What is Dan Coats Hiding and Why is No One Paying Attention?


One of the purposes of a primary is to get everything out there and let the voters of a party pick who they think is the best candidate to beat the Democrat.

To do that, voters need the essential information on a candidate. But Dan Coats is hiding some very key essential information from the voters. He does not want it out there until after the primary is over.

Why? What is he hiding?

Dan Coats is refusing to file his financial disclosure for the Senate. The deadline was weeks ago. At the time, Coats claimed he got bad advice (a pre-cursor of what is to come no doubt) and thought the deadline was different.

Still, weeks later and knowing the deadline was weeks ago, Dan Coats has failed to file his disclosure report. Now, even the Democrats are attacking him before the Republican primary, which gives you an indication of just how significant this is.

We know that Coats has lobbied for Democrat interests. We know, for example, he lobbied in favor of TARP and the stimulus. He is rumored to have financial interests that will benefit from Obamacare’s passage.

But to what extent? What don’t we know. There are lots of questions that can only be answered with his financial disclosures.

If Republican primary voters knew about those interests, they might not want Coats representing them. Is that why he’s trying to drag out his disclosure until after the primary?

What is Dan Coats hiding?


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Rumor & Innuendo?

jmell7 Monday, April 26th at 11:23AM EST (link)

It’s kind of funny. The people who know Dan Coats the best…Indiana voters…are on the verge of making him the Republican nominee for Senate. Next week we’ll know for sure.

Yet others who don’t really know Dan Coats like to play the game of “if I don’t know something must mean it’s something bad.” I don’t know what is in those financial disclosures, but I do know Dan Coats is a very honorable man who most of Indiana trusts. Guess we’ll see who’s right and who’s wrong.

Bottom line is that I understand there is this late push for Marlin Stutzman, but why can’t Marlin be pushed on his own merits without tearing down a good man who just happens to be older and pushed by the NRSC. This is just a really brilliant move on how to fire people up to take back a Democratic seat in Indiana. Let’s tear down the nominee…that will surely get people out to the polls.

Since you know him so well you should ask him why he hasn't filed his financial disclosure.

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 11:31AM EST (link)

Also, trust is a nice thing, blind faith is something totally different.

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pro-life

Steven Ertelt (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 11:28AM EST (link)

One thing is for sure. Dan Coats is phenomenally pro-life and has the endorsement of James Dobson. He has always been well-liked by pro-life and pro-family leaders and led pro-life amendments in the Senate.

See http://www.lifenews.com/nb285.html

So is Stutzman...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 11:35AM EST (link)

Do you have anything to say about the substance of this post?

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


 
 

pro-life

Steven Ertelt (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 11:28AM EST (link)

One thing is for sure. Dan Coats is phenomenally pro-life and has the endorsement of James Dobson. He has always been well-liked by pro-life and pro-family leaders and led pro-life amendments in the Senate.

See http://www.lifenews.com/nb285.html

 

Coats will not be the nominee

indyjohn Monday, April 26th at 11:39AM EST (link)

What Coats is no doubt hiding is that, after tucking his tail between his legs and running away from Evan Bayh, he cashed in on his political connections and has spent the last decade enriching himself in ways that, if known, would not meet with the approval of Indiana’s voters.
Dan Coats has demonstrated by his actions that he is a willing and active participant in the D.C. political culture, which rewards those who play by its rules and don’t rock its taxpayer-funded boat.
The people of Indiana need someone who will capsize the boat.
The nominee will by Hostettler or Stutzman, don’t worry.

But what is liberty without wisdom, and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness, without tuition or restraint.
Edmund Burke

 

Living In Indiana....

Ned Ryerson (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 11:43AM EST (link)

There seems to be a sense of falling back on the old reliable candidates with name ID. I live in the 9th district (Baron Hill). Mike Sodrel seems to have support, not mine of course, but support, because of his name ID. As dumb as that sounds, it is my only thought as to why this is happening. There are much better candidates for senate and the 9th. Todd Young is my conservative choice for the 9th, he can win! Can Marlin Stutzman win? We will find out on May 4th.

