The dirty little secret about my writing is that it captures my real time thinking on issues. I do not sit down with a plan, map out a long term strategy, and then center my writing around that. I have an idea and I expound upon it. You are free to agree or disagree.
Those times I am viewed as being inconsistent are largely because I am persuadable that I am wrong on something and happy to change my mind. I lay it all out for you all to see, read, and think about whether or not you like it.
That is what you got with this post and the reaction to it by some convinces me I am right. Despite repeated praise for the activists at the activist level, some think I am attacking them and others are bunkering down.
Let’s look at a couple from twitter.
Erick Erickson @ewerickson joins the MSMs & throws #TeaParty under the bus
Were I to throw the tea party under the bus, I’d be throwing myself. I am a self-identified tea party activist.
Then there is southsalem who went off for a while:
True #TeaParty would never presume 2 dictate or tell ppl what issues R important or what to think or do!
You could fool me by some of the leaders. And that is the point.
My objection to the tea party movement has nothing to do with tea party activists as I consider myself one. It has nothing to do with the issues. They are my own.
It has everything to do with branding. The branding has served its purpose. It has brought in a lot of people who never knew others felt the same way. It has gotten people involved in the political movement. But the branding has also keeps people involved in the protests and movement out of the process. It allows self-identified leaders to pretend to lead. It breeds factionalism and keeps some from embracing concerns they share because of what they see — and I don’t mean what the media shows, but what they themselves see.
And it is time to move on to the process. Ecclesiastes 3:1 is right. “To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven.”
And the season of the tea party is sunsetting. It is now time for greater activity in the political process. Again, show up if you want. Go protest. It is healthy for us to have our voices heard. But don’t think that is all you must do.
But more importantly, by continuing to call ourselves “tea party activist” instead of Americans we have made it easy for politicians and others who disagree with us to dismiss us.
Consider this Rasmussen poll, which drives home the point I’m making. “Twenty-four percent (24%) of U.S. voters now say they consider themselves a part of the Tea Party movement. . . . Thirty-five percent (35%) of Mainstream voters view themselves as Tea Party members, while 84% of the Political Class say they have no ties to the movement.”
The tea party movement is a mainstream movement, but only 35% of mainstream voters embrace it. And 84% of politicians can reject it because it is just that “tea party movement.”
The issues the tea party movement protests against and agitates for are foundational principles of the American experience. We let ourselves be dismissed too easily by continuing to be part of the tea party movement instead of being very concerned, individual Americans.
If you go protest, you have my full support, not that you need it. But don’t think you have done all you can or must do. You must move beyond the protest and get into the process.
One word of caution though, contra Ben Smith at the Politico — this is not a Republican movement. This is American with Democrats, Independents, Republicans. My perspective is Republican. But the overall goal is getting America back on the right course. This is bigger than politics, but is a fight that must be waged in the political process.
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JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 3:08PM EST (link)HEART & SOUL of OUR Country! I want the Democrats to bring their party back from the edge of insanity as much as I want the Republican Party to RETURN to its Conservative roots. The TEA Party is as I say a MAJORITY group of Americans who recognize the Socialism of those in power at this time and want to END IT!
WE are NOT all Socialists now and in such those Democrats in power at this moment will all be SWEPT away with NEW either D’s or R’s in the next 6 cycles! Americans will take their Country back
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AMEN
Erick Erickson (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 3:10PM EST (link)and amen.
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This is the pull quote
NoDoze Tuesday, April 13th at 7:21PM EST (link)that makes your position clearer,
“If you go protest, you have my full support, not that you need it. But don’t think you have done all you can or must do. You must move beyond the protest and get into the process.”
That puts it in perspective for me, and I agree.
"Heirs to the American Revolution." Loved that phrase.
penguin2 (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 3:37PM EST (link)If it is not us, then who. I think that is all Erick is saying. We are in this together, but we have to use our energy to effectively make change. The only way that can be done is in the process of government. Starting at the local, state and on through to the Federal. As an activist, and it doesn’t matter the group so much as it matters what one is doing.
As I have become active in my local GOP groups, I have met others who are part of the Tea Party groups as well, but it looks like some are showing up to participate in the process. Erick, I think your words are meant to be helpful advice to keep people focused on how to pool their strengths and use it. There is much truth to the saying, “United we stand, divided we fall.” We have to be united in this desperate quest to wrest back our country from the Socialists/Communists.
This is probably the one time I would actually use a word I normally don’t care for….diversity. We are diverse Americans all seeking to right the American ship. We can only do that if we are pulling the same way with combined strength, not offshoots here and there.
“Heirs to the American Revolution” Yes, I do like the sound of that.
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Dems are off the cliff
azaeroprof (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 3:42PM EST (link)I share your sentiments, Jaded, about wanting the Dems to bring their party “back from the edge of insanity”. Frankly, though, I believe they “jumped the shark” already. If Democrats who believe in saving this country from runaway government and creeping socialism try to do so by changing the Democratic party, they (and we) will waste at least another decade or two with no guarantee of success.
Democrats (& Independents) who share our vision of limited government and maximum liberty have only two options as I see it:
1. Join the Republican party and help us continue to steer it back to the right.
2. Be ineffective and ignored
The phenomenon should be very interesting. The GOP being pulled to the Right by conservative Republicans, and simultaneously being pushed to the Right by conservative former Independents and Democrats.
