This Stuff Is Not Supposed to Happen in America


“When it becomes fair game to attack and intimidate private citizens and their families to advance a public policy, we cross over from an orderly civil democracy to something decidedly third world.

I would like to be gloating this morning that Charles Djou is the newest congressman from Hawaii. This won’t get a lot of play probably, but it should. Djou won Barack Obama’s home district in Hawaii. The district is heavily Democrat. The Democrats could not agree on a candidate and Djou, therefore, won.

I would like to be gloating, but there is a far more disturbing story out there we need to pay attention to. Barack Obama’s union friends are dragging us into the third world — and not just with their economic policies.

In Robert Mugabe’s Zimbabwe or Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela or in Thailand or in former Eastern Bloc countries it would not be unheard of for union goons to show up on a man’s doorstep to intimidate the man into submitting to the thugocracy’s will. It is not supposed to happen here.

A couple of weeks ago, Barack Obama told Wall Street that he, personally *he*, was all that stood between them and pitchforks. Well, Obama’s SEIU buddies decided to break out the pitchforks.

500 SEIU goons showed up on the front porch of a house belonging to a Bank of America Executive. The man’s 14 year old son was home alone and, fearing for his life, barricaded himself into a bathroom.

This comes a few years after MoveOn.org groupies did the same to Karl Rove’s house. Only that time they brought the media in tow.

Here is what is so stark and troubling about this incident: the media was not invited. The SEIU brought along a Huffington Post blogger to shoot some propaganda, but otherwise the media was not invited. Why not? Because this was an act of sheer intimidation. It wasn’t a publicity stunt. Had a journalist, Nina Easton, not lived next door we may never have known this happened.

Friends, this is not supposed to happen in America. More troubling, the former head of the SEIU, Andy Stern, was Barack Obama’s most frequent visitor to the White House last year. Patrick Gaspard, the guy who was in charge of the SEIU before Stern, is now Barack Obama’s political director. Gaspard’s brother is a lobbyist for ACORN.

The SEIU spent last summer beating up conservatives at congressional town hall meetings about health care. Now the SEIU is sending busloads of goons to the front porches of bank executives to intimidate them and their families.

When it becomes fair game to attack and intimidate private citizens and their families to advance a public policy, we cross over from an orderly civil democracy to something decidedly third world.

Had these been tea parties instead of SEIU activists, this would be the front page story of the New York Times.


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What a disgrace

rrreaganite (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 5:50AM EST (link)

The thuggery displayed by SEIU and similar union affiliated organizations is one of the most uncovered stories in America. The fact is, is that these organizations try to intimidate and terrorize innocent individuals who do not subscribe to their orthodoxy. The administration is in their pocket along with the democratic party and therefore the media as well. It is up to sites like RedState and others to stand up to these thugs. I commend you Erick for putting your neck on the line. Hopefully, we can get a Republican Congress in 2010 and a Republican President in 2012 like Ronald Reagan who will stand up to the Unions and their stranglehold on America.

“Indeed, in a free government almost all other rights would become worthless if the government possessed power over the private fortune of every citizen.” John Marshall

 

D.C. Police aided SEIU demonstrators ......

holystone Monday, May 24th at 5:56AM EST (link)

Based on several items I read yesterday the demonstrator’s buses were escorted to the house in Maryland by D.C. police vehicles and the local Maryland police were not notified until a neighbor called the police about the distrubance. Who authorized the D.C. police to take on this task? As I understand it the crossing of jurisdictional lines is only authorized under the policy of “hot pursuit” and the jurisidiction being crossed is supposed to be notified. I sincerely hope this gentleman, who is a Democrat by the way, sues the pants off of SEIU and the D.C. police.

Time to change parties, I'd think

america1st (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 6:33AM EST (link)

Confronted with the reality of zero’s regime, perhaps this victim will wake up and change his registration. Even better, teach his kid how to use a Remington or Mossberg 12 gauge to deal with home invasions!

Logic in the mind of a liberal is like a snowflake in the desert: lost, alone and soon destroyed by a hostile environment.

To all bank executives

mosander Monday, May 24th at 7:39AM EST (link)

Go to www.frontsight.com and take advantage of their offer. This is still a free country. Self defense is still a right. Intimidation is not. Additionally, for those who are frail, timid or easily frightened, get an absentee ballot because 1. the thugs will probably be at the polls or 2. we may have election “delays” for some contrived reason.

Sad to say, I believe it will come down to...

doctort Monday, May 24th at 2:37PM EST (link)

violence. Many of us are preparing in anticipation of the thug-in-chief’s ‘final’ reaction to freedon-loving citizens. He will lose his cool……

If he calls out tht thugs in 7 places now, be assured he will call them out again and again until we have no more choices. A Mossberg 12 will do alot of harm………….

At 66, I am learning how to shoot and making other preparations to bug-out. I will not be surprised if many of us have to flee.

I’ll be darned if I go out without a fignt!

doctor

 
 
 
 

This thug administration will eat their own.

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 6:41AM EST (link)

Let us hope that this will get some play in the media and that if there are any Dems with brains left, they will understand that the farther down the road to statism we travel, the more likely they are to be the next on the list for forcible “re-education”. This president will end up as bad a Pol Pot unless he is stopped. These thugs care only about their power and nothing about the citizen or his/her rights. They are nothing but sanctimonious crooks and bullies. We have to trumpet these incidents to alert the public to who these beasts really are. Thank God for the internet, it may be our only hope.

