Again. When Will Politicians Understand Their Bounds?


The folks at My Food. My Choice bring us word tonight of another instance of politicians not knowing the limits of government.

New York Assemblyman Felix Ortiz (D-Brooklyn) wants to ban the use of salt in preparation of restaurant cooking.

You know salt right? Sodium Chloride? It’s one of the tastes our tongue can detect and it helps bring out other flavors? Yeah, that one — the one that brought us the word “salad”, which came from the Roman Empire habit of putting salt on leafy vegetables.

What an idiot.

Media Matters and the leftist crowd out there took me on last year when I asked, in relation to a report from Washington State that people were crossing state lines to buy dishwasher detergent after Washington State banned phosphates, “at what point do people revolt?”

They tried to make it out as a lunatic question to ask, but more and more people are getting really hacked off by the small burdens imposed on them by out of touch government. The accumulation of small things — the tyranny of small things — will be what decent and calm people eventually blow up over.

At what point do people go back to tarring and feathering politicians? It is stupid little things like this that will do it. Remember, the Brits thought the Stamp Act was a rather innocuous piece of legislation too.

At least this hasn’t been put into law. We can hope it stays that way.


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No salt

wales Thursday, March 11th at 10:09AM EST (link)

We need salt…

If they ban salt… prepare for goiters being the new human appendage…

Actually you just need iodine

JHancock (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 10:40PM EST (link)

To make Thyroid hormone and prevent goiter and cretinism. I can envision Dems trying to add this to your coffee so you can have a low salt day….or just taxing the he!! out of salt

Yeah…they will probably just tax…that’s all the left is good for!!

 
 

Individually and corporately,

Locked and Loaded (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 10:16AM EST (link)

it is time for active and sustained disobedience – especially corporately, as individually it is happening, but corporately, it will be noticed and felt, and it will bring about the push-comes-to-shove that will cause the masses to rally and act.

When Will The People Revolt?

Ausonius (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 11:16AM EST (link)

To paraphrase a famous statement:

When they took away the salt, I did nothing, because I did not use salt.

When they took away the sugar, I did nothing, because I did not use sugar.

When they took away the trans-fat, I did nothing, because I did not use trans-fat.

There have been times when the people did not revolt, because the loss of freedom had been subtle enough, and incremental enough, that it was too late.

We can only hope that the Nanny-State Nimrods will NOT be subtle and incremental, and that they will instead catalyze a reaction against their micromanaging grabs for power over every aspect of our lives.

Ausonius: 310-395 A.D. Teacher, Poet, Consul, General, Farmer.

Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.

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When Will The People Revolt?

Ausonius (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 11:16AM EST (link)

To paraphrase a famous statement:

When they took away the salt, I did nothing, because I did not use salt.

When they took away the sugar, I did nothing, because I did not use sugar.

When they took away the trans-fat, I did nothing, because I did not use trans-fat.

There have been times when the people did not revolt, because the loss of freedom had been subtle enough, and incremental enough, that it was too late.

We can only hope that the Nanny-State Nimrods will NOT be subtle and incremental, and that they will instead catalyze a reaction against their micromanaging grabs for power over every aspect of our lives.

Ausonius: 310-395 A.D. Teacher, Poet, Consul, General, Farmer.

Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.

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I'm ready to revolt any time

JHancock (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 10:42PM EST (link)

Just give me a military faction big enough to be trouble and a state or two who say no-more!! I’ll be there to lend a hand!!

 
 
 

Ortiz is an idiot....Brooklyn deserves better

fpete13527 (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 10:31AM EST (link)

Check out his video encouraging illegals to fill out their census.
http://bit.ly/bZnYTw

Ortiz is a poor representative. Brooklyn has great people living there…Ortiz is not one of them.

 

Judge Napolitano

GJ Merits (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 10:36AM EST (link)

Talks about secession and nullification in a 10 mintue interview. If you are at the point where tar and feathering goes from a figurative descriptive to an actual desire (Erick is being tongue-in-cheek – well, sort of), then it is time to look for a non-violent way to take back your rights.

Erick is very correct in asking the rather uncomfortable question “At what point do people revolt”. There are to kinds of revolt – violent and non-violent. See “Precariously We Stand: On The Edge Of Revolt – A Thoughtful Appraisal Concerning The Possibility Of Violent Revolution In America.” – http://tinyurl.com/l2k3bq. I will post this here at Redstate as well.

