Apparently they want her to get her mind right on homosexuality.
They are requiring her to participate in a gay pride festival, do a few gay sensitivity seminars and I think also they want want her to write a paper on how homosexuality is just another one of nature’s way.

I’m surprised they haven’t committed her to a hospital and given her shock therapy yet. This is a blatant and outrageous example of trampling on free speech rights and religious freedom.
They would never have the guts to pull that crap with a Muslim student.

Perhaps Keeton should have gone to Liberty University, or just about any other private college or university. Government schools are government schools: When the government supports homosexuality, it’s going to be extremely difficult for an individual to get government certification to teach, counsel, etc when the individual does not support homosexuality.

I given Keeton credit: She’s taking the hard path. Personally, I would have opted for the path of least resistance.

This is so unconstitutional and illegal to force someone to repudiate their religion. Of course don’t expect the justice department or that bigot of a President we have to do anything.

What this story demonstrates how far anti Christian bigotry has spread. If you can’t stop this in Georgia where can you stop it? Georgians who are outraged by this aught to hold the State Legislature and Governor responsible for this. This is a State University and they are the elected State Officials and this is an election year. Let em have it.

I refer to a 7 part article entitled Of Mice and Mormons by Mike Adams for Townhall.com

http://townhall.com/columnists/MikeAdams/2007/08/27/of_mice_and_mormons

The knowledge of the goings on at PUC via the article, plus my friend knowing the wife of the student in question at PUC, was one of the main reasons I left.

The offering of a 3 cr. hour human sexuality course in which we were to watch porn movies and read a text that elevated Kinsey to the status of a god, and Margaret Sanger to Joan of Arc cinched my decision.

They need to DEMAND that every dollar of state support be yanked from this school unless this is reversed, and vote out ANY legislator who does not vote to do so.

To major donors on the Alumni list might reverse things for Miss Keeton. A sudden loss or removal of serious funding can work miracles.

Plus calls to the State house.

This republic was not established by cowards; and cowards will not preserve it. ~~Elmer Davis

I am stone forged from the fires of creation into flesh ~~Pamela1631

The greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced.~~Maj. L. Caudill, USMC (Ret.)

The Concord Project: Fighting for Freedom in the Fall

Hmmm….Islamic coutries seem much less tolerant than Christianity. Wonder when one of those cases will hit the courts? Or perhaps religions which set up alternate judicial systems governed by Shari’a law don’t have to concern themselves with such trivialities as the seemingly-arbitrary US Judicial system.

and have been exposed to these ideas from many in the field. While I too hold traditional Christian values similar to Ms. Keeton there is nothing I have ever experienced in working with those in the gay community that compromises my ability to provide competent care.

The problem lies squarely with those who believe every Christian is a homophobe and out to “convert them”.

It’s arguable that being outspoken about the wrongs of homosexuality, as the student was, disqualifies her from being able to counsel unsure or homosexual people.

That being said, the actions taken by the school are a bit outrageous.

But, why did this even become an issue, unless she made it explicitly clear that she was going to tell gays/lesbians/whatever that their feelings or actions are wrong and sinful? Something doesn’t seem right about this story–it’s clearly not an “assault on Christianity in public education” that many are trying to say. There are countless other examples of that phenomenon; this is a story of someone who just can’t set aside bias in order to successfully counsel potential patients.

Who runs the University System? Even in conservative states with Republican governments, since it is all so deadly dull, communist academics have been allowed to run the university systems. A few years working in the fields chopping cotton and such should either cure or kill them.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/Sunday_Reflections/Higher-education_s-bubble-is-about-to-burst-95639354.html#ixzz0v1nKoZCv

…she has a right to her views. If she were counseling people to kill all those who oppose her, like some religions out there, that would be a different story. But this is quite ridiculous.

Exactly when did it become a bad thing to be a Christian?

I swear this country is going to hell in a hand basket.

espouse “certain” views as a condition of graduation.

There’s another great organization, along with ADL, that helps students of all beliefs exercise academic freedom: The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE). Check it out at www.thefire.org.