 

So...

pamela1631 (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 6:48AM EST (link)

Children are now fair game in the abuse of liberty.

Is forfeiture of one’s soul now a requirement to be a Union member?
Or just for the SEIU?

This republic was not established by cowards; and cowards will not preserve it. ~~Elmer Davis

I am stone forged from the fires of creation into flesh ~~Pamela1631

The greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced.~~Maj. L. Caudill, USMC (Ret.)

 

Face off with the GOP

NickDeringer (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 6:52AM EST (link)

If we take back the House and Senate in November and try to repeal any of Obama’s Marxist policies like ObamaCare, there will be union riots in the streets just like Greece.

We are not witnessing the normal swing of the political pendulum, We are witnessing the swing of the wrecking ball.

 

Call in the loan

Rick_Caird Monday, May 24th at 7:31AM EST (link)

It is also true SEIU has a large loan with BAC. Since, they attempted to intimidate one of the BAC officers, I suggest BAC publicly call in the loan.

That would take stones

Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 8:43AM EST (link)

And BAC has none.

 
 

third world tactic

spepper Monday, May 24th at 7:36AM EST (link)

Good description about the SEIU using “third world tactics”…….and what a coincidence that their controllers in the White House have a boss there, who most likely was BORN there……..

“There’s no such thing as coincidences” — Leroy Jethro Gibbs

 

Obama New Police Force

Greg (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 7:36AM EST (link)

This an example of Obama new police force wiping it citizen into the proper view point public policies.

 

O'Bummer's Thugs

clemy Monday, May 24th at 7:37AM EST (link)

O’Bummer grew up in Indonesia during the period of the Communist purge by Suharto. As Communists, it must have been pretty dicey for him and his family. After he got out of there, he was mentored by Communists in Hawaii and during college before landing with political sole mates in Chicago. Now that he has successfully lied his way into power nationally, he is using the SIEU thugs just like Robert Mugabe uses them in what was Rhodesia and is now the hell hole of Zimbabwe.

O’Bummer has a lot more in common with Robert Mugabe than George Washington.

 

In the corrupt third world countries

Scope (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 7:59AM EST (link)

the Drug Cartels are running the country. In the US, the current Progressive administration is backing the Unions thugocracy that has been obviously trying to make all of our citizens fear for their lives and safety. This is the tactic being used to strike fear into the Tea Partiers that are peacefully protesting the take over of our country by a bunch of Marxists. I wonder how successful they will be in causing many to stay home out of fear for their safety. When you have the DC Police escorting a bunch of haters to a private home, we are in deep trouble. What else would they be willing to do, round up everyone peacefully protesting in Washington, and throw them in jail? or make the loudest disappear like in Iran, Venezuela, or North Korea? I don’t know if we are going to survive until November, let alone until 2012. The question should be, even if the Republicans do take control of both houses, will they have the guts to proceed with impeachment of this Dictator before 2012. Even if it took until the O’s last day in office, he should be forced to leave in shame.

There is an obvious reason that the most jobs added have been Public sector Union jobs.

 

I read in a posting above the DC police assisted,

smitch61 Monday, May 24th at 8:33AM EST (link)

In bringing these thugs to the house. I also read that when the police were called, they refused to show up ( not sure if this part is true). Are these Obama police? This story is so disturbing on so many levels. This guy probably had no clue that a core group in his party are wacked out in the head. I mean after all, so much has come to light this past year, for me anyway. I was paying attention to politics while living my life, but had no idea really what was going on behind the scenes.

cross jurisdiction

incumbentrant Monday, May 24th at 11:51AM EST (link)

is what I understood. Apparently, the DC cops escorted the bus load of thugs to the house in an area outside their jurisdiction. Not surprising–given the current HO administration. Seems the DC cops didn’t let the locals know they were coming.

I attended a Jack Kingston townhall meet last week. As I approached the meeting place, I saw what I thought might be a bunch of SEIU/ACORN thugs milling about–turned out to be members of the local constabulary. Don’t know what kind of trouble they were expecting…

Correction. There were 14 bus loads. nt

Hugh (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 12:15PM EST (link)

Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it.
Thomas Sowell

 
 
 

Will this episode get any national media attention?

earlgrey (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 8:36AM EST (link)

It doesn’t look like the family wants to defend themselves.

A great comment

Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 8:48AM EST (link)

Reminds me of how Monica Lewinsky’s dad took one for the team. His gutlessness spoke volumes about why Lewinsky felt like what she did was OK. The Secret Service would have had to lock me up for life if Clinton did that to one of my daughters.

The executive and the company are getting exactly what they deserve. Wall Street is getting exactly what they deserve. Every person, state and company demonized by this administration is getting exactly what they deserve because not one of them has stood against these thugs (with the notable exception of Rush).

I pray for the day they storm my porch, and would happily provide them my address if they want it.

*5 x 5*

BA Cyclone (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 5:02PM EST (link)

Completely agree with you Mr. Savage. I wouldn’t pray these nuts trespass on my property, but if they do they might find my demonstration of 2nd Amendment rights unacceptable from their vantage point. I cannot be more serious.

