But I Thought the Canadian System Was So Much Better


A Canadian Premier is coming to the U.S. for heart surgery. A Premier is like a Governor.

We keep hearing how terrible and awful the American health care system is compared to the Canadian one. So why is he coming here?


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Oh my god....

NeoKong (Diary) Monday, February 1st at 10:24PM EST (link)

That’s like the premier of China coming here for a decent egg roll.
It must be pretty bad when even someone with his clout skips town for medical help.

On another subject if I may.
Your good buddy Chuckie J. has you on the front page. Apparently he has a little problem with some CPAC bloggin’ stuff or something.
He can be so mean.

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Hey the Canadian Health Care System Is the best!

Michael Dugas (Diary) Monday, February 1st at 10:28PM EST (link)

They have the very best waiting lists of any country anywhere. Yep it’s a real honor to be on one of the finest waiting lists in all the land.

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paragraph 4.
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Never hurts to revisit classics: 'The Nightmare From Up There'

Return to Revolution (Diary) Monday, February 1st at 10:35PM EST (link)

Perhaps he’s related to Belinda Stronach: Former Canadian politician, champion of socialized medicine for thee, not me

http://bit.ly/5HVS7a

Out of hand Constitutional fetishist

Socialized med. ok for us, not "them"

fleta Tuesday, February 2nd at 10:41AM EST (link)

This sounds like our own congress who chose to “exempt” themselves from the massive healthcare plan they chose for the rest of us. If it was so wonderful, why didn’t they just jump at the chance to enroll. Since WHEN has the employee had a better plan than the employer. I guess they forgot who pays their salaries…..now that most of the jobs have gone to China and more folks are out of work in the US, we might have to give a lot of them the same pink slips THAT we, their employers have received.

A letter to the Senators from Oregon

martyinaz Tuesday, February 2nd at 10:49PM EST (link)

Hon. Earl Blumenauer

Dear Senator Blumenauer:

You are a despicable man to support this ghastly legislation with the, “every five-year death-counseling” clause. It’s voluntary today, mandatory tomorrow. I supported Oregon’s assisted suicide. That was only between my doctors and me. It did not include the Federal Government.

I have paid into Social Security since I was ten years old. I have paid into Medicare since it became the law of the land. Now, I am a senior citizen with end-stage renal failure. My insurance is Kaiser Senior Advantage. Should you take 500 billion dollars from Medicare where will that leave me? Dialysis is an expensive and on going procedure I don’t need the Government plundering one of the only two legs of my insurance.

Members of the House and Senate have their own posh benefit packages complete with health care for the rest of your natural lives. If you think this new health care plan for Americans is so good, why aren’t you enrolling in it? If it’s so affordable why not sign up? Just think of the money you could save the taxpayers. The members of the House and Senate remind me of Orwell’s Animal Farm. “All the animals are equal, except the pigs. Pigs are more equal than the other animals” Just what does that make you?

If you persist in endorsing this dangerous legislation, please know I will do everything in my power to see you are voted out of office the next time you come up for re-election. You stink sir, like the wretched odor of death, in death panel.
Sincerely.
Martin Yost
Buxton, OR

You can't believe

martyinaz Tuesday, February 2nd at 11:04PM EST (link)

the responses I get from Capitol Hill when I write to Congress and the Senate. It is very clear they are sheltered from any unflattering comemts I make. In every instanse I get back a syrupy sweet note about how much they enjoy hearing from their constituents. I feel sure the two DemocRATS from Oregon could care less, what I think or say. Still it’s great to Vent on them every week or so. You should try it. You’ll feel better.

 
 
 
 

Nor do I imagine Michael Moore goes to Cuba if he needs surgery -nt

bk (Diary) Monday, February 1st at 11:18PM EST (link)

This one needs to be shouted from the rooftops

tankertodd (Diary) Tuesday, February 2nd at 12:02AM EST (link)

And in 30 years when all our good doctors are practicing elsewhere, where do you think the American liberal elites will go for healthcare? They’ll leave their country too.

If this guy tried to pull that in the States a mob or blessed Tea Partiers would be waiting at the airport with a stretcher and rusty scalpels, and an old anatomy book and they’d give him his surgery on the spot.

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Where do you think they'll go?

revivefederalism (Diary) Tuesday, February 2nd at 3:31AM EST (link)

This is an honest question. Where else on earth would U.S. doctors like to practice? Are you thinking a lot of small niche markets like Singapore and Hong Kong? I’ve heard that Duke’s medical school is opening a campus in Singapore. Maybe there’s some potential to set up retirement & medical centers in various places like Belize. It will be interesting to see if U.S. health care policies can get so bad that there will be a lot of doctors who decide to set up shop overseas. For now though, it seems that we have a reprieve from Pelosi-care, so let’s hope that we can some ways to grow our economy so that we can afford the best medical care.

It's not the current doctors who will go

Adjoran (Diary) Tuesday, February 2nd at 3:40AM EST (link)

Although many will retire early or restrict their practice as their incomes are squeezed by the government, the real problem is that with the reduced income not so many bright young people will enter the profession. They’ll become lawyers instead. It’s easier to just sue the doctors, and the money is already about as good and going to get much better (relatively as doctor incomes plunge).

A crackdown on banker pay can have the same result.

revivefederalism (Diary) Tuesday, February 2nd at 4:05AM EST (link)

The typical routes for ambitious college kids have been law, medicine, and finance. The basic requirement to enter any of these professions is just a strong undergraduate grade point average. Of course there are plenty of other paths to success, but if you make it past the gatekeepers, these have been fairly high probability methods to enter the top tax brackets. If government interference makes one path seem less rosy, plenty of people who have their pick will crowd into another. Maybe we’ll get to stop paying so much for lawyers if they saturate their own market.

