That kind of paranoia doesn’t really lead to anything fruitful. We have far more important, doable arguments to discuss without descending into that craziness.

it is Obama’s dishonesty and secrecy that are behind the Birth Certificate controversy. However, in the context of the TEA Party movement, that controversy is IRRELEVANT. While people that question the veracity of the Birth Certificate may actually have some good questions (I don’t know, myself.), the subject is not one that belongs as a TEA Party concern.

Face it, the Birth Certificate problem is now moot. He’s President.

Because of gross incompetence?

but can I still believe in Manchurian Candidates?

But you’re right, too much about their being here and people’s responses to them can be cherry-picked and taken out of context. But I’d still really, really, really like to see His school records.

Thank you for saying what so many of us have been thinking the past 48 hours. Nothing could be more damaging to the gains we have made the past 12 months than the internal rot that is the Birther/Truther Movement. Lets not forget that just 10 months ago the main stream media was pronouncing Conservatism DEAD!

Nice statement of a line of demarcation. Look, most of these claims are ludicrous, and if you want to air them out, there are plenty of places for you to do so. But redstate, among the most mainstream conservative sites, has a larger agenda, and should geared as such.

While it’s easy to point the finger elsewhere, we — Red State included — are making our own bed, here. You can’t let the tiger out of the box, hold a steak in front of him and then complain when he goes on a rampage.

This phenomenon isn’t limited to the Birthers. You might want to consider that going forward.

Good call. Those groups are ridiculous, and they undermine everything good we are working toward.

Birther baggage is a distracting waste of political energy and capital.

When you say that tea party activists have rallied to Debra Medina, we’re really looking at 24% of them. 51% supported Perry, and that was before Medina’s monumental meltdown on Glenn Beck.

http://www.empowertexans.com/tea_parties_volume_versus_principles

You have to believe in all of the Constitution, not just the parts that you like.

Did FOX tell you to write this so you could still be a guest on Hannity’s panel?

with legitimate third party movements. They are a magnet for nutjobs and that is a shame.

with legitimate third party movements. They are a magnet for nutjobs and that is a shame.

the comments are bad enough themselves, but, when a thread grows long with some trying to rationalize with them, or even play with them, it makes the site look really bad. It is especially bad when they start spouting that it’s free speech, and that this site does not allow free speech or alternative view points. Don’t even give them the opportunity to claim what they believe their rights are to begin with.

I agree that the birthers and truthers are unfortunate sideshows to the tea party movement in particular, and the resurgence of conservatism in general. It does take away from the issues that really matter at best, and allows the so-called mainstream media to ignore/marginalize us at worse. While there seems to be a variety of conservative viewpoints here, I think just about all of us subscribe to some core beliefs. Thinking that BHO was born in Kenya and that the CIA was involved in taking out the twin towers are not part of those beliefs.

Good call Erick.

“Just because someone is stridently against the size of government does not make him an ally if he also believes the U.S. Army blew up the World Trade Center. Such a person brings disrepute on us all, deservedly so. ”

You remind me of a conversation I had with someone once in a forum regarding Global Warming. The fully believed global warming to be a lie. I was happy with that. But then, for some reason in he evolution of the conversation, they had to go and declare: “vaccines are responsible for the increase in the number of children with autism.”

This person’s fully valid claims regarding AGW were completely thrown out the window with this statement. We only injure our message by allowing those on our side to make outrageous claims.

And I say this all as one who would have been considered a birther not too long ago.

of political capital.

Even if BO wasn’t really an American, that wouldn’t help us with the fight against our Marxist Congress.

Banned from RedState!

Wise Move, Eric.

So, does this mean you are off Joe Farah’s mailing list? One can only hope.

We can only effect long-lasting, fundamental change in this country by convincing the American people their lives are best served by a smaller and more accountable government that harvests less taxes.

The “birfers” want to accomplish the equivalent of a coup, which would lead to political chaos and undermine our political system.

since before the 2008 election.

The website pushes various books about the non-issue: as a capitalist, Farah has tapped into an issue that sells with a certain constituency, but marginalizes his company.

Of interest is that Pat Buchanan still lets them use his column, but he is a capitalist too!

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=124847

In contrast:
When NewsMax had a columnist/blogger wonder in print about a possible military coup against the Incompetent-in-Chief, Newsmax promptly dropped him.

