Rick v. Kay


Great write up by Brad Jackson about this race.

In the old west, two fierce rivals would gather on opposite ends of a dusty street, itchy trigger fingers at the ready. Whoever was the faster, more accurate shooter won, generally with grave consequences for the loser. There aren’t many old west-style dusty streets left in Texas these days, but there is a showdown nonetheless in the race to be the next executive of the Lone Star State, and it’s a shootout.

Read the whole thing here.


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Medina is the best candidate

TxCon (Diary) Friday, January 15th at 11:34AM EST (link)

but she has no chance.

That's because purists with no name don't work well

Richard Mullins (Diary) Friday, January 15th at 12:08PM EST (link)

here in Texas. I think she seems to take the hard road on the advice of someone that isn’t all that smart. She really should built up a name by running as Lt Governor first and then run for Governor later. She seems to want to be the first governor from South Texas since John Connelly of Floresville. I think the dumbest thing the TEA party folks have a candidate for anything here. No name along with a Job that’s week, doesn’t help them.

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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.

Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.

 

I agree.....and disagree

chbroussard (Diary) Friday, January 15th at 12:55PM EST (link)

TxCon, I agree that Medina is the best candidate. But I disagree that she has no chance. Scott Brown didn’t have a chance either just a few short weeks ago.

Rick Perry talks the talk very well, but where’s the action? 1) He’s going to protect our borders. He’s done such a good job that Border Watch has endorsed Medina. 2) He’s a proponent of state sovereignty. So why did he call a special session during the last session that covered nothing but transportation issues and nothing regarding sovereignty? And why has he failed to call a special special now to protect the citizens of Texas from onerous legislation coming down upon us from DC? Citizens will be on the steps of the state capitol this Saturday to DEMAND he call a special session now to address nullification. If he’s so in favor of sovereignty, we shouldn’t have to be doing this. And KBH….there’s just not enough room here to list all her negatives.

So at this point, I’m not so willing to count Medina out. We have until March to give her the exposure she needs, which is a lot more time than Scott Brown has had. Also in her favor are the historically low turnout numbers for primary elections. With more and more grassroots activists fully engaged in the political arena now, and fully intending to vote in the primary, she could possibly pull this off.

I say let’s get out there and fight for the best candidate. If Medina loses the primary, then we move on and hold our noses and vote for the lesser of the evils. Until that point, I say let’s give it our best shot.

 
 

This is infuriating...especially since she's got an eight year history of running Party activists through the ringer

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, January 15th at 11:39AM EST (link)

Now, news this week, that she will not resign her Senate seat at all, and plans to remain in the Senate “indefinitely.” Oh wait, maybe not. The Dallas Morning News’ Wayne Slater, a long-time political journalist in the Lone Star State says, “As Hutchison spokeswoman Jen Baker told me yesterday, Hutchison intends to leave the Senate once the fights over federal health care and cap-and-trade environmental policy are settled.”

Back home we have a saying…I’ll edit for language but the saying goes:

Crap or get of the pot KAY!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson

and many are starting to think you should just get off the pot nt

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, January 15th at 11:40AM EST (link)
The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson

Amen brother! nt

wingsauce Friday, January 15th at 8:21PM EST (link)
 
 

No contest.

kennyg53 Friday, January 15th at 11:41AM EST (link)

In my mind, it is no contest.

Perry has served reasonably well, with a few question marks, and he has been consistently pro-life.

Hutchinson has served barely adequately, and not done too well when compared to conservative principles. And is pro-death of unborn Americans.

"pro-death of unborn Americans" - that's bullcrap

bk (Diary) Friday, January 15th at 12:52PM EST (link)

Okay she wants to keep Roe v Wade so regulations are at the federal level and has voted for stem cells to get destroyed, but she has also voted for every other sort of abortion restriction on procedures or funding (PBA, military base, foreign aid, etc.).

It’s fair game to say she’s wrong for Roe v Wade or stem cells, but it’s stupid to say or insinuate that she’s in bed with NARAL as your quote above is obviously meant to do.

so what you're saying is

streiff (Diary) Friday, January 15th at 1:30PM EST (link)

that she was against abortion after she was for it?

This is pretty much a binary issue. If you are for Roe v Wade you are for abortion as a matter of definition. You seem to be wanting to argue the extent to which she is willing to kill in utero actually makes a meaningful difference. It doesn’t.

“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”

Bingo!!!...there is no compromise on R V Wade...

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, January 15th at 1:37PM EST (link)

either you’re for abortion on demand on a national level…or you’re not…it is a binary issue!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson

I don't see it as so black and white

bk (Diary) Friday, January 15th at 2:40PM EST (link)

With Roe v Wade in place, some restrictions can be done at a national level. She has voted for all those sorts of things, except as it relates to stem cells.

