I am guessing Dan Becker and Georgia Right to Life are just fine and dandy with embryonic stem cell research.
They don’t like Karen Handel funding cervical cancer screenings, but they love them some Nathan Deal despite his support for a Henry Waxman backed piece of legislation funneling $500 million to the abortion industry explicitly for abortions.
Well, Nathan Deal also signed on to NANCY PELOSI authored legislation that, in its own description, “allows for the use of fetal tissue in medical research and appropriates funds to the National Institutes of Health.”
More language from the legislation describing the legislation:
The bill codifies the Clinton executive order lifting the ban on fetal tissue research from induced abortions.
Yes, yes, it happened in the past. Just like Karen Handel’s transgression. But Georgia Right to life is attacking Karen Handel and supporting Nathan Deal. Deal explicitly voted to fund abortions and explicitly voted to fund embryonic stem cell research.
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
Do Dan Becker and Georgia Right to Life agree?
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SoFiMil (Diary) Monday, July 26th at 6:18AM EST (link)Without your contributions, I would not know this disappointing, but important information.
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Maybe they're just lazy
andyd (Diary) Monday, July 26th at 6:52AM EST (link)…and haven’t done their homework. Of course that would mean they are more concerned with politics than protecting life. That’s the conclusion I would draw from this.
Oh, and I would make sure not to support Ga Right to Life with any donations if they are going to be lazy.
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You're talking about 1993, dude.
bloodbuzzohio Monday, July 26th at 7:08AM EST (link)If you’re going to be indignant, remember, 1993.
timing is everything
fultonbabe Monday, July 26th at 2:33PM EST (link)1993 Deal vs. 2005 Handel? Makes a difference to me.
Unfortunately GRTL, like most small non-profits, is not equipped to fight the sound-bite media war. Not enough money. Not enough staff. Not sound-bite conducive subject matter. But they do their research, and understand the complexities of life issues.
Read up a bit on IVF and learn why there must be restraints (opposed by Handel); Octomom is not the only problem. Embryonic human beings are often disposed of when they don’t “look good enough” or they have genetic issues like Down Syndrome, or they are the wrong gender. Some don’t survive the freeze/thaw process. Older fetuses are sometimes killed to “reduce” triplets or quads to twins or singletons. There are ways to avoid these deaths, but that is “restrictive.”
The Difference
bloodbuzzohio Monday, July 26th at 6:57AM EST (link)Erick, the difference between the vote cited in your latest opp dump and Karen Handel’s vote? Deal’s occurred roughly 20 years ago. Handel’s? 2005.
This is getting pathetic. Please let us know if you have something on Nathan that occurred within the last decade or so.
The facts are these: After joining the GOP in 1995, Nathan Deal has an unimpeachable pro-life voting record.
While Karen Handel was voting to send taxpayer dollars for “family planning services” to Planned Parenthood–in 2005–Nathan Deal was being honored by Concerned Women of America, Family Research Council, and National Right to Life for his pro-life record.
Regarding the provably false argument that Handel’s vote merely allowed money to flow to “cervical cancer screenings” (In fact, the vote before the County–featured in the minutes as “family planning services”), National Right to Life writes, “While federal money comes with restrictions prohibiting its use for abortion (some state money does not), every dollar Planned Parenthood receives from the government frees up other funds for the performance and promotion of abortion.”
Oh, and Nathan Deal voted for the Pence amendment, which prohibits–not sends unfettered–any funds from going to Planned Parenthood.
Erick, in yesterday’s AJC you said the Deal campaign would throw “social conservative dirt” at Handel during the runoff. I have no idea whether that’s true. But do you remember a few years back–before the tv show, the book, and your role as Palin’s puppeteer: you used to care about “social conservative dirt.”
You’re really pulling out all the stops in this race, Erick. And you seem have lost your soul along the way.
BTW, you can easily change the topic of this thread . . .
bloodbuzzohio Monday, July 26th at 7:02AM EST (link)to “Does Sarah Palin Now Support Only One Exception?”
Right to Life has compromised itself.
republicanconscience Monday, July 26th at 8:06AM EST (link)This organization National and State affiliates lost their way. They had a cause but was corrupted by their quest for a seat at the table. They want to make sure they are on the winning side and do not make an enemy. They are no longer feared by candidates and therefore ineffective. RTL-INO’s!
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"They had a cause but was corrupted by their quest for a seat at the table . . . "
bloodbuzzohio Monday, July 26th at 8:07AM EST (link)Sounds like a blogger I know.
Amen, republicanconscience. RTL in Wisconsin...
pompadour (Diary) Monday, July 26th at 9:00AM EST (link)is right on that same bad road. I hadn’t realized just how bad it had gotten until this election cycle. Now it’s so obvious as to be laughable–if it were at all funny to politicize the lives of the unborn, that is.
Handel's 2005 vote
bloodbuzzohio Monday, July 26th at 8:07AM EST (link)DEPARTMENT: Health and Wellness
SERVICE/COMMODITY: Expanded Family Planning
BID #: 20050002YB
TOTAL AMOUNT OF PURCHASE: $425,568
PRIME CONTRACTOR: Planned Parenthood of Georgia
(Atlanta, GA)
REQUESTED ACTION OF THE BOC: Approval of contract
with Planned Parenthood of Georgia to provide family
planning services in an amount not to exceed
$425,568 for the period from date of award through
December 31, 2005.
