I realize we’re playing adolescent word games with the NRSC when it comes to Carly Fiorina. Just last week, John Cornyn said the NRSC would not be endorsing anyone, including Carly Fiorina.
Reconciling that with the fact that the NRSC is entering into a joint fundraising venture with Fiorina is impossible.
The NRSC and the Fiorina campaign joined forces to form the Fiorina Victory Committee, according to paperwork filed with the Federal Election Commission on Dec. 4. The committee allows the party and Fiorina to split funds raised via joint events or appeals.
The CQ article says a few times that the NRSC has not endorsed Fiorina, but that is like Bill Clinton saying he “did not have sexual relations with that woman.” In fact, the NRSC is fully in bed with Fiorina.
Inevitably though, what the NRSC does in response is what they did with CQ.
The NRSC told CQ-Roll Call it is “willing to conduct joint fundraising events with virtually any Republican candidate who asks, provided they have the potential to help the Committee raise money in addition to their own campaigns.”
Of course, what they did not tell CQ is that they really have no intention of doing that. Take Chuck DeVore for example. He has tried a half dozen times to meet with John Cornyn, but has been rebuffed each time. In fact, Cornyn said last week he would love to meet with DeVore, but failed to mention his staff has rebuffed every single offer to meet by the DeVore campaign.
The NRSC cannot keep having it both ways. The Washington punditocracy may buy into the “we have not endorsed anyone” horse hockey, but the rest of us know that line is no better than Clinton’s denial of sex with Lewinsky.
No one is genuinely buying it.
KnightsofMalta
Steve Maley
Caleb Howe
WTF?
redtillimdead (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 3:42PM EST (link)Kelly Ayotte? You are seriously going to fight the woman who went to the supreme court for her pro-life views?
Seriously?
Tell me, what sounds better to you? A young,conservative woman who leads in the polls or the old washed up has-been old conservative man who trails in all the polls?
Trey Grayson. Show me where he is NOT conservative?
Sorry, but I will not not support someone just because they are backed by the establishment.
Nancy Pelosi can kiss my asstroturf.
I left a lengthy response...
Chieftain1776 (Diary) Tuesday, December 15th at 5:23PM EST (link)as to why Grayson is not conservative.
http://www.redstate.com/chieftain1776/2009/12/15/a-defense-of-ericks-endorsement-of-rand-paul/
Ayotte
Daniel Horowitz (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 3:47PM EST (link)God bless your work in California with DeVore, but are you sure that the other two races are good examples? Rand Paul might turn out to be at least as good if not better than Grayson, but Ayotte seems to be the best choice in NH. Is there someone better there?
I'd be curious to see how Bunning is doing now that things have turned against the Dems in the polls
AceInTX (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 5:52PM EST (link)McConnell forced Bunning out because he was polling bad after the McCain fiasco…(yet another example of establishment tom foolery)…how does he look against a likely Dem opponent should he change his mind and run for reelection? How would Republicans react if he decides to stay? wouldn’t that be a better stick in the eye to McConnell and the establishment than Paul or on of the other Republicans running in the primaries? Is anyone in the Republican Party, the conservative movement or the tea party movement doing anything to check this out and or encourage him to stay?
I just saw a speech by Rand Paul.
momofthecastle (Diary) Tuesday, December 15th at 11:28AM EST (link)I liked what I heard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M389Duh09Nk&feature=youtube_gdata
I am actually amenable toward Ayotte
Erick Erickson (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 3:49PM EST (link)And happy to give her a second look. But I’m with Rand Paul all the way in Kentucky.
Who will stand on either hand and keep this bridge with me?Follow @EWErickson
Alternative
Daniel Horowitz (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 3:53PM EST (link)It all has to do with a credible alternative. In KY we have one with Paul (although I want to make sure that he doesn’t share his father’s view on islamofacim). I don’t think we have a better alternative in New Hampshire. Also, Ayotte seems pretty good herself. The next step is to knock off Bennett in Utah with Cherilyn Eagar.
