to Redstate but I like what I see here. I think you are spot on,Erik. So far Redstate is a formidable force in the rise of conservatism. Let’s keep up the fight.

Talk of 3rd parties is lunacy.

I expect to see a main tent speech from you at next year’s CPAC.

the Republican Party embrace and hijack the idea of Tea Party conservatism… then actually act on the principles without giving in…

On the other hand large political parties have come and gone… and the Republic continued…

Would be nice to see the Dems fracture into “socialists” and “not socialists” and become two different parties altogether…

Would be damn nice to see the Tea Party shove out most of the sellout/get along to go along power mongers in both parties…

Mr Erickson, well said. Thank you, it is exactly right on.

It’s a lot easier to turnover the House – we’re looking at a much more conservative House next year, whether we take it or not. We lost some good members, but a lot of dead weight in 2006-8, but just 4 years later we can have conservatives in office. The Senate just takes soooo much longer mainly since the terms are 3x as long. Coupled with incumbency, makes it tough to defeat a sitting Senator in a primary, and you’re looking at 6-12 years if you swap out a D then back to an R.

It’s important to win the open primary battles (like Rubio), because taking out sitting Senators is just about impossible (but thanks to Utah not having a primary so hopefully we can take out one there).

In general, I agree with Erick.
However, there are some Republicans I can’t stomach voting for. Arlen Specter was one example (I live in PA), and I wound up voting third party for Senate.

And I hate to say it, but Mitt Romney is another. If he winds up getting the GOP nod in 2012, I guarantee that I will vote third party. From Romneycare to the endless flip-flopping on important issues, and not to mention his ceaseless pandering to whichever electorate he happens to be appealing to, I cannot vote for someone who believes he can insult the intelligence of the voters with impunity – nor will I.

At this point, the GOP is in danger of losing elections wherever moderates win who alienate grass roots conservatives such as myself. The establishment can blame voters all they want, but the fact remains that they dug this hole for themselves by betraying their principles time and time again. When the going got tough, the establishment caved.

and they dont need to be viable to make a difference. Some will find a home in the Libertarian Party. Some will run as Independents and some will destroy the “R” brand in an election year by supressing the conservative turnout.

Winning elections and governing is much tougher than protesting. I never respected the Libertarian because of their ideological zeal. Think think they are principled, but they have never had to build coalitions, lead or govern. They are just backbenchers, throwing bombs. There are great establishment Republicans, who have long records. They should not be scorned for being in the trenches. Otherwise, we become Libertarians, sitting on our websites and perpetually whining about the estabishment and get nothing and win nothing.

You do know that conservatism and folks who held to it existed before the Tea Party dudes right?

Glen Beck’s pushing for a third party is a Democrat’s dream. Divide and conquer is exactly what the libs want. To not understand that a third party would give the Democrats victory makes me believe Beck is either ignorant or working for the other side.

The cult following of Beck is dangerous and makes the coming election very scary if we allow this to continue.

Erick Erickson!”

*much applause*

NYT Op-Ed, via hotair.

Chafee is a loser and I guess misery loves company. I don’t believe Bayh is crazy, however.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/21/opinion/21chafee.html

Okay, back to Beck. Never watched more Beck than perhaps one or 2 clips before. I was turned off by his flirtation with 3rd party fan dancing. Although I sort of think Beck is just going for the attention it gets him by seeming to hate both parties, if he doesn’t come out strongly for the 2 party system soon, I’ll not have any further use for the man.

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out of Beck’s speech. He said there has to be a better choice than “less bad” and when he talked about the tax and spend and the come to Jesus meeting he wasn’t talking about a third party but addressing the GOP as he would a family member in trouble as someone might have done for him if they’d been around when he was lying in fetal position on the floor.

If people got advocating for a “third party” out of his speech, it was more projection than actual, whether it’s something they fear or something they’re leaning towards themselves.

I also just returned home from my first CPAC. It was my first. It was awesome.

Erick you continue to nail it perfectly IMO. I could not agree more with your post. NO third Party… BUT/AND… the GOP LEADERSHIP is still WAY off.
I agree the entire Republican Party isn’t way off….just mostly the leadership you mentioned. And.. I will assert…the reasons are that the leadership is still WAY too HEAVILY influenced/fearful of attacks from the Huffington/McCain core liberal moderacy group that I assert are still behind the intent of the GOP leaders you mentioned.