I lived in Indiana until I moved in 2009

pilgrim (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 11:54AM EST (link)

I never expected Indiana to have the opportunity to vote in some new fresh conservative people into Congress. Nobody saw it coming the announcement by Evan Bayh.
Instead of going with retreads like Coats and Sodrel it would be nice to have some new conservatives elected from Indiana. Since you live in the 9th district, what do you think of Travis Hankins? If he gets support from Mike and Greg Pence, then I think that would very favorable for him.

http://www.travishankins.com/bio.htm


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Hankins

Ned Ryerson (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 12:08PM EST (link)

Hankins does not have the experience. He is just shouting platitudes from the rooftops. He has no details, no specifics, nothing but 3 or 4 phrases he uses over and over again. I have known Hankins for years. I also know Mike Pence, from being a radio guy for years. Pence is not the kind of guy to endorse in a primary, but wait and let the voters decide, then he will get behind them.

Hi Jay!

bjasper Monday, April 26th at 12:58PM EST (link)

Hi Jay!! Long time!!! I still have the same e-mail, drop me a line and let’s catch up.

Hi Brian/Sodrel

Ned Ryerson (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 1:48PM EST (link)

Good to see where are hanging out at the same right wing web sites! Vote for Todd Young on Tuesday, unless you are in Pence’s district. I cannot remember your email. Refresh me on that one..As far as Sodrel goes, he is not a BAD choice, there are better choices in IN-9. I attended a debate 2 weeks ago, Sodrel was arrogant, defensive of his record as the defecit went WAY up during his 2 years in office and his 12,000 plus earmarks he voted for. Plus Baron Hill has beaten Sodrel 4 out of 5 times for this seat, so we are ready for new blood conservatism in IN-9.

 

Hi Brian/Sodrel

Ned Ryerson (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 1:48PM EST (link)

Good to see where are hanging out at the same right wing web sites! Vote for Todd Young on Tuesday, unless you are in Pence’s district. I cannot remember your email. Refresh me on that one..As far as Sodrel goes, he is not a BAD choice, there are better choices in IN-9. I attended a debate 2 weeks ago, Sodrel was arrogant, defensive of his record as the defecit went WAY up during his 2 years in office and his 12,000 plus earmarks he voted for. Plus Baron Hill has beaten Sodrel 4 out of 5 times for this seat, so we are ready for new blood conservatism in IN-9.

Go Todd Young!!!

bjasper Monday, April 26th at 2:09PM EST (link)

I’m now in Pence’s district. We moved!

The polling data on the 9th shows a massive lopsided victory for Sodrel. Neither Young nor Hankins is even a blip in Sodrel’s mirror. Young and Hankins are polling in the teens while Sodrel is in the high 40′s. Sodrel’s numbers are also heavy against Hill, so it seems Sodrel will be your guy. Hankins is being exposed for the fraud he is too. I wish Young would win it though. That would be my choice.

I wish Redstate would have researched our senate race before prostituting themselves for Stutzman. See my post below for info showing Stutzman as the RINO he is. Be careful on this site, there are a lot of people who are only here to make personal attacks on any one who isn’t for their candidate. Then they wonder by are side can’t win or govern even if we do win!!

IN-9

Ned Ryerson (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 3:23PM EST (link)

I do believe that whoever wins on the GOP side will better a vast improvement from Baron “you are not going to tell me how to run my congressional office” Hill, but I do wish we could get a fresh face in the seat, like Todd Young, that is why I am actively supporting him, going door to door in my “hood”. As far as the senate race, It is the GOP’s to lose. We will accept who wins the primary on May 4th. I have noticed that Redstate does seem to back candidates that really don’t have a prayer of winning, why is that?

 
 
 
 

Hankins is the real deal

SCGOP (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 3:16PM EST (link)

Hankins offers more detailed specifics than just about any candidate in the country. Can’t you read?

www.travishankins.com

I live in Hankins hometown of Columbus, not SC.

Ned Ryerson (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 3:27PM EST (link)

Yes, I can read. Hankins is not a good candidate. He is sophmoric at best. He may have a decent web site, in person he makes a bad impression. A nice kid, but needs to have some sort of a resume’. He has done nothing. He is only 28 and needs to do something to prove he is worthy of a vote. Whoever wins is “going into Satan’s Lair”, I am going with the ex-marine, Todd Young.

Liberal Todd Young

liberty2208 Monday, April 26th at 3:30PM EST (link)

Todd Young is a liberal Lugar Republican who does not take a conservative position on anything. Liberal Young is a puppet of the country club set who can’t stand real conservatives.

what is liberal about Todd Young?