If Roe v Wade were to be scuttled, then what? It becomes decided at a state level right? It might be nice to pass national laws banning all abortions, but let’s face it, that’s not going to happen.

KBH’s argument is that she wants to at least get some restrictions in place, whereas at a state level you could end up with various states becoming mills for every manner of abortion on demand at any time. “Come to Mass and we’ll kill your baby for you – no questions asked.”

I think she’s being a weasel by not being more direct about her position, but once you get past that there is some amount of trying to play the middle ground there.

If her voting record on abortion sucked it would be a different story, but her voting record matches what her stated position is and it’s near perfect.

I don’t plan on voting for her because I don’t think she’s conservative enough in general, but it pisses me off to make it sound like her support of Roe v Wade makes her equal to Barbara Boxer when it comes to abortion. Perry supporters should be able to say why he deserves re-election rather than trying to distort things about KBH.

If this was a totally black and white issue, no one here who’s pro-life could support Scott Brown right?

That's an anti federalist idea...and I'm a federalist.

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, January 15th at 3:02PM EST (link)

With Roe v Wade in place, some restrictions can be done at a national level. She has voted for all those sorts of things, except as it relates to stem cells.

Roe V Wade was bad law. What’s wrong with returning it to the states and letting the states decide? That’s the way it was before R V Wade…now abortions are allowed across the board. I’ll add…she contends R V Wade restricts abortions after the sixth month which ius a lie and the reason the partial birth abortion bans because necessary and the reason there has been a court ordered hold on PBAs in several states.

She’s trying to have her cake and eat it two and here incoherent babbling on the issue is proof of that…she doesn’t have a well thought out position on it that is’n a contradiction so she talks it to death hoping when she finishes talking the questionaer will be to confused after her ramblings to realize she never answered the question.

She’s a joke and this campaign is going to expose her as one….if she had hald a brain she’d have stayed where she was and not stirred up this hornets nest..as it is…I know a lot of people who are PISSED that she’s gotten everything stirred up again and is leaving Williams and a bunch of other down ballot Republicans twisting in the wind while she dabbles in this game.

And I’ll add…she’s doing this while we need her in Washington focused on what the Dems are doing on HCR or we need her to go ahead and do what she said she’d do so we can have a Senator up there dealing with being a Senator while she’s down here screwing everyone in Texas with her games!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 

a few points

streiff (Diary) Friday, January 15th at 3:13PM EST (link)

1. It is really a black and white issue. Either abortion is acceptable on demand in the first trimester and with modest restrictions in the second or it is unacceptable. To say you support Roe because there might, underscore that word “might”, be an even more liberal regime existing somewhere without it is nonsense because it ignores that abortion would be a criminal act in *most* of the US without it.

2. I’m all in favor of returning the decision to the states and making it a political rather decision rather than bastardizing the Constitution to justify it.

3. If Coakley were pro-life then I don’t think you’d find front page boosting of Brown. We don’t endorse pro-aborts of any party. In the MA case the choice is between a virulent pro-abort who is wrong on a host of other issues and a passive pro-abort who is right on most issues. Given the choice I have no doubt that voting for Brown moves our cause further ahead than voting for Coakley.

“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”

Being that I like to play devil's advocate...

bk (Diary) Friday, January 15th at 3:50PM EST (link)

It seems you’re saying abortion is black and white when it comes to Hutchison but that it’s a gray area when it comes to Brown.

Hutchison (unfortunately) is pro-Roe v Wade, but she at least she HAS voted for all sorts of restrictions – but that’s not good enough.

Brown is “passive pro-abort” whatever that means, but that’s apparently okay.

All I’m saying is that it seems to me that some people want to use words or phrases (e.g. “pro-death”) that make it sound like KBH is the Planned Parenthood candidate in Texas. According to her voting record, that’s a real distortion. She’s way more conservative on abortion than Brown is, so jeez acting like she’s the devil while we turn a blind eye to him because he’s the lesser of two evils seems like a double standard.

Yes I realize TX is red and MA is blue, so the context is different, but I’d much rather be hearing from Perry backers what he’s done than hearing them stretching the truth when it comes to KBH. Part of my concern stems from radio ads I’ve heard here in the People’s Republic of Austin – every single Perry radio ad I’ve heard has been anti-Kay, and every single KBH ad I’ve heard has been whiny but pro-KBH. I hate it when incumbents are 100% negative instead of saying why they should stay in office.

I hope this helps explain where I’m coming from.

not at all

streiff (Diary) Friday, January 15th at 4:00PM EST (link)

I’m saying that not voting is never an option. In the case of KBH and Perry we have a choice, so to speak, between a pro-abort and a pro-life candidate. In MA, where I don’t live, there is no choice so you have to go with the least harmful. If Brown were running against Perry I’d feel exactly the same way.

