With the surprise announcement today of Democratic Senator and former Indiana Governor Evan Bayh retiring, the dynamics dramatically change for the Republicans in Indiana. The DC Republican crowd pushed former Senator Dan Coats into the race last week.
I get that a lot of people will back Dan Coats. I have a lot of respect for Dan Coats. But the man retired in 1998 and then publicly announced he was moving to North Carolina. Then he became a lobbyist.
The GOP needs to change its public image that voters have. It should not be using retired Senators who moved out of the state and become a lobbyist to do that.
We need younger faces and fresher voices. We need guys like Marco Rubio. And we need guys like Marlin Stutzman.
Marlin is pro-life. He supports the second amendment. He will be right on spending. He is a perfect fit for Indiana. His farming background is compelling. He’s voted conservatively in the Indiana legislature.
I believe the GOP can do better and can rebuild and can raise up young conservative leaders. I believe Marlin Stutzman fits the bill and is someone we will not regret rallying behind.
I have given the guy money. He’s got my support. I hope you’ll take a look too. At a time when Republicans poll worse than Democrats, but have, ironically, a chance to take back Congress, we need new guys so that the voters, if the GOP does take back Congress, the voters will not regret the decision.
If you don’t want to browse his website, just take 30 seconds and watch this:
Steve Maley
KnightsofMalta
I agree, Erick
Vegas_Rick (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 1:46PM EST (link)Recycling old war horses may serve some short term goal, but if we’re to regain long-term credibilty, we need young, new faces with conviction.
“God is great, beer is good and people are crazy.”- Billy Currington
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
Much better off bringing up a Joba Chamberlain...
MacAoidh (Diary) Tuesday, February 16th at 10:18AM EST (link)…than signing a 42-year old Roger Clemens in free agency.
No question about it.
Check out MacAoidh’s commentary on Louisiana and national politics at TheHayride.com
Much better off bringing up a Joba Chamberlain...
MacAoidh (Diary) Tuesday, February 16th at 10:18AM EST (link)…than signing a 42-year old Roger Clemens in free agency.
No question about it.
Check out MacAoidh’s commentary on Louisiana and national politics at TheHayride.com
Thanks Erick
angry_white_boy Monday, February 15th at 1:50PM EST (link)We’re working hard to get Marlin’s name out there, and your help is greatly appreciated.
Conservative Blogger in Indiana
I will give Stutzman a serious look
Spiral (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 1:50PM EST (link)I moved to Indiana in the summer of 2008. Richard Lugar is too moderate for my tastes. I want Indiana to be represented by a Jim DeMint style conservative. If Stutzman can convince me that he is that kind of person and that he is electable, in a GOP leaning state, he could very well have my vote in the GOP primaries.
The Obama Bread Lines
The Club For Growth has the race "firmly on our radar"...
MacAoidh (Diary) Tuesday, February 16th at 11:00AM EST (link)…now that Bayh is out of the mix.
http://thehayride.com/2010/02/the-real-race-for-u-s-senate-in-indiana/
Check out MacAoidh’s commentary on Louisiana and national politics at TheHayride.com
According to the article, Tymara
Scope (Diary) Tuesday, February 16th at 11:26AM EST (link)the Dem will have the signatures she will need by noon today. I wonder how much the Republicans helped in making her the Democrat candidate? Now, it will be interesting to see how long she remains the Democrat candidate. The Chicago thug machine is probably on their way to meet with her. They probably have a suitcase full of money with them.
What was meant by this:
Conservative Phantom Monday, February 15th at 1:50PM EST (link)“UPDATE: It appears the deadline to collect 5,000 signatures for the GOP is noon tomorrow. I suspect that means the field will be as it is for the GOP with no additions.”
…in your earlier post?
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It means he doesn't suspect any late entries...
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 1:55PM EST (link)Like Pence.
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
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Pence has reaffirmed that he is staying out.
Brian_Roastbeef (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 2:06PM EST (link)So reports Michelle Malkin at least.