Ned Ryerson (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 3:36PM EST (link)

besides you saying so. Yes, he did work for Lugar (the crime?). As per usual when you don’t have any facts, start name calling, very nice liberty. Young is on a board of a pro life ministry, volunteers his legal services to help people adopt, served for 10 years, proudly in the marines, Oh….because he is not poor, that makes him part of the “country club”.

Get out quick!

bjasper Monday, April 26th at 3:49PM EST (link)

Jay back away slowly…. don’t make any sudden moves…. this site is full of crazies!!!

On another topic, my wife tells me a lot of people have been trying to get ahold you (4H etc.). Get my number out of the book and call me. I’m not about to put any personal info on this site with these nutjobs. No wonder the left thinks conservatives are all a bunch of crazies!!

bjasper, you say we are all crazies so why are you here? nt

pilgrim (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 4:00PM EST (link)

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G'bye (nt)

Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 4:08PM EST (link)

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The stupid is strong around here today.

Bill S (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 4:35PM EST (link)

And this clown is a prime example.

You folks are just making it clear that Erick’s position on Stutzman was the right one. A more nuanced argument might get some more ears, but crap like this just cements it.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

Actually, nuanced approaches don't really make much of a difference either.

NightTwister (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 4:56PM EST (link)

You’re right about this one being an idiot though. Even cockroaches run and hide when the light is turned on.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill

 
 

Get out?

Ned Ryerson (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 4:37PM EST (link)

I will look you up Brian. I sometimes wonder why I keep coming in here, it must be like looking at an accident along the highway, you can’t stop looking! I think RedState does a good job on somethings, like capturing video you may not see elsewhere. Erick is now on CNN so my odds of seeing him are well….zero. I had more people over for dinner Saturday Night (3), then watch CNN. If a tree falls in the forest….well you see where I am going…

Feel free to leave Jay. nt

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 4:39PM EST (link)

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


 

Don't let the door hit you in the butt. [nt]

Bill S (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 4:48PM EST (link)

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

 
 

Get out?

Ned Ryerson (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 4:37PM EST (link)

I will look you up Brian. I sometimes wonder why I keep coming in here, it must be like looking at an accident along the highway, you can’t stop looking! I think RedState does a good job on somethings, like capturing video you may not see elsewhere. Erick is now on CNN so my odds of seeing him are well….zero. I had more people over for dinner Saturday Night (3), then watch CNN. If a tree falls in the forest….well you see where I am going…

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Hankins

Ned Ryerson (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 12:08PM EST (link)

Hankins does not have the experience. He is just shouting platitudes from the rooftops. He has no details, no specifics, nothing but 3 or 4 phrases he uses over and over again. I have known Hankins for years. I also know Mike Pence, from being a radio guy for years. Pence is not the kind of guy to endorse in a primary, but wait and let the voters decide, then he will get behind them.

 

Go Travis Hankins

SCGOP (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 3:12PM EST (link)

Travis Hankins is one of the top conservative candidates in the entire country. Hankins is the type of Republuican we need to get this party on the right track.

 
 

You Know, No One As of Yet Has Been Able To Elucidate What's "Wrong" With Sodrel

IJB Monday, April 26th at 12:29PM EST (link)

If I were an IN voter I’d be disinclined to dump him – until I hear something *specific* he did wrong while in office, I see no reason why he’s not the best choice.

 
 

Living In Indiana....

Ned Ryerson (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 11:43AM EST (link)

There seems to be a sense of falling back on the old reliable candidates with name ID. I live in the 9th district (Baron Hill). Mike Sodrel seems to have support, not mine of course, but support, because of his name ID. As dumb as that sounds, it is my only thought as to why this is happening. There are much better candidates for senate and the 9th. Todd Young is my conservative choice for the 9th, he can win! Can Marlin Stutzman win? We will find out on May 4th.

 

Asking Coats for his disclosure form seems like a reasonable request

RedBeard Monday, April 26th at 11:50AM EST (link)

Failure to make this info public now will only hurt Coats more later if he is the nominee. Why would he want to hand ammunition to the enemy?

Coats should immediately file the disclosure and let the chips fall where they may. Continued stonewalling will only harm his chances.

Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.

 

Erick - I don't like your tactics.

RINKER Monday, April 26th at 12:15PM EST (link)

Dan Coats is a GOOD MAN. He may not be your first choice, and I’m even pulling for Stutzman. Still, Dan Coats is no RINO. He is a solid conservative. Just because he is not your preferred candidate is no reason to pull these kind of sensational tactics.