I agree
misty Tuesday, April 13th at 3:19PM EST (link)I agree, I have been feeling the same way. I went to the first Tea Party in Richmond, VA on last years tax day. I marched on DC on 9/12 and again in Nov. when Michele Baughman called on us. I was sound asleep for years, just voting and trusting our leaders. NO MORE. I am awake, I am involved, I am engaged. I am educating myself on the constitution, the issues and the candidates running for office. I am not supporting the parties, I am giving directly to the candidates. But not just in my state. I now realize how the leaders from other states affect me and my family and so I have taken an interest in supporting the candidates that I think will help move this country back into the correct direction. The Tea Parties are great, I thank GOD for them. Over the year, the numbers have grown even larger. More people are waking up as I did. What the MSM and the left do not get is the Tea Parties are not a ‘political party’, it is a movement made up of mainstream Americans. And the more they trash and try to destroy the movement, the more we grow. And WE THE PEOPLE will not longer pay for them to misrepresent us any longer. I do not need to march any more. It is time to get to work electing the best conservative leaders possible. Time to root out the Rino’s, get rid of the progressives and turn this great country around.
i have moved....
vmo335 (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 6:05PM EST (link)on to the next phase. reading thomas paine, patrick henry’s va. convention speeches, the federalist papers, the constitution, the dec. of I. i delve into RS and read the comments. I know i am not alone, i know that others are right next to me in mutual awareness. since the scott brown moneybomb i am donating directly to conserative candidates all over the country. i have never donated money to politicians, until now. I look forward to the future. the wave is building and approaching the coast. it will make landfall in november.
Something is afoot
Douglas Erley (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 3:31PM EST (link)I’ll tell you, I can feel it. There is something in the air. I don’t know what it will lead to, but everyone, and I mean everyone I talk to is pissed off. There are people like Misty all over the country. Some still in the chrysalis. Many emerging every day. Some soon. Others just in time. They are tired of it all. “Stand by targets” as we used to say in the Marines. What an exciting time. There is a feeling of exhilaration heading into combat. Excitement. Fear of the unknown and the belief you will win, no matter what. I feel that now, at long last.
Exactly, something is afoot
Erick Erickson (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 3:36PM EST (link)And I think we must think beyond tea party protests to capitalize on it.
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Tea Party may be over
Douglas Erley (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 3:42PM EST (link)I think it has served it’s purpose. Time for Phase Two.
Tea Party isn't over
Erick Brockway (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 11:29PM EST (link)It remains the place to meet people, share ideas, establish networking contacts, educate, and be educated. Also to express one’s displeasure and direct it en masse toward our representatives that we hired to work for us and lately ignore us. A mass of angry people is hard to ignore, but a mass of angry voters is impossible.
A tea party rally, while fun, can’t be an end in itself. It needs to go where Erick, Cold Warrior, and others have suggested; to the next level, that being political action. The rally has its place on the route to saving our country, but it’s not the destination.
Election day, that’s the destination.
A rally should showcase candidates, have voting materials, petitions, etc.
Then we go home, we add our new contacts, and share ideas offline.
I’m scatterbrained lately and may not be making sense here, but bottom line for me is we’re off our couches finally and paying attention to the attack on our country from within that’s been going on these many years.
We told them we don’t like it, now we move on to the part where we show them.
We kick them out of office.
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azaeroprof (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 3:46PM EST (link)in water. It has great “electric potential”. If we take it out and “plug” it into the political process (specifically the GOP), it could bring much light. If we leave it in the water, the electrons will continue to seep out until the potential is gone having accomplished nothing.
I think it already has
Douglas Erley (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 4:13PM EST (link)accomplished something, but the time has come to move the game up a notch.
Fine
rightklik (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 5:18PM EST (link)Call them rallies…or whatever.
But keep the excitement and enthusiasm going.People need to feel the energy. Obama generated energy by creating a messianic aura and stirring up irrational exuberance at his rallies. I prefer what we’ve done with the Tea Parties.
But if we “move beyond” the Tea Parties, what will fill the void?
keep the rallies
vmo335 (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 6:10PM EST (link)consider it an identiflying event for the unaware. after they realise they are not alone, and attend their first Tea Party Rallly, they need to be ushered on to phase II/involvement/constitutional education. sort of an American citizen political awakening assembly line.
You are 100% right.
LisaDe (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 3:54PM EST (link)Can you imagine what the poll numbers would read if the question posed was “Do you consider yourself to be a Concerned American?” As opposed to “Do you consider yourself a member of the Tea Party”?
It is time to embrace solidarity, not tea parties.
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katnandu Tuesday, April 13th at 4:47PM EST (link)I don’t think pollers would ever phrase a question that way
You are 100% right.
LisaDe (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 3:54PM EST (link)Can you imagine what the poll numbers would read if the question posed was “Do you consider yourself to be a Concerned American?” As opposed to “Do you consider yourself a member of the Tea Party”?
It is time to embrace solidarity, not tea parties.
Agreed
Douglas Erley (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 4:32PM EST (link)I never really liked the name anyway. Sounds a bit wishy-washy. How bout “Armored Tank Division Party”, or “All Real Americans Love the Sting of Battle Party”
Most liberals
jackbenimble (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 4:33PM EST (link)Most liberals describe themselves as “concerned Americans” too. They will tell you all about social justice, concern for the little guy, etc. Concern is an emotion and liberals are really good at feelings. How are we to tell the concerned Americans who think like us from the other kind?