Since I have seen the guy who does the oil changes on Scott Brown’s truck and Sarah Palin’s little baby has to endure the utmost disrespect, I really would like to know how Obama is doing with his cigarette habit and I would like to see his college transcripts. He and his wife want me to quit eating cheese burgers or something and he cannot even quit butts and nobody talks about it. He is a “genius” but he hides his report cards like a kid who flunked spelling. We have a big giant elephant in the Obama living room and it is “Man , get real!”

Thanks for this Erick.

I could not agree more. The stakes are too high to let these lunes take the spotlight. Obama and the left have given us plenty of policies to use against them, so leave all this nonsense out.

Thank you Erick for your efforts to keep this forum from becoming a loony bin.

but I do not understand the nastiness when people are just trying to discuss and learn something. After all some of us were not here to read the discussion when you all came to your decisions. Let me be clear…I agree with the 9-11 truther position that you take…it’s a no brainer!

And OK earlier this week through the little bit of discussin that was allowed I learned Some of the why you are so rabid about the birther issue. I just don’t see why I should be called a kook or a crazy for asking a question about the dual citizenship issue with regards to the constitution.

Before you say good bye..I want to say I have just as much heart and energy for this fight back to conservatism as the rest of you. And I have learned so much from reading here. But I am not a nut job just because I have a question. What a waste to run me off simply for wanting to learn.

This subject has been driving me crazy ove the past year. I don’t know how easy/hard it will be to keep the birfer/truthers off the stage at Tea Party events but I think this post is a call to all who attend to BOOOOOOO! those who spout this crap right off the stage. SERIOUSLY. Only then will they get the message.

Will the MSM report that they were booooed. No, they may never do that but the “New Media” will and for now WE are the ones in control of accurate info for the most part.

Nuts and Looneys will always exist. The majority of the Tea Party participants need to become the “filter” that separates themselves from the rest of the movement.

As unpalatable as it must be to ban opposing points of view, there comes a time to clean the nuts from the blog in order to maintain credibility.

I was profoundly disappointed that Farah was given a forum from which to spout his ‘birfer’ nonsense. That’s exactly the sort of thing with which the Progressives would like to taint us, and thereby consign us to the political wilderness.

Red state can certaintly take this stance, and its probably a wise move. Those that believe the US government had something to do with the world trade center are not nuts, but they just hate America and what it stands for. Those that believe Obama might be ineligible for president probably will get nowhere with this whether true or not. So best to move to other issues.

However, using words like crazies and nuts to describe those who question Obama’s eligibility does Red State and many of the contributors a disservice. These people care about the Constitution. That makes them nuts? Likely nothing will come of their concern but why insult them? You can disagree without that. You really want to compare them to people who proclaim Washington brought down the Twin Towers? You can say it keeps us from moving in other directions. But again it looks like we are scared to death what the left thinks of us.

I wish you had written this a bit differently. When it comes to the so called “birthers” they at least care about their country and the Constitution. That cannot be said of the so called “truthers”. Lets be professional about it. Red State can do better.

Red state can certaintly take this stance, and its probably a wise move. Those that believe the US government had something to do with the world trade center are not nuts, but they just hate America and what it stands for. Those that believe Obama might be ineligible for president probably will get nowhere with this whether true or not. So best to move to other issues.

However, using words like crazies and nuts to describe those who question Obama’s eligibility does Red State and many of the contributors a disservice. These people care about the Constitution. That makes them nuts? Likely nothing will come of their concern but why insult them? You can disagree without that. You really want to compare them to people who proclaim Washington brought down the Twin Towers? You can say it keeps us from moving in other directions. But again it looks like we are scared to death what the left thinks of us.

I wish you had written this a bit differently. When it comes to the so called “birthers” they at least care about their country and the Constitution. That cannot be said of the so called “truthers”. Lets be professional about it. Red State can do better.

We don’t want RS to be distracted from our main issues which for me is limited government and MY / OUR pursuit of happiness.

Let’s stop all these misdirected progressives in all branches of government.
It’s working fairly well lately. They are melting down…

What is it about irrational conspiracy theories that is so seductive to some people? There must be some emotional satisfaction involved, or a feeling of empowerment.

There is just something so strange about birther and truther argumentation. It’s sad really. And quite the distraction.

menu of conspiracies, the better off we are.

