The White House Phone Rang at 3 a.m.


Remember back during the 2008 campaign Hillary Clinton ran that ad asking who you’d want to be in the White House when the “3 a.m. phone call” came?

3 hours after midnight Eastern time this past Saturday, that 3 a.m. phone call came. The President of Poland, his wife, major government and military leaders, and others all died in a horrible plane crash in Russia.

In Europe, the rumor is rampant, without any evidence, that Vladimir Putin was behind it. The confirmed story is that the Russian military repeatedly tried to persuade the Polish pilot to divert his craft due to zero visibility. The pilot, given the ceremony the Polish delegation was headed to, which commemorated the slaughter of thousands of Poles by the Soviets in World War II, refused. The plane hit trees on landing and all died.

CNN has updated their story repeated. When I looked at it at 9:46 a.m. ET on Saturday morning, something very odd stood out.

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown had released a statement.

French President NIcholas Sarkozy had released a statement.

An American Undersecretary of State for Public Affairs had released a statement.

Sometime after that the White House released its statement (note: I’m told in an email the statement was actually released earlier, but still after sunrise). The White House blog had nothing at all until 12:48 p.m. ET.

This shouldn’t be a partisan point. I am genuinely curious. Why the delay? Did the President sleep through the 3 a.m. phone call? If you think it is unfair to ask, just imagine if it were George W. Bush.


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3 a.m.?

jcincy Sunday, April 11th at 9:52PM EST (link)

Sleeping or smoking a cigarette.

“Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation, to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.” — John Jay

Sleeping, smoking a cigarette or ...

txharleyman Monday, April 12th at 10:27AM EST (link)

,,,, playing a little midnight basketball.

Hey, as scary and overbearing as Michelle is, maybe B’Ho had his buddy Tiger bring some of his “friends” over for 3 am social hour. Can you imagine how many hookers would give up a night’s pay in “service” to their country?

Just sayin’

common sense

ilia Friday, April 16th at 3:20PM EST (link)

Hello Erick,

The reason the US statement was released a few hours later than the British/French is because they had the advantage of being 5 hours ahead.

Regards,
Common Sense

 
 
 

Interesting...

Cat Corben (Diary) Sunday, April 11th at 9:57PM EST (link)

I thought the same thing when I read the story. Where were Obama’s condolences? But, then again, we knew what he thought about Poland when he ended the missile shield program[ for Putin]. Will be very interesting to watch this play out, won’t it.

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Exactly. Poland, like Great Britain and Israel

throwback59 Sunday, April 11th at 10:06PM EST (link)

is on the Obama black list. Britain, of course, was an imperialist power, Israel “oppresses” the palestinians, but what did the Poles do?
Thet stood up to the Soviets, Pope John Paul along with Ronald Reagan helped bring down that system. Obama has a long memory.

 
 

Barack Obama is no Ronald Reagan.

barrypopik (Diary) Sunday, April 11th at 10:03PM EST (link)

FWIW, I reported it here on Red State immediately.

Ronald Reagan often spoke of Poland and supported Lech Walesa’s efforts. It was the lynchpin that provided freedom for Eastern Europe.Reagan wouldn’t have wasted a moment in supporting Poland.

I visited Eastern Europe around 2000, and you could see the businesses and tourism and freedom that were celebrated all over. It was like a new life had been granted to the region.

The United States could have offered crash inspectors, if Poland wants help in determining a fair and honest assessment of the airline crash.

A true president would have interrupted his basketball game and invited the Polish ambassador to the White House.

It’s a dark time to be a friend and ally of the United States under this president.

 

Really?

rbc Sunday, April 11th at 10:06PM EST (link)

It took George Bush 6 days to release a statement on Richard Reid. If Obama takes a few hours to make sure a press release doesn’t have any typos, that doesn’t bother me too much. Let’s beat up Obama for things he does wrong that matter.

What world power was Richard Reid

Christine (Diary) Sunday, April 11th at 10:17PM EST (link)

president of? This is news to me.

The primary process is FLAWED. Two states should not decide our candidate.