What good does it do us if 97.5% of American describe themselves as “concerned” but half of them think the way to address their concerns is to impose Marxism? I frankly don’t want to be in solidarity with the Marxists.
Labels are helpful. That’s why we call ourselves conservatives and Republicans. Unfortunately, these lables turn off some people even though they share a large segment of our values. Maybe they are fiscal conservatives but don’t like the social conservative leg of our stool. That is exactly how most independents describe themselves: Fiscally conservative, socially liberal. The Tea Party gives us a way to enlist these partial believers in our cause.
“I repudiate the idea of voting for a Democrat
Enlisting them in our cause
Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 4:46PM EST (link)That’s exactly what Erick is trying to do, get them to DO something for a cause and not just wave signs and mill around angry.
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Have you forgotten Scott Brown
jackbenimble (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 4:59PM EST (link)Have you forgotten Scott Brown, Bart Stupek, NY-23, Marco Rubio, Bob Bennet?
It seems to me that the Tea Party is doing a lot of good for our cause. Without the Tea Party we would still be looking at a 60 Democrat filibuster proof Senate. I seem to remember the Tea Party doing a heck of lot more heavy lifting in Massachussets then the RNC, or the RSCC. And, without the Tea Party getting involved in primaries, we would have Republican leadership feeding us milk-toast RINOs like Christ and Bennet. And my guess is that it will be grass roots voters heavily motivated by participation in the Tea Party movement that put us over the top in many races this coming Fall. A lot of them will be motivated to volunteer.
I hate arguing with you and Eric because you both know a heck of a lot more than me, I respect what you all do and its your website and all but we should be trying to grow the Tea Party, not shrink it.
“I repudiate the idea of voting for a Democrat
Hmm
Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 5:05PM EST (link)We lost in NY-23 because the tea partiers failed to get involved in the GOP and allowed Scuzzy to get the pick.
Stupak voted for Obamacare.
Scott Brown is a case of compromising principle to join with GOP and achieve practical ends, as are the FL and UT primaries.
So yeah, you’re making my point for me. Waving signs and milling around angry does nothing but fail. Engaging in the GOP processes achieves everything.
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Reducing tea parties to "milling around angry" ?
Common_Cents (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 6:12PM EST (link)A little disengenuous, no?
Think of all these newly motivated people as a tremendous resource not to be marginalized, but to be put to work.
They need direction, not condescention.
Tea parties may have saved America’s bacon and need to continue to galvanize and bring out the ‘silent majority’ to report for duty.
Agree that we need to channel all that great energy to additional activism but the parties/protests must continue to keep bringing more and more people into the process.
I see tea parties as the recruiting/PR/prospecting process and then it is up to new leadership to move the new recruits on to more focused advanced activism.
Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from,
behind, the Back Nine.Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.
Erick's trying to give direction
Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 6:18PM EST (link)And he’s just getting guff and being told he’s in cahoots with the Democrats.
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I've just extracted my head
jackbenimble (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 11:08PM EST (link)I’ve just extracted my head from my nether regions and figured out what is going on. This is the time in the election cycle where we are all supposed to get on board and toe the Party line.
I guess I am just and individualist but it never works very well for me when people start telling me what I am supposed to think or do. But this is not my web site so rather than arguing with people with whom I normally agree, I’ll just make a graceful exit and see you all maybe in mid- November, In the mean time I’ll be trying to do my part in my own way and I’ll be routing for the cause. It’s not like I am much of a contributor anyway so I doubt I will be missed.
Just as a parting thought, I think a few Redstaters ought to go back and look at their own posts from a year ago (or even from the Scott Brown election) with respect to the Tea Party movement. The consensus then was that it was that it would be a mistake for the Republican Party to try to co-opt it and it is fairly clear that is the intent of these recent blogs. Personally, I think that previous wisdom was sound.
Good luck! I may look in now and again. Talk to you all in a few months.
“I repudiate the idea of voting for a Democrat
Where's the bunny when we need him? [nt]
Bill S (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 11:14PM EST (link)“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
HappyBunny is snoozing and I'm not waking him up
mbecker908 (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 11:22PM EST (link)for this newly departed bunny turd. He’d be really ticked and a mad bunny is not a HappyBunny.
OTOH, if the scum comes back, I’ll wake him up.
I read your post and then I emailed a contact that I would volunteer to help their campaign
earlgrey (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 5:23PM EST (link)All tea party activists should read Red State. Is that in Obamacare bill?
I considered what Rasmussen had to say
jackbenimble (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 4:23PM EST (link)It was a very interesting poll with mainy statistics that in my view paint the Tea Party Movement as mostly a very positive thing for the conservative movement. It might not be quite so positive for Republicans but that is because Republicans have a bad habit of straying from fiscal conservatism.
Among other things, the Tea Party Movement, which mostly espouses conservative views, has considerably higher favorability with the American people (58%) then the Republican Party. It seems to me that it provides a second communications vehicle for us to reach people with our ideas that are automatically turned off if those same ideas come out of a Republican mouth. Since memories are short, I think we will have a need to reach independent (less politically aware) voters for years or decades to come and that outreach with our ideas will be an ongoing. I don’t believe the Tea Party’s time has come and gone. On the contrary, I think they are just getting started.
