Called to stand our ground and speak the truth. Thank you, Erick, and thank you, Franklin Graham.

perceived faith. Incompetent.

if your father is a Muslim, so are you. And once a Muslim, always a Muslim. You cannot go back. In Islamic eyes, Obama is certainly a Muslim. He may think he’s a Christian, but they do not.

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/2750/barack-hussein-obama-once-a-muslim-always-a-muslim/

The professional left has far more fear and loathing of Christians than Islam.

That is because in their little world, Muslims are mostly brown people and so can be excused for being backwards.

And since a lot of Muslims hate America or at least parts of our culture, Well, you know the old saying, “the enemy of my enemy…”

The professional left has far more fear and loathing of Christians than Islam.

That is because in their little world, Muslims are mostly brown people and so can be excused for being backwards.

And since a lot of Muslims hate America or at least parts of our culture, Well, you know the old saying, “the enemy of my enemy…”

Going Mad in Herds

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/22/opinion/22dowd.html?ref=opinion

The country is having some weird mass nervous breakdown, with the right spreading fear and disinformation that is amplified by the poisonous echo chamber that is the modern media environment.

The dispute over the Islamic center has tripped some deep national lunacy. The unbottled anger and suspicion concerning ground zero show that many Americans haven’t flushed the trauma of 9/11 out of their systems — making them easy prey for fearmongers.

Many people still have a confused view of Muslims, and the president seems unable to help navigate the country through its Islamophobia.

It is a prejudice stoked by Rush Limbaugh, who mocks “Imam Obama” as “America’s first Muslim president,” and by the evangelist Franklin Graham, who bizarrely told CNN’s John King: “I think the president’s problem is that he was born a Muslim. His father was a Muslim. The seed of Islam is passed through the father, like the seed of Judaism is passed through the mother.”

Graham added: “The teaching of Islam is to hate the Jew, to hate the Christian, to kill them. Their goal is world domination.”

A poll last week by the Pew Research Center tracked a strange spike in the number of Americans who believe, despite all evidence to the contrary, that Obama is a Muslim. And even the ones who don’t think he’s a Muslim don’t necessarily believe he’s a Christian.

That’s funny Hillary’s camp thought that Obama was a Muslim also.

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/2899/hillary-clinton-agrees-with-schlussel-obama-suspicious-deceptive-on-muslim-background/

Hillary’s Team Has Questions About Obama’s Muslim Background. Are the American people ready for an elected president who was educated in a Madrassa as a young boy and has not been forthcoming about his Muslim heritage? This is the question Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s camp is asking about Sen. Barack Obama.

So, Maureen Dowd thinks our Secretary of State is mad????

Obama’s conversion to Christianity is that he converted in Rev. Wright’s Trinity church. This is NOT a mainstream Christian church, rather ist is a radical off-shoot of Christianity, much like Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam is an off-shoot of “mainstream” Islam.
Wright was his mentor. When they sat down and discussed religion do you think Rev. Wright said: “Barack, black people had it tough in this country but America is a great nation and with the Grace of God we perservered” or do you think he said “Barack, America is a racst, evil country, but God is on our side and that’s why we perservered.”
Never forget, Obama only quit the church for political necessity during the campaign.
So while Obama is technically a Christian, we should not be fooled into thinking he holds the values & beliefs that the typical Christian holds.

ask any Evangelical, they will say they were born sinners and were destined to hell, if not for being “born again”.

My goal is to win this next election by as wide a margin as possible. My goal is to take the Senate and the House so as to do as much as possible to stop Obama and the weakening of America.

I think the Muslim issue is out there now, the Mosque issue is out there now, and the Dems are self destructing. In my humble opinion, if we are shrewd we would now take out the bowl of popcorn and let THEM struggle with this.

We are not going to win majorities in both houses saying Obama is a closet Muslim or bad Christian. We are going to win if we focus on the nanny state, the weakening of America at home and abroad, and Obama’s anti free enterprise stances.

We Republicans have a history of taking a good thing too far. We don’t get the leeway liberals do, even among independents. If we overplay our hand on this religion stuff, we might one day realize it was we who got hoisted on our own petard…again.

I think Franklin’s words are formed with integrity, a rare quality today.

And after reading his words, don’t know what the fuss was about. The words didn’t appear contentious, but actually a good example of clear, concise language.

I really like this post about Christian faith. I stand by my previous post discussing the political aspect of this, and would likely quibble on an issue or two, if we had a deep theological discussion (I will by the beer), but I am refreshed by the meat of your diary, the true meaning of our shared faith.