As Obama likes to say, let me be clear, IF enough states nullify a law then by God it cannot be enforced. So the goal is to use the passion to drive local politics to nullify the entire ObamaCare law (not just the mandate, but the taxes, the bureaucracy – all of it. If your state legislature or governor is not on board – recall them. A member of Congress at the federal level is beyond your power to recall, but your state officials are not. Start taking action now.

While I think secession is a way to far for my tastes and not at all necessary to put the federal government in its rightful place, Napolitano’s statement that if enough states nullify a law then it cannot be enforeced is not. I have always been an advocate of nullification. I also like his statement that those who disagree with such a viewpoint often resort to namecalling (he uses the word wingnut as an example), but that they never have an actual argument against nullification (he also includes secession in this argument).

Again, secession is out of the question in my book. But nullification is a real constitutional option that we can use to block ObamaCare and Napolitano sites examples where it worked in the past without ANY violence.

He also lays the blame for our current situation squarely at the feet of not only Obama, but also GWB and both parties.

Over the many years since the Constitution was ratified, there has been an assault on individual liberties by all three branches of governement. The result is that today we find ourselves in a situation where no party has the will to extricate the country from the pathway of self-destruction we find ourselves on. The answer is for State’s to take back their rights – NOT through secession but through nullification. We can only restore fiscal sanity when we control the purse strings.

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=33362

http://tinyurl.com/ya3dc7f

This movement is gaining steam and over 30 states have passed, or are in the process of passing, nullification laws and resolutions. We are on our way. The second link provides the necessary background. Learning why nullification is constitutional, how it works, what needs to be done, and where the good sites are are included in the second link. Educating oneself takes effort and time, but in comparison to the sacrifices made by many in this country’s history both in the past and today, it is not a whole lot to ask. And the rewards of becoming a nation more powerful and free than any time in recent memory are priceless. Your children and their children will thank you it.

We live in interesting times.

I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents….James Madison

If you want to go fast – go alone. If you want to go far – go together.

To win against tyranny you must embrace not only novel solutions, but fear of the unknown as well.

Creative Threadjack

Christine (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 11:14AM EST (link)

This proposed ban is at the state level. Nullification is not an option.

The primary process is FLAWED. Two states should not decide our candidate.

“I would be a poor Commander in Chief”
– Barack Obama, July 3 2008

Individual Nullification

pdigaudio (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 12:22PM EST (link)

Of course nullification is an option. Individuals and businesses can simply refuse to comply, much like we can refuse to comply with the individual health mandates in ObamaCare.

 

I now that

GJ Merits (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 1:43PM EST (link)

The reason for the reference is explained in the first two paragraphs. The purpose of listing it is in response to the explicit question from Erick concerning tar and feathering and revolt. I doubt his reference is to a single issue by a local pol, but rather a string of usurpation of our rights that have been well catalogued here at Redstate, with healthcare being the number 1 topic of discussion.

So I get your point, but it not applicable to the reason I placed my reference here.

I had two purposes. One of them is outlined in a post at my site that I duplicated to a degree here: That of violent revolution in America. That post ends with my conclusion that nullification is a way to peacefully achieve our ends. I use the interview with Judge Napalitano to make my point that nullification has been used in a non-violent way in the past.

I short, my attempt is to pivot everyone to nullification and at least seriously consider it, before Erick’s post concerning revolution becomes true. I live in Austin, I have personally seen the beginning of the extremists coming out of the woodwork. I fear this will only increase over time. In this case, it was a leftists nutjob. In short, Erick’s post is not just about the salt ban from a local pol, it also references another post that really caught my eye and I have been thinking about since August of last year. When do we reach the tipping point?

I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents….James Madison

If you want to go fast – go alone. If you want to go far – go together.

To win against tyranny you must embrace not only novel solutions, but fear of the unknown as well.

Darnit!

GJ Merits (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 1:48PM EST (link)

Post title should be “I Know That”. I type too fast.

To the point of the salt ban I can only way this. It was recently discovered that the number one reason for death in the world, after much research, money, and manpower was dedicated over many years can be attributed to one thing….birth.

So quit trying to tell me what to eat and drink and if you put a warning label on my cellphone I’m ripping it off.

I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents….James Madison

If you want to go fast – go alone. If you want to go far – go together.