When have you ever known leftists to not go down the path of intolerance, reeducation, and censorship?

When have you ever known leftists to not go down the path of intolerance, reeducation, and censorship?

But is this not one of the reason the founders thought the first amendment important, and provided for the separation of church and state. Does the second part of the establishment clause state “or prohibiting the free exercise thereof?” From here we can say that one, there is no freedom of religion, instead it is only interpreted as a universal freedom from religion, and two, there is no freedom of speech when the speech disagrees with progressive doctrine. We, my friends, are on a very dangerous and slippery slope.

Hindus, Muslims, Jewish, and even Buddhists all have very similar views regarding homosexuality. This policy seems to be discriminatory against religion in general. Aside from that, shouldn’t her future clients be the real deciding factor here? Those who know me or who have read the diary I posted here know that I am lesbian. I am very open about that fact. I would not personally be a client of this counselor. But that is no reason that she should not be allowed to graduate. This is treading heavily on her freedom of religion and freedom of speech. I may not personally agree with her views, but the school is dead wrong in this case.

I don’t hold much hope that in today’s world of left-wing activist judges that she has much chance of winning this case on first amendment grounds.

However, she might have a chance if she argued breach of contract on the part of the university. If she has paid for and passed all the courses required for the degree then it should be difficult for the university to argue that they’ve upheld their end of the transaction.

From the update:

“the university determined that she would never change her behavior and **would consistently refuse to counsel clients** on matters with which she was personally opposed due to her religious beliefs – including homosexual relationships”

What do they mean “consistently refuse”? How do they know and how can they predict?

Does this mean she could never CHOOSE to be a Christian counselor for Christians? What happened to choice?

This is theory she’s studying. Her grades and the caliber of her work say nothing about her anticipated “behavior” (blech!).

This is like anticipating mind-crime — and yet, they let pedophiles out of jail on the belief that, gosh, they would never go near a child again, right?

Posted here 5 days ago…

http://www.redstate.com/patriot601/2010/07/23/augusta-state-university-to-student-lose-christianity-or-face-expulsion/

I assume this same judge should also allow any school to withhold an individual that is a homosexual who disagrees with traditional marriage.

This is how ludicrous our society has become, our court system is not judging by law they are judging by personal choices.

I was scheduled to start at ASU this fall after an overseas trip. That trip pushed got pushed back so no school. But I had registered in my major, criminal justice, which is in the ASU sociology school. In those halls are three professors who have pro-socialist and anti-war slogans, sticker, and posters. Among the most offensive to the American way is a very complimentary picture of Karl Marx. ASU actually has a Fall 10 course titled Socialist/Marxist Theory tought by two of those professors.

The best part of that walk through the hallway was one professor who had a small pro-2nd Amendment/gun sticker on his door. I had to thank him.

Erik, this story presents a good opportunity for me to ask you a question regarding the Handel/Deal run-off on Aug 10 that I hope you can respond to. I’m leaning towards Handel and several of my family members are leaning towards Deal. Our main concern is who will compete the best against Barnes, but there are a few periphery issues.

I don’t like Deal’s business even if he didn’t break any ethics rules. It’s not a true, free market business, but something that makes money from taxpayers that are forced to use that service because of local laws. That Deal appears to have used his influence to keep the business profitable is more troubling to me.

For my family members who support Deal, however, the Log Cabin Republican thing is a concern. And no, not because we fit the liberal stereotype of conservatives that sit around hating gay people all day long. We all think gay people should be as welcome as any other group to vote Republican. Rather, the concern is due to the exact type of issue you cover in your post.

One of my relatives served in local GA politics and had very harsh run-ins with radical left, gay activist groups. Not saying the L.C.R.s meet that description, but what if Karen was presented with an issue like this Eastern Michigan/Augusta business? What would she say? Would she support the student or would she try to pander and play identity politics?

I would appreciate your thoughts, Erik, but would like to hear from anyone else, too. Just trying to definitively decide who to vote for.