His obvious antipathy towards Israel, the report that he told an Egyptian diplomat that he is a Muslim, granting his first presidential interview to Al Jazeera, his “alleged misstatement” that John McCain “hadn’t talked about [his] Muslim faith,” bowing to Mayor of Tampa Pam “CAIR Day” Lorio, NASA muslim outreach, Nicholas Kristof writing in the New York Times that he recited the Arabic call to prayer in a “first-rate accent,” his 57 states comment, his statement in the Audacity of Hope that he will “stand with [Muslims] should the political winds shift in an ugly direction,” his odd interest in the long-term consequences of al Qaeda’s actions vs. the “short-term tactical gains” of these actions, etc. Now the Ground Zero mosque. Someone who had to be prodded to denounce Rev. Jeremiah Wright and his “God D*** AmeriKKKa” sermon, and someone who launched his political career in the living room of William Ayers, who had his picture on the cover of the New York Times on September 11, 2001 stomping on the American flag and saying he had no regrets about setting off bombs in the US — hadn’t blown up enough, in fact. It’s obvious Obama sees 911 differently than most Americans. Is the American President a closeted practicing Muslim? Perhaps not. Do his loyalties lie with Islam over this country? A whole lot of smoke says that they are at the very least divided.

was all over Bush43 having bible studies in the white house. Those same lefties are now talking up Obama’s Christian faith.

I recall Obama’s 1st speech and shudder a bit. He mentioned the six great religions with a nod towards the Christians-the Jews-the Muslim-the Hindu-the buddists and those who believe in no God at all. The 5 great faiths and then the equally great non faith.

I don’t know Obama’s heart. I pray for him and our country. I am a sinner saved by grace. This is a hard terrtory for the Christian to cover. Let me just say that in his outward political speeches and his actions Barack Obama is covering new ground. I don’t like.

I have friends who are missionaries in an Islamic country where spreading the Gospel is punishable by death. I personally would like a little less deference to Islam from our President. He is sending the wrong message in so many ways.

The lapdog progressive media that would not know the truth if it bit them, will answer to the Almighty at “judgment” as we all will. I have read the BOOK and in the end, I KNOW WHO WINS! Thank you Jesus, praise be to GOD!

but I’d like to know where he gets his Theology. What you believe IS important after all* and I’ve seen nothing to indicate that he has been marinated in anything other than rank heresy.

* And he said unto them, But who say ye that I am? And Peter answering said, The Christ of God. – Lk 9:20

you beat me to the punch on this because I was going to write on it today so I’ll just point this out as an addendum to your post because you covered everything else exquisitely.

Graham didn’t just out of the blue say Obama is a Muslim thus proving himself to be the ignoramous the press is portraying him to be.

The reason Graham said what he said was because he was asked why so many Americans believe Obama is a Muslim. Only then did he say Obama was born of a Muslim father and the seed of Islam was passed down from father to son. What’s deliberately gotten lost in what Graham said is that he went on to say the Obama had renounced Islam and professes Christianity thus those who believe Obama is a Muslim are mistaken.

The Nazis and Propagandists in the so called objective media have take the one half of his statement that makes it sound like Graham believes he’s a Muslim and deliberately left out the beginning where it’s clear he’s talking about why people have a mistaken impression…and the end where he says Obama is a Christian because he’s renounced the Muslim faith of his father and professed Christ as King of Kings and Lord of Lords!

all I can say about the press in this matter is DAXX them….DAXX them all to Hell!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in Washington—Fred Thompson

But since Teh 0ne had no problem reciting the muslim call to prayer, I would ask him to recite the Nicean Constantinopolitan Creed (which I doubt he knows, or has even heard of, given the caliber of his ‘Christian’ upbringing), I would even ‘look’ the other way should he include the Fillioque in deference to my Western Christian friends here @ RS

In most of the world, religious identity is more akin to how we see Jewish identity. Even here in the West, we understand perfectly well that if you were born a Jew you will die a Jew, and nothing you do in the meantime can change that. Same thing goes for Muslims . . .

the reason ”whoever” gets a pass pushing islam, or any of the other false religions, is because theres only 2 teams,GOD of the bible and the fallen angel satan with all his counterfeits/deceptions.

the worlds system has 1 purpose,to deny jesus’es deity. View everything through the light of biblical scripture and identifying sides becomes easier.

even the crazy rapture,new Jerusalem stuff seems true when you realize the writers of the new testament suffered horribly for the message of a crucified jesus and his resurrection. People dont died for what they know is a lie.

so choose a side…eternity is calling.

it all warfare waged in unseen heavens

As a Christian, I believe there is one and only one way to Heaven (redemption) and that is through accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. You are free to choose something else if it doesn’t infringe on others, including the right to practice no religion whatsoever. But realize that our system of law and sense of right and wrong historically was based on Mosaic law. (the bible and teachings of Jews and Christians)

As our country was founded by peoples that had suffered under government rule churches (Church of England among others) they recognized the need for believers (citizens) to be protected from a Government restricting their right to free practice of religion. Freedom from intrusion by Government and intrusion by the dominant religion (church) itself. For the founding fathers, variations of Christianity and some Judaism was mostly what they understood.