To win against tyranny you must embrace not only novel solutions, but fear of the unknown as well.

Major Cause of Death

edintexas Saturday, March 13th at 8:33AM EST (link)

As some wag pointed out on Limbaugh’s show Friday (IIRC), Dick Durban claims that 70 people die each day because they have no health insurance. Since the number of people in the US who die each day is far higher than 70, that means that having health insurance is, by far, the greater cause of death.

 
 

Extremists in Austin??

edintexas Saturday, March 13th at 8:37AM EST (link)

The city which we have called “Moscow on the Guadalupe” for decades? Surely you jest. Well, OK, I’ve observed it at least since the 70s, and in the mid to late 60s I was not in TX and Austin wasn’t on my mind.

 
 
 

Virginia.........

xstriperguide (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 9:15AM EST (link)

sent legislation to newly elected Republican governor Bob McDonnel barring the enforcement of forced purchasing of health insurance….he will sign it into law.

 
 

Upset stomach or something?

mustango (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 10:40AM EST (link)

Geez, Mr. Assemblyman, if you’ve got some kind of condition that leaves you intolerant of anything not totally bland, just tell us about it rather than impose your dietary restrictions on the rest of your district just so you don’t have to worry about going out for dinner!

(Yes I’m tongue-in-cheek here but couldn’t you see that happening?)

“I just miss — I miss being anonymous.” — Barack Obama

I fully sympathize, Mr. President. I miss you being anonymous too.

Well lets hope that any of the leftist Reps

Richard Mullins (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 10:55AM EST (link)

in the Legislature don’t have a bill like at the beginning of the 82nd Legislature in Jan 2011. I don’t want a sneak bill by either Garnet Coleman or some other Dem.That’s the real hope.

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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.

Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.

 
 

No salt ... no peace!! nt

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 10:45AM EST (link)

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


555555555555555.

Erick Erickson (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 10:57AM EST (link)

n/t

But shouldn’t it be “piece”?

Who will stand on either hand and keep this bridge with me?

if we tar and feather them Erick, would that be rubbing salt in the wound? -nt

Doc Holliday (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 5:33PM EST (link)

Molon Labe!

 
 
 

Haven't asked this question in some time

Bob_Frazier (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 10:58AM EST (link)

but where are the libertarians on issues like this? Is it only moral issues that concern social conservatives that get their blood up? This is just another example of the loss of liberty. You can’t even use salt???

How about the land grab out west Obama is ready to do by executive order?

Where are the libertarians? Their silence is deafening.

And I still want my incandescent light bulb back.

Real Libertarians ...

pdigaudio (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 5:27PM EST (link)

Should be opposing this, but many of the people I know who call themselves libertarians really are statists except for single issue things such as legalizing drugs, pushing the radical homosexual agenda, protecting jihadist “civil liberties” and pushing aggressive, in-your-face atheism.

I know one libertarian who is true to his beliefs and no doubt is outraged, but at least he is consistent. Most of your faux libertarians don’t care if we are enslaved by the Nanny State, as long as they get the right to toke up or bend over and grab their ankles and be anti-Christian bigots in the process.

 

libertarian-conservatives have always been on this

Doc Holliday (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 5:46PM EST (link)

I have been saying all along that those who are libertarian conservatives oppose EVERY government nanny state infringement. There are others that only notice when they start to lose thing important to them. But for the libertarian-conservative, liberty itself is the most important thing, so we always fight against government encroachment.

The government realizes many on the right and left can be divided by standing apart. First they go after tobacco and gambling because they know many will say: “well, I don’t like smoke and don’t care about gambling, let the government tax it more or ban it”. At that point the camel has his nose firmly inside the tent. The goal was never to ban “bad things”, the goal was always to set a precedent that government can ban ANYTHING.

So when I defend smokers rights, it is not because I smoke (I don’t), it is because I know all our rights are at stake. So when I defend people’s right to gamble, I am thinking about the government stealing our individuality and rights to live as we see fit.

When they went after trans fats, it was to “make us healthy”. But you must ask yourself, why do they care? Do they really care about my health or are they planning socialized medicine and a socialist order where we must always think of the whole, we can’t be individuals?

In the end we must decide if we are going to become some great mass of eunuchs or if we are going to be free men. I have already made my decision, and there is a point where they will go too far, there is a bridge that can not be crossed.