I thought this statistic from Rassmussen was particularly interesting: 96% of the political class view the Tea Party Movement unfavorably. That has got to include a lot (most) of Republican politicians. Maybe they would prefer that there not be a group of grass roots fiscal conservatives ready to hold them to account? You seem to be one of the most hold their feet to the fire types of people I know so I am stunned to find you in that 96%. Have you taken a long look in the mirror lately and wondered if perhaps you were moving to the dark side of the force?
It seems to me that the arguments you have made about labeling ourselves as Tea Partiers could be equally made about labeling ourselves as conservatives or Republicans. Should we eliminate those labels too? I don’t really buy it. I hang all sorts of labels (conservative of several flaveros, libertarian, Republican, Tea Partier, Elks, Episcopalian, American, patriot, Wyomingite) on myself and I am proud of them and with respect to politics they help me to find like minded people who give me political strength.
If anything I want the Tea Party lable to grow and become even more powerful. I want weak-kneed spend-thrift Republic politicans to tremble in fear at the idea of crossing us by straying from the conservative plantation and I want Democrats to crap their pants and roll over into a fetal ball or to at least start acting like Republicans-lite.
I have no p[roblem with your idea that now is the time for action in the political process. Clearly that is where elections are ultimately won or lost. But without the Tea Party also participating in their unique way, Scott Brown would be a forgotten memory, and the Democratss would have us bent over a barrel having their way with us. We shouldn’t forget how much power the Tea Partiers bring to us. There is plenty of room for BOTH political process and political protest. The November election will pass and then there will be a two-year period where the Tea Partiers are holding Obama and the Democrats feet to the fire and advancing conservative interest.
“I repudiate the idea of voting for a Democrat
I don't get it
katnandu Tuesday, April 13th at 4:32PM EST (link)What are you doing? You are feeding the narrative you are apparently afraid of. “We have made it easy for politicians and others who disagree with us to dismiss us” If you believe the tea party has been dismissed because it is called a “tea party” you are totally off base. First of all it has been to a great benefit that politicians and others have maligned the tea party. It has exposed them for who they are. They have lied about and outright name called everyday Americans for all to see. They have exposed the bias and outright slander the media has practiced for years. But instead of them doing it to a Republican administration, they have done it to American people. They no longer have ANY credibility. This is a gift the Tea Party has given to the American people that can’t be underestimated. Does this have anything to do with CNN?
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eastbaylarry (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 9:56PM EST (link)nt
2+2=4 dammit!
Not sold on the eventual success of the tea party movement
bauer Tuesday, April 13th at 4:57PM EST (link)Why?
– No move from anger to action
It’s easy to complain and it’s easy to write on the internet. The tea-partiers made a big step in getting people to gather, march, and meet. But turning that initial energy into coordinated action requires people to stick through the initial excitement into the hard slog. That is very, very difficult. Some will stay active, but most will not.
– Splinter
Coordinated action is needed to be effective in a broader movement. But the type of person who is most likely to be a tea party supporter is also a person who is definately not one of the sheep. They think their own thoughts and follow their own direction. Thus, the activists who do get down to work are liable to splinter.
– No well-stated vision
Anti-Obama gets the ball rolling, but a simple alternative platform must be phrased as “What we will do.” not just a statement of “We’re not them”.
– Disdain and opposition from those in power.
The Republican leadership wants the tea-party passion and money, but that’s all. They will not leave quietly. They will fight the tea-party activists (stab them in the back more likely) at every opportunity.
– Wasting time and effort on unproductive issues.
This is huge everywhere in the blogosphere, and seems to infect the tea-party people a bit as well. Simple stated: Only put work into stuff that helps elect your candidate. Everything else is a distraction.
I see all these challenges and I just figure that nothing much will come of the tea parties in 2 years.
I disagree
katnandu Tuesday, April 13th at 5:35PM EST (link)The Tea party has already moved people who were never politically active to attend Town Hall meetings, to contact their representatives, and to look for candidates who share their views. The disdain from those in power has only emboldened people to get involved in the Fall elections. If not for the Tea Party, much of this would not have happened!
Other than...
Bill S (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 10:01PM EST (link)your point on “disdain and opposition”, I agree with you completely. On that other point, I’m not sure it even matters…they have disdain for conservatives no matter what.
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The Tea Party
caboose Tuesday, April 13th at 5:02PM EST (link)is exactly the right name in this time of seige, from the Socialist. We must not let the Democrats, propaganda destroy us. To often in the past, people have been scared out their wits by these radicals and too often, so called supporters have caved. We have awakened to the reality that if we fail to take action, our Country as we know will not survive. The Tea party’s success is scaring the hell out of the Democrat party. The notion that Democrats and other than Conservative and Republicans are the majority of the Tea party movement is ludcrious. The will of the people is paramount and shall not be taken away by name calling and false labels
58% of Mainstream voters have a favorable opinion...
rightklik (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 5:04PM EST (link)Also from Rasmussen:
More noticeably, 96% of the Political Class regard the Tea Party movement unfavorably, while 58% of Mainstream voters have a favorable opinion of the movement.
For some reason, the political class doesn’t like the Tea Party movement. But rank-and-file voters have a favorable opinion. Rank-and-file voters decide who runs this country.