"In KY we have one with Paul (although I want to make sure that he doesn’t share his father’s view on islamofacim)."
Third Street (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 4:09PM EST (link)He does.
“Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.” –Wilkins Micawber, “David Copperfield”
He is one senator.
bucfish Monday, December 14th at 7:08PM EST (link)And at least he brings up more pressing issues like the debt and such. I mean how many people knew the about the Federal Reserve in this country three years ago? Besides terrorism is the least of our worries the greatest enemies to our Constitution are in DC. And Grayson is slapping their backs at big $$$ fundraisers in DC. Grayson worked for Clintons campaign too in the 90′s.
Cherilyn Eagar
arc_ut (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 11:57PM EST (link)I agree that knocking out Senator Bob Bennett from Utah would be a great step forward, and that Cherilyn Eagar is the best candidate running or planning to run for his seat.
disagree
utahhealthinsurance Sunday, January 3rd at 1:58PM EST (link)Obviously I would disagree with Arc. Mike Lee is the best candidate with the best chance to win against Bob Bennett and will prove so immediately following his entrance into the race.
thanks Erick for the second look
pilgrim (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 4:12PM EST (link)I don’t want my gallery of 2010 freshman senate class to be minus Ayotte.
http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/2009/12/09/2010-us-senate-freshman-class/
Erick- Many here rely on your opinions and endorsements
Scope (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 9:08PM EST (link)what is it with Rand Paul that has convinced you to back him? I’m sure not many, including me know much abot Rand. What has he done to warrant your support?
!!!RandPaulRandPaulRandPaul!!!
Third Street (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 3:58PM EST (link)Ah, Erick, you realize that the alternative to Grayson is the Son Of The Most Holy Prophet Himself, right? The Apostle Paul? WeDeserved9/11, The Next Generation? Seriously? And what’s wrong with Grayson in the first place, that makes him unacceptable?
I’m with redtillimdead; I don’t see endorsement by the NRSC as an automatic reason to oppose a candidate. Crist and Fiorina are one thing, but Grayson? Ayotte? Ayotte is the only serious Republican candidate in that race.
“Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.” –Wilkins Micawber, “David Copperfield”
I am 1000000% on board with Rand Paul
Erick Erickson (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 4:08PM EST (link)n/t
Who will stand on either hand and keep this bridge with me?Follow @EWErickson
I'm sorry to hear that, because he's a clone of his dad.
Third Street (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 4:11PM EST (link)And I despise his dad.
“Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.” –Wilkins Micawber, “David Copperfield”
I'm not sold on Paul
redtillimdead (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 4:14PM EST (link)I support Grayson until I see some sign that Rand Paul is different than Ron Paul. I will do some research on him, but so far, I’m for Grayson
Nancy Pelosi can kiss my asstroturf.
I am really sorry to hear you're throwing in with Paul
red_oakster (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 5:34PM EST (link)It seems at odds with the hawkish foreign policy I thought was central to your and Red State’s principles.
Remember
bucfish Monday, December 14th at 7:17PM EST (link)Blessed are the peacemakers…
I wouldn't worry as much with Ron paul as a Senator..so if Rand is like his Dad on foreign policy...I don't see a problem
AceInTX (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 6:45PM EST (link)where Ron Paul goes off the rails to crazy town is on Foreign Policy…and a Senator doesn’t really influence it except on treaties…I wouldn’t oppose either as a Senator
Id rather have a few dozen more Rand or Ron's
kyle8 (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 6:59PM EST (link)in congress than either the Rino’s we have been facing, or more Democrats. They only way they would be problematic is if they were a large enough group to form a voting block.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
agreed nt
AceInTX (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 7:09PM EST (link)He is one senator.
bucfish Monday, December 14th at 7:11PM EST (link)And at least he brings up more pressing issues like the debt and such. I mean how many people knew the about the Federal Reserve in this country three years ago? Besides terrorism is the least of our worries the greatest enemies to our Constitution are in DC. And Grayson is slapping their backs at big $$$ fundraisers in DC. Grayson worked for Clintons campaign too in the 90′s.