My intent is to make a difference from inside the GOP and I will probably have the chance to start next month. The key area I plan to engage in though is to shift the mindset of the current GOP leadership from negatively interfering with the local elections and policies…..UNTIL THEY SHIFT AWAY from the “liberal influences” mentioned in this post.
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Regarding my first trip to CPAC.

I just want to thank both you Erick, and the RedState Staff, for the welcome and support at CPAC. It was a real gift to get to meet and hang out with you and Kevin, Moe, Leon, Caleb and the entire group that were there. Still looking forward to meet Neil, Streiff, Aaron and writers and other contributors for RedState.

Thanks for your support and thanks for your recommendations. One of the reasons I went to CPAC was to get to link with you all in person. As a newly retired Army Officer and very inexperienced and new writer/blogger/contributor….it made a HUGE difference for me. I’m sending a better thank you, to follow, but wanted to start here. I’m looking forward to begin a starter diary and or contribute the best I can. I am full in synch with your policies and principles and you can consider me a full supporter / partner.
Thanks Again,
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Erick: “I am a Republican before I am a Democrat. But at the end of the day, I am a conservative before I am a Republican.”

Rubio: “We already have one Democratic Party. We don’t need another. The Republican Patry is the natural home of conservatism.”

They are both correct

The End.

I have never gotten the impression that he is agitating for a third party. Just like the RedState community, he stands behind conservatives in the Republican party. I believe he has a similar understanding of the situation as most of the posters I read here. I will say that I believe he’s less likely to throw his weight behind progressive Republicans. We might be willing to fight for a less-than-ideal Republican, but I don’t think Beck would. At the end of the day, the man is an ally, however imperfect.

What Glen is saying is that both parties have been usurped by the Progressives, Democrats more so than Republican but never the less moving in that direction.

What Glen wants, wishes, rants about is for the good people in both parties to wake up, recognize the progressives for what they are and stop them in their tracks. If you have ever wondered how we have gotten to this point, Glen is educating the masses about the Progressive movement and that is all.

I can’t see how anyone can get from Glen anything other than that, no third parties, no one party over the other, just that there is a Progressive movement out there and we have to fight it.

Interestingly enough, this is what Ron Paul suggested to his followers (albeit after the presidential election in which he did support Chuck Baldwin, a third party candidate over McCain), that they effect change within the Republican Party, through primaries, local party organization, etc. He insisted that he is a Republican, and it is the best vehicle to promote and advance his idea of conservatism.

The problem then was the fierce resistance: they are scorned (by some, not all) and their main spokesman Ron Paul, ridiculed and derided all around the Republican establishment and even among the conservative grassroots.

The same frustrations are already beginning to apply to many ‘tea party activists’ who are attempting the same thing–to influence the Republican party through primaries and geting involved in party organization. Yes, expelling trutherism and birtherism is probably a smart move, but what’s next? End-the-Fed-ism? (Many establishment ‘conservatives’ are already trying this) Anti-future “jobs” bills or such? (How much are they going to like the Republican party if they’re told to swallow programs like that by McCain or McConnell or Boehner?)

And, the House and Senate GOP leadership’s idea of ‘Republicans have solutions on health care’ is Obama Lite. Sure, it’s very ‘lite’ but it’s still the same thing. Offering government exchanges that are simply less impeding is still not the free market. When the grassroots say free market they mean, hey, how about starting to work on ways to avoid forcing future generations into Medicare, get the federal government out of insurance, hospitals, HMOs, Union favoritism….instead of countering a trillion dollar plan with a 200 billion dollar plan?

Things like that are where they see Republicans and Democrats as one. Being “a little less socialist/intrusive/big” doesn’t make it free, and that’s partially what the tea party is all about and why they’re calling out establishment Rs and Ds both. People are realizing that Republican talking points only apply under Democratic administrations, and realize that with the current leadership and incumbents, it will be a repeat of the Bush years should a standard Republican candidate be elected again in 2012. They realize that if McCain had won, it wouldn’t look that much different from Obama’s admin, aside from Iran rhetoric and trials for terrorists.

Just some thoughts.

like Newt, or the NRSC making endorsements and supporting candidates that do not hold conservative ideals the idea of a 3rd party will always have appeal.