As opposed to your tactics of putting words in Erick's mouth?

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 12:25PM EST (link)

Erick didn’t call Coats a RINO, now did he. All Erick did is ask why Coats is refusing to file his financial disclosure.

Are we now not allowed to ask any questions of potential candidates in a primary.

Please.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


Did I say he did?

RINKER Monday, April 26th at 12:39PM EST (link)

Who is putting words in mouths? I didn’t claim he did call him a RINO. The point I was making is that Coats is one of us, and doesn’t deserve this treatment. I could understand if Erick was going after a RINO, but he isn’t being fair to a decent man simply because it isn’t who HE wants. Let’s be mature about this.

So what tactics were you referring to then Rinker?

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 12:52PM EST (link)

Let’s do be mature about this. Erick is pointing out that Coats is already being attacked by the Democrats for not filing his financial disclosure, and your response is that Coats isn’t a RINO.

No one made that argument, so why bring that into the discussion unless you were referring to that as one of these tactics that Erick was employing.

You are the one who is lacking in maturity, as shown by your inability to address the substance of the post.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


This is getting ridiculous.

RINKER Monday, April 26th at 1:55PM EST (link)

This is not the first post slamming Coats. Since Coats is a true conservative, why not pump up the merits of Stutzman without trashing Coats. THAT is my point. I’m FOR STUTZMAN, btw.

Rinker, this is simple...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 1:58PM EST (link)

Address the substance of the post. Don’t cry about unnamed tactics that you think Erick may be using, but make no attempt to actually prove.

I don’t care who you are voting for.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


Aaron

RINKER Monday, April 26th at 2:04PM EST (link)

why are you being so nasty? …and to a fellow conservative? Just because we don’t agree about Erick’s post? You aren’t going to swing many people to our cause with your attitude.

Erick has slammed Coats with several posts. He should be praising Stutzman instead of trashing Coats. Coats is a decent man.

Rinker, is it nasty to ask that you address the substance of a post instead of create strawman arguments?

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 2:08PM EST (link)

If so, then I guess I am nasty.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


The tactic is ATTACKING COATS

RINKER Monday, April 26th at 2:17PM EST (link)

Stop being a smart-aleck, Aaron. We probably agree on 98% of things.

The headline screams “WHAT IS DAN COATS HIDING”. There is no need to go after a good man by implying he is sleazy or unethical.

Rinker, I would ask that you refrain from calling me names please.

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 2:22PM EST (link)

The headline was in direct relation to an action/inaction by Coats.

Maybe you don’t care what Coats has been doing since he left D.C., but that doesn’t mean that by Erick asking the question that the questio is off limits.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


There is no mystery.

zzbigreddogzz Monday, April 26th at 2:25PM EST (link)

He’s been an Ambassador and a lawyer lobbyist. He’s also helped Bush with judicial appointments.

BTW, this “lobbyist” = evil logic is just about as compelling when Republicans use it as when Obama uses it to demonize people he disagrees with.

No, I am not a lobbyist.

I already got banned once, but I came back because … well, you tell me. I’m a loser? I’m here to cause trouble? I just plain hate it when the talking wallets (you guys) actually make demands of our candidates instead of being quiet and obeying your betters? Take your pick.

Hi retread zzbigreddogzz

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 2:29PM EST (link)

Him being a lobbyist isn’t the issue. It’s that he won’t release his financial disclosures.

You are correct that being a lobbyist doesn’t = evil. Coats should embrace that line of logic and submit his overdue financial disclosures to prove that point.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


 

G'bye (nt)

Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 2:35PM EST (link)

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o brother

RINKER Monday, April 26th at 2:25PM EST (link)

ATTN: RINKER

Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 2:52PM EST (link)

Site administrator here.

You *will* be respectful, or be banned.

Your call.

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What about Aaron?

RINKER Monday, April 26th at 3:36PM EST (link)

It is okay for him to talk down to a poster? I expect he will be banned for not being respectful, too?

Oh here we go....

Christine (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 3:41PM EST (link)

The old “but he’s just as bad as me” arguement.

I predict arrival of the blamstick in 3…2..

The primary process is FLAWED. Two states should not decide our candidate.

“I would be a poor Commander in Chief”
– Barack Obama, July 3 2008

This is silly.