And why despise Ron he is at least totally honest. Which is refreshing in a way.
Is Bill Johnson a leper?
Crimefyter Wednesday, December 16th at 9:49AM EST (link)There is an alternative Conservative candidate in KY. www.kentuckybill.com
He is grassroots…he’s gaining support throughout the state….his message is resonating with the people. Just thought I’d ask in case I and many others are missing something.
Ayotte?
Don't Tase Me Bro Monday, December 14th at 4:11PM EST (link)What’s wrong with Kelly Ayotte? She is a great shot to hold the seat and I don’t have any issues with her. There is no logic in opposing her run and who would take her place?
As for Fiorna, I am all for supporting strong conservative candidates when it makes sense to, but I’m not sure DeVore is able to win in a state like California. I obviously wouldn’t support Fiorina in Arizona or Nevada or one of the nearby mountain states, but we’re talking about California here. When the last time a conservative anybody won any state wide race in that state?
I’m with you on Grayson. Rand Paul is much more suitable.
It’s been one thing when we’ve taken on folks like Arlen Specter and Frank Murkowski and such. They were so horrible that losing the seat wouldn’t have changed that much anyway. But when you start going after Kelly Ayotte (and maybe Fiorina, I don’t know) I think you begin to cut off your nose to spite your own face.
Devore
redtillimdead (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 4:13PM EST (link)His ideology can win statewide. He just doesn’t have the money.
Nancy Pelosi can kiss my asstroturf.
Even if I agreed with that ....
Joshua Trevino (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 4:19PM EST (link)…. and I don’t — but even if I did, isn’t that something you and the grassroots can do something about?
Funds and victory do not spring ex nihilo into being.
We are but warriors for the working-day.
What Josh said
Bill S (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 4:56PM EST (link)When Marco Rubio barely had two nickels to rub together, we didn’t let that stop us from supporting him over Crist, did it? And look where he is now – on the cusp of overtaking Charlie.
We can make a difference in Mr. DeVore’s campaign account, just as we did with Rubio. In fact, you can do it right here
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
But Rubio Can Win
Don't Tase Me Bro Monday, December 14th at 7:45PM EST (link)But bs, Rubio can win the Senate seat in Florida if he defeats Crist in the primary. I’m not so sure DeVore can in California.
You're implying that you think Carly can?
Bill S (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 8:25PM EST (link)Bad logic there.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
Know California?
SteveLA (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 8:31PM EST (link)bs
Do you know California, or more properly the voters of CA? If DeVore runs as mainly the social conservative guy, he may win the primary but loose big time in the General election. CA is not a socially conservative state plain and simple.
Make noise about being fiscal conservative, law and order, doing something about illegal aliens, DeVore can win, but what is he going to run as?
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Competency over ideological purity and litmus tests
Steve, would this be the same socially
janis (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 8:42PM EST (link)liberal California that voted down gay marriage?
Many factors in that defeat
SteveLA (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 8:59PM EST (link)janis
A fair question, let me try to answer it.
1) The African American vote was huge, they voted for Obama and they voted for Prop 8. In the AA community “gay” is not something to be proud of. Throw in some very nice gay people dressed in their matching chinos and shirts telling the AA community about civil rights, there was a lot of “I don’t think so”.
This community will not vote in the numbers seen during the last election and they are not going to get excited about a Orange County Republican.
2) Some of the vote against Prop 8 was a statement against Judaical over-reach and Gods in Black Robes telling us what to do. We had to vote for Prop 8 because the CA supreme court threw out Prop 22. Many people who are ambivalent on the topic were very PO’d about that.
3) The last abortion initiative, I voted for it by the way, which added parental notifications to the law went down to defeat.
The claim that CA is turning social conservative based on Prop 8 results ignores at least those few factors and many more.
DeVore can win in CA, but he has to run on issues that touch the middle class in this state; taxes, crime, illegal immigration. It’s up to DeVore to define what his issues are that will make I’s, moderate Rs and moderate D’s vote for him.