You’re protecting RS integrity as a credible source and conserving bandwith as well.

This is not unexpected considering the fiasco of the Paulite incursion. To have tolerated the nonsense now would have sullied the image and blunted the message and our goals.

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but may not be welcome here anymore because Iam a medina supporter. If you go to her web page she says she is not a truther. Is this a blog for the established republican party or for true conservatives whoever they may be.

The initial interest in this issue was not unfounded. The fundamental question arises under Article II. It was triggered by the posting of a false birth certificate on his website,. Thereafter instead of coming clean he spent $1.7 M to disclosure of a document which most of us would freely produce in response to a legitimate request. I spoke to one of the top investigative reporters in the country and he was very interested in the subject at that time. Two district courts have ruled that the public lacks standing to raise the issue, so they did not reach the ultimate question. For me the dispositive evidence was the statement by the state of Hawaii and a contemporaneous announcement in that Hawaiian Newspapers vital statistics section. If he was born in the United States then there must be some other reason why he would spend so much money to hide the birth certificate, The most likely possibility is it would reveal that the identity of his parents is not what he has represented. He does not want the public to know that. But for the representations in the book, I do not think it matters to most people, You cannot choose who your parents are. I have a friend who is going through an analogous situation to this except he does not know who his parents are and wants to know. We are going to old census records and fragmented recollections of those relatives who are still willing, Many families have theser secrets and they invent family stories to cover them up. Some people want the truth and others do not. I think we have to respect the wishes of the individual in that instance,

So where does this leave RedState with regards to birther politicians and candidates? Will RS support JD Hayworth? I know RS is endorsing Karen Handel in GA-GOV race, but what about Rep. Nathan Deal in the meantime?

I refuse to support anybody who gives the slightest indication that they might be a birther.

VB

A WARNING TO THE TEA PARTY NATION
http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin569.htm
A WARNING TO THE TEA PARTY NATION
By Chuck Baldwin
February 12, 2010
NewsWithViews.com
Please read this article especially towards the bottom Chuck talks of the warnings about Perry, Palin and Beck and praises Medina !!!
Chuck Baldwin states “Medina is committed to preserving Texas’ independence and sovereignty. She is opposed to the Patriot Act. She will secure the Texas border. She will give Texas Vermont-style open carry freedoms for gun owners. She wants to get rid of unconstitutional property taxes in Texas. She will stop the NAFTA superhighway. Medina is the real deal. “

“Banning” is too much like Fascism or Communism to me.

Are these people idiots? Well I have a bit of a problem with equating “Truthers” and “Birthers”. Truthers believe their own country knocked down the twin towers. Birthers believe that Obama didn’t properly prove his citizenship. There’s a lot of “green space” between those two types of thought and, in my opinion … “truthers” are much more sinister than “birthers”.

That said … why ban either? Why not just let rational people make up their minds about these two groups on their own? Banning is a form of censureship for the purpose of “controlling” a message so that readers are steered to one conclusion. The East Anglia guys “banned” Global Warming skeptics. Liberals shout down conservatives on college campuses. I just don’t think that, as conservatives, we should adopt those tactics. I was always taught that on a fair playing field – the truth always wins out. You cannot have a “fair” playing field while you’re excluding other points of view from taking the field. This is one of the principle differences between liberals and conservatives – conservatives believe that people are smart enough to recognize the truth on their own.

Now … as far as the tea party getting a bad name – remind me … who here is responsible for the “Tea Party Message”? Can anyone point me to the Public Relations department of the “Tea Party”? Is there one guy or gal I can go to for answers on what the Tea Party’s position on specific issues are?

No … there is no one here responsible for the Tea Party Message. The beautiful thing about the Tea Party Message is that it can’t be specifically defined. If you ask me – and I’m a part of the movement – I’d tell you it’s really a “Liberty Movement” … and “Liberty” means that government gets the hell out of our lives and lets us live and believe the way we wish. That means that if you want to believe that Barack Obama isn’t a citizen based on the evidence and what your mind is telling you – then that’s fine. You have just as much right to make that conclusion as I do to say that the matter is solved.

The Tea Party has nothing to fear from “birthers”. What the Tea Party has to fear – is falling into the narrow confines of belief that some people want to FORCE it into. It’s a movement of the people – and people have diferent views.

