I missed the implications of this up front and I bet you all did too, but I am hearing from members of the American intelligence community and some on the outside closely connected to those on the inside who are raising a huge red flag right now.
It appears Barack Obama inexperience and amateurishness has just started bonfires on the bridges connecting him to the American intelligence community and delivered a huge, HUGE psychological win to Al Qaeda.
People tell me the President’s rush to acknowledge the attack on the CIA in Afghanistan and mourn the deaths openly, publicly, and via press release is a huge no no. The CIA and greater intelligence community would prefer not to have the attention put on them. Additionally, because the President took the time to draft a blanket statement focused on the CIA in general instead of individually and more privately focusing on the families of the victims, it acknowledges the CIA’s work in Afghanistan, acknowledges that the attack has an impact on the CIA, and gives the terrorists a new recruiting tool — “you too can cause America to publicly mourn the loss of their spies.”
To you and me this may not seem like a big deal. But I’m told this is hugely significant and shows just how out of touch the Obama administration is with the intelligence community. I’m told that no other President has issued such blanket statements of public mourning directed toward an attack on the CIA and thereby having the White House itself confirming an attack on our intelligence community.
The intelligence community is licking its wounds right now and Obama’s rush to confirm for the world that the community suffered such wounds has the intelligence community simmering tonight and Al Qaeda preparing a PR blitz with what they view as good news.
UPDATED: Take the information above and couple it with this. The White House is subtly blaming the intelligence community for the failure to deduce the Delta/Northwest attack.
Why?
Presidential aides are concerned that Obama will somehow be unfairly accused of dropping the ball on the fight against terrorist in Yemen
Because the President is worried about being blamed, the White House is trying to blame the CIA while at the same time undermining the CIA through a rush to publicize the Afghan attack.
Either this White House is willfully trying to sabotage the intelligence community or they are rank amateurs. I pray to God in Heaven it is the latter.
KnightsofMalta
Steve Maley
Caleb Howe
Erick, Really...
tsquare (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 10:25PM EST (link)Is that it’s The Company vs The Clown really news?
True, maybe that this moment of ham-handed far left lunacy, wasn’t fully appreciated… but these two were never going to get along. They are, at their heart and soul, working at cross purpose to each other…
The CIA working in the best interest of the nation and it’s (and all over ours) security.
Obama… 180 degrees from that.
This war… as you document it starting in this place at this time is going to get a lot worse before it every gets better.
Well, when you consider that the entire Valerie Plame incident...
MacAoidh (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 12:17AM EST (link)…was nothing more than a CIA influence op against the Bush administration, for whatever purposes, it’s fair to question whether many in the CIA were more than willing to climb aboard with Obama. Those with connections in Langley will tell you that there are an astounding and disturbing number of typical Ivy League/East Coast lefties populating the CIA.
By any measure, though, this president has been an utter disaster for the intelligence community. This latest bit in Afghanistan and what looks like the administration preparing to hang the intelligence community out to dry for the Knickerbomber episode (which they might well deserve, I can’t say yet) are only the latest in a long string of abuses dating back to before the inauguration.
With such a betrayal, one wonders whether another Plame-style op is coming. It wouldn’t surprise me to see multiple influence ops coming through this summer and fall in an effort to destroy Pelosi’s speakership.
Check out MacAoidh’s commentary on Louisiana and national politics at TheHayride.com
Nothing like
Gmac Friday, January 1st at 10:32PM EST (link)actually handing AQ recruiting PR on a silver platter just like the Democrats used to blame W of doing and having the CIA looking for a bit of payback for a monumental information blunder exposing them.
It makes me wonder just which team Obama really is playing for…
That is a great point
nelsa (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 10:34PM EST (link)I had mentioned to someone earlier today that this is a huge blow to the CIA.
The CIA has a wall at HQ that lists those that have been lost over the years. Each name is preceded by a star.
I have seen that wall and it is very moving.
These types of incidents would have been “downplayed” in the past. You may never have heard of them and that is for a good reason.
I am glad you brought up this subject. It says a lot about this administration.
Do you actually think it is a "screw up," Erick?
Achance (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 10:35PM EST (link)It ain’t a screw-up if you meant to do it and it contributes to achieving your objective of eliminating the US as a major power. The man is the Manchurian Candidate executing somebody’s agenda to defeat the US. Invest in precious metal.
In Vino Veritas
I was going to post the same thing
DerKrieger (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 10:41PM EST (link)With all Obama and his fellow Marxists have done since taking power I don’t believe in accidents. I think a lot of what appear to be ham handed, amateurish mistakes are in fact well thought out and considered actions aimed at undercutting this country. His goal is to weaken our economy, our military, our intelligence, and our people. He is succeeding too well.
I’m generally not a conspiracy theorist but with the Obama’s ties to Soros and Soros’ obvious hostility toward the US I think there is some coordination happening. Perhaps Obama’s consistent delays before taking action or speaking publicly about events is merely time to consult Soros.
“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison
Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690
I think Soros even is only a front man.
Achance (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 10:46PM EST (link)He doesn’t have the money to do the run on the Treasury that led to the “credit crisis” that elected The One. Some combination of Arab oil money, Wall Street corrupt bankers, and leftwing foundation money looks like the basis of all this, but I don’t know enough of the spells and incantations used by the elite to really get into any detailed understanding. It is like looking at hieroglyphics or something; you know there’s meaning there, but you just can’t puzzle it all out.
And I’m one of those guy who’ll always choose incompetency over conspiracy when trying to explain something.
In Vino Veritas
Incompetency vs conspiracy
ericstenner Friday, January 1st at 11:03PM EST (link)Even if you guys are right about the conspiracy angle, I am trying to figure out how this helps him. He has a big problem on his hands already with the Christmas Day bomber, so how would it help his cause to further alienate the intelligence community?
His top priority is healthcare, and he is already going to face huge obstacles getting that done when Congress reconvenes because national security has reared its inconvenient head. It would seem to make more sense that he screwed the pooch here because he was trying to get out in front of it and had no understanding of CIA “rules.”
It's not about him
DerKrieger (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 11:33PM EST (link)If you look at Obama as just a pawn of larger forces then it makes sense that it may not necessarily benefit him personally.
And regarding health care, it’s just another rope thrown around the US Gulliver by the world’s Lilliputians. Most of the rest of the world is irredeemable and the only way they can compete with the US is by tying us down. Obama is merely playing his part.
“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison
Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690
"His top priority is healthcare..."
mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 11:36PM EST (link)Nope.
His top priority is nationalizing the entire economy. Health care is just the most difficult bite to chew.
Ok, but...
ericstenner Saturday, January 2nd at 12:05AM EST (link)he can’t very well introduce a “nationalize the entire economy” bill. If this healthcare bill fails then his presidency is as potent as a newborn kitten. And these incidents of terrorism certainly do not help that cause.
I have no doubt that his goal is to turn us into a European-style socialist nation, but I am not so sure that everything he does is a cunning strategic move in that direction – I think the guy is truly inept a lot of the time. This feels like one of those times.
It hasn't failed so far, ericstenner.
janis (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 12:30PM EST (link)As to the terrorism, unless and until a big Dem politician or their family, or, a major media figure like Couric, is affected by it, then Obama’s side and the MSM will continue to cover for him.
Obama is only inept in mimicking what an American POTUS truly says and does, but he’s totally “ept” when it comes to achieving what he wants here, which is America on the same level as Great Britain, Germany, etc. No more superpower for us, that will be China.
There is a definite nexus between Soros and Arab oil money...
MacAoidh (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 12:30AM EST (link)…he has built a web of financial and other connections to some highly unsavory petrocrats in the Islamic world. With the Chinese and Russians as well.