Erick is right on with the angle, this stuff does not and should not happen in America. Period.

This event is jaw-dropping in its lack of respect, decorum, and any other angle you can conjure. It is ridiculous, dispicable, and barbarous.

A public hanging would be too kind and respectful for these perpetrators.

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The guy wasn't even on the Board of Directors...

jwinston Monday, May 24th at 8:50AM EST (link)

just a Deputy General Counsel.

It is shocking, shocking to see the media all but ignore it (speaking of the left media), and the hypocrisy is nauseating.

I was happy to see the right close ranks last week when they went after Paul to the point of MS-NBC publishing a faked transcript.

To those SEIU people, I’d advise they cease with these tactics, immediately. All it will take is for one of their nutjob members to harm someone at a private residence, and things will get out of hand.

Not hardly.

mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 9:14AM EST (link)

SEIU could burn down the house with the kid in it and get no press and no investigation.

So far, how many days into this, the best that the MSM can do is a pretty weak WaExaminer Editorial.

Let’s not forget, these guys are in bed with the Administration that dismissed guilty verdits (pleas?) against members of the New Black Panthers for intimidating voters.

 
 

These people are late to the "party"...

Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 9:05AM EST (link)

-this type of thuggery has been commonplace in Barack Obama’s America.

Ever since the financial crisis hit, he has encouraged his fellow traveling Democrat Party bandwagon to “get in their faces”. In response, they have shown up at homes of the financial industry “enemy”. It started with AIG and has been expanded to target anyone these pathetic losers believe is connected to the financial industry.

There were actually bus >“tours” which took these >thugs to various executives houses. These goons were actually harassing children trying to get on the school bus- to the point where people had to hire private security to protect their kids.

I now have neighbors who won’t talk to me anymore and other family members in the industry that had to improve their security situation. Welcome to change you can believe in.

“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson

 

Note to author (E.E.)

Ed_Wallis Monday, May 24th at 9:09AM EST (link)

What then are your thoughts about this:
http://www.foundingbloggers.com/wordpress/2010/05/is-president-obama-breaking-the-law/

Hmmmm. Two plus years, two comments.

mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 9:17AM EST (link)

And this isn’t a comment.

Tell ya what guy. If you want discussion on a subject you write a diary on that subject. Highlight third party sources and draw you own conclusions. Do not dirty up the living room with crap like this.

 
 

He is purposely provoking the citizenry.

grandma Monday, May 24th at 9:09AM EST (link)

The only logical motive for all that he is manipulating is his end game. The end game is martial law and the end to elections.

You all realize that we are just one step to the same type of riots as in Greece. The SEIU goon types are everywhere. It’s not just them either. Through the years I’ve seen steel mill and oil refinery wildcat strikes and how awful they can be. The ENTITLEMENT mentality is as pervasive throughout the country as it is in Greece if NW IN is any indication. Entitlement is a drug. And an addict will go to extreme lengths to get their drug.

 

I assure you that those SEIU "members" think what they did

Achance (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 9:22AM EST (link)

was really, really cool; that they were sticking it to the man or speaking truth to power or some such drivel. In all likelihood, most of the crowd was paid staff of SEIU’s locals and their national office along with staffers from other unions there for “solidarity.” Unions have a lot of trouble getting actual “members” out for stuff like this, so they rely on paid union staff to thicken up the crowd and friendly media to make it look larger.

This was not an exercise of the right to peaceably assemble or of freedom of speech; this was simple trespass the moment they crossed the line from the street to private property. As I understand it, even the assembly in the street was not properly permitted, which SHOULD have led to arrests.

That said, it isn’t a simple question for government leaders. These are probably Democrat governments, so they aren’t likely to do anything to any union unless that union directly attacks somebody in their administration. But even a legitimate non-partisan or Republican local government would face a delimna. Do you want to give them their Saul Alinsky moment? I’ve never had to deal with a union assault on a private home or individual, but I’ve dealt with lots of illegal assemblies and impermissible pickets. Usually just a phone call to the union head threatening to sue the union will take care of illegal pickets, but that is in the collective bargaining arena, not poltical as this was. With illegal assemblies at government buildings and such, my own belief was that unless they did something really awful, it was best to ignore them; what they wanted was for you to call the cops so they could get good vids of the cops hauling away their “peaceful protesters.” Rest assured they’ll keep that in the news for days with allegations of police brutality and sexual harassment.

There’s been lots of bravado here about meeting them at the door with a shotgun, and I’ve participated in it too. I would do that here in Alaska, though even here in Juneau, I would probably be charged and could be convicted if the prosecutor got the right jury of 12 morons with drivers’ licences. In a Blue place like the DC suburbs, you would at minimum be charged with assault, maybe attempted murder, and premeditated murder if you actually killed one or more of them, and they could find a jury to convict you of being a tea partier, a conservative, certainly being a Republican would be a crime to many juries. In places like that, I wouldn’t even brandish a weapon outside my front door and I’d only fire it if someone was actually coming in a door or window; you might sucessfully assert self-defense if they were actually entering your door or window. So, in the Blue and Purple places, we are already in the Third World when it comes to self-defense against these sorts of actions – and they aren’t likely to do much of this stuff in the Red places.