More from Rasmussen:
Twenty-four percent (24%) of U.S. voters now say they consider themselves a part of the Tea Party movement, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. That’s an eight-point increase from 16% a month ago.
Perhaps the time for PROTESTING is fading, but the time for Tea Parties is not. The Tea Party movement gives the average guy/gal a voice. The average guy is more concerned about the future of this country and less concerned about “branding” or what people at CNN think.
Erick:
“But the branding has also keeps people involved in the protests and movement out of the process. It allows self-identified leaders to pretend to lead. It breeds factionalism…”
This statement is confusing, it seems a bit condescending, and I don’t know if the bulk of the evidence supports it.
Please note: I don’t want to come across as a contrarian.
Erick, I greatly appreciate what you’ve accomplished with your efforts, and I thank you for introducing me to great candidates like Nikki Haley on this blog. But I don’t think that “asking activists on the street will leave with you” will yield a net benefit.
I know that the snobs at CNN and MSNBC and NBC and CBS etc, etc want to create the impression that the Tea Party is “descending into a self-parody of infighting, money making, claims of national leadership, protests, unions, federations, amalgamations, etc,” but that’s not what I see when I look at the Tea Party. And that’s not what 58% of Mainstream voters see either.
Moreover, if conservatives are going to take over the GOP and change the direction of the Republican Party, we’re going to have to be ready for some unsightly conflict (or infighting, if that’s what we want to call it).
Conservatives comprise about 40% of the electorate, but most of those people aren’t particularly beautiful, sophisticated or erudite. Let’s encourage them to speak their minds and show their faces anyway.
Changing the direction of the GOP
Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 5:07PM EST (link)That’s Erick’s point: You can’t change the direction of the GOP by waving signs and milling around angry. You have to put down your sign and start going to local party meetings, not tea party meetings.
Become a precinct committeeman. Support conservatives in primaries.
Take off the training wheels.
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555! Only PCs can change the direction of the GOP
ColdWarrior (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 5:32PM EST (link)We need constitutional conservatives on the general election ballots in November.
To achieve that, we need to make sure constitutional conservative Republicans win the Republican primary elections.
To achieve that, we need to evaluate the Republican primary candidates, pick the strongest and best constitutional conservative candidate, and then get out the vote for them in every precinct as, historically, Republican turn out in primary elections is very, very low (in some places fewer than 20 per cent of the Republican voters bother to go to the polls and many, even among conservative Republicans, don’t know which candidate is the best).
To achieve a strong, educated turn out for the best conservative in each Republican primary race, the BEST place to be is within the Republican Party as a precinct committeeman in your precinct. The Party will teach you how to do this. It’s easy and fun.
After the general election, when the internal Republican Party leadership elections take place at the local, county and state level in your state, you will want to be able to vote in those elections to elect better, more conservative Party leaders. It’s easy and fun.
The ONLY way conservative Republicans can vote in those internal Party leadership elections is by becoming a Republican Party precinct committeemen, because ONLY precinct committeemen are eligible to vote in those elections. Becoming a precinct committeeman is easy and being one is fun because it really is “The Most Powerful Political Office in the World.”
Conservatives CAN change the direction of the GOP IF they become precinct committeemen in sufficient numbers. There are sufficient numbers of conservatives who want to “do something” as the tea parties have demonstrated. Now, we need to educate them about basic civics and direct them into the Republican Party to achieve all of the above — so they can REALLY “do something” that is politically relevant.
Thank you.
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azaeroprof (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 5:57PM EST (link)Heh. Me too. It was as if it was planned... ;-) [nt]
Bill S (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 6:05PM EST (link)“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
I've been trained
Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 8:01PM EST (link)I added that bit in because so many times a thread will go like this
- Person says something
– I reply to get active
– ColdWarrior replies to say to be a committeman
I figured I’d save him the trouble.
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Cold Warrior, you are a thorn in my side.
klondike Tuesday, April 13th at 7:53PM EST (link)Your persistent nagging caused me to get involved. First, I find myself a delegate. Next thing I know, I’m a #*$! Precinct Captain. I don’t know what revenge I am going to extract, but for now you are the bane of my existence.
I do not know how to contact you privately, so I’ll have to ask here in the open in Red State: Have you developed a list of questions to ask the candidates that give you a pretty good gauge of whether they are truly conservative? We have one candidate who is a Dem running on the Republican platform, one or two who appear to be merely driven by ego or fortune, and one who abandoned the Republican ticket for Independent., and every single one of them gives the standard conservative talking points. I’m starting to feel a bit radical in expecting just one of them to stray from the talking points just once and suggest something such as, I will work to eliminate the Department of Education because I think school decisions belong at the local level. Or, I will veto any bill that provides funding for Planned Parenthood or the National Endowment for the Arts. Or, I will not allow federal contracts to be awarded to union enterprises because I believe in the free market, and contracts should be awarded based on competitive, free-market rates in the area of the project.
I have less than a month to attend every town hall meeting, meet-and-greet, and debate before I cast my vote. If you have some suggestions as to some very pointed, direct questions that really challenge the candidate, you will be my hero if you would share them. Well, you MAY become my hero after I recover from this latest endeavor you nagged me into.
klondike, I do have a one page questionnaire
ColdWarrior (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 8:44PM EST (link)I use to vet candidates (it’s based on the 2008 Party Platform and only 21 questions) and a “pre-oath of office.” No fillee out the formees, no supportee. Send your e-mail address to me at coldwarrior1978 at gmail dot com and I’ll send you copies later tonight — getting ready to go to my Legislative District committee meeting in a few minutes.