And then there’s the question of Obama’s raising close to a billion dollars in campaign contributions from small donors while refusing to account for their origin or explain why they would come in increments like $12.43 and $21.72 – when it was proven at least some of it was coming from the Middle East.
To what end, I don’t know. And maybe there was no quid pro quo; maybe these guys were just power-hungry and unscrupulous. But never in American history has so unknown an individual with so many questionable ties come to power, so it’s hardly unreasonable to be suspicious.
Check out MacAoidh’s commentary on Louisiana and national politics at TheHayride.com
I have to agree with Achance
pac_NY (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 11:10PM EST (link)I have a terrible feeling this was done with intentional deliberation.
Obama doesn’t move all too quickly when he should for the benefit of the country, and yet from all I’ve been reading about BHO for the last two years, I know he’s definitely not on America’s side.
Obama scorns and ridicules what patriotic Americans believe in, and he wasn’t speaking idle words about changing this nation. Everything he says and does has been bearing this out.
I believe our foreign enemies understand him very well; he speaks to them while being glib to the rest of us.
BHO is changing America from within – in order to have the intended effect of American being changed from without.
He looketh on the earth, and it trembleth: he toucheth the hills, and they smoke. -Psalm 104:32
55555
Scope (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 12:00PM EST (link)Nothing these Communists do is done by Achance.
I'm Surprised at the amount of Detail
Bloggy Bayou (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 10:35PM EST (link)In the news surrounding this event… Including the fact that the bomber was being recruited by the CIA…
As for Obama doing the public Mourning..yeah I can see the company being upset over this…
They don’t advertise their Dead..Just go look at thier HQ ..no names to mark the fallen…
Obama has already burnt his bridges with the Intel folks… He is about to throw them under the bus with the underwear bomber.. He has already telegraphed that move… Anybody but him…
This is a time that calls for Serious adults to be in charge…
Come back Dick Cheney….Come back….
BloggyBayou
www.practicalstate.com
bloggybayou@practicalstate.com
muckraker
nelsa (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 10:53PM EST (link)There is another wall. At least there was in 82. I’m sure it has been added to since then. The one I saw was much smaller than the one you can view on the web.
Perhaps someone can clear this up. Regardless, the way this was handled was unforgiveable IMO.
Nelsa
Bloggy Bayou (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 11:04PM EST (link)My Memory Dims over time,
http://fiu.edu/~fcf/ray.washingtonpost.cia91897.html
Covert have no names..either way, CIA does not like to be in the news…
Esp when things go down bad…
The Administration is going to throw the intel folks under the bus.., Does wonders for morale…
/s off
BloggyBayou
www.practicalstate.com
bloggybayou@practicalstate.com
Looks like "operation CYA" is in full Mode
Bloggy Bayou (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 11:11PM EST (link)http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/declassified/archive/2010/01/01/exclusive-obama-got-pre-christmas-intelligence-briefing-about-terror-threats-to-homeland.aspx
Article goes out of way to say Yemen was never in the brief…
I say, maybe that day it wasn’t, but do you expect me to believe that Obama and company haven’t been kept abreast of Yemen becoming the a hub/safe haven for Al-Quada?
I’m retired form Naval Intel for quite a few years now and I managed to be aware of this development from open sources a long time ago…
BloggyBayou
www.practicalstate.com
bloggybayou@practicalstate.com
Karamursel
nelsa (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 11:29PM EST (link)We were probably in Karamursel at the same time. Ever hear of the “Elephant Cage”
PS
nelsa (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 11:31PM EST (link)I was Air Force.
Did you notice???
audax (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 3:49AM EST (link)How Newsweek said they didn’t “knit it all together”? What happened to “CONNECTING THE DOTS”?????? Newsweek was in major COA (Cover Obamas A$$) mode in theentire article
Audeamus pro audere est facere
Muckraker
nelsa (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 11:08PM EST (link)Mystery solved.
A black Moroccan goatskin-bound book, called the “Book of Honor,” sits in a steel frame beneath the stars, its “slender case jutting out from the wall just below the field of stars,” and is “framed in stainless steel and topped by an inch-thick plate of glass.”[2] Inside it shows the stars, arranged by year of death and, when possible, lists the names of employees who died in CIA service alongside them.[1][2] The identities of the unnamed stars remain secret, even in death.[1] In 1997, there were 70 stars, 29 of which had names.[2] There were 79 stars in 2002, [4] 83 in 2004,[5] and 90 in 2009.[6]
That is what I was reffering to.
I think I might have been prescient again.
Achance (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 10:42PM EST (link)See the last para: http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/01/01/something-wicked-this-way-comes/#comment-49037
In Vino Veritas
you should have
kyle8 (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 10:49PM EST (link)used a condom
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
kowalski
kyle8 (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 10:50PM EST (link)that was a lame joke in case jwebb is reading it.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
kyle- What is your purpose
Scope (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 8:39AM EST (link)of personally attacking another member that you had some disagreements with on a completely different diary?
CIA
CarolT (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 10:56PM EST (link)I agree, we need DickCheney back, maybe he can help Obama, but I don’t think Obama wants help. I have to think that this was not naive, but intentional. He doesn’t want to win the war, he acts like the war does not exist. He never said Islamic Terrorst, has he?
He threw the CIA under the same bus as Rev.Wright, Grandma, and now the CIA, FBI shoudl be next if all goes according to his plan.
A harbinger of things to come?
Ms. Underestimated Friday, January 1st at 10:57PM EST (link)Hey, Erick… I personally think the CIA will be less likely to “take ‘em alive” now that PrezBO has tied their hands. What do you think?
Let the leaking begin
SteveLA (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 11:14PM EST (link)“President Barack Obama received a high-level briefing only three days before Christmas about possible holiday-period terrorist threats against the US, Newsweek has learned. The briefing was centered on a written report, produced by US intelligence agencies, entitled “Key Homeland Threats”, a senior US official said”
Source News Week, http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/declassified/archive/2010/01/01/exclusive-obama-got-pre-christmas-intelligence-briefing-about-terror-threats-to-homeland.aspx
______________________________________
Competency over ideological purity and litmus tests
All is happening according to plan.
grace123 Friday, January 1st at 11:21PM EST (link)These are not mistakes. These are goals. They are just getting started, much worse is to come. 2010 cannot come fast enough. Lord help us if we cannot make some changes in Congress.
2010 is here already
audax (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 3:53AM EST (link)sure you mean NOVEMBER 2010?
Audeamus pro audere est facere
That's what I mean
grace123 Saturday, January 2nd at 1:50PM EST (link)That’s exactly what I mean.
Everyone read the Newsweek article
Bloggy Bayou (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 11:24PM EST (link)Great minds think alike..
The issue should now be not to let Obama and his crew spin it that way…
This is the same crew that gave full immunity to Interpol…
Looks like there is a case of “not quite ready for prime time” to be made here, and we need to make it loud and constant…
BloggyBayou
www.practicalstate.com
bloggybayou@practicalstate.com
By the way, Obama gave Iran a new year's deadline.
barrypopik (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 11:29PM EST (link)No biggie. Back to the links.
Time to go to the UN and issue a statement. nt
mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 11:32PM EST (link)barrypopik- He did just let that slide
Scope (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 8:44AM EST (link)with not a peep about it. I guess he’ll say he was to busy with the Christmas bomber, despite the fact that he told us he can do two things at once during the campaign. His deadline for Iran was nothing more than empty threats, and it will continue to be that way.
