A millimeter. A centimeter. An inch. They are all measures of distance. Even the smallest of them measures some distance.
Our job this year as conservatives is to put some distance between us and the left. In doing so, it is our job to push the Senate Republican to the right. Every inch counts when dealing with 100 senators and 40 or 50 Republicans.
Every inch.
In Kansas, the Republican will win the general election. The question is who — Jerry Moran or Todd Tiahrt. The distance between the two men may only be inches on some issues, but are miles on others. And in each case, Todd Tiahrt is to the right of Jerry Moran.
Todd Tiahrt moves the Senate right. Jerry Moran does not. In fact, Jerry Moran’s former campaign manager is declaring his support for Todd Tiahrt.
Moore provided a copy of his letter to The Associated Press and sent it to the Tiahrt campaign. He told AP he wrote it with “entirely no input from any other source.”
He was Moran’s campaign manager from February through mid-April, though campaign finance records show he remained on the payroll through May. He said he was forced out, without elaborating.
“To my surprise, Jerry Moran winced at the frequent use of the words ‘conservative’ or ‘pro-life’ to portray himself out of fear he might offend moderate or pro-choice voters,” Moore wrote in his letter.
Moore added: “He ultimately relented to the political realities and has thoroughly advertised himself as ‘pro-life’ and ‘conservative’ to describe who he needed to become to get elected.”
Sour grapes maybe. But it fits with Moran who, should he lose, will be another Bob Inglis — railing against those tea party rubes. If elected, he’ll keep quiet, but he’ll spend his time in the Senate, issue after issue, undermining conservatives.
That’s another reason we should all be supporting Todd Tiahrt.
Steve Maley
KnightsofMalta
erick - demint, coburn & thune?
philhoganjr (Diary) Sunday, July 25th at 9:14PM EST (link)why would they be endorsing moran over tiahrt? lack of due diligance? pork? i remember you saying they were both porkers, but is tiahrt the bigger of the two? rare that you and demint are opposite sides. what are we missing here?
Probably the same reason
redtillimdead (Diary) Sunday, July 25th at 9:40PM EST (link)Tancredo was. Moran lied to them. Also, Tiahrt is on the appropriations committee, which somehow makes his pork worse than Moran’s.
Nancy Pelosi can kiss my asstroturf.
It's not then
SteveLA (Diary) Sunday, July 25th at 9:53PM EST (link)Tiahrt’s support and co-sponsorship of the DREAM act?
or
Tiahrt’s to use a euphemism “reluctance” for a moratorium on ear marks? “Todd Tiahrt of Kansas, an appropriator, offered an amendment to strip the requirement for an earmark moratorium.”
Double Whoopsie
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Demint and Coburn roomed with Moran
realskinny (Diary) Sunday, July 25th at 10:12PM EST (link)in DC. Their endorsements are due to their personal relationships. Moran is better than a RINO but he’s closer to being one than Tiahrt. The KC Star has endorsed Moran. That should be all any Rep primary voter needs to know to vote for Tiahrt.
Simple Reason
benjammin37 Sunday, July 25th at 10:40PM EST (link)These guys are all roommates at C-Street. Some real fighters for the conservative movement have endorsed Todd: Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Karl Rove, Dick Morris, Kansans for Life, Kansas Rifle Association (who Moran Chief of State threatened), Mike Pence, JC Watts, Mike Rodgers, Chris Smith, John Ashcroft, Minutemen, Tom Tancredo, Over 40 state elected Reps and Senators are just a few of these conservative endorsements for Todd Tiahrt! He is the unashamed conservative that will actually be a far better ally to DeMint/Thune/Coburn than Jerry!
Tancredo
redtillimdead (Diary) Sunday, July 25th at 10:42PM EST (link)An important note there is he originally endorsed Moran, because Moran lied to him about his record. Kinda tells you something about Moran’s character.
Nancy Pelosi can kiss my asstroturf.
Playing Puffie
toneyal Monday, July 26th at 5:00AM EST (link)*************** WARNING *******************
A number of ultra liberal left wing political
groups are plotting to stop the November 2010
elections in the United States.
Their plan it to have a large number of their
members play a game known as “Puffie” and to
get a large number of T-Party members to also
play “Puffie”.