You are my new hero!
Sorry about the thorns and all that.
Thank you.
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Transition...
rightklik (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 5:34PM EST (link)Yes, take off the training wheels…I agree. Get more involved in other ways. Encourage your circle of friends to mobilized for the primaries. That’s what I’ve been preaching: http://www.rightklik.net/2010/04/are-you-ready.html
And that’s what my friends have been preaching:
http://potluckbloggers.wordpress.com/2010/04/12/important-information/
http://rubyslippersblog.blogspot.com/2010/04/58-support-repeal-of-health-care-we.html
http://www.punditandpundette.com/
http://adriennescatholiccorner.blogspot.com/2010/04/important-information.html
But I don’t understand how dampening enthusiasm for Tea Party rallies is going to yield a net benefit.
We need to tap into the emotional energy of conservatives to propel them forward…to inspire them to open up their wallets and to get on the phones and to mobilize.
I think the Tea Parties serve an important part of that purpose.
Where did these
caboose Tuesday, April 13th at 5:22PM EST (link)obvious erroneous % numbers come from. I don’t believe for one moment that these numbers are factual. For those who are suggesting that we capituate and cave into the propagandists, I say that is exactly the wrong thing to do. I remember in the late 50′s and 60′s, war, and rights protest were prevalent throughout the US. No matter what was said to them by others, they continued their protest and even today. This Tea Party movement will not be stopped until we have our Country back!
Doesn't do much for The Cause when
LisaDe (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 5:28PM EST (link)we are now seeing some candidates running as “Tea Party Democrats”.
Not so sure what a Tea Party Democrat is but if the title gets them elected then they sure played the game well.
Also, there are a ton of Conservative voters who would never go out and protest anything. They don’t hold signs and march, even if they were in agreement. In their minds, It puts them in the same barrel with crazy liberal protesters. But what they will do is donate, they will advocate, they will teach their kids, they will go to a town halls and they will stand in line and vote. The tea party protesters might actually be inadvertantly turning off thousands of people who are actually perfectly alligned with them.
Doesn't do much for The Cause when
LisaDe (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 5:28PM EST (link)we are now seeing some candidates running as “Tea Party Democrats”.
Not so sure what a Tea Party Democrat is but if the title gets them elected then they sure played the game well.
Also, there are a ton of Conservative voters who would never go out and protest anything. They don’t hold signs and march, even if they were in agreement. In their minds, It puts them in the same barrel with crazy liberal protesters. But what they will do is donate, they will advocate, they will teach their kids, they will go to a town halls and they will stand in line and vote. The tea party protesters might actually be inadvertantly turning off thousands of people who are actually perfectly alligned with them.
Did you catch this ?
Jonas Parker Tuesday, April 13th at 5:47PM EST (link)(CNN) – House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer admitted Tuesday that the protests and rallies by Tea Party activists across the country are having an impact on lawmakers’ decisions about running for another term.
“Do I think that negative atmosphere that’s been created by the Tea Party and by others certainly goes into the thinking of Members? I think it does. I think you honestly have to point out that it does,” Hoyer told reporters at his weekly pen and pad session in the Capitol.
Did you catch this ?
Jonas Parker Tuesday, April 13th at 5:47PM EST (link)(CNN) – House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer admitted Tuesday that the protests and rallies by Tea Party activists across the country are having an impact on lawmakers’ decisions about running for another term.
“Do I think that negative atmosphere that’s been created by the Tea Party and by others certainly goes into the thinking of Members? I think it does. I think you honestly have to point out that it does,” Hoyer told reporters at his weekly pen and pad session in the Capitol.
Jonas, I did not catch that, and it's good news
ColdWarrior (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 6:03PM EST (link)But imagine if the CNN news report instead had been something along these lines:
(CNN) – House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer admitted Tuesday that the fact that Michael Steele has announced that the Repblican Party has, in one year’s time, gone from half-strenght to full-strength at the grass roots level, having filled up every vacant precinct committeeman slot across the country, overwhelmingly from the “tea party” ranks, is having an impact on lawmakers’ decisions about running for another term.
“Do I think that reinvigoration of the Republican Party at the grass roots level in every precinct in America, that’s been created by the Tea Party and by others certainly goes into the thinking of Members? I think it does. I think you honestly have to point out that it does,” Hoyer told reporters at his weekly pen and pad session in the Capitol.
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I spoofed this kind of thing back in February here:
http://www.redstate.com/coldwarrior/2010/02/12/michael-steeles-urgent-memo-to-the-gop-state-chairmen/
Thank you.
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That's goal #1, Coldwarrior
Jonas Parker Tuesday, April 13th at 7:18PM EST (link)What we’re shooting for !! But no harm in a little Tea Partying along the way. Hope you get some new recruits out of this next round.
Jonas, along with you! See you tomorrow -- turning in
ColdWarrior (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 7:33PM EST (link)my nominating petition with its 15 signatures (only needed 10, but we always get 5 extra to have a cushion) and my certificate of eligibility tonight at our Legislative District committee meeting along with a whole bunch more PCs seeking to get on the ballot, about half for the first time. It took me all of 45 minutes this year to get my 15 signatures (and I forgot — I only needed 14 because I could have signed to nominate myself!). That just meant I got to involve an extra one of my fellow Republicans in my precinct in the process — which is a good thing.