As I stated in the other thread, I’m with the Go Marlin crowd. We no longer have Bayh and his $13 million war chest to contend with. It is now more important that we choose the most principled candidate rather than the one with the most money, or name power, or perceived electability.
Stutzman is young and dynamic. He’s the one that will do the Scott Brown style of campaigning. His only problem is that he is unknown. I guarantee though that if we can get him to win the primary, he’ll be known, and the support (and money) will come to him as much as it would with Coats – likely more enthusiastically.
Its Friday
redtillimdead (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 3:00PM EST (link)You have to issue a declaration of candidacy by tom, and signatures by Friday. 4500 signatures, with 500 in each CD
Nancy Pelosi can kiss my asstroturf.
Thanks Erick
Daniel Horowitz (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 1:54PM EST (link)For taking a closer look at this race and supporting Marlin over Hostettler. While Hosteler is great on a host of issues, he is a weak campaigner who was handily beat by a Democrat. He also holds Ron Paul’s views on foreign policy.
Okay...
rocks Monday, February 15th at 1:56PM EST (link)But did you check to make sure he isn’t a Burfer? Or maybe a member of his family or staff?
Oh, good grief (nt)
RedBeard Monday, February 15th at 2:55PM EST (link)Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.
Threadjack again and I'll ban you (nt)
Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 5:07PM EST (link)RS contributing editor, technical administrator, and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
Read the RedState Posting Rules
Unlikely Voter: Poll Analysis, Election Projection.
“I rejoice that America has resisted.” – William Pitt, the Elder
If youarerefering to me...
rocks Monday, February 15th at 6:52PM EST (link)…then go ahead and ban me. I thought Birtherism was some sort of overarching concern we needed be diligent about. The rule doesn’t apply to candidates?
G'bye
Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 6:58PM EST (link)Can’t say I didn’t give you a fair shake.
RS contributing editor, technical administrator, and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
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Here is the reason to not support Stutzman
jfindl2 (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 2:00PM EST (link)http://www.fec.gov/DisclosureSearch/mapHSCandDetail.do
$6,169 in cash on hand after 6 months, which means he has been building up about $1,028 per month in Cash on hand. Overall, he has raised $117,070, again not a lot of money especially when you are spending almost as much. This is not the sign of a conservative warrior who will lead us to victory, it is the mark of a rank amateur who does not belong in a Senate contest.
I’m a little retread, short and stout. I have no life, I reregister and pout.
The same thing could have been said about Rubio last year...
conservativemusician Monday, February 15th at 3:27PM EST (link)A virtual unknown last year with limited funds, and now he is up in FL over Crist by a sizeable margin and with money bombs coming his way on a regular basis. I would venture to say that RedState had a large part to do with this turnaround in the polls there and the fact that Erick has publicly endorsed Stutzman will start his coffers flowing in Indiana. This may be the shot in the arm he needs to get things going, so don’t sell this guy short so quickly.
jfindl2- You sound like a broken record
Scope (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 4:11PM EST (link)with the freakin’ money thing. With Bayh now gone, it is a great opportunity to get a good young fresh conservative in that Senate seat. As everyone else has said, Rubio was an unknown less than a year ago. No more old fart bags.
Some people just don't want to nominate conservatives (nt)
Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 6:59PM EST (link)RS contributing editor, technical administrator, and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
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“I rejoice that America has resisted.” – William Pitt, the Elder
May be good, but he's not Rubio
RINKER Monday, February 15th at 10:04PM EST (link)Marco Rubio wasn’t a “nobody” a year ago, and Redstate is NOT the reason he has surged. I like redstate, but lets not be full of ourselves. Marco Rubio is a former leader in Florida as a former Speaker of the House. While his name ID wasn’t as high as Charlie Crist’s, he was known by the local grassroots people. Marco is a special candidate, and I firmly believe he will be President one day.