I personally do not like CPAC and believe that CPAC is not the greatest showcase of the broad conservative movement! I wish Palin had been there and think that social conservatives and values voters were largely absent and undepresented at CPAC. CPAC reminds me of the Republican establishment and I hate to see fakes like George Will and others on display! Marco Rubio was great, Bob McEwen was very good and wish he was still in Congress. Liberals clearly sabotaged the CPAC straw poll for Ron Paul. 48% of the total vote was from non-paying college students (Democrats Undermining as Usual). 53% of the vote was under 25! Only 5% of the vote was from people under 25 that actually paid. If you think the rougly 800 votes that Paul got are from conservatives or even right leaning libertarians, then you are crazy. The audience had almost no Ron Paul supporters. It was mostly a Romney crowd. The libtards turned the straw poll into a joke and kind of ruined the event for me! The straw poll was like the Fox News text polls during the Republican debates. Ron Paul was terrible in every debate and did not even come close to winning anything and rarely got double digit support anywhere. Erick, Mitch Daniels is good, but John Kasich would be better. I firmly believe that Mitt Romney will not be the nominee in 2012! Palin probably has a better chance than Mitt, especially if Huckabee does not run. Mitch Daniels, John Kasich, and Bob McDonnell would all be better than Romney. Pawlenty is clearly going nowhere and Conservatives are not buying him even among the establishment. Rubio would have a better chance than Pawlenty in 2012. If Jim DeMint wins re-election big, I look for him to consider a run.There will be a lot of takers in 2012 and we will not end up with an establishment next-in-line-guy (Romney). Mitt is a guaranteed loser. The Republican party still wants a social conservative. McCain’s Pro-Life record put him ahead of Romney and Rudy in 2008. Romney could not even get ahead of Huckabee in almost every primary.

I must also agree that Beck is not for the third party but I am dead sure he will endorse the candidate that is for limited government, spending cuts, and even term limits.
A third party would just be more progressivity in my opinion. We really do need to get back to the beginning- almost. In the words of Beck from his speech and his radio show…we must remember who we are, we must stand up.

Because it will again be morning in America. Beck is leading the way with his passion, many of our truths, and simply his love for this Country. It almost doesn’t get better than that.

I am heartily in favor of, for instance, The Green Party. They did, after all, give us President George W. Bush.

on his Corner post, I think he missed the point entirely. Beck, who I find amusing but don’t always agree with on every issue, made a spectacular point: Republicans have a horrible recent history with spending abuses.

When President Bush took office, he had a $200B+ surplus; when he left, well…. And I understand he had to deal with 9/11, but that’s not justification for the ridiculous Republican excesses of 2001-2007. We’re the party that fights deficits, not the one that creates them, except our vaunted leaders did (and massive ones at that).

In almost every poll, the GOP still has a bad rep, just not as bad as Pelosi & Co. Our congressional leaders, the ones wanting our trust & vote again, should state, declare, proclaim, even, that they’ve learned their lesson. The new generation – Rubio & Co – must pledge on the lives of their first born that they will not, under no circumstances, do as Hassert & Co did. Otherwise, we’re asking for more of the same.

I hope Secretary Bennett jumps on board. If so, from his respected perch, I hope, if the GOP is trusted again with majorities (and possibly the presidency), he’ll be ready hold them accountable – each and every one of them. I hope my hope is not misplaced.

I made my signature before Erick’s post. It is absolutely essential to vote Republican in November. We have to give the GOP leadership time to “come to Jesus.” If we must go third party, that assessment absolutely cannot even begin to be made until AFTER the November 2012 elections. And it would take some pretty serious problems with the GOP leadership to even consider it at THAT point. Erick made the case to stay Republican better than I have ever heard it before.

Both *big national parties* could use the competition… as it is they simply point at each other and say “we’re better than they are because of X, Y or Z” to voters who are often very much set in their ways and going to vote for them anyhow.

The reason that a third party really scares either side is they are afraid they will lose the independent voters to them. If the Republican leadership would stop acting like dems (or at least stop playing nicey nice or get along to go along etc) there would be no Tea Party movement.

If the Republican and Democrat parties split the Internationalist vote, then the real conservatives, independents, and budget conscious democrats could vote 3rd party.