Molon Labe!

Farmers care about the health of the herd.

realskinny (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 2:44PM EST (link)

Progressives are exactly in the position of farmers. The people are livestock to them. The livestock must be kept healthy so they will produce. They must be dehorned, put in the proper pasture, fed the most efficient diet, milked as required, and culled when no longer useful.

Now you know everything you need to know about the agenda and motivation of progressives.

nice way of explaining their view Skinny -nt

Doc Holliday (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 8:21PM EST (link)

Molon Labe!

 
 
 

Mercury Bombs?

sccrenny (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 7:00AM EST (link)

Have you seen the instructions as to how to dispose of the curly mercury bombs they are pushing? Why would anybody willingly fill their home with these?

http://www.epa.gov/epawaste/hazard/wastetypes/universal/lamps/index.htm

When I look at Barack Obama I don’t see black. I don’t see white. I do, however see RED! It’s the same color I see when I look at Pelosi, Reid, ACORN, SEIU…

Precinct Delegate since 2010

 

Unintended consequences

mdd1956 Friday, March 12th at 9:06AM EST (link)

rest. can’t season food
food tastes bad
people visit restaurants less

social and cultural aspects of city life damaged
less public interaction
citizenry becomes more isolated
competence in arts (culinary) exported to France
pursuit of happiness harmed for all

business declines
workers get laid off
invested capital becomes less productive
private property damaged

taxis not used to go out to eat
agencies not used for advertising
printers not used for menus
culinary and art schools loose students lay off teachers

economy slows
entry level jobs no longer available
tax base declines
social problems increase
additional rules, regulations, programs and taxes needed
liberty eroded

means of support destroyed
life in peril

The mob will just open up some "Salt-Easy's" nt

Common_Cents (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 3:15PM EST (link)

Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from, behind, the Back Nine.
Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.

LOLx2 !! ... "salt-easy" .. brilliant! .. nt

spim Friday, March 12th at 5:06PM EST (link)

when they find you with a baggie of white crystals

Doc Holliday (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 8:23PM EST (link)

you will be better off it is cocaine. :)

Molon Labe!

 
 
 
 
 

Haven't asked this question in some time

Bob_Frazier (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 10:58AM EST (link)

but where are the libertarians on issues like this? Is it only moral issues that concern social conservatives that get their blood up? This is just another example of the loss of liberty. You can’t even use salt???

How about the land grab out west Obama is ready to do by executive order?

Where are the libertarians? Their silence is deafening.

And I still want my incandescent light bulb back.

So far it's only in some Leftist states

Richard Mullins (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 11:02AM EST (link)

and hasn’t been bought up in states like here in Texas(ok, that’s because they can’t do it until Jan. 2011[start of the 82nd Legislature]). So far a bill in congress seems unlikely, so at this point it’s not goin nationwide.

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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.

Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.

 
 

When salt is outlawed...

civil truth (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 11:01AM EST (link)

Only outlaws will have salt – preferably loaded into shotguns.

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

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Do they have any idea

Christine (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 11:16AM EST (link)

how horrible food tastes without salt? And you can’t just add it later….that doesn’t fix it.

Maybe they should go a month without salt and then tell us if they support the ban.

The primary process is FLAWED. Two states should not decide our candidate.

“I would be a poor Commander in Chief”
– Barack Obama, July 3 2008

Ban is not for Them Just Us

kipling (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 11:31AM EST (link)

Somehow or another, the salt ban will only affect us.

 

I was surprised this guy was not a WASP

Doc Holliday (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 5:48PM EST (link)

his mom must have been a terrible cook.

Molon Labe!

Try Baking without Salt......not a good thing

Michael Dugas (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 6:56AM EST (link)

n/t

Intro to Federalist Papers; section 5;
paragraph 4.
“…dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the zeal for a firm and efficient government.”

Remember: A Citizen on the dole is a Liberal Vote at the Polls.
END ENTITLEMENTS!

Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum !

 
 
 

When do people "Revolt"? When they get their land, their food, and their freedom taken.

archer52 Thursday, March 11th at 11:22AM EST (link)

Obama’s desire to take more land from the ranchers and farmers out west is the quickest way to get to that open revolt. Of course the elites really don’t get this. They really don’t understand how tied to the the land those people are. They consider those farmers and rancher just another group of uneducated underclass. But, they are a well armed underclass.