About Stutzman… yeah, he sounds good, but it is a looooong road from farmer to U.S. Senator. I haven’t clicked his sight yet, but has he ever served in any elected office before? While that shouldn’t disqualify him at all, it DOES make it easier to raise money and gain the confidence of those who can make a difference in the race (i.e., the Senate Conservatives Fund, etc.). What are Stutzman’s views about farm subsidies? I’m not for the establishment candidate any more than anyone else, but we can’t just pick the most obscure candidates we can find to prove that point.
Okay, he's a state senator.
RINKER Monday, February 15th at 10:08PM EST (link)Not as obscure as I thought. You should put that in your piece, Erick. That does make a difference.
That must be it
jfindl2 (Diary) Tuesday, February 16th at 9:25AM EST (link)It has to be that, it can’t be I’m pointing out an actual existing weakness in the candidate. I don’t see how stating that a candidate’s fund raising ability is joke makes me hate conservatives.
I’m a little retread, short and stout. I have no life, I reregister and pout.
Not really
RedBeard Tuesday, February 16th at 10:40AM EST (link)It’s your obsession with Stutzman’s bank account that draws attention. To the casual observer, this might possibly suggest that you support another candidate, but can’t come up with substantive issues to back up that support.
Just a guess, of course.
Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.
Stutzman
angry_white_boy Monday, February 15th at 2:01PM EST (link)He’s not a birther and he’s strong on national defense.
Conservative Blogger in Indiana
if he is strong on National Defense a sthis says
larryp Monday, February 15th at 8:20PM EST (link)and protecting the Constitution then I am in. I donated already
anyway
for some reason a lot of people want to scuttle the USA or encourage mass murder of our counbtrymen and women.
Stutzman, Right man. Right message. Right time.
kstutz Monday, February 15th at 2:01PM EST (link)I applaude RedState’s decision. Fresh faces, fresh voices, and fresh ideas are needed. Indiana has the opportunity to lead the Republican party and the nation in bringing in “change”. However, the right kind of change. The changing of Washington D.C., not the changing of America.
Marlin Stutzman is a people’s representative and his record shows it. He keeps his promises to the people as shown on his campaign brochures, He listens to the people and uses that to help guide his decisions, A fourth-generation farmer with true Hoosier values.
Marlin Stutzman is the right man with the right message at the right time. Learn more about him and his campaign at www.gomarlin.com
Would the Stutzman supporters
jfindl2 (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 2:18PM EST (link)please explain how they intend to run a statewide campaign after only having $6k in the bank after 6 months campaigning? It is great that Stutzman up holds all our values, but what about having the ability to run a successful statewide campaign?
I’m a little retread, short and stout. I have no life, I reregister and pout.
Guess we need to send more money
RedBeard Monday, February 15th at 2:54PM EST (link)I keep hearing anti-Stutzman folks repeating the “he ain’t got no money” mantra as if that’s some reason not to support him. Well, the money problem can be fixed. And the thing that is most important, his political philosophy, doesn’t need fixing.
It might be good to reflect upon the fact that it wasn’t long ago that folks were saying, “Marco who?” here in Florida.
Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.
We'll send money, of course....
momofthecastle (Diary) Tuesday, February 16th at 11:26AM EST (link)Now that we now what he needs. The conservatives have already proven that.
Oops,
momofthecastle (Diary) Tuesday, February 16th at 11:27AM EST (link)Now that we KNOW what he needs.
One down, one to go...
lawyersgunsmoney2010 Monday, February 15th at 2:02PM EST (link)With an opportunity like this, shouldn’t we find a fresh face and start from scratch? We think so.
Check out the real Dan Coats:
http://www.vimeo.com/9435517
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Sincerely,
Lawyers, Guns, & Money
Money on the way to Stutzman now
fpete13527 (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 2:13PM EST (link)Great call Erick. My support goes to Stutzman hands down.
We should build the young leadership
youthgrunt (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 2:16PM EST (link)not just thrust them into those positions. There is a big difference between a State Senator and a US Senator.