Unfortunately we've known from the start
Daezy Friday, January 1st at 11:32PM EST (link)how this administration feels about the CIA. Pelosi spelled it out loud and clear early on, and I fear the former is true.
They have been at cross purposes all year, trying to diminish the agency and all its predecessors. Obama’s lack of experience and knowledge, coupled with his insatiable ego, will not help the safety of our country and our people in harms way.
God protect them and keep them safe.
All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. ~ Thomas Jefferson
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. ~ Ronald Reagan
http://uslibertyjournal.blogspot.com/
Attacking those who defend us is what they do best
avgamerican (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 11:34PM EST (link)The enemy within is the democratic leadership and those who support them.
General Jones' You Were Wrong
avgamerican (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 11:32PM EST (link)General Jones, one of Obama’s Joint Chief’s said several months ago, I quote, “Intelligence is better” since Barack Obama came into office. Does he care to rephrase that now. Jones was praised for being a good pick for Obama’s cabinet. To me he is only a political hack knowingly defending a weak Administration. If anything this casts the spotlight on Obama and Holder.
The conspiracy thing could be true but what's the end goal?
avgamerican (Diary) Friday, January 1st at 11:43PM EST (link)I can believe Obama was chosen because of his ideological opposition to a strong USA. He could be the puppet. But whose pulling the strings? The UN, global elites? Are some of you suggesting that Obama is going to be the president that brings the USA into the Europe Confederation?
Obama was probably reacting to the criticism of him not reacting last time. A "day late" thing.
archer52 Saturday, January 2nd at 12:18AM EST (link)If I’m getting this right he made a statement about the loss of life for the CIA? It was probably the wrong time to show intense concern, but after the “I’m glad the system worked and the plane didn’t blow up, gotta go golfing.” moment his people probably shoved him out there after sticking something in his eyes to bring tears like Danny Devito in Ruthless People;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mj41gYRyw8
I don’t think the CIA is going to be harmed by the exposure. We know they are there, they know they are there, heck my kids know they are there. I don’t think we are handing the other side any more motivation then they already have with Obama as president and his desire to turn all terrorist acts into criminal investigations. Like I said before, free ride and a lawyer no matter what they do now. That is plenty motivation.
Buckle up folks, it is going to get real interesting.
Cut off sentence
ambris Saturday, January 2nd at 12:21AM EST (link)That sentence goes on to say: a country where, in fact, the evidence suggests Obama, as early as last summer, ordered a significant increase in US intelligence activity.
I don’t think they’re trying to blame the CIA, and I haven’t even read any liberals claim it. I don’t know what the protocol is for CIA deaths. At least he’s acknowledging it, unlike the christmas bomber.
ambris- Are you an Obama sympathizing troll?
Scope (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 8:52AM EST (link)your very first comment here in your 6 day membership is to criticize Erick’s diary, and to make sure we all know that Erick is misleading us?
Whoa now
ambris Sunday, January 3rd at 6:34PM EST (link)Well I guess it is, but that doesn’t mean I like Obama. I don’t think he was willfully misleading, just getting a bit overexcited, maybe. This will definitely not be remembered as the greatest of obama’s screw ups, though to be fair, it’s a high bar.
A bit overexcited. I like that.
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Sunday, January 3rd at 6:45PM EST (link)Really.
I mean it.
O supporter or not, I’ve gotta give you a big and honest welcome to RedState and thank you.
Because……..
Y’all just gave the world new verbal ammo that’s used only in full-auto rock-’n-roll AR word processors.
A bit overexcited.
Wow.
Gonna get legs with me, that’s fer sure. That’s fer dang sure.
Cheers !
I agree
chbroussard (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 12:22AM EST (link)…with all of the posts that said this was not an accident. Everything BHO says and does plays into his plan to degrade and harm our country. I don’t accept that he is just an incompetent, inexperienced boob.
Gordon Brown calls for world meeting on Yemen problem
katesmith (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 12:38AM EST (link)Article in UK Telegraph today, says he invited other nations for Jan. meeting-and that Obama is in full agreement. The point is, with the headline, the weakling Gordon Brown appears to be a greater world leader than Obama. I agree the CIA is controlled by lifelong bureaucrats and not much use to us although we want them all alive. This attack was a great humiliation but expected under Obama and his pick Leon Panetta. Articles say they knew the bomber, was one of locals receiving US tax dollars to get us supposed info. We are in free fall.
Here is a solution for Gordon Brown to the Yemen problem
izoneguy (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 12:44AM EST (link)The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Advice to Gordon Brown
GregInFla (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 1:10AM EST (link)Do not let the Muslin jihadists back into your country. Pretty simple, actually. Word has it that you will track them in the country. Why let them in?
– A true evolutionist would let endangered species die off. Think about it.
– The sign outside the courthouse said no signs allowed. So I took it down.
– Atlas Shrugged is now on the non-fiction aisle at Amazon.
It doesn't matter, really...
Dave Saturday, January 2nd at 1:21AM EST (link)…as given the EPA is going to now implement Crap & Tax through regulation, thus requiring no further congressional approval, all Obama has left to complete his blitzkrieg of a coup is to put his signature on whatever health care “reform” bill this out-of-control congress puts in front of him.
All this GWOT stuff is nothing more than a distraction, as I doubt very seriously that Obama cares if we eat a city or two, as long as he isn’t in one of them.
It;’s been one heck of a successful coup, and most have missed it completely.
Good luck “fixing” all this in 2012.
-Dave
Our elected representatives have failed us.
While I agree that there is a lot that is going to be difficult to undo,
USNJIMRET (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 1:54AM EST (link)every coup I can recall requires, REQUIRES mind you, an armed force to maintain it. Even one ‘elected’ into it’s position.
Who are, or will be, the armed force-in sufficient number and loyalty to the One, to continue the coup once regular Americans finally are aware of it?
That's easy, it will be INTERPOL
Scope (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 9:07AM EST (link)why else would Obama have given them the powers that he did. The UN has no other purpose than to institute one world government. I believe Obama thinks he is going to be the president of that one world body. Sad part is, he is selling out the USA, as we have been one of the last hold-outs. He will be squashed like a little bug, and Russia or China, most likely China, will take the superpower status after Obama has completely surrendered our entire country.
That's easy, it will be INTERPOL
Scope (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 9:07AM EST (link)why else would Obama have given them the powers that he did. The UN has no other purpose than to institute one world government. I believe Obama thinks he is going to be the president of that one world body. Sad part is, he is selling out the USA, as we have been one of the last hold-outs. He will be squashed like a little bug, and Russia or China, most likely China, will take the superpower status after Obama has completely surrendered our entire country.
INTERPOL has sufficient numbers of armed personnel to police 300 million Americans?? NT
USNJIMRET (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 10:34AM EST (link)No, not officially, not yet........ But......
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 10:45AM EST (link)This ICR2P madness will ‘deputize’ whoever they want, whenever they want, wherever they want…… and enough of their people are in place in senior positions that the answer just might be “yeah, they’re nuts enough to try it” the minute they ramp up.
Keep remembering the edict…… The Left does nothing without a plan… layered with contingencies and off-shoot ‘what if’s’.
That’s not tin-foil hat stuff, that’s tactical planning. Try and cover everything you can think of, no matter how nuts it sounds.
But of course, I live by the tactical view that says “No op plan survives first contact with the enemy”.
Adapt, improvise and execute.
Executive Order - Classified National Security Information
izoneguy (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 10:53AM EST (link)What the heck is this?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-classified-national-security-information
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Looks like the standard rules
oblio Saturday, January 2nd at 11:02AM EST (link)definitions and procedures for originating and handling classified information. Many of the paragraphs are familiar to those of use who handle classified data.