“I would be a poor Commander in Chief”
– Barack Obama, July 3 2008

You got me

rbc Sunday, April 11th at 10:21PM EST (link)

I think my point was that someone trying to blow up a plane full of people is also important news, and Erick asked in his original post to think about President Bush. I was trying to equate a delay in response (6 days versus a few hours) based on simply the level of significance of the issue, but you are right that one is about a political figure and one is not.

A "political figure?"

merryj1 Sunday, April 11th at 11:53PM EST (link)

Poland’s top government AND military officials were on that plane. An analogy would be a US President, Vice-President, Speaker of the House, a significant number of Cabinet members, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and a handful of leading strategists. A statement of shock and sorrow in this instance is a bit more important than a press release about a bumbling terrorist who couldn’t figure out how to set his shoelaces on fire.

 
 
 
 

3 a.m.

bohemond Sunday, April 11th at 10:10PM EST (link)

I would be careful about jumping to conclusion based on the date of a white house blog post. Here is a story from 9:43 AM ET that contains Obama’s statement.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/91449-obama-offers-condolences-on-polish-tragedy

i said it too

proudgop (Diary) Sunday, April 11th at 10:12PM EST (link)

and I will also ask why just written statement? He could of easily had statement on camera

thanks for the facts, bohemond

rbc Sunday, April 11th at 10:16PM EST (link)

So it looks like Obama had already released his statement when you were looking at that CNN piece, Erick! Maybe CNN was dissing Obama by not including it?

 
 

Is this really a 3am emergency?

cabanon Sunday, April 11th at 11:26PM EST (link)

First of all, it seems like Obama got a statement out fairly quick but this wasn’t particularly the type of 3am emergency I was thinking of when those ads ran. Its definitely a tragedy and an emergency for Poland but nothing that really required immediate action by the U.S. there was nothing the U.S. could do to divert the disaster or even mitigate the aftermath.

So this led me to another question. Who makes the 3am phone call to the President? and Who decides what incidents require waking the President up? Whats the criteria?

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

To the last question

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Monday, April 12th at 12:33AM EST (link)

It would be the WH Chief of Staff who would “make that call”. That would be Rahmbo “Dead Fish” Emanuel.

Most likely there are 4 or 5 that could “make that call” regarding various national emergencies or events worthy of waking up the president. SecState, SecDef, First Lady, Vice President.

In a case like this — just like the tsunami that killed 250,000 people, or the Haiti earthquake — it demands the president be woken up, and frankly it demands a statement FROM THE PRESIDENT by 7am, whether or not it’s delivered in a presser or on the WH website.

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Thanks for the info

cabanon Monday, April 12th at 2:36PM EST (link)

Still I wonder what the criteria is, I suppose each person makes their own judgment maybe.

I don’t see the comparison to the Tsunami and Haiti, the accidental death of the leader of a foreign nation is tragic but is not nearly on the same magnitude. If it had set about spiraling chaos in Poland that jeopardized their entire system of government then perhaps but that was hardly the case here, there was a smooth transition of power.

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

Difference of opinion

duke90 Monday, April 12th at 4:15PM EST (link)

I think the plane crash wiping out political and military leadership of a European ally is more politically significant than either the tsunami or the Haitian earthquake.

All you need to do is issue boilerplate sympathy and get the aid machine going on a natural disaster. Something of this nature requires much more careful deliberation and investigation. There all sorts of things to consider, the most important being to investigate if there was any foul play.

At this point it is pretty clear every other world leader of note believes we are led by a milquetoast. We were much better off when we had a President with the grudging respect of other leaders and scorn of their populace. Now the common man likes our leader, but the decision makers neither trust not respect him. I’m sure the MSM will get on this any minute now. (crickets)

The discussion though is all about

cabanon Monday, April 12th at 5:37PM EST (link)

issuing a statement, not about what action was taken or is being taken behind the scenes or even the content of that statement. Thats why this post is starting to seem sort of silly now.

But for Haiti its not just “boilerplate sympathy and get the aid machine going” There are way more questions, Is their government stable? Do we send troops? Do we have to set up a base? Divert aircraft carriers? Will we be seeing a wave of refugees? Can we actually afford any of that?