Now, we’re going to target all of the precincts in our Legislative District which have NO precinct committeemen (about two-thirds of them!) and see if we can recruit at least one conservative to become a PC. All they need is ten signatures and they’ll all be running opposed. Unopposed PCs are AUTOMATICALLY elected and don’t even have their names on the ballot. How to identify them? By collecting signatures for J.D. Hayworth — anyone who will vote for J.D. and wants to rid the Party of John McCain is someone who I want as a PC in the Party. If they decline, then we politely move on to the next Republican house.
Ten signatures from your neighborhood — the Party can provide a walking sheet that tells you where the registered Republicans live. Another piece of paper testifying you’re eligible to stand for election (attesting that you’re a registered Republican and live in the precinct, basically). That’s all it takes to get on the ballot, get elected, and then be eligible to vote for the Party leadership here in Arizona.
What conservative Republican WOULDN’T want to do that?
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Do you have a site where it tells us how to become a precinct committeeman
earlgrey (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 8:01PM EST (link)I have contributed locally to the GOP, but can’t find anything on their website to tell me how to become a precinct committeeman. Anybidea what the time commitment is?
earlgrey, yes, I have a website
ColdWarrior (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 8:29PM EST (link)Go here:
www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com
See if your state is listed in the links. If it isn’t, send me an email at coldwarrior1978 at gmail dot com and I’ll try to help you.
Gee, it’s almost like the “powers that be” don’t want any new blood in the party, eh?
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Right about what?
Common_Cents (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 6:03PM EST (link)Sounds like a straw man argument to me. Who is out there advocating that the only thing to do is protest ala Tea Parties and go home?
Tea Parties are a conduit to bring people out of the wood work and galvanize like minded people. Tea parties should continue, not end. They are part of the process and supply line to grow the conservative base. Tea parties are a critical beginning to supply and reinforce recruits so they continue to take additional action that we really need.
As more people come out to the parties they will want to get involved if given more information on how they can take additional action.
Think of it as a continuous process of developing real effective activists, not a discrete finite group that needs to advance and abandon the effective recruitment function tea parties have. There will be some division of labor specialists that keep the parties going getting new recruits, and then there will be others that address the additional actions such as Cold Warrior’s precint project to hit 2nd, 3rd, 4th gear as they progress with taking additional action.
As far as abandoning the tea party label, it shows weakness if the left wing thinks they won by marginalizing the label. Alinsky’s tactics. Ridicule, teabaggers etc… The left is good at phony labels as they soiled the label “liberal” and now put on a new diaper called “progressive” while continuing to soil themselves.
Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from,
behind, the Back Nine.Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.
55555555!!
mdredstater Tuesday, April 13th at 9:22PM EST (link)Absolutely agree here. The Tea Party movement can continue as an ongoing recruitment tool that infuses energy into those new to the political process, that is as long as there is awareness of what to do as a next step.
Rick Santelli had it right over a year ago,
The_Rebel (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 6:06PM EST (link)and still does. He wasn’t advocating protests with people chanting slogans and carrying signs. He was talking about physical action just as those first Patriots did back in 1773. It will take physical PEACEFUL actions to get politicians to see their game is over with the American people. In his famous rant he suggested throwing “derivative securities” into Lake Michigan last July when the Tea Party movement was just getting going.
And Erick, while you can call it a “leaderless movement”, I prefer what Rick Santelli once said, “The Tea Party needs no leader, just passionate citizens and a ballot box”!
ERIC IS A LIBERAL PLANT
gohogs Tuesday, April 13th at 6:42PM EST (link)I Was just reading about some of these people showing up at the tea partys.Just kiddin.Look Eric, I’ve been waiting for this m ovement for 20 years,and you throw cold water on it just when we’re getting reved up.We are all rowing our boats the same direction,so the only thing i have to say is ,SHUT UP AND ROW!!!!!WE ARE WINNING!
1) Learn to spell the name right
Bill S (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 6:44PM EST (link)2) Learn to use punctuation and spacing.
3) I assume your title is just a joke. If not… probably shouldn’t try to sign back on later.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
I WAS KIDDING
gohogs Tuesday, April 13th at 6:57PM EST (link)Except about the shut up and row part.
Wow! Obviously reading comprehension is not the friend
eburke (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 7:13PM EST (link)of a whole bunch of people on this thread.
Those of you piling on Erick might do well to go back and read *all* of his words, not just the one’s that yank your visceral response chain. Which portion of
“Again, show up if you want. Go protest. It is healthy for us to have our voices heard”
is written in unintelligible Klingon escapes me. Nor, as far as I can tell, is the money quote which follows:
“You must move beyond the protest and get into the process”.
Come on, folks. We’re conservatives. We’re the ones that are supposed to be able to use our cognitive reasoning abilities. It’s the left that’s supposed to have illogical, visceral reactions to everything they read and hear.
We’re supposed to be smarter than that.
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discerningconservative (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 7:16PM EST (link)Superb comeback, eburke. Many 5's
TNJim (Diary) Wednesday, April 14th at 12:41AM EST (link)In both posts Erick showed his support for the protests. In both posts he said there is more to do, such as getting involved in your local party establishments.