The T-Party members will be fooled into thinking
they are helping their cause to SAVE the
United States by playing this game.
What the result of this game will be is to
spread fear and panic in candidates offices and
give Obama a seemingly valid reason to issue a
presidential order stopping the elections and
keeping the current politicians in office until
the US police forces can end the “Puffie” event
and arrest/prosecute those playing the game.
Of course, only Republicans, Independents, and
T-Party members will be suspects.
Here is the text of the e-mail messages that will
be sent to the T-Party members:
***** Save the United States *****
********** Play “Puffie” *********
“Puffie” was inspired by this eBook which you
can read on your Kindle (or Kindle app on your PC):
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“Puffie” consists of many different people in
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candidates with a threatening letter that says:
“Obama Rules” filled with some unidentified powder.
The senders of the letters mix different powders
of things found around the house and are very
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letters and to seal the letters with a damp cloth.
Of course, use a bogus return address.
Send this message to others on your e-mail list,
along with candidates names and addresses, and
have them join the “Puffie” movement.
Watch the liberal press to see what the reaction is
from the candidates.
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Locked and Loaded (Diary) Monday, July 26th at 6:14AM EST (link)This spammer should be banned. nt
Locked and Loaded (Diary) Monday, July 26th at 6:14AM EST (link)What's the goal?
SteveLA (Diary) Sunday, July 25th at 9:25PM EST (link)Erick,
Fox News “Live Shots”, has coverage on this race, “Kansas GOP Senate Primary Race Gets Ugly”
Is it worth it to you to get in the middle of this mud fest? What specific stance on issues separate these two according to your view?
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And in Wisconsin, Westlake is well to the right...
pompadour (Diary) Sunday, July 25th at 9:57PM EST (link)…of Johnson. Yet, in spite of all evidence in front of you, you endorsed Johnson, Erick.
I’d still like to understand that one.
"Well to the right" ?
redtillimdead (Diary) Sunday, July 25th at 10:11PM EST (link)They are ideologically the same. There is no “evidence” Westlake is more Conservative. Being an underdog candidate does not make you more conservative.
Nancy Pelosi can kiss my asstroturf.
There's plenty of evidence, redtillimdead
pompadour (Diary) Sunday, July 25th at 10:31PM EST (link)Except you refuse to see it.
How many times do I have to explain this to you?
Johnson is…
Thinks the Constitution is a difficult document to read (lacks familiarity with founding principles)
Supports gun licensing (weak on 2nd Amendment)
Wants to keep the Patriot Act as is (weak on 4th Amendment)
Supports anti-trust regulation (weak on free market)
Has no coherent tax reform plan (weak on tax reform)
Says getting rid of the IRS is impractical (likely to continue status quo progressive tax structure)
Believes in exceptions on abortion (not as strong on life as he could be)
Not only is Westlake to the right of Johnson, his principles are more solid.
I can go on, if you like…
back to Westlake again
rdelbov Sunday, July 25th at 11:11PM EST (link)I tend to agree that Johnson is a super solid conservative.
Anti-trust issues? I have read thousands of articles about Campaign 2010 and visited 100′s of campaign websites–I have seen 1000 threads at this site-5 per day for 200 days.
Yet this is the 1st reference to Anti-trust? Westlake is strong on “anti-Trust” while Johnson is weak? With all due respect is this a burning issue in Wisconsin or anywhere? Did anyone discuss anti-Trust in 2008?
after another visit to Westlake website -no reference to anti-trust.
I don’t see the difference –at least on anti-trust—neither Johnson or Westlake seem to have strong opinions on it
I'm probably using an inadequate term, rdelbov
pompadour (Diary) Monday, July 26th at 2:08AM EST (link)Anti-trust refers to the prevention of monopolistic growth. I’m reaching for a term that’s more accurate. If you have one when you get done reading this, I’m all ears. What I’m attempting to get at is that Ron Johnson believes government should have the power to decide when a business has become “too large”–while it may or may not be a trust in the sense of a monopoly.
Let me explain why I’m deeply concerned by Johnson’s position and believe strongly that others should be.