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Competency over ideological purity and litmus tests
Kowalski'ing myself
SteveLA (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 9:08PM EST (link)The margin of victory for Prop 8?
52.24 Yes
47.76 No
I attribute a large part of the victory to African Americans, Latino and LDS/Catholic voters who were very energized by their respective churches.
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Competency over ideological purity and litmus tests
you would have a point...if it weren't for McCain Fiengold...but we can't pool, our resources the way the NRSC can
AceInTX (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 6:51PM EST (link)convenient ain’t it?
Neither does Fiorina.
Third Street (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 4:27PM EST (link)If by “doesn’t have the money” you mean “really does have the money; she just isn’t going to actually spend it because even she knows her candidacy is a loser.”
“Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.” –Wilkins Micawber, “David Copperfield”
Do we have confirmation of this?
redtillimdead (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 5:51PM EST (link)I haven’t seen Fiorina’s FEC report. I’ve seen Devore’s and it ain’t pretty!
Nancy Pelosi can kiss my asstroturf.
But, I thought that Fiorino was going to self fund
ceili_dancer (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 6:40PM EST (link)Call me delusional, but I thought a few months back that the NRSC “endorsed” Fiorino because she could and would self fund freeing up cash for other boondoggles the NRSC wants to get in to.
Fiorina is loaning her campaign money.
Joshua Trevino (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 7:42PM EST (link)She revealed this two weeks into her effort. By contrast, DeVore is paying his bills 100% through funds raised.
You tell me which of the two efforts is sustainable through November 2010.
We are but warriors for the working-day.
Makes me wonder if the NRSC is still funneling money to Charlie Crist
nelsa (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 4:12PM EST (link)The NRSC has been a complete joke this year. They have been supporting candidates that they believe will win other than sticking to conservative principles.
The race in Florida between Marco Rubio and Charlie Crist is a perfect example of this indesicsion by the NRSC.
The story I wrote in early November about it is somewhat long but it pulls together a lot of the points that Erick is making.
NRSC Dumps Crist for Now
http://voterubio2010.blogspot.com/2009/11/nrsc-dumps-crist-for-now.html
Disagree: Country First
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 4:19PM EST (link)We can dream on conservative tides, but this fight is far from over. NH is one a few possible gains for the Dems. Paul Hodes ca nwin. Its a two vote swing.
Obama is not going anywhere in 2010. To me, stalling his agends is more important than seeking revenge against the “establishment”.
I feared this. Every ‘ham and egger’ outsider is now going to stick a Tea Party label on their forehead and undiscerning conservatives ar egoing to jump on their bandwagon because they look good on paper from afar.
If Ovide Lamogtagne was so courageous, why has he been a ghost since he was crushed in 1996. He’s done nothing for the party.
Back when NH was a Red State, he lost by 17 points to Jeanne Shaheen in the race for Governor. His pathetic campaign actually helped give power to the Dems and helped turn the state Blue. He’s just not a good candidate. And now he is being opportunistic. I wont be duped. The others are nobodys and moderates.
A two vote swing is too important. Ayotte is fine. Ayotte for Senate. Country first.
A Better NH Rundown: Ovide Lost in 1992 and 1996; Also Went TO NRSC For Help
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 6:17PM EST (link)Sean Mahoney, independent business = OUT
Bill Binney, liberal Republican = IN
Then there is Ovide and Kelly.
As I noted, Ovide lost the gubernatorial race to Shaheen by 17 points in 1996. I forgot he lost the Republican Primary for Congress in 1992 by 15 points.
One more tidbit. Ovide went to Washington last summer to solicit support from the NRSC. After that, they held an event for Kelly in D.C. That was the event that changed everything. They never endorsed Kelly. But Ovide felt spurned, and probably justifiably so. But dont buy the meme that he is some Tea Party outsider now. He’s just riding the tide.