RINKER Monday, April 26th at 3:42PM EST (link)

I tried to make a point about erick’s post being over the top, and I get blasted by Aaron. I’m not saying he is “just as bad as me”. I did nothing wrong.

Nothing except erect strawmen and call me immature, nasty, a smart aleck...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 3:47PM EST (link)

All the while never addressing the actual substance of the post.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


Aaron.

RINKER Monday, April 26th at 3:51PM EST (link)

The mature comment was meant that I thought Erick implying Coats was shady was not mature. It didn’t refer to you.
The nasty comment was in a reference to your tone in each of your responses to me. You have come across as pretty terse, and I don’t think my comments warranted your terseness.
The smart aleck comment was because I felt I had made my point and you kept saying I had not.
I’ll be a big enough man to say I’M SORRY IF I OFFENDED YOU.

Are we all happy conservatives now??????????

That's not how conservatives apologize. nt

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 3:57PM EST (link)

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


How do they then?

RINKER Monday, April 26th at 4:03PM EST (link)

You don’t think you’ve been rather terse with me and others in this post?
I apologized for calling you a smart aleck. If you expect me to grovel, forget it. I’ve done my part.

Others here have agreed with my post, and I feel like I have addressed the substance of my argument. Fully. Let’s just agree to disagree, Aaron. We’re on the same side here.

"I’M SORRY IF I OFFENDED YOU."

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 4:07PM EST (link)

You should have stopped after sorry, or used “that” instead of “if”.

Also, you did address the substance of *your* post. Too bad that’s not what I asked for.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


 
 
 
 
 
 
 

If you don't like Aaron's behavior, hit the contact form

Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 3:42PM EST (link)

But the rule stands with respect to you. End of discussion.

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How was I disrespectful?

RINKER Monday, April 26th at 3:43PM EST (link)

Please explain.
This is silly.

Calling him a name (nt)

Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 3:48PM EST (link)

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Let me just say this...

RINKER Monday, April 26th at 3:53PM EST (link)

As a fellow conservative, it would be helpful to foster discussion among FELLOW CONSERVATIVES if – when we disagree with Redstate’s position – we don’t get jumped on. Just a suggestion.
As for Aaron, see my post above.

the name

RINKER Monday, April 26th at 3:55PM EST (link)

If smart aleck is SO DEEPLY OFFENSIVE I will not use the term again. (See, I can be one, too. lol)

 

I tried to foster discussion, you refused to address the substance of the post. nt

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 3:59PM EST (link)

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Tactics are similar to those used against Bob Bennett

vital0gy Monday, April 26th at 1:57PM EST (link)

Every few days we get to open up Redstate and see another article against Dan Coats. Pretty reminiscent of the same tactics used against Bob Bennett. Dan Coats is NO Bob Bennett. I understand that many people from outside of Indiana seem to despise the guy, but this is OUR primary. The people of Indiana will decide this race!

On another note...

RINKER Monday, April 26th at 2:01PM EST (link)

I’m not really a fan of the tone here. Redstate doesn’t speak for all conservatives, and to act with such a tone towards anyone who supports Coats OR someone like me who supports Stutzman but not the tactics… not good. I think the Redstate mods need to take a chill pill.

But your tone is appropriate Rinker?

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 2:04PM EST (link)

You haven’t addressed the substance of the post at all.

Politics ain’t beanbag.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


 

Time is better spent elsewhere.

bjasper Monday, April 26th at 2:17PM EST (link)

Hi Rinker
Unfortunately, there are 2 or 3 people who have nothing to do but monitor this site with the intent to trash people. Notice it’s always the same few people getting immature with everyone. Our time is better spent at other sites which have the interest of conservatives and Indiana at heart. Redstate is not that site!!

I haven't trashed anyone bjasper.

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 2:20PM EST (link)

All I asked was that people address the substance of the post.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


 
 
 

vital0gy, you are correct, it is your primary.

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 2:02PM EST (link)

So why aren’t you writing revealing diaries about the candidates?