The motion carried by a unanimous vote of 7-0-0.
Commission Chair Handel, Vice Chair Darnell, and
Commissioners Pitts, Riley, Lowe, Boxill, and Edwards
voted yes.
Was anything else tacked onto that bill, bloodbuzzohio?
pompadour (Diary) Monday, July 26th at 9:07AM EST (link)Or was it a single issue? If it was a single issue, that’s pretty damned solid evidence that you’re dead on about Handel.
Not that there’s any guarantee the man at the top will read it. I’ve been laying out evidence here on another topic for weeks–and I have not been alone. It had no effect whatsoever. I don’t understand it. Very disappointing…
Nothing else "tacked on" It was a stand-alone vote. Vote #2.
bloodbuzzohio Monday, July 26th at 9:22AM EST (link)And unlike Erick’s opp dump, Handel’s vote was within the last decade.
Then I'd say it's a slam dunk, bloodbuzzohio.
pompadour (Diary) Monday, July 26th at 9:30AM EST (link)And I feel your pain.
Truly.
At any rate..
In The Hook (Diary) Monday, July 26th at 3:57PM EST (link)http://politifact.com/georgia/statements/2010/jul/26/melanie-crozier/abortion-group-says-gop-gubernatorial-hopeful-kare/
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bloodbuzzohio Tuesday, July 27th at 8:03AM EST (link)That link has no bearing on the facts as they relate to Handel’s 2005 vote to send taxpayer funds to Planned Parenthood.
Why is this the fight?
In The Hook (Diary) Monday, July 26th at 9:16AM EST (link)Frankly it seems to me that both candidates have fairly strong pro-life credentials with a minor black mark or two. So why are we having this discussion at all? Why is this the battleground on which we are playing? If both sides are equally not-exactly-pure-but-close, why is this the field on which the fight for the nomination is being played?
Why aren’t Handel supporters, Erick included, simply bypassing this discussion and slamming Deal for his ethics violation while in Congress? He left Congress early to avoid censure because he was wrongly using his office to generate thousands of dollars in business for his family’s auto salvage company. That’s not Rangel-like corruption but it’s getting there. Handel doesn’t have anything on her record remotely approaching that kind of abuse of office. Why not just run with that? If Deal abused his position as congressman, what’s to stop him from doing the same thing as the chief executive of Georgia?
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It sounds like both are imperfect
SirGladiator (Diary) Monday, July 26th at 9:24AM EST (link)As happens surprisingly often in political campaigns, we’ve ended up with two candidates who aren’t entirely perfect. They’ve each cast bad votes, one much more recent than the other, one for vastly more money than the other. Perhaps its best to look at what their positions are in the present instead of the past, given that each have imperfect pasts? My personal bias is in favor of the outsider vs the establishment, and thus I like Erick and Sarah’s endorsement of Handel. But certainly we should examine both their stands on the issues, none more important than Life. Based on what Ive read so far it seems like both candidates are pretty strongly Pro-Life in terms of their present positions, so perhaps Georgia Right to Life should be saving their money for use against people that actually support abortion? I think I read somewhere there’s an election coming up in a few months, and there just might be one or two candidates who support abortion and need defeating. It’d be nice if they still had money left to spend on those races, instead of wasting it on a Pro-Lifer vs Pro-Lifer fight. Just a thought
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Huh?
bloodbuzzohio Tuesday, July 27th at 8:07AM EST (link)“My personal bias is in favor of the outsider vs the establishment, and thus I like Erick and Sarah’s endorsement of Handel”
I need for you to please explain how Deal is establishment and Handel is an outsider.
Handel has served–in five years time, mind you–on the Fulton County Commission, Secretary of State, and now seeks the governor’s office. Her entire campaign operation is Sonny Perdue’s team. Sonny Perdue’s money people. Sonny Perdue’s communications staff.
Deal has been a congressman.
I’m not mocking you, I’m just curious how you arrived at Deal being the insider and Handel being the outsider.
Nathan Deal is NOT conservative
tpnoga1 Monday, July 26th at 2:22PM EST (link)While in congress as a Republican, Deal helped create this bloated mess we call the budget. He voted for Medicare expansion. He voted for the $26.5 Billion “No Child Left Behind”. He is a birther and called fellow citizens of Georgia “Ghetto Grandmothers”. WE DON”T NEED DEAL!
As a poster on another site said: “Sorry, No Deal!”
Changing the subject:
denisethemenace Monday, July 26th at 8:41PM EST (link)Beware RTL!
After their screwup in (N)(S) Dakota several years ago, it occured to me that they are in business for a reason. Allegedly, that reason is to stop abortion. But, stop and think for a moment. They’ve had 35 years of a secure job, a steady income, and lots of money and power to “manage”. So, what happens when Roe v. Wade is overturned?
C’mon: what happens?
There are other, ethical groups who are fighting abortion and it’s allied atrocities and would welcome your support.