Stutzman currently represents a State Senate district of about 125,000 people that is a safe Republican district. He is trying to make a jump to a statewide election that–even without Bayh–will be seriously contested. He is not raising money. He thinks that “working hard” is why we should vote for him.
I like his positions and I have seen less qualified folk run for federal office. But that doesn’t mean that he is ready for the task.
Especially when he is running a campaign
jfindl2 (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 2:27PM EST (link)that is not raising money. Less than 200k raised in 6 months, less than 10k in cash on hand.
I’m a little retread, short and stout. I have no life, I reregister and pout.
I think we get your point, jfindl2
RedBeard Monday, February 15th at 3:01PM EST (link)That’s three posts from you in one thread, all telling us not to support Stutzman simply because he doesn’t have a big campaign war chest.
Do you have any substantive reasons for not liking the guy?
Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.
I kept posting b/c up until you
jfindl2 (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 3:11PM EST (link)nobody was responding. This really reminds me of Patrick Hughes in Illinois, everybody was saying, “Oh he is a perfect conservative, we all need to get behind him.” People didn’t pay attention to the bottom line, Hughes had a cruddy campaign organization and couldn’t raise enough funds to compete at a statewide level. The same is true of Marlin Stutzman.
I’m a little retread, short and stout. I have no life, I reregister and pout.
So you kept posting until you found someone to argue with?
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 3:16PM EST (link)Bad form.
But on to you point, Hughes failed because people didn’t rally to him, plain and simple. Stutzman may also fail, but people like you assume it to be a preordained thing.
You assume failure and then you do everything in your power to make it so.
It’s sad.
It doesn’t help anyone, not even Coats.
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat
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Nope I live in reality
jfindl2 (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 3:33PM EST (link)If Patrick Hughes was such a great candidate why didn’t Demint endorse him? Probably b/c Demint only endorses candidates that are organized and stand a chance of winning. Mark Kirk was highly disliked by a lot of conservatives and if Hughes was really a viable alternative he would have gotten more than 20 percent of the vote.
I don’t just assume things out of the blue, there are reasons behind what I say like the fact the FEC figures which show that Marlin is a sideshow. There is also the fact that Mike Pence, who is no slave to the establishment, endorsed Dan Coats.
I’m a little retread, short and stout. I have no life, I reregister and pout.
Nothing you just said contradicts what I said.
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 3:46PM EST (link)And as far as living in reality, well in reality, no vote has yet been cast. That’s reality. Anything beyond that is you looking in a crystal ball.
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat
Follow @Aaron_RS
Get off of the cash fixation
ceili_dancer (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 4:30PM EST (link)Granted the cash on hand is not good , at this moment, but swimming in cash is not the end all of politics. Look at the other side of the Florida race. Crist has a substantial name recognition, a massive war chest, Republican “leadership” endorsement and most of all tanking poll numbers. Where does the cash get him? People can donate to a candidate, but they really can’t change who that person is if they stand true. Bank accounts can go up and down, but if you have no message, or worse, the wrong one, you can’t fix stupid as the saying goes.
Does this at all remind you of the early days of the Brown campaign
Vegas_Rick (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 4:22PM EST (link)in MA? It does me. Sounds a great deal like the early days of Marco Rubio too. If you keep blathering, sooner or later you’ll get a debate.
“God is great, beer is good and people are crazy.”- Billy Currington
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
Great ad.
swami7774 (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 2:17PM EST (link)Very well done. I like the white fence background of the final shot; subtle, one-of-the-people message.
I wouldn’t sweat his lack of money so far. Who would have figured Bayh to have any competition? Stutzman will quickly gain traction if he comes across in person as he does in that ad.
Today, there is a name for the political doctrine that rejoices in scarcity of everything except government. The name is environmentalism.