With the Polish plane crash, its not our job to investigate, I mean I’m sure we’ll reach out to our intel network but beyond that what else would we do?

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

How about assuring an ally that we will not allow history to repeat itself

JSobieski (Diary) Monday, April 12th at 11:08PM EST (link)

The “historical coincidences” of the tragedy coupled with understandable but unfortunate and undesired prominent role of the Russian government in addressing the fallout gives many people the impression of “this is in the Russian sphere of influence, so its not a big deal to us”.

This may not be a fair interpretation, but I assure you that many in Poland have it. Poland has been betrayed many times, and by people with far more character than Obama.

Think about how Reagan reacted to the shuttle disaster, and think about how a Reagan could have done some good here.

Obama, as we all know, is no Reagan, and is in fact the anti-Reagan.

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Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

What exactly are you talking about?

cabanon Tuesday, April 13th at 1:39AM EST (link)

The plane crashed in Russia, so of course they are going to play a prominent role. I think you are reading waaaay too much into this.

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

You are not looking at this in the way that many Poles look at it

JSobieski (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 2:08AM EST (link)

and yes, Reagan would have handled it differently.

The historical analogy you are not thinking about is the fact that both the US and the UK pretty much screwed the Polish Government In Exile (based in London) throughout WWII.

They used the Poles to fight all over the place, while consistently selling them out to Stalin bit by bit during the war, This was when Stalin was begging for a Western front, so it was not an issue of “What to you expect us to do, fight the Soviets?”

Check out books like “I saw Poland Betrayed” or “Rising: ’44″ by Davies. Churchill and FDR both lied to the Poles on a consisting and more meaningful basis throughout the war.

“Rising: ’44″ is enough to make a grown man cry. I drank myself to sleep several nights reading that book.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

If you ever read any book about Poland in WWII, read this book!

JSobieski (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 2:18AM EST (link)

http://www.amazon.com/Rising-44-Battle-Norman-Davies/dp/0670032840

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

 

I'm not sure you're looking at it like many Poles either

cabanon Tuesday, April 13th at 4:25PM EST (link)

WWII was 65 years ago, most Poles have no memory of those events except from history books. Its a whole new generation without as much of the WWII or Cold War fear.

Poland’s foreign minister seems optimistic
:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/13/world/europe/13poland.html

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

Most Poles do not have a personal memory of it

JSobieski (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 11:16PM EST (link)

but that does not mean that they are not impacted by it.

Make no mistake, Poland is a country that very much knows and cares about its history. You are talking about a country that has had only about 40 years of independence in the past couple of centuries.

If you got beat up by your neighbors for 300 years, you would be sensitive on this issue as well. The fact that government officials for the most part conducting themselves in a professional/diplomatic manner (as they should) doesn’t refute the thoughts of the population at large.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

I think you're opinion on this is wrong

cabanon Wednesday, April 14th at 1:47AM EST (link)

Tragedies bring people and Nations together. After the disaster in Haiti, Cuba and the U.S. actually had a meeting to discuss relief efforts, we broke off diplomatic relations with them over 50 years ago, yet there we were talking with them. Cuba even opened up its airspace to allow U.S. planes to pass and opened it hospitals for the U.S. to bring victims to. Is it going to solve all our issues with them? No. Is it a small step? Sure.

I’ll remain optimistic.

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

Cubans and Americans have a long history of friendship

JSobieski (Diary) Wednesday, April 14th at 7:47AM EST (link)

Poland and Russia have quite the opposite.

Tragedies that bring out memories of past atrocities committed by one party against another are NOT analogous to natural disasters.

Your optimism sounds a lot like Obama, no offense.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

Friendship? Except for that parts about them

cabanon Wednesday, April 14th at 10:21AM EST (link)

parking Soviet missiles 90 miles off our coast in an effort to see the U.S. annihilated under a mushroom cloud or perhaps our attempts to assassinate their leader and overthrow their government.

From where I stand I see no optimism from Obama, not sure why you think he is.

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

Oh, lets see . .. .

JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, April 15th at 1:45PM EST (link)

Cubans risk life and limb to escape to the US
Poles risked life and limb to get as far away from Russia as possible

America, the place that Cuban exiles chose to live, have families, start businesses, etc.
Russial, the place that Poles try like hell to get out of so they can live, have families, star businesses, etc.

Cuba was an a popular American tourist destination before Castro, and will become so again. If Poles go east on a vacation, it is to visit Lithuania, definitely NOT Russia.

Russia spent centuries (since before the founding of the US) trying to stifle the language, culture, religion, and national identity of Poland.

So yeah, you must be right, Poles and Russians will be singing kumbaya in hope and honesty walking together in the 21st century /sarcasm off.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

Russia has a Polish population

cabanon Thursday, April 15th at 10:14PM EST (link)

Are they being held against their will? No.

Its clear you don’t like Russia, not all Poles share your position.

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

I am referring to the population in Poland

JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, April 15th at 11:32PM EST (link)

and my dislike is pretty much focused on the government of Russia, not its people.

One of the common bonds I have with the various Russians in my social circle is a dislike of the Russian government.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

I guess I didn't understand...

cabanon Friday, April 16th at 12:35AM EST (link)

your comments like “Poles risked life and limb to get as far away from Russia as possible” and “Russia, the place that Poles try like hell to get out of so they can live, have families, star businesses, etc.” made it sound as if Poles wanted nothing to do with Russia which isn’t really true at all for the population of Poles actually living in Russia.

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

The NYT publishes all sorts of "kumbaya" articles

JSobieski (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 11:19PM EST (link)

that have absolutely no basis in reality.

I have no doubt that many Russians are sympathetic on this issue, and that most Poles just want peace. However, this tragic event will not bring the two countries closer together.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Seems like Obama was up early and on the phone

wannabeanncoulter Monday, April 12th at 10:03AM EST (link)

Obama said he had spoken with Prime Minister Donald Tusk shortly after the tragedy.

Via The Hill link.

Unless of course he’s lying.

I do think anyone named B. Hussein Obama should avoid using “hijack” and “religion” in the same sentence. — Ann Coulter

 
 

He was having his fact checker staff to see

Tbone (Diary) Sunday, April 11th at 10:24PM EST (link)

if Poland was one of our 57 states.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

and if they had signed the non-proliferation

throwback59 Sunday, April 11th at 10:28PM EST (link)

treaty.

 
 

SOP in the Obama WH

tjexcite (Diary) Sunday, April 11th at 10:30PM EST (link)

I was listen to the speech George W Bush gave after Columbia was lost. Even though Obama is a great reader of a teleprompter he would never instill the heartache and reverence that W could. I tried to think of a speech the Obama could do for the President of Poland in the way Bush did and it is hard. Something like this needs more than a simple press release it needs camera time even if just to read the release. It would be something like this.

Michelle and I are sadden by the lose of President of Poland Lech Kaczynski, his wife and many Polish government officials. The American people stand with the Polish people in their time sorrow and of healing and look forward to working with the new President and great people of Poland. I have talk to the acting President Komorowski, Polish Prime Minister Tusk, Russia President Medvedev and Prime Minister Putin to show American support and have alerted the NTSB and the department of transportation to help the investigation.

When you do things right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything at all

 

SOP in the Obama WH

tjexcite (Diary) Sunday, April 11th at 10:30PM EST (link)

I was listen to the speech George W Bush gave after Columbia was lost. Even though Obama is a great reader of a teleprompter he would never instill the heartache and reverence that W could. I tried to think of a speech the Obama could do for the President of Poland in the way Bush did and it is hard. Something like this needs more than a simple press release it needs camera time even if just to read the release. It would be something like this.

Michelle and I are sadden by the lose of President of Poland Lech Kaczynski, his wife and many Polish government officials. The American people stand with the Polish people in their time sorrow and of healing and look forward to working with the new President and great people of Poland. I have talk to the acting President Komorowski, Polish Prime Minister Tusk, Russia President Medvedev and Prime Minister Putin to show American support and have alerted the NTSB and the department of transportation to help the investigation.