Increasing corporatism in this nation has created a culture in which sizable businesses like AIG and Fannie and Freddie and Amtrak and Citibank and Goldman Sachs–the list goes on and on–no longer behave responsibly because they know that the messes they create will be cleaned up and paid for not by them but rather by the American people.
By current government standards, all of the aforementioned entities would be “too big to fail.”
But let’s be clear: Size is not the issue. Rather, the issue is moral hazard–which Washington refuses to recognize but continually reinforces in precisely these large corporate enterprises. If you haven’t seen the documentary Generation Zero, I would highly recommend it. It paints this picture very, very well.
In truly progressive fashion, we keep throwing more money and pointless, business-choking regulation at the “too big to fail” problem–despite the fact that it’s not really a problem at all. In fact, the regulations tend not to constrain in any serious way those whom the government defines as “too big to fail”–even though a big show may get made about it. Rather the regulations tend to penalize most seriously law-abiding companies who are NOT in bed with the government. Bailouts? They DO, of course, benefit those who receive them. However, along with heavy regulation, they also penalize the rest of us.
Let’s consider for a moment the new financial regulation bill that just passed. According to those who pushed for it, it aims to control the size of business. The government will now, indeed, have the power to decide when and if a business has become “too big.” It will also have the power to step in “correct” the “problem.” That means it will be able to seize and/or redistribute property at will.
Really, that’s just a raw power grab and clear interference with the free market. The government will now, more than ever, have the power to pick winners and losers. The government should NEVER have that kind of control. The deciding of success and failure should be left to the market alone. The FREE market.
The new bill will also supposedly eliminate bailouts. That’s another lie. In reality, it will institutionalize them. Why? Because it’s all part of the same aim–to give government control over the market and allow it to choose winners and losers.
So, to summarize, what are the actual outcomes of the government having this kind of power?
1) More bailouts, followed by greater national debt and heavier taxation that everyone will feel
2) Increased cost of business, which will likewise get passed on to the American people
3) The hemorrhaging of jobs to other countries as business finds it increasingly difficult, expensive, and uncertain to operate here
4) An economic death spiral
That all seems like pretty major, burning-issue material to me since it affects our freedoms, our economy, the free market system, and our employment rate. If this issue wasn’t pressing in 2008, it certainly ought to be in 2010.
Now, while Ron Johnson may not think he’s for bailouts, he’s said absolutely unequivocally on at least two occasion that he’s 100% in favor of the federal government putting its foot down when something looks like it’s getting “too big.” That position alone is disturbing in the comfort it expresses with unconstitutional overreach.
But that’s not all.
Logically, saying that the government should step in to prevent something from getting “too big” also means Johnson believes that something CAN get “too big.” That means, whether he admits it now or not, he’ll ultimately support bailouts as a “necessary” measure if something “too big” looks like it’s going down the drain. He will view it as a protection of the people rather than what it actually is: A FURTHER INSTITUTIONALIZATION OF MORAL HAZARD.
“Too big to fail– and giving the government the power to “prevent” it, as Ron Johnson supports–is a very dangerous, slippery slope. It contributes to a vicious cycle that can only be detrimental to the American people and to our economy. It leaves favored corporatist entities in tact. And furthers government control and redistributionist policy–all depending on how “too big” is defined and to whom the term is applied. Disastrous!
While Westlake may not have it anywhere on his website, he has definitely explored this issue in depth at the two vetting sessions I’ve attended. Like me, he feels it’s imperative to reintroduce the concept of moral hazard. He’s very clear on the fact that government overreach and “too big to fail” are both part of the problem. Ron Johnson, on the other hand, has either not connected all of the dots yet or honestly believes that the government should be more powerful than the Founding Fathers ever intended.
Hopefully I’ve managed to clarify my thoughts. I apologize if I was previously using poor terminology.
Without knowing
rdelbov Monday, July 26th at 9:21AM EST (link)the context of what Johnson said-and its not that I don’t trust you to relate his views but you are very partisan for Westlake.
I believe Johnson is taking a very conservative line there.