BTW, I’m glad you did notice that MA and TX are different states and as Erick and a lot of others of us have said time and again we have to elect the most pro-life, most conservative candidate that we can. That might be Scott Brown or Mark Kirk in their districts. In TX we don’t have to make that compromise.

“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”

let me put it this way

bk (Diary) Friday, January 15th at 4:18PM EST (link)

Let’s suppose that the unexpected happens and KBH wins the primary. In a Hutchison-White race, would you support Hutchison since she’s not as pro-abortion as White, or would you say they are equal since she favors Roe v Wade and say you couldn’t bring yourself to vote for her? Certainly even as soft as she may be, she’s more conservative than White on many other issues, but if she’s a a pro-death candidate could you vote for her in the general?

I’m not voting for her in the primary but I would certainly vote for her in the general if it came to that.

I would vote for Kay against White...

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, January 15th at 5:30PM EST (link)

and CHEER because Williams would be in the US Senate…

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 
 

It's not Rocket Science BK...Perry is the more pro life candidate

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, January 15th at 5:27PM EST (link)

thus he get’s our support.. If I were forced with a choice between Brown and Perry, then Perry would be my guy on the abortion issue…if it’s a choice between Brown and Coakly then Brown obviously I’m going to go with Brown…especially considering he’s the 41st vote against HCR.

If it’s a choice between Kay or Brown…well…that’s a tough one…What I know about Kay…I’d probably pick Browne because Kay is so unpredictable

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 
 
 
 
 

WISH list

irishgirl Friday, January 15th at 3:03PM EST (link)

It’s been reported widely (one by Townhall back in Feb.) that KBH served for many years as Honorary Advisory Board Member of WISH List whose mission is to raise money to identify, train and elect pro-abortion Repub women at all levels of Government. That’d be along with the Maine twins. So her stance on abortion is ambiguous at best. All indications is she is pro-abortion but doesn’t want to advertise that too loudly.

Sorry, meant this to come after bk's comment

irishgirl Friday, January 15th at 3:07PM EST (link)
 
 
 

Medina is the best candidate

TxCon (Diary) Friday, January 15th at 12:07PM EST (link)

I will be voting in primary

bilmar Friday, January 15th at 12:25PM EST (link)

for the first time ever and will be voting for Medina

 

Perry's new ad.

WILLisms (Diary) Friday, January 15th at 12:36PM EST (link)

KBH simply cannot shake her bailout vote.

Her pro-choice views are not helping her much, either.

Last night, KBH had just as much trouble answering this question as she did back in 1993.

 

Debra Medina

chelseagirl Friday, January 15th at 12:56PM EST (link)

Three candidates for Governor of my great State of Texas had the chance to speak last night. Private citizen and nurse, Debra Medina, was the ONLY adult present on the stage last night. While both KBH and Gov. Perry came UNPREPARED, Medina spoke directly to her commitment to totally eliminate the property tax in Texas and replace it with a broader based sales tax in which ALL citizens would fund government. While KBH and Gov Perry could only speak to how much Texas gets back from the Feds, Medina spoke to sending LESS money to DC. Imagine senior citizens, ALL citizens of Texas never being at risk for being property-taxed out of their homes. KBH and Gov Perry acted like two children fighting in a sandbox last night…..I was EMBARRASSED.

Perry has had the longest term as Governer...

audax (Diary) Friday, January 15th at 3:01PM EST (link)

…and HAS YET TO REDUCE THE PROPERTY TAX!!!! IF he gets this through the legislature before the primary (HAH) I would vote for him…since it isn’t gonna happen…I’m with you chelseagirl! Maybe Dan Patrick will run for Governor 4 years hence…..

Audeamus pro audere est facere

 
 

Doomed in Texas

zecabledude Friday, January 15th at 2:22PM EST (link)

We have 2 well funded, supposedly conservative candidates. The party switching, land grabbing, insurance salesman, Perry. And the somewhat Idiotic, wishywashy professional politician, Hutchinson.

The only real conservative candidate is not likely to win due to name recognition and frankly, funding. Dooooooommmmm… dooooooom.

 

As I said yesterday, it doesn't matter

Menlo (Diary) Friday, January 15th at 3:41PM EST (link)

In Texas, the governor is a figurehead. In the place where it counts, with people like Joe Straus at the helm, it would make no difference policy-wise even if a liberal Democrat were to win the race.

People don’t seem to realize that the governor has virtually ZERO impact on what laws and policies are passed. The governor deserves neither credit nor blame for much of what goes on.

“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter

 

Why I'm supporting Kay

Rhymes With Right Friday, January 15th at 9:25PM EST (link)

When it comes right down to it, I simply cannot vote for Rick Perry.

The reason is summed up in one word — Gardasil. If he could pull that move, he is no conservative, and undeserving of the vote of any individual who believes in traditional values, individual liberty, or honest government.

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