They've already saturated their own market.

realskinny (Diary) Tuesday, February 2nd at 11:55AM EST (link)

That’s why they keep passing lawyer full employment acts like “equal pay”.

 
 

Mayo in AZ

martyinaz Tuesday, February 2nd at 11:49PM EST (link)

The Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale has stopped accepting Medicare patients in some departments. Definitly no NEW Medicare patients will be going through their system. I think you can all guess the reason. Medicare won’t pay enough for their (Mayo’s) services.

This started to become an issue a few months back. Some bureaucrat decided that Mayo was running too many tests on their patients, compared to hospitals in San Diego CA. The government reasoned that Mayo was simply padding their bills.This was a classic case of not doing the homework.

On an average, the people seen in San Diego all have private health insurance. Persistant cough? Go to the doctor. If it turns out to be serious, it was caught early, and a treatment plan was started. In Arizona, with an enormous number on Native Americans, most of whom are uninsured.. Few people outside the better paid employed, have private insurance. Many have NO insurance at all. Should someone present to a physician with a catastrophic illness, It will be Medicare that will pick up the bill. There are a litany of tests neede to determine the extent of the problem. When a patient presents to a physician when they are at stage 3 cancer, it costs a lot of money to get an accurate diagnosis and establish a treatment plan. In San Diego, that patient would most likely be diagnosed much earlier. This would allow a less agressive treatment plan at a much reduced cost.

Can anyone blame Mayo for their reluctance here?Obviously if a patient appears at the Emergency Room door, and all he has is Medicare, he will be seen and cared for like any patient with private insurance. But upon discharge it’s Good Bye, and pay your bill..

 
 
 
 

Ooo!!! Oooo!!! Pick me!!!!

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, February 2nd at 12:20AM EST (link)

I know why he’s coming here. It’s the occupancy rates. Down here, he’s got a better chance of getting an available bed. You know why?
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It’s because all the state Governors here always fly down to Havana when they want something done.

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LOL, if they are members of the Progressive Caucus they do!! nt

nessa (Diary) Tuesday, February 2nd at 1:47AM EST (link)

“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

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not better just smaller.

tjexcite (Diary) Tuesday, February 2nd at 6:57AM EST (link)

He is going to the states not because the US is better, it has the infrastructure that is in place.
The operation is still paid by the Canadian government to the US hospital but to pay for the one operation is cheaper for all involved than to build the need facility.

When you do things right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything at all

 

He figures if he dies....

qurys Tuesday, February 2nd at 8:40AM EST (link)

then he will prove how good the Canadian healthcare system is? Yeah….that’s the ticket.

 

They would even rather pay out of pocket than wait

msfitz Tuesday, February 2nd at 8:56AM EST (link)

I’m familiar with several Canadian “snowbirds” and several will pay out of pocket for health services in the US rather than wait on their government sponsored HC waiting lists.

It scares me to think that our narcissistic Commander-in-Chief thinks this is better. It’s not better, it’s all about control. Control that none of these yahoos in Washington will be subject to unless we get rid of the whole lot of them and change statute. Creation of government dependency is their objective for job security and actually “job creation”. Gee, do we want to become one of the largest employers in the world?? Like the British Healthcare Sysytem. I think not, but Barry does.

 

All I can say is...

DefendUSA (Diary) Tuesday, February 2nd at 9:01AM EST (link)

The free market serves. It does not matter who pays for the operation. The point is that it’s not getting done in his own country. There is something not quite right about that.
The meme I hear is that a nationalized system is as good as any in the US. (No. Don’t laugh.)
Apparently all that ” cost effectiveness” has stunted research, growth and development of state of the art equipment, and decreased the quality and access of care.
Did you know that in Germany, you pay a 10 Euro fee per day for a hospital stay to a maximum of 280 euros? How great do you think you would be taken care of?

*starred thought*
To be a leader is to do the uncomfortable thing. Man up, Mr. President.

 

Give Dems a few years, Danny will stay

johnt Tuesday, February 2nd at 10:18AM EST (link)

in Canada and we’ll be traveling north.

“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville

johnt, where did you find the Tocqueville quote?

realskinny (Diary) Tuesday, February 2nd at 12:01PM EST (link)

It’s great and defines BHO perfectly. By the way, proportionate is mis-spelled.

realskinny, thanks.

johnt Tuesday, February 2nd at 1:39PM EST (link)

It is from Toqueville’s intro to The Ancient Regime and the French Revolution.
On my spelling, yeah, I noticed it a day or two after I put it up, too damn lazy to correct it.
It captures and explains Obama and so many more on the left.
And it’s only about 120 years old, which should tell you something.

“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville

 
 
 

If you all knew who Danny Williams is, this wouldnt surprise you

Alberta (Diary) Tuesday, February 2nd at 10:45AM EST (link)

Frankly, I cant think of a respectable hospital in Canada that would even admit the guy.

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Dead link in the o.p.

Christopher Renner (Diary) Tuesday, February 2nd at 3:21PM EST (link)

shouldn't

outspoken Tuesday, February 2nd at 4:02PM EST (link)

some of the other countries’ leaders be telling the O MAN to not mess with the healthcare system we have, I mean……where will they go (if we become like them – socialized medicine)

 

The only way to get an MRI from Britain's NHS...

revivefederalism (Diary) Thursday, February 11th at 7:13AM EST (link)

is to not need one! This sounds like it must have been excruciatingly painful. It seems quite odd that they didn’t do an x-ray first.

NHS Doctors Leave 7-Inch Forceps Inside Woman During Routine Operation

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,585366,00.html?test=latestnews