1. Let’s be frank now its been the government that has allowed these huge financial powerhouses to grow and not the free market. Its been a complete distortion of the free market to see Citibank-Bank of America-Fannie-Freddie-Wells Fargo-even Goldman to grow to size that have. Without FDIC insurance and numerous other government programs these insitutions would be so much smaller. Johnson and other conservative republicans want controls on these businesses because right now they operate not in the free market system but rather they operate with Uncle Sam’s credit (federal guarantees) backing up their every action. I assume westlake is not favor of bailing out these instutions-nor is any GOP senator but giving them carte blanc to operate without removing all these government guarantees is responsible. If Westlake is in favor dismantling the FDIC system he sure has not said so on his website.
2. I am all in favor of returning to pre 1929 business/free enterprise markets–I get the sense that is what you preceive as conservative. I don’t even see where Westlake believes in scraping the dairy program so I am not sure if he ready to go back to a “free enterprise-Adam Smith invisible hand days” of no government involvement in business. I sense you are imprinting your desires and views on Westlake but that he talks a good game but the reality his views are no different in action then Johnson. His website contains as many specifics as Johnson does.
Have you actually vetted, in person, either candidate, rdelbov?
pompadour (Diary) Monday, July 26th at 9:50AM EST (link)Because I have. And you are making a lot of assumptions. I would say it is you who is imprinting their hopes and desires on Johnson. Seriously, you’re not giving me credit for having done my homework.
As for where Westlake stands on these issues, you’re not going to believe anything I tell you. You’ve made that clear. So, if you’re interested, I would advise calling Westlake himself and asking him.
I fully agree with you about how things have gotten as big as they are. I think I made it pretty clear in my post above that the partnership of business and government–corporatism–has absolutely been a major underlying cause of the problem.
But have you actually asked Johnson if he wants “controls on these businesses because right now they operate not in the fre market system but rather they operate within Uncle Sam’s credit (federal guarantees) backing up every action”? Or are you assuming that.
Look, I’ve got at least two pieces of video I can dig up for you tonight in which Johnson clearly says he thinks that if things start to get “too big,” the federal government should ABSOLUTELY step in. That’s not government getting smaller and LESS powerful, rdelbov. There’s no way to interpret it that way. That’s giving the government power it should never have. And the words came right out of Johnson’s mouth.
In fact, after he said it the first time, I thought surely his handlers would correct him, and his position would change. They did not. In fact, the assertion was repeated more strenuously after Johnson had clearly had his talking points drilled into him for a forum in Waukesha. He’s dead solid on that position. Trust me.
I have vetted either candidate personally
rdelbov Monday, July 26th at 11:17AM EST (link)but you are setting an impossible standard for judging these two candidates.
You know Westlake and have spoken to him and therefore you know and understand exactly what he stands for on these crucial issues. Your understanding of his views-beyond whats on his website and youtube set him apart. I appreciate your passion but many other people have seen and heard Johnson but they feel 100% opposite of your views.
Again I repeat my points that Westlake seems to have no plan to eliminate the dairy program or import/export bank or FDIC insurance. He seems to be a fairly conventional GOP type.
Yes I am assuming that unless a Candidate and apparently Johnson and Westlake agree with this that unless you do away with FDIC insurance all banks will be operating with an implicit guarantee from the US government to back their assets. That means Bank of America or US bank or any bank in Wisconsin operates knowing that the US government is their backstop. I am for free enterprise-the free market more then anyone but is there any plan to do away with FDIC insurance? I do not see it?
So guess what? The US taxpayer is on the hook for what these banks do–that’s you and me. Is Dave Westlake proposing to end this system? If so post it to your site Dave>
So if the US Taxpayer is the backstop for Citi guess what? We have a say in how big our stoploss is. Citi and all these other banks cannot grow to monster size without the US government(that’s you and me) putting some rules on them. So when Ron Johnson and other GOP types say there are limits on what banks do they are standing up for mr. and mrs. US taxpayer.
This is not putting controls on the free market–the US banks already surrendered to the US government their freedom–this is saying what our bailout limits are.
I'll see if I can get an answer from Westlake, rdelbov,
pompadour (Diary) Tuesday, July 27th at 12:52AM EST (link)…on his position re: 1) the dairy program, and 2) the FDIC. I’ll get back to you, if I’m able to get a response. I do know Westlake’s not a big fan of subsidies, but don’t want to presume I know the answer to these specific questions.