We need a 3rd Party – the Balanced Budget Party, which I would vote for.

Dis, I don’t agree. How would the Dems pay everyone off? That’s the essence of the Dem party, as we know. A bunch of paid off groups. Remove their money flow, and they go down the drain. The natural conservative entities in the Country would inevitably gain power.

It is time we wrest control of the GOP from the likes of McCain and Graham. They have destroyed the party of Reagan and will continue to put forth candidates throughout the nation they believe best represent their liberal agenda. We can revamp the GOP by refusing to support the candidates they support. One has to look no farther than Florida and Colorado to see the revolution. We may not beat all the lapdogs of McCain but we will in Florida and Colorado with Rubio and Buck.

We don’t need a third party, we simply need a second party. Thats why we lost power, because we became as bad (maybe worse?) than the Democrats a few years ago. We had the power, and our leaders set records for big spending and big defecits, while taking bribes and sleeping with hookers and young boys (or covering up for the ones who were). They weren’t interested in being Conservative, or even simply being decent human beings. Thats why so many people are talking about a third party, they just want a party with leadership they can believe in. If we had real Conservative leadership in the Republican Party, instead of the fake Conservatives who talk the talk but don’t walk the walk nobody would be talking about any of this. Im a Republican because Im a Conservative, and just like Erick Im Conservative first and Republican second. I agree completely with Glenn when he says its not enough anymore to say ‘the other side is worse’, we need to stand for what is RIGHT, not what is simply less wrong. We have some fantastic candidates running this year, I feel really good about our party if we can get folks like Rubio, Williams, Paul, and DeVore into the Senate, that would be a really good start at turning things around. But ultimately we need better leadership at the top, we need less of the McConnells and Boehners, and more of the DeMints and Ryans. If we could get those guys in at the top of the Senate and the House I would REALLY feel good about our Party finally getting its act together and becoming the fighting second party that is what all of us are asking for so loudly.

or the people totally angry at O-hole for not being liberal enough? We need a third party on the left, they deserve it!

http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2010/02/22/the-avandia-beatup/

The guys over at this site gives a nice example of why Beck and others are upset with the Republicans. Read the post. Apparently, Chuck Grassley (R) is complaining about the FDA not hammering a drug company over a diabetes drug and it’s less than one half of one percent increase in the RISK of having heart trouble. One could argue that percentage may very well be an “operator error” on the part of the study.

Yet, there is ol’ Chuck standing shoulder to shoulder with a Senator who only goal is to undermine private healthcare and punish big business. Why give the democrat cover? As I posted over there, it is either one of two things.
1. Grassley is too dumb to see he is being used.
2. This is a shake down and Grassley is wanting in on the “If you give a little we’ll go away” angle.

Look, I’m not the smartest guy in the world, but even I can see the pitfalls of getting involved here. First of all, if I were interviewing Grassley my first question would be- “So, exactly when did you take the time to read the study and all its underlining data? I mean, you are challenging the FDA over this, so what do you see they don’t?”

I went to his website and this is the link to his bio-

http://grassley.senate.gov/about/More-About-Grassley.cfm

Long time cardiologist is not on the list. But he sure plays the “I’m here to hold people responsible” card. In his bio he proudly proclaims he is a fiscal hawk in one paragraph but then boasts in a previous one how he got so much pork into Iowa.

I’ll do a post at my site and not bother you here. But suffice it to say, THIS is what Beck and people like me are talking about. Senators and others who have been inside for so long cannot understand why we see their behavior as out of line. I’ll bet money he doesn’t realize how stupid those two paragraphs sound.

Between Teddy Roosevelt and Ross Perot, there was also John Anderson. Perot may have sunk the Bush I re-election, But Anderson got over 7% of the vote (53%, in my precinct) and failed to halt a Reagan landslide. Anderson was even more conservative than Reagan, and some of his platform was adopted by Reagan.

America is the only democratic nation in the world to have only two parties in office. Our rare “Independents” came from one party or the other, or both.