In Vino Veritas

very astute assessment

grandma Monday, May 24th at 9:31AM EST (link)

You are crazy

wyang2 Monday, May 24th at 9:58AM EST (link)

I must disagree with the bs in the above statement. Unions at one time were needed and to a certain degree needed today. However I was forced to join a union to keep my job for over 20 years and the union did very little for me at any time. Even when I was dismissed for a very minor rules violation. Any union that feels dumb enougn to come on private properity for any reason will be advised that some will suffer from lead posining.

 

Just turn on the lawn sprinklers to "high"

izoneguy (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 10:31AM EST (link)

Oops I forgot to set the lawn sprinker timer…..

Of course if they try messing with the heads they will break them off and more geysers of water will shut that party down…..

Maybe an enterprising inventor can make a “lawn sprinker canon”…
that shoots out geysers of water to keep the union hordes at bay.
That would make for great footage on the evening news.

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

They make motion activated sprinklers

Achance (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 10:40AM EST (link)

for pest control; that’d work, but you’d have to be expecting them to get it set up.

In Vino Veritas

I may get some of these

izoneguy (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 12:59PM EST (link)

My teenagers friends have wrapped our house, two weekends in a row.

http://www.contech-inc.com/products/scarecrow/

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

 
 
 
 

The tea partiers outnumber the SEIU. This is why the left hates the tea party movement and

streetwise (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 9:26AM EST (link)

their MSM cheerleaders ignore SEIU thuggery while defaming the tea party.

 

This is what we are up against

Hugh (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 9:28AM EST (link)

http://www.seiu.org/2010/05/nina-easton-post.php
http://www.seiu.org/2010/05/al-marshall-responds-to-nina-easton.php

I was checking the SEIU website to see if the DC Metro Police were members of the SEIU. Could not confirm that. It appears that The DC Metro Police are represented by the Fraternal Order of Police. I didn’t realize that the FOP was a union.
In any event, this trash was on the front page of their website. WOW. Someone once said “know your enemies”. It’s time that we did. These people are willing to play rougher than we are accustomed. We need to harden ourselves to be able to fight this stuff. Be prepared.

Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it.
Thomas Sowell

 

More "Union Bashing"

trumpetplayer Monday, May 24th at 9:32AM EST (link)

I have written this B4, But I am getting tired of “union bashing” Unions are NOT the problem with this economy. What makes union bashers think that a company will give them descent pay, decent hours, safe working conditions, HEALTH INSURANCE, paid holidays, paid vacations, personal days etc unless they were forced to do it? People literally DIED & shed blood to give the free loading parasite union bashers these things that they take for granted and don’t pay one centavo in union dues. Look up “Homestead Strike” & see for your self. As a former steward of local 252 Allied Industrial Workers(now USW) the aim of “collective bargaining” is NOT to create an environment where much is gained for doing little. It is FAIR wage for a Fair Day’s work. Businesses lie, cheat and steal to make a profit. They request tax abatements and agree to increase the workforce(create jobs) in return only to pack up & leave a year and a half later. I have seen it time & time again. They care nothing about the economic well being of the communities they are part of. They leave a big tax hole which is plugged by people now working part time a wages barely above minimum wage. Unions are NOT the cause of the problem. NAFTA & CAFTA + other so called “fair trade” agreements are to blame. Union or NOT union, you cannot compete with countries where wages are equivalent of $1.50 an hour or Government subsidized industry as in communist China. THAT, IS a fact!!! GREEDY CEO’s earn more in one week than I do in two years. If I were to cost a company money, I would be fired. If they are “fired” they get a bonus of MILLIONS of Dollars. What is it with these Union Bashers? Jealousy? You have the right under “free Speech” & “freedom of the press” (I think or though I’m not so sure anymore) to voice your anti union union bashing opinions. All I can do is respectfully request that it stop. Look at the BIG picture not exclusively the pro company “conservative” view. There are bad in both sides!

Wrong. It's not about complaining about collective barganing.

gekster (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 9:44AM EST (link)

It’s about a union being used to terrorize and intimidate private citizens.
Try reading the diary again.

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
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Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved

 

Trupetplayer, you're an idiot. Most of us were nice

Achance (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 9:47AM EST (link)

to you last time you were here shilling for unions but you never even responded to anyone. Unlike you, I and others here know something about unions at a level far above shop steward.

Nobody’s jealous of the mindnumbed robots that follow SEIU; they make crap wages, pay heavy dues, and are just pawns for a bunch of leftover SDSers that run these outfits. There are a few vestigial remains of trade unions in America, but actual private sector union membership is less than it was in 1932, BEFORE passage of the National Labor Relations Act. Most of what passes for unions in America are in the public sector or in industries dependent on government funding or permitting, e.g., regulated utilities and other regulated industries such as airlines and trucking, publicly funded constuction, constuctions requiring significant government permitting – here there’s an unholy alliance between the unions and the greenies, and, particulary for SEIU, the healthcare industry in which SEIU and the healthcare providers conspire to shakedown states and the federal government.