And that’s the way it SHOULD be.

Comparing 9/11 truthers to “birthers” is your first mistake. They are not close to the same kind of people, nor is the way they arrive at conclusions similar.

Have you annointed yourself as the leader of the Tea Party movement. Maybe you should just apply for a gig at NRO. It’s clear you are just trying to move up the ladder; let us know when you get to join David Brooks at the New York Times. Banning people, that’ so American of you.

Separating ourselves from the crazies is always a difficult process. Not too long ago I was at a small rally regarding illegal immigrants. Most of us there were just regular people with no larger agenda, we just were sick of the flood of criminals coming across our southern border. But there was a larger group of white power/neo-nazi types also there. While I agreed with them on the immigration problem, I disagreed with them on everything else. Unfortunately, there were members of our small group that were friends with or integrated in with their group as well. So it was very difficult for one group of people to say “we’re not with them. They don’t represent us.” As far as passers by could tell we were all one group.

This is a good move by Erick. We need to separate ourselves from the crazies.

I’m neither a birther nor truther, but I can see its a hot button issue for some people. If Erick wants to ban ‘em there should be no problem. Its his site and can ban purple bullfrogs with dimples if he wants. But I am confused on the candidate question. Its obviously going to be a reoccuring theme as more and races get heated up. Personally , If there are two candidates running, and my homework shows one is fiscally conservative and will be more likely to curtail government growth while the other wants to make sure the government has a hand in everything from yard sale signs to taxing what I buy on the net, yeah I’ll probably go with the birther and hope they keep that skeleton in their closet down the road. Everyone’s nutty about something.

JUST KIDDING!!!

These people just take up column space and do their best to make the right look like a bunch of loons. Distancing yourselves from them is the only thing you can do. The ones whining about censorship and free speech on a private site don’t really understand the concepts very well do they?

with the new policy of RS. It is well within their rights to open or close this forum to whoever they wish. In fact, I would go as far as saying Erik has the right to ban anyone who disagrees with anything he believes in. And while that may cause the site to drift into nothingness, it is his right.

But, the trend on this site by some has changed from open discussion to insults. I have seen quite a few comments that resemble Liberal sites in their context. I have seen people called idiots on here for not agreeing with anothers statement. Even some of the comments on here are way past civil. Truthers being called un-American? Why because they believe the government is corrupt and capable of doing something like 9-11. While I believe the whole truther movement is ludicrous, I would never call them un-American as I try to have more class and tact than the scum on the liberal boards. Maybe more should try to do the same.

Ronald Reagan is a conservative icon. He is considered by most right of center, myself included, to be one of the great presidents in this country. Yet many of his beliefs were absurd. One example, his and his wifes belief in the power of Astrology. Fortune telling, moon lining up with Venus type crap, yet as a whole he was one of the greatest. How many in this movement would be OK with him telling us his beliefs on some of the boards without resorting to the all dreaded ban threat or the name calling.

My point is, I do not buy into either of the beliefs, I believe any private site has the right to control who is on their site, I think too many on here spend too much time on liberal sites and have had the disresepect mentality rubbed on to them, I believe many truthers and birfers make their beliefs way to up front and center but that does not mean all act like that, BUT I also believe to alienate all who buy into those beliefs is way to similar to tactics used by leftist groups. By all means limit or even eliminate that type of belief speech, but to eliminate those who believe 90% the same way as the rest of us do but only differ on such an insignificant belief is borderline to what we see in movements such as the Global warming crowd, PETA, greenpeace, etc and does not belong in the group that claims to be about individual rights.

Erik is right that there are much more pressing issues at hand than a certificate, he is right that this site is not about those issues, but to ban those who buy into those beliefs and who are willing to leave them at the door to me seems heavy handed and more belonging to the left.

March in lockstep and only post a comment if it is in 100% praise and agreement of this site’s poo-bahs, or be banned. Erick and company don’t want a healthy discussion of ideas among like-minded conservatives. They want a sycophantic chorus of yes-men where dissent is not just intolerable, but banned in a barely concealed rage. With friends on the conservative side like the poo-bahs here, who needs enemies? Feel free to ban at will. At least have the guts to keep my comment up. That is all.