It might put many “politicos” in the position of finding new jobs, but it might not hurt to have a viable third party. There’s not much difference between our parties’ politicians. Why did our leader John Cornyn raise $1.3+ million from lawyers?>a

Bill Bennet is wrong about libertarian takeover. In economic hard times, and this one is perilous, people stop fighting over social issues and worry about their pocketbooks. Republicans can score points at the health summit by emphasizing measures that will cut cost. Adding entitlements right now will raise costs. Then they should pledge to run in November on a platform of creating jobs and further reforming health care by proposing free market solutions, and then see whose ideas are best.

Mr. Beck seems hardly alone. There were many at the Tea Party convention who are independent and have become independent recently. Sarah Palin talks about that often in sort of admiration, but I think it’s probably wrong to promote independence in states where there are closed primaries because our real power in the party exists at the primary ballot box.

If we want to reshape the party more to our liking we can’t just get fed up and leave, complaining that all we get are big governemnt Republicans to vote for. That does NOT solve the problem. It leaves the rest of the tent deciding who will run, and the Marko Rubios, with whom most of us more closely agree, get shut out in favor of the Charlie Christs for the general election.

If we want Republicans who are more in line with Reagan and Goldwater to vote for we need to be engaged and involved in party activities or we will be left with terrible choices and terrible outcomes in the general elections. We should take heed of what Newt Gingrich said about the Polish resistence, “There are more of us than there are of them,” and realize that we have a great deal of power to shape the party if we just stick together.

Glenn Beck had the attention of the Republican leadership at CPAC, and he got it said: BE Republicans (be conservative) and stop pandering to the moderate Republicans and the RINOS; stick to the Republican party platform; and stick to the constitution. God forbid if he’s also saying that he wants a third party. Work within the Republican party to effect change; going outside of it will only mean WE LOSE.

speaker. I’ve actually thought that maybe he was invited in order to attract the Ron Paul Libertarians. If that was the case, they succeeded for sure. I’ve always believed that CPAC was a convention for Conservative Republicans. As you’ve said yourself Erick, there was no central theme this year. Are they trying to pander to everyone, like the big tent Republicans obviously are?

Beck could not have said anything other than what he did. The one thing I do believe about Beck is that he will not lie, or pander. He has consistently claimed that the Republicans, all of them, like there was a blanket thrown over every one of them, are as bad as the Democrats. The only exception that I have heard, one time he said that DeMint was the only Republican he trusts. If you missed that few seconds on his show, you wouldn’t know he even thinks that. When he said that Progressives are in both parties, without naming names, he put a doubt in many minds as to who he may be referring. For some that aren’t political animals, that puts a dark cloud over all Republicans. In some ways, Beck’s speech was damaging to what people like those at Redstate are fighting for. He didn’t help those that are working so hard to get good conservative candidates in the primaries.

Sure the Republican party has screwed up. The fact that there is no one in the Leadership, such as McConnell, who will fight aggressively against the Progressive takeover of the country disgusts many of us. That weakness can be interpreted by some as being complicit. That is probably the one biggest reason why there are so many dissaffected Republicans. Where are they going to go? They won’t become lefties. A third party probably sounds like the best idea to them. Yes, I do believe that Beck is pushing in that direction. If he was trying to teach the Republicans a lesson, he is doing a bad job of it. In his speech, how many times did he talk about his former alcholism? He devoted alot of time on that. Is he implying that it will be a hard road to walk to building a strong third party movement? or, is he implying that it will be a hard road to walk to getting the Republican party back to their conservative principles? The fact that he never talks about national security/foreign policy issues makes me tend to believe he is pushing for a 3rd party, with a Libertarian foreign policy platform.

GOP does not equal Dems…..I got the progressive thing and Wilson…that is history ….our problem is Obama, Pelosi, Frank etc….
GOP era failures of Bush ,Delay are history….if you have not heard GOP’s complain and repent over past screw ups …you are not listening…Beck needs to take his own inventory ….I like Beck , I watch and listen to him ….but he is too critical of the GOP…you cannot continually browbeat people for past mistakes with causing resentment ….Beck will elect Dems if he does not grow up….3rd party stuff is for losers.

I expect we’ll get a flood of people who don’t understand the concept that Erick is trying to express.

Hey people! Before you post, understand this!!!!!!

Third party movements will guarantee the re-election of Obama!!!!!

I can show you the math if you don’t believe me, but you probably won’t listen to that either……

he is in amazement that his keynote speech hasn’t been as wildly popular as Rush’s speech last year. Hummm, that’s a little arrogant. He claims that his speech hasn’t been covered on most of the networks because what he said is correct, hummm.

