Dag.

thanks for posting this.

I had to stop the video for a moment after Thiessen mentioned it in order to recover from my jaw dropping so hard it nearly slammed on my desk.

I cannot understand the thinking of idiots who cannot recognize that an enemy who would strap bombs to a baby to blow up its enemies with being treated as a HUMAN would be to encourage FAILURE at saving the masses! BTW you are correct Erick he SMACKED the crap out of both of them. Geneva Conventions Rights to TERRORISTS….stupid, stupid, stupid!

then it is the first time they did anything right since the 1950′s.

I was waterboarded as a part of my SERE training. It was terribly unpleasant, and I have no shame admitting that I was terrified and that the technique was very effective on me (as it was on everyone that was in my class). Still, it was not torture by any means.

The newswoman (whom I won’t dignify by mention of her name), is full of ignorance on this issue.

Number one, despite her protestations, at NO POINT is somebody whom is subjected to waterboarding submerged in a box or barrel. I had a cloth (like a towel) placed over my face, and water was poured over that. After a few seconds of resisting, I was inclined so that my head was slightly lower than my feet (I was lying supine, or “face-up”). Despite the fact that no water ever entered my mouth or nostrils, there was a tactile illusion that there was water going up my nose and onto my throat. No matter how sure I was that this wasn’t happening, my brain just panicked, convinced that there was water going down my throat. What she saw was “water torture”, an entirely seperate technique (used in asia and the middle east). I never saw the technique used nor trained. Unlike waterboarding, “water torture” carries physical risks, and to my knowledge, is never used by the CIA or US military personnel.

Second, she (and her British friend) are horribly misinformed about the Geneva Convention (a convention that I used to teach about while in the service). The Convention itself is explicit – protections of the Convention are ONLY extended to uniformed members of a national military force operating in a military operation. Terrorists (who are not state sponsored, do not wear a uniform, are not in a recognized military force, and are carrying out operations against civilians instead of legitimate military targets) are expressly denied protections by the Convention. Neither of the idiots on CNN opposing Mr. Thiessen have read nor undesrtand the Convention. It labels actors (such as Al Quida) as “illegal combatants”, and (under the convention) those actors are afforded NO protection.

So when these two idiots try to ask if Americans abroad should be waterboarded, they entirely miss the point. Americans in the military operating in uniform in a military operation are protected by the Convention. Terrorists (whether attacking airliners or attacking our troops) are not given Geneva Convention protections. According to what? Why, the Convention itself!

If you want to know the woman’s true allegiances, look up her public comments made within weeks of 9/11. She was very cozy with those who wished us harm. In fact, she was awfuly “cozy” with Quadaffi of Libya shortly before her famous “tent interview” many years ago (before 9/11), which was the subject of much speculation with those whom I ran with when I was in the service). She has always been a strident anti-American bigot, and has zero credibility on the subject (as can be seen by her poor performance in trying to talk over and insult Mr. Thiessen).

Clearly, only one person in the two videos was informed about what waterboarding is, and what the Convention actually says.

Um, Phillip, that’s because we waterboarded the terrorists and they gave the necessary information to stop the attacks. What don’t you get?

God, she so had that coming. She’s always been overrated. Dull-witted, dumb, and hyper-leftist hack.

Very nicely done by Mark. It’s as if he went to Liz Cheney school. Just calmly but insistently and firmly show them exactly how stupid they are,

I first met Amanpour during Desert Storm – briefed her several times and she was ‘caught’ leaking material to Iraq but the military chose not to act. Dealt with her again in Bosnia – although she was a bit more reasonable during that war.
She’s not very bright, just an agenda driven simpleton. Not a nice sight first thing in the morning…
I’ve been through waterboarding, during SERE training in the ’80′s quite intense, but not torture.

all that you’ve written tracks with my recollection of my own military training and reinforces that recollection.

BTW, the second clip HAS to be viewed; don’t stop with just the first one as the second contains the home run stuff?!
Thanks all!

Amanpour’s husband is Jamie Rubin (poor guy). As I noted in my book, “What Really Happened.” Amanpour and Rubin often appeared as if thy were coordinating their attacks on the Bush administratio in order to make the incompete Clinton administration look better.

http://www.sinsofthehusband.com/wrh.pdf

and why should be more widely disseminated. Few people realize that by not treating captured illegal combatants as called for by the GC—(execution)—-we have made the job much harder. If we had been executing captured Afghan partisans as was standard practice for at least 2 centuries, the Iraqis would not have thrown away their uniforms and hid. They would have surrendered. As a side benefit there would be none of this catch and release BS. There would also be far fewer civilian casualties.

We keep hearing about some new kind of warfare. They call it asymetric. There is nothing new about partisan warfare. It is as old as the human race. The only thing new is our failure to follow the standard countermeasures. Our leaders from George Washington to George Patton would have known exactly what to do.

Our country is very vulnerable right now to terrorist attack. We must support folks like Thiessen and keep driving this message and we have to stop terrorist with enhanced interrogation. Symantics aside – we have to define to the American people that terrorist must be intterogated as they are detained in places such as G bay.

on MSNBC??? Oh, where can I see that!!!!!