the party to appreciate him, then getting past the primary, and then Reagan is currently The more appropriate comparison in this instance would be FDR: both he and Reagan accomplished quite a bit and were politically successful, regardless of what one thinks of the policies that they supported. Obama, by contrast, has set up an extremely unpopular national healthcare scheme and… well… done nothing of note besides that.

Nancy Pelosi is the Speaker, btw: quite a bit of responsibility compared to a freshman rep from Minnesota. The better comparison is between herself and Boehner (and there ain’t a lot of love for that guy ’round these parts).

The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton

Reagan Being "Annointed" is real revisionist history

wonkish1 (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 4:27PM EST (link)

He fought an uphill battle that no one would want to fight today. And he won that fight off of pure politcal talent.

The defining moment that led to his triumph was the 1976 convention where everybody chanted Reagan. It is actually a key subject in the study of movements. Everybody thought that they were in the minority by believing that conservatism was the right way forward. It was when that chant occured that everybody realized, “there are more of us than there of them.” (Us being conservatives and them being establishment republicans).

That is also the same thing that was realized in the NYSE when santelli made the comments that sparked the tea party movement. That was also the situation when the Pope visited Poland in 1979. It was also the case during the Iranian protests that will eventually by determined to be the week that was key to the triumph of freedom over tyranny in Iran.

So for future reference if anyone wants to spark a movement a key for it to work is a powerful moment when everybody looks around and says “there are more of us then are of them.” History has shown if that event doesn’t happen your movement is much more likely to fail.

As far as Obama and Reagan it is a story of 1 being a good salesman of a good product and the other being a good salesman of a bad product. There is a grand canyon sized difference.

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Reagan =/= the anointed one. There can be only one.

Greg Garrison (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 5:25PM EST (link)

Reagan was packaged as a hero because he was one–a hard-working, self-made man, a cowboy, the man who won the Cold War. He is idealized, but not idolized, always earthbound and human.

Obama, on the other hand, has been presented as a messianic figure–destined to transform America and bring her a salvation of sorts. This is a man who said, about himself (specifically, his nomination to be the Dem candidate):

“[I]f we are willing to work for it, and fight for it, and believe in it, then I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on earth. This was the moment—this was the time—when we came together to remake this great nation so that it may always reflect our very best selves and our highest ideals.”

There is no comparison, outside of the asylum, for such ardent, sincere messianic self-proclamation. I predict that on the next two years, he will intone: “Why do the Republicans rage and the tea partiers plot in vain?”

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“The art of compromise, which is central to a successful democracy, is not something that people learn overnight.” – Donald Rumsfeld

Hold on here, the man was an actor.

nycenterright Wednesday, December 29th at 5:59PM EST (link)

I will give Ronald Reagan credit for being intelligent, witty, like-able, and possessed of good political opinions and instincts. But the man was an actor. Self-made? Hard-working? Sure, but no more so than, say, Bruce Springsteen (full disclosure: I’m a huge Springsteen fan).

Huh?

Neil Stevens (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 6:05PM EST (link)

Your comment doesn’t make sense.

Are you saying that Ronald Reagan was given what he achieved? Who gave it to him?

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No, no, I give him full credit for his accomplishments

nycenterright Wednesday, December 29th at 6:11PM EST (link)

I read the comment I was responding to as claiming him to have a superb level of those listed qualities, rather than being a talented, but in my opinion not particularly exceptional, individual.

That said, he was certainly an exceptional President.

He became a major movie star

Neil Stevens (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 6:18PM EST (link)

How is that not the top of his profession, the best of the best?

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I think you missed my point, nycenterright.

Greg Garrison (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 7:25PM EST (link)

The phrase “anointed one” is what the Hebrew word ???? (mashiach) means. It is most commonly anglicized as Messiah.

The assertion that Reagan is an “anointed one” similar to Obama is what I was addressing. As far as his being a self-made man, I stand by it. He paid his dues for years, became a star (due to hard work more than acting ability, in my opinion), and went on to head a union and become a hugely successful politician, all through talent and sweat.