From what Beck is saying today, he is blaming the entire Republican party for what the leadership, as he sees it, such as the NRSC, is still supporting and backing people like Charlie Crist. He gives no credit, at all, whatsoever, to people like Redstate and many other conservative sites, that are also fighting against the Republican elites and the moderates in Washington. He replayed the portion of his speech where he said that the Republicans have not learned, and that they haven’t had their come to Jesus moment. He said he doesn’t see it happening. Beck is completely ignoring us in the grassroots, and the great gains we have been making. Beck has an ulterior motive, but, we don’t know just what it is yet. I’m afraid to find out.

Erick Erickson wrote: “And for those of you who think that is no big deal, let me ask you again: how many Americans are going to die because of Barack Obama’s handling of our national security? If you think the GOP would be as bad on this issue, you need a reality check….”

I can’t say I agree with everything Glenn Beck promulgates but he was right about this, …”It is not enough just to not suck as much as the other side.” George W. Bush, for whom I voted in 2000, both he and the Republicans did not suck as much on foreign policy as the other side, and that is the best I can say. Bush repeatedly lied about the enemy. Bush and his chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, warned Israel off taking care of Iran’s nascent nuclear capability. Bush and the Republican codified the establishment of a 23 Muslim terror state in the Middle East in our national Republican party platform. Please don’t get me started on Bush and his foreign policy Mr. Erickson. If anything helped elevate America’s first Muslim-born president to high office is was Bush and the Republican’s deplorable foreign policy.

I don’t agree that bashing the Republicans is the way to conjure support, however, I don’t want to see us like the Democrats and blaming everyone else for all of the problems. Republicans have helped create the mess we are in today. Granted, they are not trying to cripple the country of late, but they stood silent too many times (or spoke up too softly) and I am glad to see some of our party calling like they see it. We have to, as a party, admit to the mistakes and prove we have learned from them. That said, I agree with Erick. We have to vote Conservative when it is a Republican race and then Republican when it is with the Dems. I would vote for Romney in a minute if he was running against Obummer- even though I am not convinced Romney is the best of the Republicans for the job. We have two years to stop the freight train and begin turning it around. Putting the right people in place this November will make huge gains in doing that.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/cpacs_odd_ending.html

“Glenn Beck got huge ovations as he disavowed any conservative ascendancy in the Republican party.”

From one of the comments-

“Beck is trying to impose himself into a club he has not been invited to join.”

Comment made the most around the web-

“Beck does/says what he does for the ratings.”

…who think that this country would be better off it we evicted EVERYONE from DC and started over.

They all need to go.

We need to try all of them for treason.

Some (like maybe Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor, a few others) will be found innocent and can return to politics in the future. Others will be found guilty and shot for their crimes.

1775 and 1861. The Commicrats are trying to make us all into slaves of the State and the Republicans look at us like King George and Parliament looked at the colonists.

That’s where we are and Glenn Beck speaks to WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

It’s not really about elections, Eric.

Few people believe that we can fix things by voting for one bunch of thieving arrogant traitors over another.

We all hope so but we doubt it.

It’s about overthrowing the government – either by throwing them all out in a real vote for revolt or by breaking out the home arsenals and marching on Washington and removing them all.

Glenn Beck is speaking to our WE THE PEOPLE feelings … remember John Hancock?

I will not, repeat, will not ever vote for Ron Paul.

Erick: a couple of remarks. First, I am a rock solid Republican Conservative. A third party is a last resort option and even in such circumstances, a poor one.

a) I do not believe Glenn Beck is touting a third party solution. What he is doing is shouting a wake up call to to moderate Republicans and Independents to join the Conservative wing of the Republican party. And, he made it very clear that the “tent” is defined by “Conservative Values”

b) It is no longer acceptable to “Hold Your Nose” and vote for the lessor of two evils. This I did in this last election when voting for John McCain. Frankly, if a “Third Party” had offered a candidate I would not have voted that way because of the “dilution factor” inherent in a third party vote.

c) Conservatives make up the largest plurality, if not the majority, of the American voting population. They will join with us if we stick to our “Conservative Guns” (no pun intended). No enlargement of the “Tent” is necessary. Reagan knew this and look what he accomplished.