When you do things right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything at all

 

It was five hours later in UK

ashland_avenue (Diary) Sunday, April 11th at 10:58PM EST (link)

To be fair all around, it was five hours later in UK and France; they were already awake.

The important thing was the response, which was more or less appropriate.

Much as I generally agree with you, this is not a significant issue one way or another.

and 6 hours in France....

audax (Diary) Monday, April 12th at 12:45AM EST (link)

nt

Audeamus pro audere est facere

 
 

I wonder if there is a connection...

Stephen Halsey (Diary) Sunday, April 11th at 11:02PM EST (link)

…..between this and ObaMao’s sudden ditching of the WH press corps on Saturday morning. It appears that there is no clear evidence that he actually attended his girl’s soccer game.

The whole chain of events certainly you go hmmmmm…..

Hit hard. Hit fast. Hit often.

http://twitter.com/stephen_halsey

 

Obama is a cretin and a scumbag

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Monday, April 12th at 12:29AM EST (link)

This is just reason 3,954 to despise him and welcome the end of his regime Jan 20, 2013.

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

 

Can't a guy just eat his waffles? -nt

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Monday, April 12th at 12:35AM EST (link)

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

 

After ditching the missle defense bases

robobbob Monday, April 12th at 8:05AM EST (link)

that would have all but guaranteed Polish security and independance for decades, why would he care one once what happens to anyone who tries to defend and safeguard their country? Maybe he’ll send an iPod with a touching message to the bereaved. Unless this story has legs, then I’m sure the teleprompter will give him a real emotional eulogy to give as world healer in chief.

 

mia?

lynnej723 Monday, April 12th at 12:22PM EST (link)

Sat morning was when Potus succeeded in slipping out without the press…he had a busy morning.
I agree with Stephen. Could be an innocent explanation, but put it all together and it doesn’t paint a pretty picture.
That is one sign of immaturity/self-centeredness: the inability to see how your actions are appearing to others. And specifically, the inability to even have it cross your mind that your actions stick out like a sore thumb in relation to the observer’s circle of everyday interactions. (and,I might add, becoming annoyed and even outraged that others could draw such an opinion from your actions)

 

Begging for Utopia

wayneepalmer Monday, April 12th at 3:42PM EST (link)

There is a horrible truth to EVERYTHING that has happened vis-a-vis Red Barry and the World.

That truth is that Barry has gone out to the world begging (probably on bended knee) for the once great Socialist Powers to join him in creating the Socialist Utopia – and it has fallen on either deaf ears or those who will use his stupidity to further their own nationalist goals.

Most of the Socialist countries have gone over to Nationalist dictatorships that are trying to manage their way into controlled Capitalism without internal revolutions.

None of them want to return to the sort of insane communist societies that finally started to revolt against their miserable lives (after seeing how the West lived under freedom) and they have been trying to ride the tiger into being on top of their nations futures.

Now here’s Obama and all of ideological idiots who’ve so dreamed at creating the Socialist Utopia crying out to the dictators “no wait Comrades, we’ve killed America, we are good Socialists, we are ready to worship you!!!”

Other than them being well and willing to use Barry’s stupidity to steal market share, wealth, and power over their neighbors (and their resources) – they are having none of him and his stupid Utopia.

I suspect pretty soon now that douche bag boy is going to decide that the only way to bring them back onto the reservation is to show them the wonders of Neo-Stalinism and how an utterly crushed and oppressed society is good for the cause.

True peace between two enemies has only ever been acheived when one side has utterly defeated the other…if you doubt this truth visit Nagasaki sometime.

 

Putin

thebelle Monday, April 12th at 4:15PM EST (link)

A horrible accident? When I heard this I wondered.

Obama–who ares.

 

The real deal.

chabsentia Monday, April 12th at 4:30PM EST (link)

What is worrisome here is that a person would compare Reid to a situation in the U.S. where the President, Vice President, Speaker of the House and the Presidents Cabinet as well as the head of the Joint chiefs of Staff and the top Admirals and Generals that are the head of our respective Military services that were all involved in such a tragedy. This demostrates that people are either clueless as to interpretations and analyzing things in fair comparisons or they have an agenda.Then you have a President who has stated in Public several times that the U.S.Constitution is ” flawed because it doesnt provide enough assistance to the disadvantaged”. This means to me that this Potus sees the U.S. Constitution as a means of wealth redistribution enstead of enforcing equal opportunity. Both the Republicans and the Democrats have been tramplong on the Constitution for some time and the above people keep voting at least 90% of the incumbents back to offoce and a president of such views.