Not sure if this document is simply refreshed each year or if there have been changes made.
Uh oh.
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 11:07AM EST (link)Parse that thing very carefully…….. VERY carefully.
Make sure every t is dotted and i is crossed.
Something is NOT passing my immediate gut-check smell test.
Fox News is still on the air and The Washington Examiner’s website is still up, so it’s not that bad….. yet.
I have to go out for about two hours – donating some old furniture to The Salvation Army….. back when I can.
But Kenny I just got done with my security rebreif
oblio Saturday, January 2nd at 11:11AM EST (link)which is NOT the highlight of my year, and I really don’t want to read gov’mint rules and regs again :sigh:
Oblio, y'all best do it and do it with a fine-toothed comb.
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 12:34PM EST (link)Your freedom and maybe your life depends on it.
I’d suggest everyone read it and follow all the links.
If even one of us catches something the rest of us miss, the effort is worth whatever it takes.
Kenny- I agree
Scope (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 12:53PM EST (link)I have saved the link on my favorites page. I must go our for now, I’ll try reading it later. I don’t know if it will make any sense to me, but I will read it, and probably ask a million questions.
PS- I wonder why this is signed
Scope (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 12:56PM EST (link)on Dec. 29. Obama has been in Hawaii, getting a “much needed rest” since the day before Christmas. Isn’t that odd? You think he may have reviewed this and signed it on the golf course?
We gotta take this to it's own diary.
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 1:13PM EST (link)Way too important.
Give me an hour, maybe 90 minutes or so and I’ll git-r-done.
I gotta get back to this donation to the Salvation Army. I had to make two trips.
Back soon.
I saw something about this EO yesterday on FOX.
Achance (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 1:16PM EST (link)I wasn’t paying close attention but I heard enough from a Democrat shill to get the gist of it. The eeeeevul Bush Administration classified stuff that the people and press have a right to know. The One is going to save us all by making it harder to classify stuff so the people, the press, and our enemies can know more about what we do.
So, you’d need to do a side by side to spot the changes but there are some and the changes are intended to keep more stuff public.
In Vino Veritas
Ace of Spades did a short take on it, too.
janis (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 1:47PM EST (link)He says it’s tortuously written and convoluted as all get-out. But he seems to think the take away is that things will be left unclassified unless someone thinks they should be classified, and then they’ll get classified at that point.
Which makes little to no sense unless you’re talking about making certain info inaccessible once it appears to be too useful to our side. But if it was already made public, then why bother? Unless you are adding stuff after you’ve made it classified. All I know is that if these jokers did it, then it’s going to screw us somehow.
Not a one world government, more a series of regional governments led by a few. European statist model.
archer52 Saturday, January 2nd at 12:06PM EST (link)It is easy to fall into the fear of a one world government with a single person running the show. That’s not what is happening in my opinion. There won’t a one world government, but there will be a thin strata of world leaders shifting from private to public to private (in order to enrich themselves and their friends) and the leaders of large companies which control the events within each nation. Imagine a Western Hemisphere version of the EU, an Asian version and so on. Left out would be smaller underdeveloped nations which would be controlled by UN or regional organization mandates or handouts. The goal for most of the world leaders is the European statist model along the lines of Mussolini’s Italy in the twenties and thirties, where government and certain international corporations (and maybe Soros type currency speculators) will manipulate everything, including the lives of the drones below them. Remember as I have said before- It is the nature of man to rule man, and for many it is their nature to be ruled.
The first time I sensed this was years ago when HRC made a comment along these lines. “Not everybody needs to go to college, some need to go to technical schools in order to learn a trade like auto mechanics.” What she was saying was that HER daughter should go to a major university (Harvard etc.) while YOUR kids should learn how to fix her daughter’s Beemer. Everybody knows their “place.”
No matter how hard we try to be free there will always be someone trying to enslave us. Our mistake has always been looking for the good in everyone and giving people the benefit of the doubt which gets them into positions of leadership without the scrutiny they deserve. The NEA leaders come to mind. How did we allow for teachers to become so radicalized without stopping them? They teach our kids!! They get them eight hours a day teaching lessons that the vast majority don’t agree with and frankly may be made up of fairy dust and fables. Yet there they are smack in the middle of this agenda to create the thin layer of bureaucrats, government leaders, unions, and large private sector multi billionaires.
So when people say one world government with a single leader and it may end up a series of national governments with the same intentions it maybe be a matter of “tomato or tomoto” for us at the bottom. The only difference is the opportunity for nationalism to take hold. If one nation, just one, balks at this effort, many may follow. Nobody likes to see one nation with more freedom then they have. That is another basic human trait. You can see restlessness in certain nations now including of all places Germany and France. However, they are centuries into being civilized by those in charge and have accepted the status quo, even though they sense they are being screwed over. It will take an earthquake to shake them loose.
But here, even after all of these years of dumbing down our kids, hiding our unique history, laughing at our special status in the world, the left realizes WE are still their greatest threat. Why? Because they moved twenty years too soon. There are too many men and women still alive who remember the way it was, the way it should be. The left will try to ban us, harass us, harm us. They will do their best to give us “leaders” who say the right thing but do the wrong thing (Ben Nelson, Lindsey Graham, even McCain) as a way to soothe our fears and put us back to sleep. Do not be distracted. If we don’t act and act now, the next generation will have even less of a chance to change things.
I’ve said this for a long time. Do not be confused, this is not politics this is a war. A war between those who would rule and those who refuse to be ruled. As you know I’ve been blogging a lot lately about Mao’s last cultural revolution. You would be surprised how far the man whose actions are admired by some in the current administration went to push his vision forward in his own nation. What was more surprising was how many went along without a peep, some killing, on the word of Mao, children. We are generations away from breeding students willing to murder on the word of a “dear leader” like in China. But if it can happen there it can happen here.
If we let it.
The European "statist model" is especially dangerous...
rbdwiggins (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 12:41PM EST (link)because it gives the illusion of sovereignty and liberty, and it’s manufactured entirely from a lie.
“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan
Archer- I disagree in part
Scope (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 12:42PM EST (link)you say you don’t believe that there will be just one world leader, but, rather a makeup of a few regional leaders. You include the statement “it is the nature of man to rule man, and for many it’s in their nature to be ruled.” So, then, someone has to be pulling the strings, calling the shots, making the rules. Who will be that person to rule over the regional leaders? They will always fight for that leadership position. It would be like saying that all members in our current Congress must all be ruled by one, and accept that person’s decisions. The Senators and Reps can be considered to be regional leaders representing their respective states. The Democrats fight for control over the Republicans, and vise versa. Everyone wants the top voice. How do you think that would play out with say Chinas leaders, Russia’s leaders and Canada’s leaders? They all have very different perspectives coming from their own regional traditions and governments. Do you think they would get an overall consesus on whose ideas are the right and correct ones? I don’t think so. It will always be a battle for control, and, as you say “man needing to control man.”
I’ve read your website for quite awhile, and have agreed with much of what you say and believe. For example, you had articles a while ago talking about Obama’s narsasistic and arrogant attributes. Do you think for a minute that Obama would one day look in the mirror and accept that he is not what he thinks he is? You made a very good case for exactly why Obama needs to be on top. Do you think Putin would go along with that or Hugo Chavez or Castro, or any number of dictators?
I honestly believe that Obama has his eye on the top spot, and, is willing to destroy the US in getting there. I wonder what happens when Humpty Empty Dumpty falls off the wall? which he will no doubt do. Hopefully we can put the pieces of the US back together again after his fall.
Sounds like more P.O.O.P. from O'bama
tele64 Saturday, January 2nd at 1:27AM EST (link)P.O.O.P. President O’bama’s Oppressive Plan…
Snark off...........