The Hatchs, McCains, Grahams, Collins, Snowes of the Senate and their counterparts in the House have to go. That is our real challenge and task.

PC is Thought Control
LEE

Incidentely Bipartisanship is a “dirty word” and should be stricken from the conservative vocabulary until such time as the “other side of the aisle” understands the it says “Bi” not one way. As currently practiced it is an exercise in futility and is the equivalent of one side being told that to participate bend over and grab your ankles.

I hope you listened to his TV show tonight. Talking about his CPAC speech, he said that he is accused by some of not being partisan enough. He couldn’t seem to grasp that he was talking at the Conservative Political Action Committee convention, that is in fact the conservative wing of the Republican party. Duhh.

He addressed that many are accusing him of promoting a third party. He said, if either of the parties don’t get their act together, well, “if that’s the only way to go, then that’s the way we have to go.” Sure, he said he didn’t think it would be a good idea, but, he left that door very very wide open. How will he determine if the conservative wing of the Republican party has gotten it’s act together? Oh yeah, he did name a few Republicans that he felt were not Progressive, but he certainly didn’t speak as though he believes them, or that he believes they have done anything for conservationism. Go back to his CPAC speech when he said that the Republicans have not had their come to Jesus moment, and, that he didn’t think they will. Think about his morning in America segment when he said it’s as though all the politicians have hung over the bowl for 4 hours, and woke up in the morning that was nothing more than a hangover.

The conservative/republican sites today are on fire as to Beck’s CPAC speech. There aren’t many, that were at CPAC, that have not talked about the overload of Ron Paul Campaign for Liberty Libertarians, mostly of which were 18-25 years old. I wasn’t in the audience, some here were. Who was giving Beck all the applause lines, and standing ovations?

My overall impression about the CPAC convention is that it started out electric and exciting, with Rubio’s speech overwhelmingly successful. Dick Cheney, a surprise guest was warmly received. I’m sure there were many other exciting times there.

Mark Levin posted a facebook page saying he was originally invited to speak in Beck’s spot, but, once he learned that the John Birch society was approved for a booth, he declined. He said that it seemed to be an event catering to the Libertarians.

As exciting as the event started out, from an outside observer, it seems that the finale not only fell flat, but, gave the impression that CPAC hasn’t figured out just who it is, or who it is supporting.

Rush’s speech last year was outstanding. It was uplifting, even in a time when Obama just took office, passed the stimulus, had high approval ratings, and people suspected that his goals would not be good for America. Now that the conservatives are on the move to success, we have a speaker who only wanted to remind us that everyone in DC is bad.

No, not because it’s a frequently repeated oxymoron. Because it’s where we want to direct our ire, yet we don’t get to select the leadership.

Erick wrote,

But it is not the Republican Party that is the problem. It is the Republican leadership that, when it compromises with the Democrats, compromises in favor of expanded government. You never see the Democrats compromise in favor of the free market.

Unfortunately, the individual members make that compromise all too often. Why did Senator Kit Bond, of all people, vote for cloture today? He effectively voted to spend “$15 billion” of our money he didn’t have to spend, and that we don’t have. He needs to explain, AS DOES SEN. SCOTT BROWN. We’ve come to expect this stuff from the Maine twins, so I don’t suppose they need to explain.

By defecting, Brown and Bond allowed Sen. Ben Nelson to Cover His A** and vote against cloture. This is exactly why we and Beck say that Republicans are “part of the problem.” In fact, today five Republicans voted to both Spend AND Tax.

This is not to say all Republicans must think alike, but when it comes to a party fight, they need to be on the same side. This was a big failure on the part of Republicans.

And he gives reasons why he says that.

So, he agrees with Beck.

As conservatives we are gullible and predictable. Less than a year ago we were sick of both parties and were united with Beck’s message. (He never advocated third party btw) However, the closer it gets to election time the conservatives all start puffing up their chests and fighting amongst each other. We start nitpicking and complaining if someone like Beck dare have an opinion on not falling into the same trap with our own party. All it takes is for the democrats to throw in a few words of doubt and the fire is lit that will burn down our ranks and leave the survivors in rubble. And once again the conservatives fall apart stepping on their own shoelaces.

When will we ever learn?

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