If you think Erick is doing a disservice by providing information to the voters then you should write a counter argument for your candidates in the diaries section.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


It isn't necessarily disagreements

vital0gy Monday, April 26th at 2:14PM EST (link)

I think Coats is wrong for not filing. What rubs me the wrong way is the lopsided view that Erik presents. If there was a similar issue with Stutzman would we see it on the Front Page? I guess I see both Coats and Stutzman as solid conservatives. I thought the purpose of Redstate is to get conservative Republicans elected. I see the Front Page as tearing down one conservative in order to build up another. To be honest, I still haven’t made up my mind on who to cast my vote for in the primary. It would be nice if the Front Page focused on positives/negatives for each of the candidates instead of all positive for one and all negative for another when both are Conservatives.

Sorry vital0gy, we pick sides in primaries.

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 2:18PM EST (link)

And our goal isn’t just to get a conservative in office … our goal is to get the *most* conservative candidate in office.

You are free to highlight any candidate you want in anyway you would like to. You are given that ability just be being a member of this community. It is you who has dropped the ball by not doing so, not Erick.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


On what issue

RINKER Monday, April 26th at 2:22PM EST (link)

On what issue is Stutzman more conservative than Coats?

And if someone is 98% conservative and another candidate is 98.5% conservative, it is okay and reasonable to go after and trash the candidate who is 98% conservative??? Some of us do not agree.

Rinker, if you read Erick's posts instead of erecting strawmen you would know the answer to that all ready. nt

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 2:26PM EST (link)

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


 
 

Agreed on point

vital0gy Monday, April 26th at 2:39PM EST (link)

I agree with the goal of getting the *most* conservative candidate in office. Rasmussen has Coats +21 against Ellsworth with 9 undecided, while Stutzman is +5 against Ellsworth with 16 undecided. I understand that gives Stutzman room to grow as long as the undecideds break his way. However, November is still a long way off and a lot can change. If I had to pick between a conservative candidate that WILL take Indiana back, and one that might…. well, it’s hard to go against what works.

So November is a long time for Stutzman and a lot can change...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 2:43PM EST (link)

But Coats is guaranteed? I hope you see where that line of logic fails.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


I do see the line of logic

vital0gy Monday, April 26th at 3:09PM EST (link)

My point is only that there is more cushion starting out with Coats. It’s healthy to debate the merits of candidates, but that isn’t what’s being here. Its more along the lines of “My guy is awesome” and “The other guy sucks”. If that’s the way the FP feels about Coats then I suspect they won’t be endorsing him if he wins the primary. Its kind of hard to kick a guy in the groin every few days, and then shake his hand when circumstances change against your position.

Nonsense, we endorsed John McCain for president.

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 3:24PM EST (link)

Coats is the one who hasn’t submitted his financial disclosure, how is that Erick’s fault?

Or is it your contention that we should just ignore any possible wrong doing by Coats because he has an “R”next to his name?

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

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Aaron, I agree that Coats is wrong

vital0gy Monday, April 26th at 4:06PM EST (link)

If you look upthread, I said that I agree that Coats is wrong here. What I didn’t agree with is the continual drumbeat of negative press on here in regard to Coats. I’d bet you a Reese’s peanut butter cup that I wouldn’t see the same story on Stutzman if the roles were reversed. I’d wager that I won’t see a single FP article questioning anything that Stutzman does. I’d bet more, but it’s all I’ve got left over from my Easter basket.

If the roles were reversed we would support Coats instead of Stutzman.

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 4:10PM EST (link)

Look, this is a very simple thing … Coats has baggage that is going to be exposed.

It’s either going to happen in the primary when we can do something about it, or it is going to happen in the general when we can’t.

This is the entire point of primary elections.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


Agreed, and thanks

vital0gy Monday, April 26th at 4:25PM EST (link)

I didn’t want to have to give away my last Reese’s anyways :)

You're welcome vital0gy...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 11:36PM EST (link)

I totally would have taken your Reese’s. ;)

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

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^^^ I agree 100% vital0gy

RINKER Monday, April 26th at 2:20PM EST (link)

Coats is a decent conservative. I agree that new blood is needed, though, and if I lived in Indiana, I’d vote for Stutzman. I even watched the GOP debate on C-Span Friday night. While I’m hoping Stutzman wins, he didn’t perform well in the debate, IMO.
When it comes to CONSERVATIVE Republicans, I agree with Ronald Reagan’s 11th Commandment: Thou shalt not speak evil of thy fellow Republican.

Agree with you Rinker.

jmell7 Monday, April 26th at 2:47PM EST (link)

I just don’t see the logic in running down one conservative amongst multiple conservatives in a primary. What does that get us besides depressing turnout come the general because we’ve torn down our nominee?