When the people become so gullible ,misinformed and uninformed that they allow such a situation to exist then we are doomed and whether or not a statement gets out in a certain time is basically irreve,\lant especailly when this Potus is warming up tp our enemies and dissing our friends. Israel is our only ally in the Mifddle East and this Potus doesnt seem to get it.His approval in Israel is only 4%. Look it up.How many Jewish voters voted for this Potus and got a knive in the back. These are your problems. A gullible, misinformed and uninformed electorate.

 

conference call

simplyright4me Monday, April 12th at 7:16PM EST (link)

Obama probably had a hard time getting Stern and Soros on a conference call.

 

No A Hat Trick is Not A Coincidence

cactusjack Monday, April 12th at 10:34PM EST (link)

A sad tale of three erstwhile close, but now grievously offended, major allies. In chronological order. First, the Israelis: before he was even sworn in, the Israeli antennae were twitching & had calculated that BHusseinO was going to be bad news for them. Standing wary distance they have not been harmed too much. Next came the grievous, hurtful offense to the British with the idiotic offer to mediate that Hillary made in Argentina concerning the Falklands. Our press didn’t even bother to report it but I monitored major opinion sources in the UK at the time, believe me our true friends in the land of Churchill, were shaken to the core over this shabby treatment (partly their own fault thinking Obama was going to be something special for Europe). Lastly, Poland poignantly shunned, as she has been so many times before, by a major power who could have/should have helped but cruelly has changed course without consulting them. Obama’s diplomatic hat trick from hell is no accident, it is just what it appears to be happening, and right in front of our eyes.
Obama is a radical. Folks, we have Third World- agitator foreign policy in place now. Chavez and Castro must truly be feeling upstaged and at a loss as to what attention grabbing stunt to pull next since OBH seems always a step ahead of them. Meanwhile we have about run out of maintaining any deep and faithful alliances left (UK-Israel-Poland), whose nations’ soldiers and ours have, by the way, often died in nasty ditches together – for freedom – all over this world.

Maybe the Philippines? Look out Manila. Then “B” lister allies Columbia, Panama, Turkey, etc., you are next (!) for the Obama treatment. As far as being treated well by the US, you’re better off being Yemen than Australia today. Someone please wake us up from this awful dream.

Time for everyone to grow up

JSobieski (Diary) Monday, April 12th at 11:02PM EST (link)

I am a big fan of the UK, Israel, and Poland. It should also go without saying that I truly do love the US and not a day goes by where I don’t appreciate (for at least a few seconds) the blessings of being an American.

That being said, the US voted in Obama and the other 3 nations would have voted Obama into office if they could have. Not saying that the margins wouldn’t have been higher in places like France, but Obama is truly a world wide koolaid epidemic and places like Poland and Israel should have known better. American voters hoodwinked by Obama were in many instances, less gullible than the population of other otherwise responsible nations.

We have a global crisis that is not merely financial, but of fundamental responsibility in the Western world. The challenges of true self-government in accordance with the principles of freedom and equal opportunity cannot be met by populations unwilling to be cognizant of such concepts and to care about them.

The world needs to grow up, and fast. Despite Obama’s behavior, I think that the populations of the US, UK, Israel, and Poland are waking up to the reality of what we face and will be the better for. I only hope that the rest of the world can follow suit and that we can do so in time.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

 
 

Next Up!

alvnjms Wednesday, April 14th at 4:08AM EST (link)

Erickson:
Perhaps you’ve never been in a band, but the headliner plays last.

Cactus Jack:
If Europe wants our respect, let NATO commit troops to Afghanistan and Iraq in a meaningful way. I find Americans dying to keep Dutch filmmakers and London buses safe abhorrent.

I think poor people ‘pop out’ babies. And that this is *bad*.

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