Some religions and their practices are incompatible with personal freedom and responsibility. There are some religions that seek to impose a different social system and morality. It was our founding fathers’ beliefs and understanding of individual choice (personal relationship with God) that enabled our country to be formed in the first place. Islam is largely incompatible with our system of rights and individual freedoms and as such should not be accepted lightly even if you are agnostic of some other religion.

I’ve been reading this thread and the various responses.

Will you all please stop.

God asked “Believe in Me”. A real simple request.

Anything else added, if it makes a person feel closer or more able to worship, ok. Do so. Belaboring the minutiae of how to believe or what to believe further widens the chasm between us. It weakens us as a nation. We need to pull together so we as a nation and people can continue to worship freely. Without oppression or forced into a state sanctioned religion.

So set aside the differences and get back to the beginning.
The theological discussions can come later.

I for one do not want to end up having to wear a burqa because too many were arguing who was more devout in their belief in God or Christ.

Oh, as an aside, no matter what religion Obama practices, he’s a spiritual idiot. Were God to show himself, Barak would start in on a campaign speech hoping for a donation.

This republic was not established by cowards; and cowards will not preserve it. ~~Elmer Davis

I am stone forged from the fires of creation into flesh ~~Pamela1631

The greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced.~~Maj. L. Caudill, USMC (Ret.)

The Concord Project: Fighting for Freedom in the Fall

That’s what it means to me if you must know.
That half of God’s children have no place in his sight under those teachings.

It means Enslavement It means the Deliberate destruction of Israel’s people, land and history.
It means the wanton takeover and subjugation of parts of the world through history in the name of a misogynist maniac claiming to be the only representative of God.

I am well aware of the results caused by those demon spawn and of the acts they continue to perpetrate against all people. I still see those planes crash into the Towers and into the Pentagon. I pray daily for the murdered dead and the survivors. And I pray for Justice. Both Temporal and Heavenly.

How a person believes is up to each of them.
How we worship, the words we speak and pray are different.
We were given free choice and spiritual awareness.

Our differences are our strengths and weaknesses.
Do not let those differences be used against us and be the reason we fail in this fight to maintain our freedoms and liberties.

Reverend Graham has great faith and can forgive transgressors.
I’m not sure I can just “get along” or forgive. An eye for an eye come to mind more often than naught. But then it goes back to prayers for Justice. Both Temporal and Heavenly.

This republic was not established by cowards; and cowards will not preserve it. ~~Elmer Davis

I am stone forged from the fires of creation into flesh ~~Pamela1631

The greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced.~~Maj. L. Caudill, USMC (Ret.)

The Concord Project: Fighting for Freedom in the Fall

Ann Coulter is again correct when she calls OBama an Athiest.
A leader of Marist ideology is almost neccesarily Athiest.

Also, seeing a baptismal certificate wouldn’t prove anything to me. One can be baptized in a church without ever undergoing a true conversion to Christianity. I once met a man who had done just that. He came forward in church one night and said, “I got baptized on the wrong side of being saved.”

ALL 160+ of these comments prove it.

Nothing like having a discussion on Politics AND Religion to get the words-a-flowin’.

After EVERYTHING that he has done these last 18+ months, does it REALLY matter what religion he is? IF he were muslim, would calling him out on it make him change his policies? IF it turned out he was Pastafarian, would that REALLY make a difference?

He is a horrible President: he has to go. We can’t vote him out till 2012, but we can stop his idiotic and destructive policies this fall.

I’m so grateful for your words today and those of Franklin Graham. You have helped me refocus on the truth that really matters.

Yes, it’s upsetting to see what’s happening in our country. But “we fix our eyes not on what is seen but on what is not seen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.” 2 Cor 4:18.

And just before those words, Paul wrote “Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all.” 2 Cor 4:16-17

What a remarkable perspective changer!

Here, here! for Franklin Graham.
What I want to know, while all the proponents of the mosque are shouting about ‘Islamophobia’, – which is just blackmail anyway – and condemning America, which without question is the most open and tolerant society on Earth is, what about Arabia?
The entire sub-contenant does not permit a single Christian chursch anywhere, never mind a prayer book or cruifix or the sign of the cross. It is a crime to practice christianity all aver the Moslem lands.
I want to talk about intoleranbce. You bet I do. here is plenty of intollerence. But it isn’t here in America, it’s in Arabia it’s by the Moslems.