So, by your logic ...

acat (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 3:51PM EST (link)

.. it’s just fine that the media didn’t do more digging into Obama’s background back when he was a statehouse guy running for Senate?

I mean, the media are liberals, and they failed to tear down a fellow lib.. right?

Seriously, the Dems are already going after Coates over this. Conservative or not, something stinks on ice here, and it’s not Red State.

Mew

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self-portrait

“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein

5 acat. nt

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 4:00PM EST (link)

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


 
 
 
 

I thought the purpose of Redstate is to get conservative Republicans elected.

zzbigreddogzz Monday, April 26th at 2:28PM EST (link)

I thought so too. Eric seems to have changed it to “get people Eric Erickson likes for whatever reason elected”

I already got banned once, but I came back because … well, you tell me. I’m a loser? I’m here to cause trouble? I just plain hate it when the talking wallets (you guys) actually make demands of our candidates instead of being quiet and obeying your betters? Take your pick.

 
 
 
 
 
 

Real conservative needed!

bjasper Monday, April 26th at 12:41PM EST (link)

While I wasn’t planning on visiting RedState until after the primary, I came across a video and link that is relevant to this post. In the spirit of “getting everything out there and let the voters of a party pick” this information is worth your time. This is a revealing interview with Stutzman:

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=FedupHoosier#p/u/0/7YXMDw6qeXM

As I have stated before, Stutzman was the Republican institution choice who was kicked to the curb when they found Coats. Stutzman is merely the other side of the Coats coin.

Also, while I thought Stutzman only took $156,000 in subsidies it turns out he and his father took over $1,000,000!! See the info at this link: http://hoosieraccess.com/blog/2010/04/22/of-farm-subsidies-and-tax-hikes/

Had Redstate taken the time to actually investigate ALL the candidates in this race then the readers would have had the info to make an intelligent choice. As it is we have seen Redstate do all they can to prop up their RINO candidate in order to save face and attempt to preserve any remaining credibility. Redstate would have been miles ahead to have immediately acknowledged they have been mislead by Stutzman and to offer info and support of the real conservatives; Hostettler, Bates or Behney. It appears that Redstate jumped on the bandwagon without really knowing the candidate they decided to support. Even when others attempted to inform readers of the problems with Stutzman, Redstate took an “in your face” attitude and campaigned all the harder for Stutzman.

Now we find ourselves days before and important primary vote, Redstate’s credibility spent and gone and conservatives left twisting in the wind. Take some time and check out the sites of the real conservatives who are running in this race:

http://www.johnhostettler.com/

http://www.richardbehney.com/

http://www.donbatesjr.com/

Unlike Coats and Stutzman history has shown, any of these three men will serve Indiana well.

bjasper, do you intend to return your social security check to the treasury?

RedBeard Monday, April 26th at 1:09PM EST (link)

Or will you cash it?

Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.

No, she's actually going to send it to the

Scope (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 1:42PM EST (link)

Ron Paul Campaign for Liberty.

 
 
 

"We need a law" (shudder)

Phillep Monday, April 26th at 12:56PM EST (link)

People suing to see Obama’s papers were denied based on them not having standing. This needs to change so we can make informed choices. Voters need to be able to demand relevant background documents on candidates.

 

What are the consequences of not filing?

Mayhem (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 1:10PM EST (link)

If there is a filing deadline, then surely there are repercussions (legally) for not meeting it. Why hasn’t the FEC stepped in and done something here?

James Madison, Jim DeMint, Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan… You get the picture.

 

Your one man jihad against Dan Coats is getting old

zzbigreddogzz Monday, April 26th at 2:18PM EST (link)

Does your ego have any checks on it at all? Any?

I remember when you first went apespit on Coats and people rightly criticized you for it. You kept insisting you weren’t attacking Coats, you just thought the NRSC wasn’t thinking straight…or something (your argument never really made sense).

Well, I guess we can get rid of that pretense. You’ve personally attacked him for just about everything under the sun, weight of the evidence or facts be damned. Want to try to charge him with the Kennedy Assassination next?

I already got banned once, but I came back because … well, you tell me. I’m a loser? I’m here to cause trouble? I just plain hate it when the talking wallets (you guys) actually make demands of our candidates instead of being quiet and obeying your betters? Take your pick.

Jihad? Good grief. (nt)

RedBeard Monday, April 26th at 2:53PM EST (link)

Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.