Stutzman---SHUT UP! Hide! Wait for proper help to arrive!
smagar (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 2:26PM EST (link)Otherwise, you could be the “The Next Scott Brown” (Emphasis added)
I’ll bet ThinkProgress operatives are buying plane tickets to Indiana now. Or driving in from Illinois.
Team Stutzman, be ready! Be careful! Make sure you have good PR advice. If you dont’ have good PR advice now, SHUT UP! Go hunting, fishing, something. Stay out of trouble until reinforcements arrive!
The Dems and their operatives won’t get caught napping a second time.
“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)
Personally, I'm Not in IN, So I Have No Opinion on This Question Now
IJB Monday, February 15th at 2:27PM EST (link)I’m just tired of people claiming that Dan Coats is some Lib, because that’s a bunch of *bull*.
There are reasons for, and against, each of the three GOP candidates in this race. Let’s just try and focus on the *real* differences among them, and not on phony ones…
Stutzman is a proven conservative warrior...
kstutz Monday, February 15th at 2:37PM EST (link)Marlin has consistently stood for conservative values despite strong resistance from liberals. Here’s a sampling:
Stood up for gun owners and authored SR 16 – Indiana Firearms Freedom Act .
Authored- Healthcare Choice and the ability to opt out of the healthcare system
Co-authored Governmen Ethics Reform
AuthoredTraditional Marriage Amendment Resolution
Authored a state soverignty bill?
Is working (and has done in years previous) to eliminate taxpayer funding of abortion (something supported by 65%+ of voters)
Is working (and has done in years previous) to affirm our state sovereignty in the wake of massive Federal Government intrusions
What is Marlin Stutzman's position on free trade?
Spiral (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 2:50PM EST (link)I am a strong free trade supporter. So, I’d like to know Marlin Stutzman’s position on free trade. For example, does he support free trade agreements with South Korea, Columbia and other nations?
The Obama Bread Lines
Stutzman supports US Senate ratifying these kind of agreements.
pilgrim (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 3:25PM EST (link)Here is a link to an article he wrote in May 2009.
http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/05/20/standing-up-for-the-constitution/
Someone spammed a few threads with this link about Coats
Michael Dugas (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 2:54PM EST (link)Though I am not one to let thread jacking go unchallenged this video is pretty darn interesting. Check it out, at first you might think it is pro Coats but it takes a decidedly negative turn pretty quick and has some interesting info. Give it a watch
http://www.vimeo.com/9435517
Intro to Federalist Papers; section 5;
paragraph 4.
“…dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the zeal for a firm and efficient government.”
Remember: A Citizen on the dole is a Liberal Vote at the Polls.
END ENTITLEMENTS!
Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum !
It is also misleading (n/t)
youthgrunt (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 3:32PM EST (link).
Explain How It's Misleading
Michael Dugas (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 7:11PM EST (link)a n/t statement is just that nothing. Explain yourself.
Intro to Federalist Papers; section 5;
paragraph 4.
“…dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the zeal for a firm and efficient government.”
Remember: A Citizen on the dole is a Liberal Vote at the Polls.
END ENTITLEMENTS!
Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum !
No youthgrunt, you don't get to make definitive statements
Vegas_Rick (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 7:42PM EST (link)without at least some justification.
“God is great, beer is good and people are crazy.”- Billy Currington
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
Tea Party Story in the Making
jsanzone (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 2:57PM EST (link)Except for the subdivision image, makes me want to be a Hoosier.
But seriously, if the pressure is kept up high on this primary, it could be a manifestation of a young, fresh, conservative Republican challenging an out of touch, insider, lobbyist. It’s got tea parties written all over it.
If Stutzman kicks his campaign into high gear at the right time, he’s got a good chance to surge in the primaries. It’s all about momentum, and drawing the grassroots support requires studying Scott Brown’s success, Hoffman’s near-success, and the future…successes of Rand Paul and Marco Rubio.
http://www.2010blog.net
20/10 Blog
If the candidates will engage each other
youthgrunt (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 3:39PM EST (link)on issues and the real differences between the candidates, this primary will be very useful for the Republicans here in Indiana. We have several good candidates who have different things to bring to the table.