When do people revolt? When they are scared, hungry and can’t feed their kids. There are two waves coming ashore from opposite directions and D.C. is in the middle.

Wave one is the unsustainable debt owed generations of Americans. Welfare, SSI, Medicare etc. Sooner or later the checks will quit coming and we’ll see Greece here. That scares the dickens out of the politicians. Why? Simple. When the crowds have no money to feed their kids they’ll come looking for it, and who has the money? Rich elites.

Wave two- And not to shamelessly promote the book, but I predicted this thirteen years ago. The elitist plan to stop wave one is to steal the cash from any source of private industry and private citizens then turn around to pay the mounting debt. A “Peter to pay Paul” moment but at the end of the barrel of a gun.

However, this is America. A nation not built of indentured servitude or a peasant population, unlike Europe or China. We are also very, very well armed. Which means when the moment comes, when that last straw is thrown onto the camel’s back, citizens are going to say no. And only a violent response by the government will frighten them enough to submit. Maybe. The issue will be how scared are they because they can’t feed or care for their families verses how afraid of the violence and repercussions the government can bring (tax audits, public smears, police intervention, etc., even being jailed).

In the book “REVOLT” (www.revoltthebook.com) the plot centers around that very moment and all that happens afterward as a rogue President, supported by a frightened political class and a compliant MSM, initiates the takeover.

Sooner or later we are going to have to face the music. It is the natural order of things and the fate of all dominant nations which fell from its own internal corruption.

How we respond as a people will set our future and our children’s future for the next hundred years.

Revolt the book, not available for my Kindle....

USNJIMRET (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 12:06PM EST (link)

Sounds like one I would like to read, but current circumstances mean that if I can’t on the computer or on my Kindle, I don’t/can’t.
I did check the box at Amazon to send you/your publisher a request to allow it on Kindle.
As for the base idea of this thread, I don’t know if enough of the “People” are seeing what they need to in order to arrive at the conclusion that Revolt, violent or not, is rapidly becoming the only answer left.
I do trust the current power Trio (Nobama, Pelosi and Reid) to continue working like the crazed ideologues that they are to provide the teachable moments. Just not sure that enough people are paying attention.

Sure they are

hickorystick (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 4:05PM EST (link)

Look at Scott Browns victory. He gained tons of independants in Mass. And this is exactly my point. His election was issue specific to MA. He avoided inflamatory rhetoric. He spoke to things that were important to MA. Our party, the Republicans got started defending the Union. If we fail to win elections, it’s because either we become too corrupt for the electorate to stomach, or we fail to connect with the voters issues. As Republicans, we all of people should understand a Republic is made up of a number of different states, each one unique. If we try to nationalize issues, it’s at the danger of losing connection with the individual States. The candidates last election didn’t even bother coming to Washington. When they do come to states, they don’t know squat about them. If we are upset now, we only have our ourselves to blame, because we didn’t hold our own leaders accountable when we had power. They failed to speak out about anything else, except the Iraq War and Terrorism. People got tired of it, so tired they elected a governance neophyte. We as a party need to develop a wide range of issues and interests, and stop trying to take the easy way out by nationalizing issues. Nationalizing and bringing under the power of the Fed is a Democrat strategy, we should reject it and start acting like republicans. Then, people will have a party they can trust again. Before a revolution or after a revolution, a trustworthy party will have to be built. I’d rather do it without revolution.

 
 
 

Tar and Feathering

kipling (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 11:29AM EST (link)

I have been boiling pitch and plucking feathers for the past week!

 

This reminds me of a food travel show

4life (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 11:58AM EST (link)

from one of the former Eastern Block countries, can’t remember which one. They were in a new restaurant that was trying the raise the culinary level in their city since under communism food was for survival only and people had just gotten used to eating bland lifeless dishes. Apparently, most people are still just eating the few recipes that they learned to cook from their parents and this restaurant was trying to raise their awareness of ‘good food’.

Also, when skiing out west another person on our long gondola ride said that he heard the gov’t might go after companies like Kraft for making snack foods tasty, since that adds to the obesity rate. He thought it was a good idea. I thought he was joking. Maybe he wasn’t!!!

 

Won't pass

raydawggie Thursday, March 11th at 1:03PM EST (link)

I’m sure some of the nanny staters would love to pass it, but there’s a bigger issue at stake here.