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 1:58AM EST (link)Post it, don’t post it….. Post it, don’t post it. The debate in my gut went for two hours.
Screw it…… I’m not holding anything in anymore. A while back, I stopped caring what people think of me. If I can’t be honest, I can’t be anything.
We’re in trouble….. bigger trouble than most people have a clue about….. including me.
Many people here at RS probably consider me part of the black helicopter and tin-foil hat crowd and that’s fine. Think what you will.
Thing is, for the past few years, I’ve been saying just about everything that people seem to be just now realizing and/or deducing and have put up on this new diary of Erick’s right here and offered commentary.
I’m not looking for anything, don’t want anything, nor am I the type of person to say “see, I told you so”, because it’s never been about me and……. The single last thing I ever EVER wanted to be is right about this, even a little.
I happen to have something active in me that each and every one of you have, but may be unable or unwilling to go there……. the ability to easily see a long-term big-picture view of many things, especially when it comes to backline and seemingly unstated motives.
So right now, you’re you’re pretty much calling me an egotistical schmuck and worse…… No worries, I don’t care. Have at it.
Here’s the deal…… This has GOT TO STOP being about Obama as the main thing……. He’s a figurehead….. a damn dangerous figurehead, but a figurehead nonetheless.
Soros ? Dude’s got money and comes across as pure evil for damn sure, but in the “player” part of this stuff ? Mr. Soros is akin to a hot dog vendor on a badly travel street corner in a small town with one traffic light.
It’s ALL of them…… the entire administration……. from the high-level appointees, to the bottom feeders…….. they’re all part of it….. and the people pulling the strings are starting to move….. what Glen Beck called the “go go go moment”….. that isn’t an instant switch, but a build-up from multiple angles at once.
If this nation stays on the same path, Congress will be pretty much irrelevant after the next few months. They’re fairly out of it now and don’t realize it either, because the ‘Czars’ haven’t really kicked in “nudging” yet……… Hey, is the water back on in Cali yet ?
There’s a solid and impenetrable shell of regulations being built around the Constitution and Bill Of Rights so dense that you won’t be able to see the parchment, let alone the words.
It’s taking place jointly in Congress now, in the form of a few lines in a Bill here, a paragraph or two in legislation there…….. but soon will just come out of nondescript offices from faceless alphabet soup agency names.
I suggested something in one of my last diaries to not watch what they’re saying, but to watch what they’re doing.
POTUS is on TV daily, many times multiple different appearances……. know why ? So you pay attention to what HE’s SAYING and freak out over all of it, not knowing what to address first……… while he and (more importantly) the people within the administration are DOING many other things that we all have ZERO idea about and won’t find out unless we look where the stuff is hidden….. most of it in plain sight….. or we don’t find out about what they’re doing until it’s too late.
That (now supposedly benign) amended Exec. Order 12425 ? It’s anything but benign and actually has just a little bit to do with Interpol and more to do with The R2P monstrosity that’s going to take Interpol and make it an International Marshalls Service as the sole L.E.O. agency with the ICC as the sole court source…… you guess for where.
The documents that Ms. Estrada is going through is tip of the iceberg and it’s all drawn through The UN, which itself is going to morph into a hydra of incredible reach.
Sometimes the black helicopter tin-foil hat weirdos are wrong – so wrong that it’s comical. Sometimes they’re kind of right, but still really over the top and you want to brush them off the edge like crumbs on an end table,
But what if………….. Well…. What if on some things they might not be going far enough in that ‘living-in-Mom’s-basement-playing-dungeons-and-dragons-card-carrying-bizarro-world-dwelling” abstract thinking about what’s they think to be on the horizon…… like what’s showing up as fact right now ?
I probably lost y’all at the 2nd sentence way up top, so I’ll stop typing now.
But I won’t stop digging and I’ll never ever give up on trying to help righting the ship that is the USS USA.
Again…….. We’re in trouble….. bigger trouble than most people have a clue about….. including me.
What if you wake up one sunny morning and it’s simply too dangerous to walk out of your home to go to the grocery store….. that may or may not have anything in it…. if the building is functional or there at all. What do you do ?
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OK, I just needed to get that all out (mostly for settling my own nerves), because this ICR2P thing is about as scary as anything I’ve ever seen since hearing the stories from my relatives who had the numbers on their arms.
After I hit the “post comment” button on this, I’m gonna go back to the snarkariffic maniac y’all know me to be…… because boy oh boy, there’s some material out there that is beggin’ for it.
Deadliest of Obama's screw-ups?
barrypopik (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 7:04AM EST (link)As I’ve said (above), I think the deadliest of Obama’s screw-ups is letting Iran get a nuclear weapon and leaving Israel defenseless. Obama is also leaving Iran’s brave citizenry defenseless.
I think Obama is also leaving Taiwan defenseless for a possible invasion from China.
I think Obama is also leaving Eastern Europe defenseless, getting absolutely no concessions from Russia for it.
I think Obama is also leaving the U.S. defenseless, disarming us as Russia eliminates outdated weaponry.
It doesn’t take conspiracy theories. All you have to do is to look what’s going on.
My favorite phrase is WAKE UP!!
The terrifying part
Christine (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 9:25AM EST (link)Kenny, I’ve been in the “Obama is an inexperienced fool” camp since day 1, but have kept warnings and information such as what you have here in the back of my mind.
If you’re even a little bit right (and every day brings me closer to that possibility), the problem won’t be you or people like you. It will be those who are further into the black-helicopter camp than anyone can imagine,,,those who will believe any nonsense that slips into their inboxes and shout it from the mountains as if proven fact.
As the exterme CT people get louder, people like yourself will not be heard. The others will get airtime so their points can be resoundly laughed at and put down.
When the truth, whatever it is, finally comes out….there will be enough damage done that it won’t be initially believed. That will be by design.
This is what really worries me.
The primary process is FLAWED. Two states should not decide our candidate.
“I would be a poor Commander in Chief”
– Barack Obama, July 3 2008
Kenny- Some things need to be said
Scope (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 11:10AM EST (link)or shouted from the rooftops. I don’t consider you a radical tin foil hatter. As Trealina said below, it’s those idiots that shout nonsense that can neither be proven or are irrational that will make the rational people appear to be in the same box.
Back a year or so ago, anyone bringing up what were considered “conspiracy theories” were burned at the proverbial stake as being gulliable idiots. Some deserved that burning. The birther crowd deserves ostracizing, simply because they fail to understand that Obama will never be impeached with overwhelming majorities in the House and Senate. What you have posted, as well as Vernocia and some others, are provable valid movements by the Communist regime. There are so many things happening at once, most can’t keep up with it all, or are just too frightened to accept that this can really be happening in the USA. That is happening intentionally, so as to overload the system, or peoples brains. A year ago, I was in the too friegtened too contemplate category, but, have woken up to the reality that there is some really bad stuff going on.
The Republican leaders in Congress, and many more than just Mitch McConnell are well aware of what is happening. While I do not excuse them for one minute for being spineless cowards, it seems that if they brought sunlight to all that is being done behind closed doors, they will be made to appear as radical conspiracy theorists, or that they have gone off the deep end, and ridiculed as such, even by many Republicans. Look at the number of posters here at Redstate that still choose to believe that Obama is just incompetent, and excuse it all away for that reason. Again, it is just too much to believe that the Communists in power would do such a thing, because at no other time in the history of the United States has anyone gotten this far in the march to Communism.