Did you mean to say that you have NOT vetted either candidate personally? I think that’s what you meant. Please feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.
The thing is, MOST of the people I see talking about Johnson around here, like you, haven’t actually vetted him personally. Rather, they are making assumptions based on very limited talking points. And talking points is mostly all they have to go on because Ron will not debate, and he’s mostly been careful only to appear in situations–with two notable exceptions–where he doesn’t have to answer any challenging questions. Friendly crowds, so to speak.
I was just at another Johnson event this week. And while he did mingle with the audience after, it was a few brief moments for a few people to ask him questions privately–nothing like an in depth vetting opportunity, whether public or private. There were no questions taken from the audience where everyone present had an opportunity to see him think on his feet and hear and consider his responses. That sort of information is vital to being able to determine a candidate’s true qualities. The Johnson campaign isn’t providing it. As I’ve said before, he’s repeatedly canceled and failed to reschedule with respectful, interested Tea Party groups who want a chance to ask him legitimate questions.
The fact that the campaign won’t provide any such opportunity suggests that they, too, know their candidate would be in trouble if put in front of a more challenging crowd. And he was indeed in trouble in the Rock River Patriots meeting. That was, in fact, the first and only public vetting session of Johnson’s campaign.
I think Westlake is the better candidate also
itsjoanne Sunday, July 25th at 11:08PM EST (link)Unfortunately he just can’t raise money.
Unfortunately
redtillimdead (Diary) Monday, July 26th at 12:21AM EST (link)This is a thread about KS-Sen, not WI-Sen. I’m sorry I ever responded to the post above.
Nancy Pelosi can kiss my asstroturf.
itsjoanne, see post on campaigns and failed measure of money
pompadour (Diary) Monday, July 26th at 2:12AM EST (link)http://www.redstate.com/pompadour/2010/07/24/conservative-campaigns-the-failed-measure-of-money/
My question to Redstaters:
fbks (Diary) Monday, July 26th at 12:10AM EST (link)I understand the need to maximize the number of Republicans in the Senate, particularly conservative Republicans, to hold the line and go on the offensive to reclaim ground lost.
In Alaska we have an existing liberal Senator Murkowski who has a good chance on re-election and a conservative seeking the office Joe Miller. I understand the argument that if Miller prevails in the primary, he may or may not actually be elected and we have another Democrat to deal with.
But Miller is a conservative and Murkowski is a liberal and will not be a reliable vote to repeal Obamacare, or support securing the border and a whole host of critical issues.
I would appreciate knowledgeable comments on this. I will vote for Murkowski if I have no choice, but my heart isn’t into it,
It's a matter of good faith and dues paying
Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, July 26th at 12:19AM EST (link)Voting Republican in the general, backing the nominees, is a prerequisite to getting any thing you want out of hte GOP. You have to participate in good faith if you want to gain influence.
And then, once you have that influence, you get to matter in the primaries, assuming you pay attention and work hard in them, too.
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This one is easy
SirGladiator (Diary) Monday, July 26th at 2:28AM EST (link)In response to the earlier comment, you definitely want to vote for the Conservative in Alaska, not the liberal. Its Alaska, the winner of the GOP Primary is going to win unless he’s totally corrupt *and* currently under indictment, in which case he will still only barely lose if he loses at all. No doubt Murkowski is the weaker candidate of the two anyway, in addition to being more liberal, because everybody suspects/knows that she is totally unqualified and only got the job because she was appointed to it by her father. Miller will win by a bigger margin than Murkowski would, but either one will win. Im optimistic that Miller will win this race.
In regard to the Kansas race, I like Tiahrt also and I hope he wins, but I also agree with the argument that there’s a lot more at stake in other races, so if you’ve got a limited budget (like most of us) you should focus your donating-dollars on the Conservative vs Liberal races, like in Alaska and Delaware, instead of the Conservative vs slightly less Conservative races like this one. Of course its always nice to beat the establishment, and a win for Tiahrt would be satisfying, no doubt
. But I’ll be way happier if the Conservative wins in Alaska and Delaware, where they’re running against out and out liberals. Of course nothing says we can’t win em all, let’s just make it simple and win em all!