If we will deal with those differences without overstating them (like the video linked above), then we will have an opportunity to at least get some up and coming Republicans some visibility and be able to choose a really quality candidate for the general election.
If we decide to drag each other into the mud, then we may throw away our advantage and give the Democrats an opening.
OK so you don't respond to direct questions youthgrunt
Michael Dugas (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 9:18PM EST (link)but you’ll reference it later to someone else. You claim the video is misleading but I checked and everything it claimed was pretty much true. Doesn’t do much good lying about a very checkable voting record. So again I ask you, what is misleading about that video?
Just saying it’s misleading without any followup is disingenuous at the least. Maybe the reason you are running away from an answer is that
you don’t have one.
Intro to Federalist Papers; section 5;
paragraph 4.
“…dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the zeal for a firm and efficient government.”
Remember: A Citizen on the dole is a Liberal Vote at the Polls.
END ENTITLEMENTS!
Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum !
Well, I am a Hoosier. And...
LibertarianHawk (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 10:40PM EST (link)…because of the misgivings I have about both Coats and Hostettler (who used to be my Congressman), I guess I’ll cast my lot with Stutzman. I’ll shoot him a donation posthaste.
I can’t say that I’m hopeful that the GOP establishment nut can be cracked here. But, then, I bet a lot of people in Florida, Massachusetts, and New Jersey were incredulous about their upstart insurgent candidates, too.
And I still haven’t forgotten Greg Ballard’s unlikely victory for Indy’s mayor a couple years back.
So here’s one vote (two with my wife) and a little bit of cash for Stutzman! Let’s hope we can do it…because, frankly, I like a total outsider’s chance against somebody like Ellsworth more than an establishment candidate like Coats.
And Ellsworth smoked incumbent Hostettler in 2006 for the 8th district seat. It was something like a 20 point differential, as I recall.
Uh oh
rick554 Monday, February 15th at 3:13PM EST (link)Looks like we have another Rubio or Brown here. I’m off to Marlin’s website. Thanks Eric!
Rick554
Uh oh
rick554 Monday, February 15th at 3:13PM EST (link)Looks like we have another Rubio or Brown here. I’m off to Marlin’s website. Thanks Eric!
Rick554
No more "scorched earth."
toughintn (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 3:19PM EST (link)I have great respect for your appreciation for this candidate. He’s an up-and-comer. Time will tell if he’s reached the stature to actually win this race.
You kindly said:
“I have a lot of respect for Dan Coats.”
I’ll be glad to take that at face value, because you are a sincere conservative.
However, for the sake of your reputation as a man of scholarship, you need to admit you got a little carried away in the past post (“Evan Bayh to Retire”), in saying that Democrat Ellsworth is to the right of Coats on the pro-life issue. It was reckless and not grounded in fact.
You will only be hurting your guy, Stutzman, by being less than forthright in the future about his competition. You do not have to annihilate Coats or anyone else in the Republican primary if Stutzman is strong enough to win on his own. If you have to use those tactics, your choice looks weak.
We all have to make sure the Republicans win in November, and we cannot hurt those chances conducting ourselves unwisely as a party in the next few months. We need a candidate standing strong when the primary is over — not limping into the general election because of wounds inflicted by other conservatives. If we use a “scorched earth” policy against each other, we will hand the election to the Democrats.
I don't know if I agree with you on the whole "Scorched Earth" Scenario
Michael Dugas (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 3:50PM EST (link)I think pre-primary all’s fair. As far as putting info and opinion out there to encourage people to your side, that’s what it’s all about. And as far as Coats goes the guys a schmuck when it comes to the 2nd Amendment and he may shout to the tree tops that he’s pro life but decisions have consequences and as a pro life individual myself I could never have voted to allow Sonia SotoMayor to the federal bench
without realizing the effect such a judge could have. I’ll leave the lobbying for some one else, though it raises a whole series of questions on its own.