So, fool, you aren’t dealing with some noble struggle by working men for decent wages and conditions. These aren’t Sam Gomper’s or George Meany’s unions. They aren’t even Walter Ruether or John Lewis’ unions. These are Saul Alinsky’s unions and they function as storm troopers for a an increasingly communist dominated Democrat Party.

In Vino Veritas

 

You're not talking to economic illiterate 'progressives' here

TheSophist (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 9:56AM EST (link)

You hate GREEDY CEO’s? Those businesses that lie, cheat, and steal for profit?

Go start one. Buy shares in one, and force the Board to change it. Get all your union buddies together and start a company that could compete with Chinese labor on the basis of efficiency, productivity, and higher technology.

Unions served a purpose once upon a time, prior to labor laws, the NLRB, and the rest of the governmental regulation of labor. Today, you’re nothing but bloodsucking parasites that are killing American competitiveness and forcing us taxpayers to bail your asses out constantly so you get to keep your sweet health benefits and pensions, while the rest of us face ruin.

Economic wellbeing of communities? Oh, and you union people care so much about the economic wellbeing of communities? Great job you did in Detroit.

GTFO — you’re not talking to a bunch of economic illiterates here.

-TS

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You are a boob!

grandma Monday, May 24th at 10:10AM EST (link)

In long gone days, unionization had a good reason. Unions no longer serve the people paying their dues. They serve the union honchos who receive as much money as an average CEO. The union “leaders” are now sodomizing and using the dues paying members to keep their own pockets full. You just are either enjoying or are a totally brainwashed boob.

 

What has demonstrating at the home of a

Hugh (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 10:52AM EST (link)

bank emplloyee got to do with collective bargaining? Simple question. Would like a simple answer.

Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it.
Thomas Sowell

Nothing, but unions like SEIU don't do that collective bargaining stuff.

Achance (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 11:00AM EST (link)

They’re a Blue State union and have public and healthcare employees mostly. Public sector bargaining in a Blue state is simply a charade to move money from the taxpayers’ pockets to the union/Democrats’ pockets. There has been an active conspiracy between SEIU and big healthcare providers to use the union’s poliical power to increase state and federal contributions to Medicare/Medicaid/SCHIP/CalCare etc.

None of these big public/third sector “unions” are really unions; they’re socialist workers political parties with the legal right to compel contributions in half the states.

In Vino Veritas

Art, the biggest company that wants Unions in Healthcare is Tenet

Richard Mullins (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 11:18AM EST (link)

I already don’t like them and my dad has several times that he wouldn’t want to work for an employer that was unionized. Thankfully, he isn’t. I really think that we need to bring down Tenet Healthcare and other shameless promoters of unions. Unions should have no place in Healthcare at all.

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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.

Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.

 
 
 

Unions are now big business

brojohn2 Monday, May 24th at 10:57AM EST (link)

I have worked in union jobs and non-union jobs. I had better pay and benefits in the non-union shops than I did in the union ones. When I was serving in the Army, I worked in MDW (Military District of Washington), and watched as union workers actually refused to do the work they were hired to do. We were not able to discipline them nor could we fire them. We could only write them up and submit a report to our superiors. In the 2 years I spent there I was amazed at how little work was done by those who had gotten past the 6 month period and were then protected by their contract from being fired.

Unions are big business, look at the salaries of the union bosses. They take corporate level salaries for themselves and lay off their own workers to insure that they can pay their own salaries and pay for the lobbyists who front for them in D.C. as well as the VERY expensive lawyers who front for them in other arenas across our country. These SEIU people are nothing but thugs, and thieves as they beat up on innocent people and steal from their own membership to further their own power grabs.

“I suppose, indeed, that in public life, a man whose political principles have any decided character and who has energy enough to give them effect must always expect to encounter political hostility from those of adverse principles.” –Thomas Jefferson, letter to Richard M. Johnson, 1808

 

All it takes is freedom of competition-

ascrowe Monday, May 24th at 11:31AM EST (link)

“What makes union bashers think that a company will give them descent pay, decent hours, safe working conditions, HEALTH INSURANCE, paid holidays, paid vacations, personal days etc unless they were forced to do it?”

But of course, the left doesn’t like that. Greece is a shining example of how the “managed” economy fails.

Samuel

Samuel

“If we finally fail in this great and glorious contest, it will be by bewildering ourselves in groping for the middle way.”

-John Adams, 1776

 

I was a union member

wardjh Monday, May 24th at 12:26PM EST (link)

back in the 60′s, Teamster at that. I worked for a company that had unions for about 50 years. Every time that contract negotiations came up, the union would present their requests, the company would give their offer and we would take that company offer because is was more than we asked for.

Then we got a new local president. We went through the same drill as always, but he decided that we should ask for more. He upped the ante so high the company had to refuse. With a bare (I do mean bare) forced vote for strike the union struck.

It lasted for about six months, long enough for the company to finish its move from Missouri (a closed shop state) to Kansas (a right to work state). After the move, the company fired everyone, and offered the jobs back at the terms of their original contract. Most did. Even Jimmy Hoffa couldn’t persuade us otherwise.

Most of the unions at the time were corrupt. Not always at the local level, but for sure at the higher levels. I might remind you that the CIO was formed by a coalition of socialists and communists. Took them a long time to root out the communists.

Unions will become something useful when they are shed of all the government protection and influence. When it becomes a true collective bargaining group instead of a political force.