This would absolutely cripple the dining industry in the culinary capital of the world, right in the middle of a terrible budget crisis. That’s a whole new level of crazy.

 

This is getting ridiculous

revolutionary Thursday, March 11th at 1:16PM EST (link)

I am a Dietitian by trade and I would love to see people take better care of themselves, BUT (and it is a big but) regulating what we CHOOSE to eat is not going to stop anyone from unhealthy behavior. I am so sick and tired of the government trying to regulate everything we do…my God is nothing sacred anymore. I mean are they going to charge in and arrest me if I add salt to my food after it is served to me. Why can’t the Dems understand things like personal choice, responsibility, consequences for poor choices…oh wait they do understand those things but only when it applies to something THEY want!!!! My question to all of the legislators is this: When legislation is passed that prohibits chocolate from being sold in the free market, will you still think it is a good idea to regulate our food consumption and free will in choosing what we eat as your wife stabs you with a whittled carrot stick?

-For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the very definition of slavery.
Jonathan Swift-

-Majority rule only works if you’re also considering individual rights. Because you can’t have five wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for supper.
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-I had reasoned this out in my mind, there was one of two things I had a right to, liberty or death; if I could not have one, I would have the other.
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John Stossel's new show is all about this.

Common_Cents (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 3:19PM EST (link)

Latest show on licensing freakin florists! This head of the floral board in Louisiana made a fool out of himself, saying requires govt to “ensure a quality flower”.

Stossel also said that states such as MN with highest requirements for electricians have some of the most electrocution cases because people try to do it themselves rather than pay a higher cost for a more limited supply of electricians by union/license requirements.

Unintended consequences hurt.

Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from, behind, the Back Nine.
Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.

 
 

The threat from progressives

indyjohn Thursday, March 11th at 2:19PM EST (link)

These true believer, utopian fascists are so committed to their program of domination that nothing will stop them except a credible threat of physical harm. They do not beilieve that the American people have the guts to take that extreme step. They believe that, if they exert enough pressure, the fat, lazy majority of Americans will just shrug its shoulders and let them destroy the political system.

But what is liberty without wisdom, and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness, without tuition or restraint.
Edmund Burke

Where's our Rosa Parks, our Concord Minutemen?

america1st (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 5:19AM EST (link)

There is a lot of steam in the kettle. Somewhere among us there has to be someone who will become the flash point, the person who reaches his / her tipping point and says not merely “no,” but “Hell, NO!” So they become the rallying symbol for patriotic American citizens, others who will stand on the green and give their lives if need be to end the leftist nanny state despotism. At this rate, that time is coming – perhaps even this morning.

Logic in the mind of a liberal is like a snowflake in the desert: lost, alone and soon destroyed by a hostile environment.

 
 

Why would I be cleaning my gun and buying ammo

hickorystick (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 2:34PM EST (link)

because New York won’t allow Restauranteurs to add salt to their food. I live in Washington State, in Seattle. If New York politics leads them to ban salt I couldn’t care less. It doesn’t affect my interest. Frankly, I’m glad we have the power in the states to make these choices. What works for New Yorkers doesn’t work for Washingtonians . The enviroment(s), culture, history, and make-up of the people, are entirely different. Oftentimes the State politicians march down the wrong road, or make an unpalatable choice for the People of Washington, and we have to change some personell, or get an initiative on the ballot to stop or change (theirs your nullification) a law. If your state doesn’t have a right to initiative, work to get one. It works great here in Washington.
My bigger concern is when Federal City imposes their ideas on my State. They don’t know anything about Washington State. Apples and oranges, even apples and apples. An apple doesn’t taste the same grown in New York or Michigan as it does in WA. The external markets for Apples is different. The growing method and certification process is different. Organic farming is highly profitable in Washington and Oregon, not so much elsewhere, I think; I don’t know ’cause I don’t live there.
Eastern Washington near Spokane is Semi-Arid, and waste water doesn’t dissipate or get carried off to the Ocean. If Spokane County wants to ban Phosphates, thats their problem. In Seattle, were more mountainous, and the difference in grades facilitates movement of rainwater from inland to the sea. Ponds and water tables don’t accumulate these minerals. We have modern waste treatment plants, that release into the Puget Sound, which eventually carries into the ocean.
Apparenly the progressives in Western WA can’t stand the fact progressives in Spokane have a more stringent enviromental Regulation than in Western Washington, and have done a knee-jerk law to catch up. When the dishes come out dirty, and the dishwasher stops working and the repairman has to be called out, there is going to be hell to pay politically. This will be a good internal state issue. we’ll could pick up a couple R’s in the legislature over it. But please don’t nationalize it or the Lib’s will rally with the progressives and use the gun issue to mock conservatives (previously linked article). Murray is already raising funds over a ‘hanging Patty Murray’ remark, taken out of context of course, made in Asotin County. We need to remember Swamp Yankee’s advice when dealing with metropolitan areas. Stay away from the buttons. When talking about cities and urban environments, use the word Liberty, not rights, choices, not duty, lifestyle, not tar and feathering government officials.
The mayor in Seattle got thrown out over an imposition of a twenty cent tax on plastic bags, and poor snow removal last year. The cities can be penetrated, and enough people convinced to vote for a Republican to replace Murray. Just be careful as an outsider not to seem like your pushing your national or rural values on the state. We can make our own choices, and we have our own tipping points. You may not agree with them, but we are a sovereign state.
Thanks, and you’ve been writing some fabulous stuff recently.