No matter what anyone chooses to believe, or not believe, it is critical that those with provable facts, such as the INTERPOL Executive Order, must must keep saying it over and over in a rational manner, with facts to back up their statements. The Communists have so very successfully propagandized a majority of our citizenry, with lies, decit, and repeating their propaganda over and over until that’s all many hear and remember. It must be countered over and over. Our elected representatives will not do it. We the people must peacefully rise over this coup, and call it exactly what it is. Political Correctness be damn@d. I have become immune to being called a racist or any other negative tag.
PS- Those that still listen to anything O’Reilly or Hannity have to say, please stop. They have almost become Obama sympathizers. They can reach their hands and arms out across the aisle to be liked or admired, I choose to keep my hands and arms intact.
PS- It may be
Scope (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 11:23AM EST (link)that some are afraid to speak up so as not to create mass fear and pandemonim with the public. That may well be just what is needed to wake people up from their state of disbelief, before it is too late.
Thanks, Scope... that was needed.
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 12:21PM EST (link)I’ll say this, not as an alarmist, but simply for preservation:
Everyone reading this better be able to protect themselves and their families and their property.
I am not talking about only having a toy or toys that go bang.
I mean with facts, simple truth, freedom in your heart and more……. and yeah, just for schmittes and giggles, let’s include in this having multiple toys that go bang, God forbid we actually need them.
Those who refuse to wake up, just move on from them….. no more games, no more being nice. When/if the SHTF. leave them be. They’re either part of it, or belong in the stoooooopid generation that helped bring it all about.
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rcov092 (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 12:25PM EST (link)Maybe tin foil is effective at enabling one to reason logically from the evidence presented.
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Right on KennySolomon
ecroper Monday, January 4th at 12:07PM EST (link)Dont need a hat , just need more toys!!! You see, I’ve been feeling this same way for some time. When I mention anything to any body I know they look at me like I’m some kind of nut job. anyway, thanks for saying for whats on my heart.May God bless and protect you and yours and ours. I choose to play in my sandbox with my own rules. God Bless the USA
Obama's sugar daddy
silvernana Saturday, January 2nd at 2:55AM EST (link)I came across this a few days ago. I apologize for not knowing how to link to this (not very computer literate) but it is very interesting and may be the clue to a lot of what Obama is doing.
On YouTube, check out “Obama – His Islamic Supremacist Benefactor” and “Islamic Supremacist Paid Obama’s Law School”.
I’ve always felt Soros was Obama’s puppetmaster, but now I’m not so sure it is him alone, and from reading a lot of the above statements there are a lot of you who feel the same. The Saudi prince revealed explains the bow perhaps. In addition to trying to turn the US into a communist country, he may be trying to turn it into an Islamic one also. Anyway, please listen to the tapes – I will be interested in your opinions.
links to the videos
LDahl752 (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 8:40AM EST (link)Silvernana, here’s the first one (Obama-His Islamic Supremacist Benefactor):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJzU056ccV4
and here’s the second one (Islamic Supremacist Paid Obama’s Law School):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD068xXkCZc
Both are troubling. Radical Islam has a goal of establishing a “New Caliphate,” stretching from Indonesia, west through Spain and north through Europe. Next will be the Islamification of the USA. Once Sharia Law is prevalent across the globe, will people look back and wonder why there was so little “vetting” done of BHO as a candidate? Will the so-called “press” wonder why they were more inclined to advance his career than to be curious about where he had been and what he had done during his early adulthood?
Linda D, Henderson NV
links to the videos
LDahl752 (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 8:40AM EST (link)Silvernana, here’s the first one (Obama-His Islamic Supremacist Benefactor):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJzU056ccV4
and here’s the second one (Islamic Supremacist Paid Obama’s Law School):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD068xXkCZc
Both are troubling. Radical Islam has a goal of establishing a “New Caliphate,” stretching from Indonesia, west through Spain and north through Europe. Next will be the Islamification of the USA. Once Sharia Law is prevalent across the globe, will people look back and wonder why there was so little “vetting” done of BHO as a candidate? Will the so-called “press” wonder why they were more inclined to advance his career than to be curious about where he had been and what he had done during his early adulthood?
Linda D, Henderson NV
Finally - it's becoming clear
kfaulkner Saturday, January 2nd at 3:01AM EST (link)“this White House is willfully trying to sabotage the intelligence community ”
Willfully trying to sabotage:
– the economy (unrecoverable debt)
– our energy industry (cap & tax)
– our health care system (ObamaCare)
– our counter-terrorism systems (close Gitmo, “man-caused disasters”, KSM, …)
– what’s next?
None of the above makes sense to people because everyone is going under the assumption that these people are loyal Americans – they are NOT. They are TRAITORS. They should be treated like the traitors they are.
Kenny, and anyone else, you're welcome here...
nessa (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 3:06AM EST (link)…in NC. Now I’m not in the mountains, or anywhere protected other than being beside my borthers in arms on Ft Bragg. This is not a mistake, it is the next step in the apology tour(s). America, by Ofama’s reconing needs to be guilty, we already are found so. INTERPOL, the ICC and all the other liberal, progressive groups are willing to promote each other’s agenda to progress their own, and they do it daily. They may not dance naked around a bonfire wearing goat heads and fornicate in the limelight, but the result is the same. They promote the same agenda, progressives, enviro-wackos, socialists, communists, leftists…
There may not be secret meetings complete with the hollywood promoted chanting and nudity but there is an agreed upon agenda, and all parties are willing to support the furtherance of that agenda…
Remember, the maximum effective range of modern weapons is 5-600 meters, plan your defense accordingly. Larger calibers are effective at further distances, Come get me…
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I would add to this
gunnerbs (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 8:45AM EST (link)I think it is smart to have a “They’re coming to get my guns” gun. IMHO .30 caliber is the right size (Think SKS, M1A/M14, M1 Garand) but it really doesn’t matter–just get out and start shooting. If you are interested, check out the Appleseed project. I think it would behoove us all to start becoming riflemen again–that’s what the Appleseed project is about.
And BTW, I don’t think they’ll be as brazen as to ban guns outright–but have you tried to buy any ammo lately? Even getting primers to reload with is getting harder.
I start with the premise that NO ONE has a right to my Life, Liberty, or Property. Beyond that I’m open to discussion.
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Thanks Nessa......
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 7:40AM EST (link)“Temporary alliances” – Somewhat conflicting agendas and without actual set-in-stone op planning……., but with one seriously unstable combined ‘consulting’ source having it’s own agenda trying to get an op plan set in stone (UN) that has an even more bizarre goal than the peace-lovers or any somewhat sovereign nation might care to consider.
Basically you hit it without the actual term.
Here’s two lil’ ol’ examples……..
Does anyone think for one second that the 12th Imam loons will tolerate The Norks in the slightest ?
China accepting “arse up 5 times per day” literally at the end of a sword no less ? That fight, if it goes hot, would last all of three, maybe four minutes.
But the R2P thing out of The UN……. that’s just…….. whoa…… military fiction writers have nothing on those folks.
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Anyway, Nessa, you saw that one photo of my place on the golf course……. I’ve an interesting and totally unplanned to happen KZ here… not that my place is armored by any means….. I’ll mail ya.
Repeat after me........
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 8:50AM EST (link)‘Reply To This’ is my friend……. ‘Reply To This’ is my friend……. ‘Reply To This’ is my friend…….
I am going with willfully trying to destroy the intelligence community...nt
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 7:41AM EST (link)…..
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Although Liberals Do Exist In The CIA...We Know The Left Hates "The Company"
Ausonius (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 8:37AM EST (link)As mentioned above, there are indeed East-Coast liberal elitists in the CIA, at least according to my last source there.