 
 

SEIU is O's basiji.

louisiana (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 9:33AM EST (link)

Will they suffer any consequences for their actions? No, which is why this will continue & will only get worse because they know they have O’s blessings. Like smitch61 mentioned, I also heard that the police would not show up for fear of inciting a riot. What? Where is the GOP on this issue? I might have missed it, but I have not seen/ read about any outrage on their part regarding this. I’m grateful I live in a state where I can forcefully, & legally, protect my life & property.

 

Did they come after charles Djou?

ruthie Monday, May 24th at 9:37AM EST (link)

What does this incident have to do with Charles Djou winning the congressional seat in Obama’s hometown after the Democrats in the district split their votes? Did this occur in that very same hometown? Was Djou also a neighbor on the street? Or is just that you’d be gloating, but can’t now because this unfortunate event occurred?

If the latter is the case, get used to it… because unfortunate events such as these are occurring all the time with Obama and his goons on the loose.

 

besides trespass, how many laws *did* they break?

spim Monday, May 24th at 9:42AM EST (link)

I’m no lawyer, and I don’t even play one on TV.

but wouldn’t they need at least a permit or something for hundreds of people planned to show up at any location in a major city?

 

Intolerable and unacceptable

pac_NY (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 10:15AM EST (link)

When I first read this story I was appalled, but Erick is right that this type of behavior against a private citizen is way, way over the line.

I believe many others have experienced the sense of an ominous pall permeating our nation since BHO has been elected, and there was much apprehension on the Right about him during his campaign because of who and what he is: a dictatorial thug with a gang of loyal followers.

How long must civilized citizens be insulted, coerced and provoked by this horrid administration?

This story needs unyielding national attention because it needs to be the very last time such an act takes place in this country.

He looketh on the earth, and it trembleth: he toucheth the hills, and they smoke. -Psalm 104:32

 

Look! Here Come The "Brown Shirts"

bay0wulf Monday, May 24th at 10:28AM EST (link)

well … OK … they’re wearing Purple Shirts as a disguise this time. I can’t say that I am surprised although a few years ago I would not have believed that it might happen in the USA.

Keep in mind that Nazism was about “National Socialism” and was considered by a large portion of the German citizenry to be a welcome “Change”. The Brown Shirts was their own version of “overly eager” supporters … I mean who could find fault with the few times that they got carried away?

Nazis weren’t ALL bad. They just got a little carried away. Besides, it would NEVER happen happen again …

REALLY???

Not to Jews this time

superamerican (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 11:41AM EST (link)

IT WON’T HAPPPEN TO JEWS THIS TIME AS THEY SUPPORT OBAMA. BUT THE “MEs” OF THE WORLD: WHITE, MALES…IT COULD COME AS WE ARE THE TARGET OF HIS VITUPERATION.

http://www.periodictablet.com

 

This Time

superamerican (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 11:44AM EST (link)

This time it won’t happen to Jews, they support Obama. But the likes of “me” — white males — watch out!

http://www.periodictablet.com

Superamerican

Dear Superamerican

Repair_Man_Jack (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 11:48AM EST (link)

I hope you are not here to create White Supremacists. If you were the type of maliciouse, iniquitous, evil and dispicable individual who would refuse to condone the eating and marketing of peanut butter because some black dude happened to invent it, I would appreciate you not participating here any further and have hopes that our patient yet capable team of moderators will soon gakk your account.

If this wasn’t your intent in posting about the JOOS, have a jaunty morning.

” I side impenitently with the human race against the modern reformer.” – C.S. Lewis

 
 
 

It could be worse

seandparnell (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 10:42AM EST (link)

Just wait until the pass the “DISCLOSE Act” (http://www.campaignfreedom.org/docLib/20100519_DISCLOSEcomments05192010.pdf), a little bill that would force private associations to reveal who their donors and members are. Not to difficult to imagine this group, or any other, showing up on the doorsteps of anyone who dares to support the NRA, or National Right to Life, or for that matter the Sierra Club and Planned Parenthood.

One of the goals of campaign finance “reform” for the last several decades has been to silence those voices that some find troubling, primarily by depriving those voices of the funds required to promote their views. It turns out that the threat of having a few hundred rabid activists show up on your doorstep can be a pretty effective way of keeping people from donating to controversial or unpopular causes.

But hey, as I keep getting told – “It’s just disclosure!”

Sean Parnell
President
Center for Competitive Politics
http://www.campaignfreedom.org

That's what they did in Colorado;

Achance (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 10:46AM EST (link)

the Republicans tried to set up a non-profit to counter the Democrat coup. The leftist/Soros/Gill cabal attacked the contributors to the Republican non-profit. Rather than thugs, they used pet lawyers and lawsuits, ethics complaints, and allegations of campaign finance violations, but the idea is the same.

In Vino Veritas

Yep

seandparnell (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 11:14AM EST (link)

Why bother responding to what your opponents say, when it’s easier to just demagogue based on who the funders behind a particular message are, and tie them up in legal proceedings?

Soros and Gill, by the way, have my full support and admiration for their willingness to put their own money behind any message they please – that’s their right as Americans. Just don’t stop anybody else from doing so under the guise of “reform” and “ethics.”