Springsteen’s politics are a bit crap, but he deserves similar professional accolades.

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I'll also note other actors have worked hard

aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 8:05PM EST (link)

and deserve recognition for it without having been involved in politics: Morgan Freeman and Harrison Ford are two actors who got where they were through grit and dedication.

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Great point. Musicians too.

Greg Garrison (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 8:24PM EST (link)

Most stars with staying power (e.g. Springsteen, Jimmy Buffett, James Taylor, Bob Dylan, Madonna) work 300 nights a year, invest their earnings, and practice a lot of personal discipline. Most one-hit wonders only have one hit for a reason.

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Your Comment Implies

wonkish1 (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 6:29PM EST (link)

That the best way to judge a person’s talent is by his previous job title. I’m not saying that is wrong or anything because its subjective, but I think you’ll be hard pressed to find many that agree.

Also, this topic was whether or not he earned it or was given his political success. I’m having trouble figuring out how your comment pertains to that question.

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And isn't Springsteen at the top of his game

aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 6:56PM EST (link)

as far as excellence in his field goes, regardless of his politics? I.e., if someone told you that Springsteen was a failure at life, or gave him as an example of someone who doesn’t work hard, wouldn’t you be puzzled (not to mention that Reagan was rather prolific outside of his career, as well, given his work with GE and his policy papers)?

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Why are you here

powertothepeople (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 5:54PM EST (link)

did you make a wrong right turn when you meant to go left? I know being a moron is a required trait for leftist, but you took a double dose.

To even try to compare that stank arrogant witch Pelosi with Michelle shows you really need to stop drinking the kool aid. Michelle is far from perfect, but on her worst day she stands head and shoulder above the trash we call Pelosi. Period!

obama

I agree with you re Michelle Bachmann

carolina Wednesday, December 29th at 7:43PM EST (link)

powerto
She would never trample over the will of the people, and then gloat about it.
Bachmann is definitely head and shoulders over the trash we call pelosi.

 

why are you there

idaho Thursday, December 30th at 2:08PM EST (link)

did you make a wrong left turn when you meant to go right? I know being a moron is a required trait for rightist, but you took a double dose.

To even try to compare that stank arrogant witch Michele with Pelosi shows you really need to stop drinking the kool aid. Pelosi is far from perfect, but on her worst day she stands head and shoulder above the trash we call Michele. Period!

blah-blah-blah, I heard it all before.

Hmm. Usually Neil's bannings take.

Moe Lane (Diary) Thursday, December 30th at 2:18PM EST (link)
 
 
 
 

It may be water over the dam but

america1st (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 8:23AM EST (link)

we are no worse served with coons than castle, who was and remains the true paradigm of a “RINO.”

Certainly the most important lesson conservatives should take from this last election cycle is the incontrovertible fact much of the GOP establishment, especially in the Senate and RNC, has far more commitment to maintaining the status quo than effecting change. The paltry support given Buck, Angle, O’Donnell, Miller and other conservatives was infuriating, especially given the enormous amounts poured into the PRK where the vote went still went to incompetent airhead flakes.

If it were not obvious before, it should be now: we need to take back the GOP before we can take back the country – as Goldwater quoted Cicero: “Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.” We have far too many moderates in office, afraid or unwilling to defend liberty from the depredations of the likes of Ø and its mindless myrmidons.

Logic in the mind of a liberal is like a snowflake in the desert: lost, alone and soon destroyed by a hostile environment.

Take back the GOP

pty12300 Wednesday, December 29th at 8:55AM EST (link)

I say that Palin could do the country more good by taking Michael Steele’s place as head of the GOP for 4 years. She could get true Conservatives in place, then in 2014 she could run for a higher position. We MUST get Conservatives in CONgress (as opposed to PROgress) before we can take the country back to the Constitution. No one can gather a larger crowd than Palin, with the exception of Glenn Beck and she would get the message out to everyone instead of reelecting RINOS and maintaining the status quo.

 

america1st ...

cam1 Wednesday, December 29th at 11:04AM EST (link)

you are dead on! We need to take back the Republican party before we can take back the country. We have a big fight on our hands. We have fight the MSM, RINOs, Harry Reid and the big “o”, but we’re doing it precinct by precinct.

Amen, cam1. Which is why I hope that both you

eburke (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 5:32PM EST (link)

and america1st are both Precinct Committeemen.

If so…congratulations and thanks for taking concrete steps to taking back our party from the GOP elite establishmentarians. If not…well 1) go here: http://theprecinctproject.wordpress.com/ and, 2) wait for Cold Warrior to show up any second now with ‘The Spiel”/

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If only O'Donnell had been as stupid as Patty Murray

johnt Wednesday, December 29th at 10:24AM EST (link)

she would have been elected.
No? You mean that’s not the way it works?

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We have to keep up the offense

djvu (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 12:43PM EST (link)

against the establishment. I’m with you 100%. I live in France so the only way I can be of help is by donations and commenting on comments such as yours just in case some of us get discouraged. I was 24 hours off the shores of Japan when Truman dropped the bomb and let me tell you I was ‘discouraged’ at the thought that we had 300,000 body bags ready for the invasion. But the bomb changed my entire outlook. Our wins in November (even if we didn’t them all) have also wiped out any discouragement I may have been feeling prior to the election and some wins,in particular, have shown us how we can beat the establishment..

Robert Palmer Smith, author of DARKEST TRUTHS OF BLACK GOLD in which I detail some of the results that will occur if Mr. Bernake and the Fed continue on the path they have chosen of ‘printing’ more and more money. How many of you readers (including Mr. Bernake) have ever written a personal check in the amount of C$700,000.00 for a temporary membership in the Shanghai Club in Shanghai as I have done. We must get more fiscal conservatives in Congress as well as Constitutionalists.

 

Just give up on O'Donnell.

naamans Wednesday, December 29th at 12:46PM EST (link)

I’m not sure how O’Donnell helped anyone. Buck still lost, Angle still lost, and Miller still lost. I live in Delaware and I heard from Toomey people that they were upset about O’Donnell. They were worried that O’Donnell’s horrible media coverage would drag down Toomey in the Philadelphia suburbs just through association. Furthermore, the Colorado media (local newspapers, news channels, etc) focuses on Colorado candidates; they could care less about what happens in Delaware.

Also, will people please stop blaming the establishment or the media for O’Donnell’s loss. She lost by seventeen percentage points in a Republican year to an awful candidate who hiked up taxes by 46%. The “establishment” (whether it is Democratic or Republican) has no real power in Delaware. Nobod

 

Funny thing about O'Donnell

ss396 Wednesday, December 29th at 1:44PM EST (link)

For years – for decades – we’ve been hearing about those poor, beleaguered Wiccans and all the Christian biases against them, and how they are a legitimate religion. Oh, how noble was the battle for such recognition; oh, how oppressive the pro-Christian biases that are built into our system. How earnest the fight that they should be allowed equal status at the table where Church and State do intersect – e.g. tax status, removal of impediments to practices, even Wiccan symbols on the graves at Arlington.

Until one showed up on the Right.

Now it is suddenly all non-serious, crazy-minded, and scorned. Sickening, isn’t it?

If you pay someone to sit on his butt, you can’t be surprised when he does.

 

Huge difference between O'Donnell and Greene

jeffreywturner (Diary) Thursday, December 30th at 1:20PM EST (link)

O’Donnell’s primary victory actually changed the outcome of the election and altered the make-up of the Senate. It went from easy GOP pick-up to easy Dem retention as a direct result of her primary victory.

Greene’s primary victory made zero difference, except to boost DeMint’s election victory be a few points.

All this however does not change the fact that the media bias was just a prevalent in 2010 as it has been in all recent election cycles.

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