They can act – e.g. Valerie Plame Nonsense – against an administration. But I believe that a majority of CIA members, whether conservative or liberal, really do not like interference from anyone.
And they really do not like being exposed to the public.
Knowing the Leftist philosophic hostility against the whole idea of the CIA, and knowing that MAObama is the ultimate leftist today, the equation as to whether he is blundering here or deliberately undermining the CIA is easy to solve.
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From Veronica's info about INTERPOL
Scope (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 9:27AM EST (link)and looking directly at their website, they name the American Liasions, and, the FBI is one of them, but, the CIA is not. So if their purpose is to work with “intelligence agencies” of member countries, why is the CIA left out.
Also, I had linked an article concerning Mr. Haskell’s (flight 253 passenger) eye witness account of an apparent cover-up by the FBI, as to them holding a second bomber on the flight, it appears the FBI is being protected. The article is over at BigGovernment website.
I just put a RedHot up Scope about the NW 253 LIE...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 10:09AM EST (link)It is the federal government that has LOST its morals and feels compelled to immediately LIE to Americans obviously not realizing WE KNOW they are LYING!
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JBP, I humbly suggest a slight context adjustment and closing.
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 10:18AM EST (link)See if you spot the difference.
It is the federal government that has LOST its morals and feels compelled to immediately LIE to Americans obviously not caring that WE KNOW they are LYING because this is just the tip of the iceberg of what’s coming.
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You don’t have to thank me, because I’m NOT from teh gubmint and I’m here to help.
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I honestly feel quite the dangerously snarklish today, so anyone out there in lefty-land reading this, be careful what you put out as “news”. I’m watching.
ROTF!!...nt
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 10:19AM EST (link)…
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Most excellent Jaded
Scope (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 11:56AM EST (link)Thank you for doing that as it should be a Red Hot story for everyone. I had not seen the article you linked, and, it is very interesting.
According to the Haskell’s, this is the 4th version of the story about the second bomber. It is laughable that they say the dog sniffed some food or plant material, and, that that is what alerted them. Good God in heaven, how dumb do they think people are. Now they are throwing the dogs literally “to the dogs” or under the bus. Food or plants??????
The fact that they say the Indian “man in orange”, as the Haskell’s describe him, was released, should make everyone’s hair stand up. The cover up is still in place. If I am not mistaken the sniffing dogs were bomb sniffing dogs, not food or plant sniffing dogs. If the dog “smelled” something in the man’s carryon, he should still be in custody, until the carryon has gone through extensive investigation. He may not have had a bomb in the bag, but why would his bag or anything in it have come anywhere near contact with bombs or the materials to make one.
This is getting weirder and weider.
The CIA will be on their scope. They are a danger to Interpol.
rcov092 (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 12:31PM EST (link)FBI not so much as the FBI focuses internally.
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CIA wouldn't be the link
Achance (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 12:33PM EST (link)because CIA technically has no authority to act inside the US. Historically, there have been huge battles between FBI and OSS/CIA over the intelligence services attempts to operate inside the US, a jurisdiction very jealously guarded by the FBI, especially under Hoover.
Since the ’70s “reforms” and Hoover’s death, the lines have become very blurry and there has been a prolifieration of intelligence and counter-intelligence agecies in addition to CIA. This separation is one of the reasons for the problem of “connecting the dots” when foreign agents attempt to act inside the US. The FBI and the CIA and other entities acting in foreign lands don’t always communicate very well and sometimes don’t communicate at all.
Hoover and his disciples never trusted OSS/CIA because they believed, rightly I think, that OSS/CIA had been thoroughly penetrated by the NDVD/KGB/GRU and had one or more high level moles. Since the “fall” of the USSR, we as a Country have lost all sense of these issues so it is fair to assume that both FBI and CIA as well as other intelligence and security agencies have been thoroughly penetrated by foreign intelligence agents and moles. Certainly, few allied intelligence agencies trust the US services because of the propensity to leak.
In Vino Veritas
This train wreck of a president is pathologically incapable of taking responsibility
RedBeard Saturday, January 2nd at 8:00AM EST (link)Well, unless he’s taking credit for something that he had nothing to do with implementing. The rest of his modus operandi is to deflect, distract, assign blame to others, and cover his own backside. Narcissism and hedonism will do that to a guy.
He probably looks at the picture of the sign on Harry Truman’s desk saying THE BUCK STOPS HERE and thinks that it’s just quaint and amusing.
This is hardly his only problem, but it certainly compounds his dogmatic anti-American radicalism and his utter lack of experience and executive competence,
Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.
In case you missed this photo:
LDahl752 (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 8:53AM EST (link)It’s from early December — a “MOSQUE prayer session AT THE WHITE
HOUSE.”
http://snipurl.com/ty2sa
But, the National Day of Prayer deserved NO ATTENTION from this president.
Linda D, Henderson NV
In case you missed this photo:
LDahl752 (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 8:53AM EST (link)It’s from early December — a “MOSQUE prayer session AT THE WHITE
HOUSE.”
http://snipurl.com/ty2sa
But, the National Day of Prayer deserved NO ATTENTION from this president.
Linda D, Henderson NV
If we have a third attack under
renny (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 8:57AM EST (link)his *watch,* his domestic policy march will be undermined beyond repair. I think the WH is probably really afraid of any other bungle on the foreign agenda, as it forces them to shift the laser stare from wrecking the ec. to pretending they know something about national sec.
My Sens., obviously scared of health care fallout, are now advertising how the Obamanationcare krap will benefit NJ that under two Dem. gov.’s managed to produce 6500 private jobs and 20,000 state jobs (under a hiring freeze). They advertise the phone (and it is) as 202-224/225-3121. SO, give them a call and tell them what jerks they are.
Oops -- that wasn't at the WH
LDahl752 (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 9:00AM EST (link)That photo was from April at a Mosque in Istanbul. Sorry! Apparently the Resistnet site was terribly misinformed; and, I bought into it.
And, I don’t know why the previous comment posted twice. Honest, I pushed the button only once!
Linda D, Henderson NV
Oops -- that wasn't at the WH
LDahl752 (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 9:00AM EST (link)That photo was from April at a Mosque in Istanbul. Sorry! Apparently the Resistnet site was terribly misinformed; and, I bought into it.
And, I don’t know why the previous comment posted twice. Honest, I pushed the button only once!
Linda D, Henderson NV
Here's a link to back that up
bkeyser Saturday, January 2nd at 10:12AM EST (link)http://www.thejidf.org/2009/12/turkey-obama-cozies-up-to-erdogan.html
If this was a protocol faux pas, it was easily avoided
smagar (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 9:58AM EST (link)1) After the suicide bombing, President Obama asks his CIA Director, trusted Democratic pol Leon Panetta, how the White House should handle the matter.
CIA Director calls White House, strongly advises him to go with the option listed in Step 3 above, and explains why.
2) CIA Director asks his career staff for their recommendations
3) Career staff recommends: respond in a low-key manner
4) CIA Director briefs the White House
5) White House responds that it wants a more public response
6) CIA Director checks with his career staff
7) Career staff tells him that’s a very bad idea
9) WH executes Step 3
If this is a cultural thing within the CIA…you respect the culture.
More to the point, you recognize that many of the people now working in the Executive Branch came from communities (e.g., academia, liberal America) that think of the CIA as a slimy place, populated by sinister people. Therefore, chances are good they don’t fully understand the CIA’s culture, much less respect it.
So, you take the recommendations of YOUR staff with a grain of salt, and instead you defer to the recommendations of THEIR staff.