Intro to Federalist Papers; section 5;
paragraph 4.
“…dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the zeal for a firm and efficient government.”
Remember: A Citizen on the dole is a Liberal Vote at the Polls.
END ENTITLEMENTS!
Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum !
Scorched earth in the primary = political suicide in the general election.
toughintn (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 4:28PM EST (link)Smart Republicans don’t defeat themselves; they save the nuclear option for their real enemies. Ronald Reagan was smart like that.
Notice I said in the VERY first sentance Pre Primary!
Michael Dugas (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 7:09PM EST (link)n/t
Intro to Federalist Papers; section 5;
paragraph 4.
“…dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the zeal for a firm and efficient government.”
Remember: A Citizen on the dole is a Liberal Vote at the Polls.
END ENTITLEMENTS!
Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum !
I think you're splitting hairs.
toughintn (Diary) Tuesday, February 16th at 9:47AM EST (link)There’s no meaningful difference between pre-primary and primary, but divide and conquer if you wish. It won’t have the desired result.
I like it.
itrytobenice (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 3:38PM EST (link)This is the kind of guy who can get the grassroots fired up and back to the voting booth.
I hope the people of IN give Stutzman a chance.
Proper grammar saves lives.
Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.
One additional reason to like Stutzman
RedBeard Monday, February 15th at 3:49PM EST (link)He farms with equipment of the correct color.
Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.
RedBeard- It's time for good ole Johnny Deer
Scope (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 4:22PM EST (link)to change their color. Green has always been my favorite color, that is until Goregoyle took it over.
It's a different green
RedBeard Monday, February 15th at 4:25PM EST (link)Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.
What happens to Bayh's 13 million?
gracie (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 4:23PM EST (link)Does it go to the Dem nominee?
There is a redhot post speculating
redneck_hippie (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 4:30PM EST (link)on a possible presidential run in ’12.
I knew that
gracie (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 5:04PM EST (link)I didn’t know if the money was given for this particular race.
Thanks for enlightening me.
Stutman appeals to me as a grass-roots guy
honoroldglory Monday, February 15th at 5:14PM EST (link)I was leaning towards John Hostettler, since he has proved himself on an issue that is critical to me — illegal immigration. When candidates talk about “border security” that is almost like “Mom and apple pie.” I want to know if candidates will be willing to be vocal opponents to ILLEGAL immigration and advocates for finishing the actual (not virtual) southern border fence, which has so many gaps it is like Swiss cheese. I like what I read on Stutzman’s website about his positions on opposing amnesty, etc. It is crucial to send a true conservative to the Senate. Dan Coats may be a nice guy, but he is a lobbyist and moved out of state.
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Jim DeMint looking at Stutzman?
KeepOhioRed (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 6:48PM EST (link)Just got an email from DeMint’s Senate Conservatives Fund. They are now looking at this race as a pickup opportunity, quote Erick as supporting Stutzman, and are conducting an online poll.
Go here:
http://senateconservatives.com/v1/index.php?p=post&id=78
Ot- Hear the Sen Mikulski(Da) of MD is quitting/nt
larryp Monday, February 15th at 8:23PM EST (link)if true I guess it is a positive
Doc Holliday (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 8:30PM EST (link)MD is a Red State dominated by the huge Dem Machine of Baltimore and PG county. Very very hard for a Repub to win, the left will let dead Dems vote.
Molon Labe!
I agree this was a great call by Erick
itsjoanne Monday, February 15th at 9:38PM EST (link)Hopefully a DeMint endorsement will be coming soon. Marlin is currently leading by a huge margin in DeMint’s poll.
As for Stutzman’s lack of funds…. the same can be said of ALL of them in the race.
And I have a feeling Marlin’s going to be raising a lot of money from this day forward.