Reading is fundamental.
In which I have a bone to pick with Mr. Erickson's timing
Wing Zero (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 7:30PM EST (link)Erick,
I heard you on the radio (internet) at work, today. I read your post.
Yes, we need to start pushing candidates,
Yes we need to get involved at the local, state, and national level.
Yes, there comes a time to put down the signs of protest, and pick up the signs for an election.
But I believe you *should* have gone to a Tea Party event, rallied the troops, and made your statement *then and there.* You could have reached the multitudes of Tea Party folk, not just the faithful of RS.
I tend to agree with the sentiment that you have taken the wind out of some sails.
To be blunt, your timing sucked, IMHO.
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One local tea party group doesn't reach the country (nt)
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A nationally televised event in DC does.
Wing Zero (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 9:00PM EST (link)And as Dear Leader of Red State (Erick Akbar!) he gets national attention.
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Erick – I read your earlier post
jmadisonfan Tuesday, April 13th at 8:04PM EST (link)and was surprised by the response to it myself. I understood the thread of your post as a call to further action and not an indictment of the movement itself. That post sort of clarified something that I had been thinking as well, that being involved in the Tea Party movement and “protesting” has given a lot of us the false sense of security that we are doing something – that we are actually involved in the process of fixing what we all know is not right. By protesting in and of itself, the movement is not in the fix it stage, it is trapped in the laying grievances stage. I believe the movement up to this point has succeeded far beyond what any of us would have imagined a year ago when Rick Santelli denounced the administration’s mortgage bailout plan and called for a popular revolt against the ever increasing power of the federal government. It has allowed a vast slice of the public to let the establishment know that we are not at all happy with what they are doing, but I agree with Erick that it’s past time for it to move beyond that phase into true activism. It is what many of us here at Red State have already been doing by getting involved in the process of local politics, supporting good conservative candidates, and letting our elected representatives know that we are watching and will hold them to account for their actions in November and beyond. The problem with the Tea Party movement is not the movement itself, it’s that by continuing to identify as Tea Party activists above being concerned Americans, the movement provides the the MSM and the establishment pols with a convenient whipping boy that is easier to marginalize, denigrate and dismiss.
I don't wish to pile on Erick
gohogs Tuesday, April 13th at 9:18PM EST (link)but what does Erick think tea party people do when they are not protesting? I know m any tea party people that work 10 hours a day, and then go hom e to work another 5 or 6 hours doing exactly what Erick suggests. They have spent hundreds and even thousands of dollars to support conservatives. They give their time like I’ve never seen before. And then we have to read that Erick does’t think that what we are doing is helpful and should not call ourselves tea partyers anymore. Sorry, the press will be disappointed because we are not going anywhere.We will fight to the very end no m atter what they call us or who is on our side. I was just hoping that Erick would see that we have come to far to turn back now.
Erick though I would ask you to think about the protests this way...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Wednesday, April 14th at 6:15AM EST (link)The TEA Party people NEED those protests like alcoholics need AA Meetings, it is the sense of community and fellowship, like minded people deciding what they can do in their communities. It is true that NOT everyone can become a Committeeperson but is it TRUE that EVERYONE can knock on doors and make phone calls and GATHER together in a moment for INSPIRATION, quite like Church
I get why the majority who are coming here are doing so with “anger” it is because they feel like you are raining on their Church services and ruining their best clothes. If you have ever been to one of the protests you would know that they make the “average” person FEEL STRONGER because there is STRENGTH in numbers and they don’t feel alone or “silenced”.
So for those reasons they are a GREAT thing but for the body politic those same people have got to get the Congressional and if there is one a Senatorial candidate who is Conservative and HELP THEM GO TO DC!
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Yes, Jaded. It is the strength in numbers and connecting....
penguin2 (Diary) Wednesday, April 14th at 7:22AM EST (link)that helps so much. I’ve thought about this overnight, and I think we can/should do both. You and I were at the 9/12 March together, we were strengthened by the experience, so were all of those other folks crowded in like sardines on the Metro and doing the March. We were passionate, yet peaceful. I believe that many were able to take that experience and go home and become involved and active in their local affairs. I have met local Tea Party folks at GOP meetings I attend.
While the protests of this past year did not stop the HC bill, I believe it slowed it down enough to get more people involved as people were educated to the contents. There is also no doubt in my mind, that some of the Congress Critters are choosing to spend more time with their families (as Moe would say) because of the activists protesting.
Having a visual and physical connection with people is important for our cause. EE is encouraging folks to make sure they are getting involved in the process, to bring about the change we need, or at least helping folks realize the next logical step to take for their activism. We need both, and for those that can do it that way, great. For those that can only do one, that is okay too. We take what the people can give in the way they can. Just their awareness is a plus. If we get nothing else from an individual, we must get their vote come November.
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You are the PERFECT example Penquin....
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Wednesday, April 14th at 7:59AM EST (link)of how a TEA Party protest can bring about inside political ACTIVISM
One day a year ago you were a Redstater who met up with another Redstater at a TEA Party protest and became part of the solution by becoming a GOP “insider”. I don’t believe that would have happened WITHOUT the spirit and excitement your heart felt at the protest with the added plus of knowing you were NOT alone
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