It appeared out of no where recently all of these diaries and comments which brought the crazies out of the woodwork and I am glad to see you have brought the can or RAID for them to take back to their nests

Revision on Obama’s birth certificate is 11/01. Why is that? I don’t know for sure where he was born, and I don’t agree that spending a lot of time on it will be productive, but that doesn’t make me a crazy birther to point out that it’s pretty hard for a birth certificate of someone born in the 1960s to be authenticated by a certificate with a revision date of November 2001. OK now that is all.

Finally a rock-solid sanity clause here……. Oh wait, there ain’t no sanity clause for me….. I’m Jewish !

The truther and birther issues are NOT the ball, they are the hotdog vendor.

Erick, I think this was absolutely the right decision and the mark of wisdom and seriousness.

What we need to do is oppose, expose and depose this evil, corrupt ideology.

Even if they could play out their ultimate birther dream scenario and deliver some kind of dramatic “proof” of their assertion, it is still a huge loss for America and a huge distraction from the real issues.

We need to be exposing corruption, highlighting the consequences of statism and warning people about the anti-human progressive ideology.

So even if you have questions, even if you think it is plausible or even if you just don’t understand why the issue is toxic, have the moral clarity to put it down and step away. Funnel your energy and your desire for justice into something useful for our country, not something wasteful and self indulgent.

The line is drawn.

it was so simple and fun to label conservatives as birther/truther idiots.

I read this site to get an idea of what the Right is talking about and to check your thoughts against my more Liberal leanings. We shall never agree on many things but the need to disavow the nutters is universal and your efforts in this arena are to be applauded.

So now I’m forced to read for content and not comedy.

“In any scenario, Obama had at least one black parent, and if it is not Obama Sr., who then is it? Obama offers a possible clue in Dreams:

I was intrigued by old Frank, with his books and whiskey breath and the hint of hard-earned knowledge behind the hooded eyes. The visits to his house always left me feeling vaguely uncomfortable, though, as if I were witnessing some complicated, unspoken transaction between the two men, a transaction I couldn’t fully understand. The same thing I felt whenever Gramps took me downtown to one of his favorite bars, in Honolulu’s red-light district.

The “Frank” in question is Frank Marshall Davis, a black communist, pornographer, and poet who had abandoned Chicago for Hawaii. In “Pop,” it should be noted, the Pop character “recites an old poem” just before the reconciliation and reeks of whiskey. Davis would have been in his mid-seventies at the time. Some have theorized that Davis, in fact, is Obama’s father and the “Pop” of the poem. This theory, though tenuous, cannot be ruled out. A grandson can look more like his maternal grandfather than his father. That happens. And then, too, there is Davis’s Chicago connection.”

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/another_look_at_obamas_origins.html

The Birfersand & Truthers do not help anything but the MSM and the Left in portraying all conservatives as Conspiracy Nutjobs. If you want that go to Alex Jones conspiracy site and help them find all the coffins.
Red State should not be a sounding board for these ridiculous conspiracy theories.

Banish the Trufers and Birfers to MSNBC where they belong.

This should make life much easier for moderators as well.

If we expect to be taken seriously we ought to act and sound like we’re serious. Anyone still left in the birfer camp is either willfully ignorant or irredeemably crazy, either of which makes such person a major hindrance to us going forward. Good riddance.

Doesn’t matter. Mine is made of titanium alloy with a copper mesh screen inside, to block all possible thought control rays coming from the grassy knoll in the middle of Area 51, which we all know is controlled by the Masons for the purpose of turning us all into power sources for the Matrix.

I am not a birther or a truther, but I do not believe in censoring the views of others. Medina has stated again and again she is not a truther – and she has always been true to her word. But Conservatives are always quick to throw their own under the bus. “Makaka” anyone?

I was a Glenn Beck fan until his disgraceful interview yesterday and I was a Redstate fan until you decided to go along with this smear campaign.

To those of you in Texas…educate yourself on the issues, watch the two gubernatorial debates and then decide. You would think as a Conservative I would be used to being called “crazy”, and “racist”. Oldest trick in the book. But I really expected a little more depth from RedState before you jumped on this “truther” bandwagon.