 

I want to attack the ver absurd idea that being more healthy will lower our costs

kyle8 (Diary) Thursday, March 11th at 6:06PM EST (link)

Listen to my reasoning. Everyone who is born eventually dies. Therefore if you live a very long life or a very short one it is of no consequence since eventually you will probably need some medical care.

However if I drop dead of a massive heart attack at the age of fifty five while my neighbor lives to be ninety then you tell me who is most likely to use up health care and put burdens on the system?

If you live old enough you will have a LOT of things go wrong with you.
Furthermore you will certainly use up more retirement and social security than someone who dies before the age of 65.

So, I categorically deny that entire argument. We would be better off as a society (cost wise) if everyone just died at the age of sixty fivefive.

so don’t buy into the argument that they want to regulate our lives for our own good, that is a lot of horse hockey.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

Everyone......

xstriperguide (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 9:20AM EST (link)

wants to go to Heaven……nobody wants to die!

 

I can agree with your conclusion.

BA Cyclone (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 10:38AM EST (link)

As has been said in several other posts and topics, it’s not about salt. It’s not about medical care. It’s not about (insert subject here).

These are excuses and feel-good topics of the day to use central power and central planning to exert more control. It is the only logical answer.

Government-lovers only yearn to focus more power in city halls and capital cities, so they and their friends can get elected and eventually never have to worry about the multitudes electing anyone else that will upset their new balance…the only popular pols will be those who will send voters “free government stuff”.

…or so they think.

The worst thing is the attitude of “it can’t happen here.” We are already there with Medicare and SSA. Sacred cows.

“If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions.” — James Madison

“Electing Republicans who don’t have the courage of their convictions may be easier in some circumstances, but it won’t save our country.” — Jim DeMint

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I can agree with your conclusion.

BA Cyclone (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 10:38AM EST (link)

As has been said in several other posts and topics, it’s not about salt. It’s not about medical care. It’s not about (insert subject here).

These are excuses and feel-good topics of the day to use central power and central planning to exert more control. It is the only logical answer.

Government-lovers only yearn to focus more power in city halls and capital cities, so they and their friends can get elected and eventually never have to worry about the multitudes electing anyone else that will upset their new balance…the only popular pols will be those who will send voters “free government stuff”.

…or so they think.

The worst thing is the attitude of “it can’t happen here.” We are already there with Medicare and SSA. Sacred cows.

“If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions.” — James Madison

“Electing Republicans who don’t have the courage of their convictions may be easier in some circumstances, but it won’t save our country.” — Jim DeMint

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BA Cyclone on Twitter

 

ummm....i don't think they claim it is for our own good

mikerazar (Diary) Saturday, March 13th at 11:34AM EST (link)

when they are with their friends, drinking blue label and scarfing down beluga. Only out in public, when they are touting whole grains and veggies, do they get that patronizing look in their eyes as they assure us of their unselfish motives.

We have a nation to save, people.

 
 

This is what happens...

jimwzdp (Diary) Friday, March 12th at 9:31AM EST (link)

When you give power to people with disturbing authoritarian tendencies, and whose intellecutal development falls someplace between wood and toothpaste….