Sean Parnell
President
Center for Competitive Politics
http://www.campaignfreedom.org

Yeah, but that's the last thing they want.

Achance (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 11:20AM EST (link)

They want to silence anyone who opposes them and have been fairly sucessful at it.

In Vino Veritas

 

So long as they disclose where their money is going

civil truth (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 11:28AM EST (link)

Instead, these guys have set up a daisy chain of “non-profits” and shell groups to disguise the source of their money and to pretend that this web of organizations are independent of each other and grass roots actions – disguising the coordination and central planning.

And the various “reforms” coming out of Washington, including DISCLOSE, are being specifically and intentionally designed to protect the secrecy of the money funding the left while exposing donors to the right to increasing oppressive and puntiive disclosure requirement, even to the individual citizen level.

And we’re seeing the brown shirt intimidation tactics at the corporate executive level behind closed doors and now spilling out to the streets. The Prop 8 aftermath was a precursor – before long, any deviation from the Party message will be punished.

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

http://www.gmsplace.com/

Far-left Media

superamerican (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 11:52AM EST (link)

The other troubling issue is the veritable “ownership” of the far-left media (NBCBSABCNNMSNBC) by the Democrat Party. What’s the definition of propaganda. It was stunning to see Obama, President Felipe Calderon, and Carlos Slim, major owner of the New York Times, in their anti-Arizona love fest last week. (I am certain Obama, like his lap- and attack-dog Eric Holder, didn’t bother to read the law.)

http://www.periodictablet.com

Superamerican

 

Not really

seandparnell (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 11:56AM EST (link)

The DISCLOSE Act favors unions in many ways over businesses, but the disclosure stuff is actually aimed pretty equally at the nonprofit advocacy groups on the left and right.

And the point of my earlier comment was that disclosure is a pretty bad deal for free speech, so I can’t really sign on to the idea that “they [need to] disclose where their money is going.” I don’t really care, I don’t really think the funding matters much to whether a particular policy proposal is good or bad. Political movements are supposed to be able to coordinate and plan, without the government looking over their shoulder and disclosing to everybody the inner workings of those groups seeking to speak.

But you’re right about Prop 8 – punish donors to unpopular causes, and soon you’ll have fewer donors to unpopular causes…

Sean Parnell
President
Center for Competitive Politics
http://www.campaignfreedom.org

That's a real conundrum you raise, Sean

civil truth (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 12:18PM EST (link)

On the one hand, transparency of funding is critical for advocacy groups so that people do know who is behind these impersonal entities, as the names are often meaningless or deceptive, and thus can better judge the integrity of the message.

On the other hand, you do raise the specter (which we have seen of late) of individuals being subject to intimidation or retaliation (and violence soon?) for supporting an unpopular cause. Just as ballots are anonymous, there is an argument for anonymity in political speech as well – at least at some level.

I wonder this conundrum is really more of a symptom of an ongoing dissolution of the civic order, which laws can have at best only limited efficacy in rectifying, and which more often may just exacerbate the problem.

That is, if shouting down (or more violently repressing) opposing views becomes the cultural norm in place of vigorous debate – when trust breaks down – all the laws in the world aren’t going to but Humpty Dumpty back together again.

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

http://www.gmsplace.com/

It can be a conundrum

seandparnell (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 12:33PM EST (link)

If you think the messenger is more important than the message.

If you hear “Americans for a Great America” saying that taxes on the rich need to be higher and profits need to limited to make things “fair,” do you really need to know who’s funding that message to take a position on it?

Disclosure usually just inspires knee-jerk reactions – “ooh, the trial lawyers are opposed, so I have to be for it” and “uh oh, Big Oil wants this, so it must be bad.” Not the best way to decide whether any given policy is good or bad, in my view.

Sean Parnell
President
Center for Competitive Politics
http://www.campaignfreedom.org

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Liberty in Crisis

eagleed Monday, May 24th at 11:33AM EST (link)

I caught this on the news the day after it happened, but did not “connect any dots.” This blog raises troubling concerns. In Germany, in the thirties, as Adolf Hitler was rising to power as an elected official, the “brown shirts” acted to threaten and intimidate those who were likely to be his opposition. Hitler, once his power was consolidated, disavowed them and they disappeared, but by then he had profited from their activity. One thing that has always concerned me about unions is their intimidation practices, which are in the nature of groups that properly or improperly gain some kind of control over their fellow citizens/workers. “Card check” appears as an invitation to it, but this business with the public worker unions looks like a thin veneer over the kind of trouble happening now in Greece. It is disturbing to see the close connection between the president and people who have been and are today in leadership of these unions. Yet there is no action by the DOJ to curtail or even officially observe these activities. Why not?