And to Mr. Beck, you believe that Joseph Smith was given golden plates by angels that only he could read with special divine goggles? See…two can play at that nasty game…

I agree that dwelling on O’s citizenship is a waste of time and I do not believe that he was born outside the U.S. That being said there are many things that would point to him not being eligible to be president, his adoption and probable Indonesian citizenship, his travel to Afghanistan at a time that you could not travel there on a U.S. passport, and his probable use of foreign citizenship to get admission and student loans for college.
However, all documents relevant to any of these charges are lost, destroyed, or locked up tighter than a drum. He is president and to shout about these things does noone any good what-so-ever. I DO hope that we find the answers someday but I, for one, can wait until he is safely out of office, and let investigative reporters tackle the job of seeing whats under the rocks that O has laid down

n/t

the 2nd and 10 Amendments be banned next?

I agree with Eric’s decision to ban both truthers and birthers, but I am concerned that he left the impression that truthers and birthers are morally equivalent. There is a huge difference between the two. Please, Eric, clarify.

I like what Third Street said about this:

“Birthers” and “Truthers” are not comparable to one another. Truthers, for whatever sick reasons, attempt to deny something that every single one of us saw happen with our own eyes, an event whose particulars have ample facts, evidence, and documentation of all sorts backing it up. Birthers, on the other hand, sprung up as a result of a vacuum of available facts, and deliberate attempts to hide public records. You don’t have to believe Obama was born in Kenya to wonder just what the heck is going on with the sealing of BCs and college transcripts, and everyone I know, friends and family alike, who know about this concealment and are level-headed, down-to-earth conservatives, does wonder what the heck is going on with that, though it isn’t exactly a frequent topic of conversation.

so the event put on by the Tea Party Nation in Nashville doesn’t represent a national movement. The Tea Party movement is, for the most part, local and state based as it should be. By calling this national they were just inviting criticism of the entire movement. I watched PJTV’s coverage of the speech by Joseph Farah where he talked about Obama’s birth certificate. What was worse than his statement was the crowd’s reaction when they cheered in agreement. The MSM is going to denigrate this movement regardless because it scares the hell out of them. Vigilance is definitely the key in keeping the whack-job groups from trying to latch on.

Your post is straight out of the Charles Johnson school of blogging whereby the host is smarter than his readers. I am not a truther and technically not a birther because I do not dwell on the refusal of the President to release his records, including details of his schooling and about his birth.

But neither can I simply dismiss my dismay of Presidential secrecy because Erick Erickson said I must. I got banned by Chuckles for a comment much milder than this, so I am not much concerned about what you might do.

Successful bloggers need to step back and consider how the readers are affected by Jack Boot tactics. Even the note at the bottom of this comment box is offensive to me. so I will tell you what I intend to do.

I will remove RedState from my blog favorites and I will somehow find interesting reading at sites where the the blogger does not step on the First Amendment. Like CJ, you can revel in the comments of your fan base. Charles now has Conservatives turned Progressive. I am not sure where you are headed, but i don’t much care.

Their dropping like fleas from the dirty dogs they just laid down with.

(Per MSNBC)

Please don’t! I fear the ban hammer.

I will hereby refer to the President as not eligible for the presidency based on his incompetence and not on the questionable circumstances of his burf, considering his birth certification seems not to be in question?!?!? So, do I get banned now because after writing that I have no idea what I just said?!?!? Hitting the JD a little too hard tonight! hiccup!

Very good, vigilance and cleaning up a bit will do a great deal of good in the long run.

I’m a birfer BUT I’m also a realist. Hypothetical: Joseph Farah proves that President Obama is not a citizen, like yesterday. Next step? Impeachment! Yea, right. I’m holding my breath for that one. Fact of the matter is, it will probably take the election of 2010 AND the election of 2012 to get enough representatives seeing it our way to get an impeachment and then it is an iffy proposition. Can anyone say William Jefferson Clinton? Why wast the energy when you can just wait and vote him out of office.

As far as banning someone, anyone, from a web site (your web site) I’m OK with that. Your web site, your rules. The ancient Greeks said “Without Law There Can be no Freedom.” That just doesn’t apply to countries and governments but to work places, movie theaters and web sites, too. You got my vote!

Webmaster: http://www.maricopagop.org/

Because I believe that Congress must call a Constitutional convention to establish the definition of the words “natural born citizen.” Because I believe that no state has the right to its own definition of “natural born citizen” thereby giving each the ability to confer Presidential eligibility on anyone the please.