Stutzman has the support of 83%
texasgalt (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 10:33PM EST (link)of the 2200 who have responded to the poll at Senate Conservatives (as of evening, 2/15). Great looking TeaPublican candidate. This is the way to do it. Energized conservatives leading the Republican party from the grass roots up.
Dan Coats (R)
56 2.5%
John Hostettler (R)
149 6.8%
Marlin Stutzman (R)
1815 83.1%
Don Bates, Jr. (R)
44 2.0%
Undecided
118 5.4%
The Indiana GOP flubbed this.
LibertarianHawk (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 10:33PM EST (link)What nobody’s really saying is that most people here — including most Republicans — expected Bayh to run and win again.
I think Pence offered the best chance to unseat Bayh. But he demurred for the reason he said: he has his eye on a good leadership post for a bolstered House GOP.
Then Secretary of State Todd Rokita flirted with it and was either rebuffed by the party or decided that a House seat was more realistic than beating Bayh, (depending who you listen to).
So Dan Coats was resurrected. And it wouldn’t surprise me to learn that he hasn’t stepped foot in this state since he left the US Senate. He was a name known around the state and wasn’t a rogue powder keg like John Hostettler.
Well, I’ve got news for everybody: both Sen. Coats and Rep. Hostettler are weak candidates. And I’d be floored if Stutzman goes anywhere. Not displeased — just floored.
I can’t understand why the GOP couldn’t get a better candidate — even somebody like state treasurer Richard Mourdock (who unsuccessfully sued the federal government over the Chrysler bailout and has addressed several Tea Party gatherings).
Even with Bayh out, I wouldn’t be putting this one in the W column just yet. If Ellsworth runs, he’ll be a formidable candidate.
Senate Conservatives Fund Indiana online poll
jstjoan (Diary) Monday, February 15th at 10:48PM EST (link)I recieved an email this evening from SCF inviting me take a poll on the Indiana race so SCF knows who we want them to support. I selected Stutzman and was then shown the results:
Which candidate do you support in the 2010 Indiana Senate race?
Dan Coats (R) 57 2.5%
John Hostettler (R) 169 7.4%
Marlin Stutzman (R) 1866 82.4%
Don Bates, Jr. (R) 46 2.0%
Undecided 125 5.5%
No Response(s)
Totals 2263 100%
Three questions that destroy most Liberal arguments according to Thomas Sowell:
1. Compared to what?
2. At what cost?
3. What hard evidence do yo have?
Hear, hear. Let's not get foolish...
saltlick Tuesday, February 16th at 7:17AM EST (link)…like the Dems did over the past year, just because it looks like things are going our way.
If we use a “scorched earth” policy against each other, we will hand the election to the Democrats.
Because THIS is exactly what they are counting on — an opposition that can’t unite behind challengers.
I agree with you Eric
ihateliberals Tuesday, February 16th at 9:17AM EST (link)I am 62 and i have been a conservative all of my life as far back as i can remember. we have had some great leaders. Now it is time to have some younger conservative leaders in the party and in the
House and Senate. We need people that can counter the young liberal left. They come out of college not having lived and paid their way for anything and think the government should start taking care of them. Young conservatives understand that if you want something then you have to work for it. there are no free rides.
Right ideas
dmartin Tuesday, February 16th at 9:39AM EST (link)Wrong order. Good guy but he needs to stay at the state level. I am a strong fiscal conservative but believe strongly that social issues should be left up to the states. Item one on Stutzmans’ issues page is abortion, government spending doesn’t make the list untill number ten.
The clear and present threat to our country is fiscal not social, we had better get our priorities in order.
Being a states' rights kinda guy, I agree, but...
RedBeard Tuesday, February 16th at 9:47AM EST (link)…since the federal government bullied its way into the abortion issue, it now has to be addressed at that level.
Best eventual outcome is to overturn Roe, and have the states assume their rightful roles again.
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And yet again, I failed to hit the correct reply button
RedBeard Tuesday, February 16th at 9:48AM EST (link)This was a reply to dmartin.
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