“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)
OK---the smiley face is supposed to be Number 8. Drat. nt
smagar (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 9:58AM EST (link)“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)
Come to think of it, this could REALLY be bad for...
smagar (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 10:03AM EST (link)…any CIA official who got promoted to a high post BECAUSE of Obama’s election, and whose job was to give the Executive Branch good advice on how to work with the CIA.
Perhaps, the WH took advice from a senior CIA official who got their job more for their tightness with The One, as opposed to their skill as an analyst, case officer or bureaurcratic operative.
That person/those people might be scanning the list of open overseas postings right about now
“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)
Erick, regarding your last statement:
throwback59 Saturday, January 2nd at 10:13AM EST (link)“Either this White House is willfully trying to sabotage the intelligence community or they are rank amateurs.”
Isn’t it obvious that they are both?
Malice Intended
conservativegeorgian43 (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 12:07PM EST (link)“Either this White House is willfully trying to sabotage the intelligence community or they are rank amateurs. I pray to God in Heaven it is the latter.”
They are definitely amateurs and screw ups – but they hate the intelligence community and do everything possible to undermine them There is definitely malice here. Scumbags!
Conservativegeorgian, I hate to tell you this.......
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 12:43PM EST (link)They’re not screw-ups ; they know exactly what they’re doing.
They’ve had decades of ramping up and learning to “nudge” instead of hammer.
I guarantee you this though……. On a personal level, when/if push comes to shove, my hammer is gonna take their nudging and slam it up their………….. yeah.
Umar Farouk's Terrorist Triumph
jeannieology (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 1:02PM EST (link)http://jeannie-ology.com/?p=4940
What's Wrong With Both?
Tom_Holsinger Saturday, January 2nd at 1:08PM EST (link)How about both willfully sabotaging national intelligence AND screwing up?
I rather see him screw up...
anotherindyfilmguy (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 1:14PM EST (link)Specifically I’d like to see him slip and screw up at his hobby/job of hurting the US. Especially to see it gnaw at him to know he actually helped…
Santorum? Well, at least he’s not Romney…
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I am amazed at the American public's
izoneguy (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 1:21PM EST (link)lack of concern – during this time of a tyrannical, maniac at the helm.
Most everyone I know displays a cautious optimism that is hard to explain. It is like we are all on the train headed to the camps and
everyone thinks the scenery is lovely as is passes by.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
agree izoneguy.
louisiana (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 2:18PM EST (link)I can’t even break through my own family’s complacency. Your camp analogy is right on the mark. If you’ve ever watched any documentaries about holocaust survivors, almost to the person they stated they couldn’t believe such evil existed & then believed when word got out, they would be rescued. We ignore history at our own peril.
People would rather believe
proudmarinemom (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 5:30PM EST (link)in the Disney movie version of Good vs. Evil. Good always, always triumphs over Evil in the end.
There is no Disney version of Elie Wiesel’s “Night”. His neighbor, Moshe saw Evil approaching and pleaded with anyone who would listen to arm themselves or flee. He was called an idiot, an alarmist, a dolt, a racist– the equivalent of a “right-wing-nut teabagger.” After a while, he withdrew and became isolated and silent. When the Nazis arrived, he was vindicated. Then he was exterminated, along with his neighbors.
Most Americans are not listening. Keep talking until they do.
The law of unintended consequences strikes again...
anotherindyfilmguy (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 1:13PM EST (link)Unfortunately the O is either so arrogant or foolish to not listen to the career people advising him or he is willfully attempting to make things worse.
If someone is driving their vehicle recklessly and cause the death of a person they may be charged with manslaughter. If someone is driving their vehicle to deliberately kill someone they may be charged with murder. Two results are similar, someone is killed and the killer may face prison time to a varying degree or be executed. In either case don’t expect them to be driving anymore…
Whether the O is being deliberate or reckless in his screwing the US is a matter of debate until evidence proves it either way. The question for the rest of us is “why is he being allowed to continue screwing up without being called on the carpet by any and every means possible?” Either in the press, which seems to be loving him slightly less with every blunder, or by the House with articles of impeachment for sheer incompetence?
Santorum? Well, at least he’s not Romney…
http://www.zazzle.com/enemy_of_the_statist_tshirt-235977043035297478
Another "historic first"
PGDeFreese (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 3:00PM EST (link)accomplished by this administration.
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Thou art the Great Cat, the avenger of the Gods, and the judge of words…-Inscription on the Royal Tombs at Thebes
Kenny Solomon I don't think you are way off at all
avgamerican (Diary) Saturday, January 2nd at 4:01PM EST (link)I ve been afraid myself to say everything on my mind. But to brief I say Americans are ignoring the threat of globalization. Many of us are too isolated in Republican vs Democrat thinking. I understand that to fight effectively we have to try and reform within our party, but it seems that even the GOP is ignoring INTERPOL. Has anyone considered why the GOP leadership is not criticizing it? This is bigger than a party thing. It is a global control tightening. Huge power moves being revealed very subtley. Okay I admit I have listened to some Alex Jones materia. But now I’ m reading red staters agree with some of it perhaps without even realizing it. President Obama is probably a front man for a bigger fish. Over the past year he has shown complete disregard for popularity polls because he knows that the he is backed by a world governing authority that will in time make the US electoral system irrelevent. It is difficult to know all the details on how this will happen, but I think is more likely it will occur in time. INTERPOL is perhaps the beginning of the muscle behind it.
Actually....Defense
crazymountain Saturday, January 2nd at 11:27PM EST (link)This is just one of a number of screw ups for this administration. He has shown a disdain for America since he took office. When Pelosi told us that the CIA always lied to Congress, when Defense was the only government sector to receive cuts in their budget, he shows that his priorities lie in making America just another average country in the Global Governance plan he has for us. I just read an interesting article in the EUTimes news site that the Russians think Obama is preparing for a civil war, trying to find a million troops who will back him this year when the banking system collapses and this country enters a civil war. He has more interests in appeasing the muslims (as he is one) than protecting America. We will get hit hard by the muslims this year and he will blame Bush. He has made it clear that the largest attack on the US by the muslims (Fort Hood) deserves no publicity and he is downplaying this attack on Christmas on a “lone extremist”. So what now, socialist messiah? Completely turn the war on Islamofascism into a criminal matter? WRONG MOVE, as all your moves have been
If it walks like a duck....
suej (Diary) Sunday, January 3rd at 12:07AM EST (link)I don’t think this is amatuer hour for Obama on ‘messages’ to Al Queda. I believe he is willfully aiding the enemy whenever possible, because he doesn’t see THEM as the enemy. This nation of infedels is the enemy.
Although I'm not a fan of Kathleen Parker, her words:
Old_Crow (Diary) Sunday, January 3rd at 5:32PM EST (link)that Obama is “over-intellectualizing — that he will get lost in a maze of deep thoughts and fail to be decisive when necessary” are quite
true.
“Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm.” — James Madison
I'm just a musician, but
jodetoad Monday, January 4th at 2:35PM EST (link)don’t tacticians plan based on capacity to harm, not on speculations of intent?
Given that we don’t usually contemplate a president being actively anti-American, it only took a couple months for me to consider it. Naturally one prefers the incompetence theory, but for someone to be incompetent in the same direction so consistently appears increasingly unlikely, at least to me.
The convergence of O and this congress is disastrous. I’m not a gun person, but am looking at what might work for me, a smallish woman.
Because the capacity for harm is clear, and whatever the intent, the reality is established. I have done tea parties and all that, and anything else I see that I can do, but it seems wise to be ready for the worst. I hope I am wrong, and I hope somebody comes up with some good ideas to throw a wrench in the gears of the plan. America won’t go quietly, if they insist on forcing these schemes on us it will get very ugly.