I see trouble ahead for freedom, in any meaning. We had concern about the erosion of privacy in the anti-terrorist actions taken under Bush, and they have increased rather than been ended. “Eminent domain” has been interpreted in ways that almost erase the concept of private property. Now a different kind of threat to liberty is added. Where will intrusion into private life and personal liberty go next? Where will it end? I think the primary domestic purpose of government is to protect the individual from offenses against personal freedom, life and property. The cosy connection between large corporations of all kinds with government officials and elected officers, and the lust for power tempting every idealist who thinks he/she can make this a “better world,” are threats against individual liberty only the government can stand against, yet government is abused by both for their own ends. The corruption of government under both political parties is in the clearly observable failure to enforce the law and defend the constitution against those who would enslave us for their profit or for “our own good.” Indeed, the federal government seems to move inexorably toward being the primary force against the citizens of the country. This blog is incidental. There are many signs of the problem which troubles me. They may be seen from both ends of the spectrum of opinion, and the willingness to lay the blame on “the other party” is a diversion used effectively by demogogues on both. For me at least, liberty is more important than any other issue under discussion. Offended on every side, liberty may not stand much more constriction.

There will NEVER be USDOJ action against a union

Achance (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 11:51AM EST (link)

during a Democrat administration unless a union goes off the reservation and directly attacks the Administration or a prominent member of the Administration without permission.

In Vino Veritas

 
 

BROWN SHIRTS?

superamerican (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 11:34AM EST (link)

Please read MY blog of Friday about similarities of the SEIU and Mussolini’s Brown Shirts. While Obama is no Mussolini, nor the SEIU a replica of the BS, it is troubling especially when joined with Obama’s unconstitutional activities, such as attacking Toyota for the benefit of trial lawyers and arch competitor Obama-owned General Motors; the lack of prosecution of the New Black Panther Party’s voter intimidation and, finally, the suits against Goldman Sachs in order to get passage of the Financial Takeover Bill, not to mention the danger in the bill itself. The Rule of Law is being overcome with the rule of Obama and the seeming-arbitrariness of his rule. In fact, every move he makes is carefully politically-choreographed: damage opponents, reward supporters.

Http://www.periodictablet.com

Superamerican

We seem to be on the same page here

civil truth (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 11:39AM EST (link)

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/05/24/this-stuff-is-not-supposed-to-happen-in-america/#comment-70582

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

http://www.gmsplace.com/

My comment here is not an endorsement of your comment above, superamerican

civil truth (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 11:57AM EST (link)

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/05/24/this-stuff-is-not-supposed-to-happen-in-america/#comment-70590

I’ll echo Repair_Man_Jack’s rejoinder.

And note that it WILL happend to the Jews again. Being a “useful idiot” has NEVER protected anyone from the concentration camps – rather it makes it easier to round them up and more amusing when they arrive at the camps and a few start to realize what they were blind to.

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

http://www.gmsplace.com/

kowalski - and your "group" identity bit is not a conservative value

civil truth (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 12:01PM EST (link)

Jews are not monolithic supporters of Obama – I know quite a few who are standing against him and putting up their money and time.

And please don’t try to create a new “identity group” of white males. This is the path to hell.

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

http://www.gmsplace.com/

Stereotypes

superamerican (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 12:59PM EST (link)

All of my comments are made with a sense of humor, which seems to be lacking in this here country of ours. Remember laughing? I don’t know about the path to hell, but let’s go!

Superamerican

 
 
 
 
 

Don't rule out it having been a "Potemkin Mob."

Achance (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 12:23PM EST (link)

Sometimes these things are just for show. The company is currying favor with the regime, the family isn’t doing anything, the cops were involved but didn’t do any cop things, and the only media there was HufPo, usually they want a really big show for these things. Now there’s a opportunity for somebody to regret the excessive zeal but to also feel the real issues the mob was trying, however inappropriately, to bring to public attention.

In Vino Veritas

 

Again, it's the rebirth of the '30's SA

johnt Monday, May 24th at 12:39PM EST (link)

Who says you can’t learn something from Hitler, Obama has.
Where are all those people so worried about fascism from 2000 to 2008?
This scum was on the very doorstep of a private home, when does the scum go in or through the front door?
Katie, Charlie Gibbs, and Keith Olberman, any decency left, any outrage?

“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville

 

How do you think they wrecked the economy?

gspurlock Monday, May 24th at 1:01PM EST (link)

How do you think they got banks to make all of those bad loans to people would could not afford them?

This has been going on for a long time.

Now, when conservatives get together to hold a rally, everyone says, “Stay calm now…”

Why isn’t anyone telling Obama, Pelosi and Reid that they are the only ones standing between them and pitchforks? Why do conservatives constantly emasculate themselves, then run cowering when these criminals behave in their normal manner?

Wake up folks and stop pandering to these criminals. No one on the left is going to ever show any restraint. They only understand force, so why don’t we recognize this and respond accordingly?

Best regards,
Gail S
http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com

Best regards,
Gail

Choice

superamerican (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 1:47PM EST (link)

Actually each person obtaining had a choice — request and apply for the loan or not. Free choice, no coercion. That is the free-enterprise system. It all was only perverted by the Democrats forcing — no freedom here — banks, then Fan and Fred — loans to poor people who could not repay. “Low income”. Coerciion by government.

Get the difference, Gail?

 
 

This..

notthenews (Diary) Monday, May 24th at 1:44PM EST (link)

Bank of America Executive shoulkd charge the protestors and SEIU for trespassing. It is one thing to stand on public property to exercise your 1st amendment rights, but that right DOES NOT extend beyond the property line of a private citizens. If it were me, I would have the ring leader of the protest arrested and the SEIU leadership for allowing it, for trespassing.

notthenews