 
 

Despite the less than tactful

aesthete (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 4:21PM EST (link)

and respectful way that others have put it, I, too, am curios as to why you’re so supportive of Stutzmann, and why you despise Coats so much. The headline of this article is (perhaps unintentionally) deceptive, and the many other front-page diaries assume a priori that Coats is not a conservative, and that Stutzmann is conservative. Non-sequiturs about financial disclosure notwithstanding, I would like to see a conservative case for Stutzmann, a conservative case against Coats, or any combination of posts which would give us some insight into your seemingly excessive criticisms of Coats. The criticism which you have received from people who live and vote in Indiana makes this an even greater concern, and I think that your readership would greatly appreciate an explanation.

The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton

Ahh! Typos nt

aesthete (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 4:24PM EST (link)

The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton

 

Check here aesthete...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 4:31PM EST (link)

Here

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


Thanks Aaron

aesthete (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 5:07PM EST (link)

but I’ve already read all of those articles. The fullest explanation given by Erick is that Coats’ resume as a lobbyist, a retread, and an NRSC adoptee are an imaging problem., and that fresh blood in Congress is a benefit. I myself share those impulses in my support of Jim Ward over David Schweikert (AZ-05). However, I keep seeing Erick make reference to conservatives, as if this is a fight that should have national priority for them , and I don’t understand why it should. Like I said, most of the Indiana conservatives have taken Erick to task for this reason, and I’d like to hear Erick’s rebuttal, or more accurately, a comprehensive explanation of what his standards are in a Senate candidate, and why Coats is so poorly living up to them. Attacking Coats with the level of vitriol that is used for criticism of Crist or Bennett does Coats and conservatives a disservice, unless there are reasons that I am unaware of. All that I ask is that Erick clue me in on those reasons, so that I may agree, disagree, or fall somewhere in between, but at least be better informed as to where Erick, a conservative that I respect, is coming from.

The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton

No problem aesthete....

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 5:19PM EST (link)

To me this has been very clear for some time.

Erick and Senator DeMint are attempting to take down the leadership of the party that has tacked ever leftward in their search for electoral success.

In order for this to be a success they have opted to endorse candidates that are anti-establishment Conservatives, rather than RINO’s, Standard issue Republicans, or even just establishment Conservatives such as Coats.

The overall goal is to reform our own party from within so as to not allow it to be destroyed by the current crop of squish leaders.

Quite simply put, we are working to avoid another 40 years in the wilderness.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


 
 
 

I'm confused as to what is misleading about the headline

RedBeard Monday, April 26th at 4:49PM EST (link)

By not filing his disclosure on time, and failing to do so even now, Coats opens himself up to some very legitimate questions. If he’s not hiding anything, why not file?

My best guess, and it’s only a guess, is that Coats wants to stall on releasing info on some not-so-conservative political associations, in hopes of attracting conservative primary voters who might be put off by the revelations. Then, after securing the primary, he hopes the disclosures will actually help attract some Democrat and independent voters, while conservatives will then have no other option but to vote for him in the general election despite the revelations.

Speculation? Of course it is. But it is speculation brought on by Coats’ own actions. Or more accurately by his inactions.

Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.

 
 

"Stutzman's fuzzy fundraising math"

Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 10:15PM EST (link)

I guess they both flubbed their filings.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0410/36357.html

I guess all candidates have flaws. I don’t care about Dan’s problem anymore then I do Marlin’s. All politicians will make mistakes. But the unknown is always more alluring then the known.

I actually think Politico is the one fibbing here S_Y...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, April 26th at 11:33PM EST (link)

Here is what they say today, per your link

Stutzman told POLITICO that he raised $125,000 during the first three months of the year and had about $70,000 in the bank.

That assertion proved to be optimistic, at best, or a fib, at worst: According to Stutzman’s first-quarter filing with the Federal Election Commission, the legislator only took in $78,260 and had a paltry $14,227 on hand.

Here’s what was said in the previous Politico article that your link links to…

Stutzman, a state senator and tea party favorite, told POLITICO he has about $70,000 left in the bank for the five-way GOP primary that’s now just over two weeks away. Stutzman plans to begin spending a significant chunk of that limited war chest Tuesday, going up with ads featuring biographical information and an endorsement from Indiana Right to Life.

Seems to me Politico is spinning their own spin.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat