It’s a simple symbol for the incredible over-reach of the Feds. One tiny but meaningful step in the right direction.
Cheers!

But Chinese standards for worker safety are so low that those who work manufacturing the CF bulbs are falling ill from mercury poisoning. But what are the lives of a few Chinese peasants as long as US eco-fanatics get to irrationally feel as though they’re saving Moher Earth.

and I might say that he’s right even though I have CFL’s in my apartment. I’d rather have LED light bulbs, but they cost a fortune to buy.

And I do have a point here, yes. The incandescent light bulb also gives off heat. Some of those little points of light out in flyover country aren’t about light.. they’re about keeping livestock or a well or boiler room from freezing in the dead of winter. CFLs and LEDs don’t throw enough heat to replace incandescent bulbs for these uses.

And yes, a generation of little girls got to emulate mommy with their easy-bake 100watt lightbulb-driven ovens, even if they mostly got tired of waiting and ate the batter raw.

Mew

There’s also something else that’s common and every-day that the current Fascists in Congress have banned that I just found out about, but I can’t remember what it is right now…

Anyway, absolutely right – the first thing a new GOP Congress can do is strike a blow for freedom, and repeal all these Orwellian “bans” the the Fascist Dems have instituted.

Several cases for every type of lamp I own, including what’s in my van.

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Knock – knock – knock…… Open the door, this is The Residential Enforcement Division of The EPA….. Through an anonymous tip received from one of your neighbors, we know you have a single 40 watt incandescent light bulb in your refrigerator. Open the door or we’re coming in !

…in that , once they expropriate a territory (or thought), it becomes their property for all eternity.

If and when the Republicans try to roll anything back, there will be the weeping and gnashing of teeth in the (already expropriated) media.

Just need someone to publish a “How to Manufacture a Saturday Night Special Incandescent” on the Web so I can moon”shine” (heh) some bathtub bulbs starting in 2014. Wonder which agency will be after me – won’t be the revenooers, ‘cuz this is an outright ban, not just a tax stamp issue. EPA probably (“Enviro-cops”? “The ‘Viros”? “The Virus”?).

“We should get every Republican out there to pledge their support to saving the incandescent light bulb when they take back Congress.”

The Pledge we need to get them to take is not to fund a single Obama project (including Air Force One flights) until he agrees to sign the HealthCare Debacle repeal. Remember this is not Slick Willy. It’s not 1994, and – as he says – “Now they Have Me”.

The lefties are concerned about breakage en route to the land fills, the risk to sanitation workers and ultimatley toxic mercury in the land fills. This has accomplished nothing more than a new way for the totalitarians to exert more control over the group.

What it hasn’t, and won’t, accomplished is a reduction in energy use.

From the Heartland Institute:

Sam Kazman, general counsel for the Competitive Enterprise Institute, noted: “The small town of Traer, Iowa launched the Great Light Bulb Exchange, distributing 18,000 high-efficiency bulbs to the small town’s residents. Despite the fact that over half of the town’s households participated, electricity consumption actually rose by 8 percent.”

When you start talking about thousands, millions, billions (trillions?) of CFLs, that adds up to a lot of mercury. I’m sure the opportunity was not lost on everyone in DC when they passed the energy bill in 2007.

Full article here:

http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results/22775/Federal_Ban_on_Incandescent_Light_Bulbs_Will_Backfire.html

“The lefties are concerned about breakage en route to the land fills, the risk to sanitation workers and ultimately toxic mercury in the land fills. This has accomplished nothing more than a new way for the totalitarians to exert more control over the group.”

Without a financially crippling, and socially intolerable (especially to the loony left which insists on being able to snort its coke in privacy) enforcement program, disposal will NOT become eco-safe. So elimination of the incandescent will also backfire by doing damage to the environment that takes far more energy to clean up than could be saved by a century-of-Sundays CFL bulb use.

I’m off to the store to buy another 100 light bulbs. LEDs will be the solution if the cost can be reduced. They really are more eficient and last much longer.

Nearly every person I have told about the mercury poisoning from the CFL bulbs has just stood there with their mouth hanging open. It is NOT well known, but it should be. And because of the lack of knowledge, many people will be sickened and many more will be later because the bulbs will not be disposed of properly.

One of the funniest ways to bring the point home is a Beck video clip of Stu following EPA procedures to clean up a broken bulb out on a NY sidewalk:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85mb_Z34bO4

. . .this is not essentially a tiny version of the Cap and Trade scam: an imaginary problem with a detrimental solution, by which someone gets rich. Had we a functioning press, someone would have followed the money and figured out who in Congress made a killing off of this. Might it be the person who proposed the legislation?

I honestly have no idea, and I’m sure the majority of those who voted for it did so because it sounded Green. But I’d bet a steak dinner on it.

GEs CFL bulbs and they already can’t sell their incandescents that lasted a year. Amway the Quintessetial Republican supporter, having to sell stuff for the Quintessential Democrat and left wingnuts supporter. What would expect from company stuck in Michigan and partnering with the EPA.

Something is amiss when women at least in my house hate the Flourescents and prefer incandescents.

Something is amiss when kids with various disfunctions are aggravated by the flourescent bulbs, but not the incandescents.

So much for the free market if they do not support repealing this reDonkulous ban.
Its almost like someone has to start the anti environmental wacko caucus so that America can Drill Drill Drill, reduced gasoline taxes and have choice of light bulbs.

We use CFL outdoor spot bulbs because they are cheap to run and last a long time. It’s nice having the option, so we can make a personal choice.

At work we have LED lighted emergency exit signs, because the small LEDs are dirt cheap and the exit signs are difficult to access for bulb changing. It’s nice having the option, so we can make a personal choice.

We use T-8 fluorescents for general warehouse aisle lighting, again for access reasons and cost of operation. It’s nice having the option, so we can make a personal choice.

In the house, we use incandescents, because we like the look of the light they throw, the low cost, and the insignificant extra power usage. We are experimenting with LEDs for particular applications. It’s nice having the option, so we can make a personal choice.

Did I mention that it’s nice having the option, so we can make a personal choice? Why yes, I think I did. It’s almost like that whole freedom and liberty thing that the lefties despise so much.

with fond hopes he may be the next chairman of the house rule or house judiciary committee. (The place where articles of impeachment are prepared and filed.) The man who got Holder to admit on live video, he “hadnt read the [Arizona] bill.” A former state district judge with a penchant for tough sentencing. From the “fighting Second District”, originally part of Rep (Good Time)Charlie Wilson’s district, a home of heroes and patriots. Ted Poe in either of those house leadership positions, would serve to concentrate the attentions of the 0 marvellously that he had better behave and uphold the Constitution his last 24 months.

on bulbs when the bill became law.

As for this nonsense being overturned by an elected Republican Congress I for one will not be holding my breath. All the Democrats have to do is say “It’s for children” or “Save a tree” and voters seem to swoon. The American voter asked for this kind of silliness–they begged for it–when they returned Democracts to the majority.

I’d just as soon see the law take effect in 2014 forcing Americans to experience on a daily basis the consequence of their vote and their “New Age” environmental beliefs.

Dr. Claude invented cold-cathode lighting, what, 90 years ago?These CFL’s are nothing but neon tubes wrapped in a curly-que with a solid-state ballast to light it. This is why they have to “burn in” each time you turn them on. This is also why they don’t work in cold temperatures (the argon gas in them doesn’t get excited enough to vaporized the mercury), and also why they are fire hazards.

This is a classic case of the nincompoops in Congress getting “expert” testimony from a bunch of charlatans camouflaged as scientific brainiacs, and getting all a-swoon at their jargon.

LED’s, on the other hand, may be a way of producing more light than heat in a super-efficient way, but, dammit, let me, as a consumer, decide.

…Just like I hope they get rid of the three-flush 1.5 gallon toilet.

Washington, now they want to impose them on the rest of the country.

Why Did my CFL Burn Out So Fast?

“Get used to frequent recycling. One of the biggest myths in all the CFL hype is the rated life of the bulb. You’ll see blog post and article after article repeating the same misleading “fact” that you will get 6,000 or more hours of life from the CFL. Well, both consumer complaints and lab research are showing how untrue this is.”

The rated life for a CFL is measured in either 4 hour on/off cycles or continuously on. Unfortunately, they are sensitive to the number of cycles (and many other factors), so most uses will not see near their claimed 6,000 hours or 10,000 hours of use.

That severely reduces the savings, if any, from using CFL’s in most applications and locations. Further, if you hate the light quality or the buzz, then saving some money is a trade-off, not a no brainer.

Did you know that CFL’s become 20%+ dimmer as they age toward failure?

The requirement to use CFL’s is a case of regulatory capture. Big business is writing law to capture profits, in the name of green energy. The entire green energy movement is a profit-seeking venture. Al Gore, high priest of green, became a billionaire by investing in companies that were made rich by favorable regulations after the fact.

The CFL Advertising Account

The good and bad about compact fluorescent lights. Why the ads are both true and false. How to save and waste money on CFL’s.

One of the points:
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Mike: OK, no problem. Buy 10 CFL’s and save $750. Get rich!
Techno: Yeah, if you don’t turn them off.
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My research says that the average CFL will turn on 2000 times before its electronics fail. The recommendation to leave them on for 15 minutes is a crazy interpretation of that fact. Leaving them on doesn’t heal them. But, hey, at least if you leave them on for 15 minutes each time, you will get 500 hours use out of them before they fail.

I also present a cost analysis of expected savings.

was a leader in protesting this gross offense against common sense and liberty when it occurred. I have no doubt that she will lead the charge again, if the people make it known that we are behind her efforts.

and I still refuse to allow a CF in my house because the tone is horrible, and my house is all about aesthetics…

But I’ll be honest, the Halogen screw ins are pretty damn good. I think they use 30% less energy, but the light is actually bright, and normal light, and quick.

To be honest I built my new place with mostly dimmable halogens built in anyway, so it doesn’t really effect me.

The strange thing was in Europe it was the big lightbulb companies like Philips and GE pushing it because they were getting too much low cost pressure from china,a nd they thought with the CP they would have breathing room.

Actual practice came back to bite them in the butt, as the chinese were able to buy the machinery to upgrade as well….that might be why so many are on the american market for cheap too.

LED will be viable someday, and to be honest, a lightbulb that isn’t really hot won’t be a bad thing. I am just majorly against the idea of killing it against the consumers wishes, especially when you replace it with something so poorly conceived and bad in so many ways….There will be no such thing as compact flourescent screw in’s in 15 years, I’ll put 10 grand on it.

….in the grocery section, dairy aisle. For some reason, light bulbs were on a shelf in that aisle and a customer actually knocked a CFL off onto the floor and it shattered. Had I been thinking, I would have screamed and, well, you know. As it was, i mentioned it to the greeter on my way out and said “Maybe you guys ought to call in the Hazmat Team.” He smiled and said “Yeah, probably. Have a nice day.”

mercury-controlled thermostat but force you to put several mercury-filled light bulbs in every. room of your house.

Saving the light bulb is easy. Just have a ‘Code Bulb’ group break a bunch of ‘innocent’ fluorescent bulbs around Congress and it’s various meeting rooms during the lame duck session and watch it shut Congress down for a couple weeks while they look for residual mercury. They won’t even be able to debate this nonsense that they’ve forced upon the population in exchange for big political payoffs from companies making these toxic bulbs…

FYI — “Innocent” means take at the mercury before hand — only don’t tell anyone till after the shit hits the fan and is dripping half way down the walls…

Incandescent vs CFL. Not to worry. The Democrats are pro-chice so naturally they’ll let you the consumer decide which one is right for you. After all, they’re pro-choice.

which was built the last time fluorescents were all the green rage, in 1980. My house had a total of 12–count ‘em,12–gigantic fluorescent ballasts. Yep, even in the bathroom and the kitchen. I’ve been getting rid of them as my cash flow allows. The buzzing makes me nuts, and the garish light is horrible. Even the so-called “warm light” fluorescents are awful.

I bet Nancy Pelosi doesn’t plaster on her makeup under CFLs.

Oh yes, you’ve tapped into something here, Eric? Remember what the impending change to the Metric System became in the 1976 election? It became a symbol of that was wrong with Carter – capitulating to the rest of the world, trying to remake America into Europe, jettisoning the very concept of American Exceptionalism…

I remember it well… Congress had passed the Metric Conversion law… it was all a fait accompli… and then came – RONALD MAXIMUS! And all that crap went away for a generation or two!

It IS possible to shut down the insanity. We just need a symbol with which to shine some light on these fools… preferably, nice, warm incandescent light!

With that in mind, I’ve put forth a couple of concept symbols… perhaps some of you can come up with captions of your own!

they are still very very expensive. THey have a lot of advantages though, but it would cost me about $600 to change out all the lights in my house.

is going to have a run on incandescent bulbs very soon. I don’t intend to ever use the fluorescent POSs. My wife suffers from migraines, and it is not worth the risk. Aside from that, it is purely a protest action. I refuse to comply with an edict such as this if I can act to be in non-compliance in advance for a relatively reasonable sum.

Some researchers believe cfl’s are linked to learning disability, which would be a problem since all school lighting is fluorescent. From my own experience working as a special educator, I know my students with sensory processing disorders are hypersensitive to the flickering of the cfl bulbs, which causes headaches. Also, there are no full color-spectrum cfls, which some researchers believe contributes to hyperactivity and visual processing problems. Several teachers in my school have put special covers over the lights in their rooms which is suppose to correct the problem. Others just leave the fluorescent overhead lights off and use lamps with incandescent bulbs placed around the room.

I have a friend who has a traumatic brain injury (he had been mugged and almost beaten to death) who now has seizures if around fluorescent lights for more than an hour.

Wonder what amount of ADHD would disappear if LED lights were used in schools instead of fluorescent lights? It would be a boon to children and their parents if all those mind altering drugs were not needed.

This republic was not established by cowards; and cowards will not preserve it. ~~Elmer Davis

I am stone forged from the fires of creation into flesh ~~Pamela1631

The greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced.~~Maj. L. Caudill, USMC (Ret.)

The Concord Project: Fighting for Freedom in the Fall

I talked to one of the maintenance guys at my apartment complex Friday. He had no idea that broken CFI bulbs are to be treated as toxic waste. Someone needs an education in this (probably the staff in the office).

This has ticked me off ever since it was passed. They have done this in Germany already and people over there have horded the last incandescent bulbs. This is insane to force people to buy the fluorescent bulbs. I don’t see why consumers cannot make this decision for themselves, whether they want to buy one type of light bulb or another.This is another issue where the Democrats have taken our right to make decisions for ourselves. I’m beginning to think the Democrats don’t trust me to make decisions for myself.

Regardless of the legislation, though no doubt a response to it, some manufacturers and retailers have already begun stopping their production and/or sale of incandescent bulbs. Two cases in point, Toshiba and Ikea. Toshiba has stopped making them and Ikea has stopped stocking them.

If you have enough manufacturers and retailers who decide that they no longer want to make or sell incandescent bulbs, it doesn’t matter if the US laws are changed back to before 2007. If they decide to operate irrespective of demand, and squelch supply, eventually the public has no option but to buy what is available. This wouldn’t be the first time manufacturers do such things.

Now, that said, of course, if the laws were reversed and even if all or a majority of the manufacturers in the world decided to stop making and selling incandescents, one or more businessmen with the capital could make a killing, cornering the market on continued production and sales of incandescents to those of us who refuse to go gently into a cfl future.

On a tangental note, as of right now, I think it’d be pretty impossible to ban all incandescents since there aren’t cfl, halogen or led replacements for all of the various types, sized and styles of incandescents that are produced.

stocking enough regular light bulbs to last the rest of my life. I will not subject my grandchildren to poor lighting at such an enormous risk to their health.
As with anything they pass if I don’t like it, I will disobey it and they may kiss my rear bulb.

If I let other men to determine my future, I do not need nor want it.

introduced the Light Bulb Freedom of Choice Act, to repeal the ban on conventional light bulbs in favor of compact fluorescent light bulbs. I believe it is held up in subcommittee……..there’s a surprise. Unfortunately, I live in CD4, the home of Comrade McCollum (but we have a good candidate running ….. please, Lord!)

Anyway, Congresswoman Bachmann is one of the few bright lights in a house of low lifes………..I mean lites!

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“What we’ve got here is… failure to communicate. Some men you just can’t reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it… well, he gets it. I don’t like it any more than you men.”
Captain, Road Prison 36: Cool Hand Luke

One of the first rules for shop lighting, professional or home, is never, ever have just fluorescent lighting, especially for task lighting directed on power tools. Why, ask you? Simple, we use alternating current. It changes direction (and has to turn on and off to do so) at the rate of 60 times (Cycles) every second. As do fluorescent light bulbs. Incandescent bulbs, on the other hand, “Glow” continuously. In other words, they do not produce a stroboscopic effect with moving objects They do not make rapidly turning/spinning bits/blades appear to be standing still which can, under noisy shop conditions, cause someone to believe that a machine is turned off when, in actuality, it is turning with full, dangerous and, possibly deadly, force. They are not safe to use by themselves in a shop environment.