The difference between Kelly and Ovide is negligible. The main difference is that Kelly whips Hodes in every poll and Ovide, a has been perennial loser, does not.
Ovide and the NRSC:
http://nhpoliticalreport.com/lamontagne-meets-with-nrsc/
One More Thing: Judd Gregg and Ayotte Are Friends
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 7:26PM EST (link)That is the source of her “establishment” status. Gregg was reluctant to retire without finding a suitable replacement. He personally lobbied her. It was he who held the event for Ayotte in D.C. Whatever the NRSC’s invovlement comes largely from him.
And I think that’s fine. Gregg is very popular in NH. So he lobbied a friend to run in his shoes. Who cares. And if I may recall, Gregg was one of the few Republicans who actually voted against Medicare Part D. Ayotte will be fine.
Check this out on Rand Paul
Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 4:25PM EST (link)Not super informative, but somewhat revealing.
He seems to be putting some distance between himself and senior on some issues. I didn’t care for his answer on the war in Iraq and think it needs some explanation.
I would say the jury is still out- for now.
“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson
Revealing indeed.
Third Street (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 4:57PM EST (link)Supports drug legalization and mostly opposes the WOT, opposing the Iraq War outright and tap-dancing around the issue of Afghanistan with insistence of a declaration of war he knows is never going to come. He’s Ron, Jr.
I support wresting control of the GOP from the country-club establishment. The problem with doing that is that we have to take great care that the people we replace them with don’t turn out to be complete lunatics.
(I reiterate: What’s wrong with Trey Grayson?)
“Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.” –Wilkins Micawber, “David Copperfield”
I don't know Trey Grayson- perhaps Erick does
Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 5:47PM EST (link)He looks like a good candidate and has a decent record as Kentucky SoSm But I don’t know the “rub” (other then he went to Harvard
“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson
I'd Persoanlly Support Grayson Over Rand in a Heartbeat
IJB Monday, December 14th at 6:12PM EST (link)But I’m with DeVore, and IIRC there is someone in NH running against Ayotte, and I’d give that person a serious, serious look.
Another Knock is he's McConnels hand picked man...
AceInTX (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 7:03PM EST (link)There wouldn’t even be a primary in KY if McConnel hadn’t used the KY Republican Machine to push Bunning out of running as an incumbent…Bunning has always been a conservative stalwart…his numbers tanked last year after the Dem Tide. I doubt he’d show as bad now against the Dem if he decided to stay but now that he’s put and everyone has jumped in because McConnell forced him out…it’d be hard for him to get back in!
I'm a Rino
momo Monday, December 14th at 4:27PM EST (link)but I am totally voting for Chuck Devore and I will give him some money too!!! We need to support Conservatives-middle of the road doesn’t cut it anymore.
At this point..>Devore needs to stop running agains Fiorina and start running against the RNSC
AceInTX (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 4:40PM EST (link)Take the gloves off…call for the NRSC to help him raise funds as well…do it publicly and do it loudly….and do it without rest…face their duplicity and lies head on…the base is mad as hell…and they are getting madder…this would propel Devore in front of Fiorina faster than any other strategy because the “teach the establishment a lesson” message is what is driving the base tight now…
This is beyond belief!
SLAM DUNK NRSC
fpete13527 (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 5:28PM EST (link)Time to major slam dunk the NRSC. They are not listening and they are not listening that they are not listening.
For the heck of it I just logged on to the NRSC to see what is the first main thing poppoing out in BOLD. Another person they supposedly now aren’t trying to fund.
I will a give you a hint who it is that pops out in BIG BOLD CAPTION WHEN YOU LOG IN.
HINT: HE IS FROM FLORIDA AND IS VERY TANNED AND IS NOT MARCO RUBIO AND HAS INITIALS CC.
Log In and see for yourself
http://www.nrsc.org/
SLAM DUNK THE NRSC… AND THEN SLAM DUNK THEM MORE
That is amazing!
nelsa (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 5:49PM EST (link)Just as I suggested above. They are still at it. They support Crist 100% and say that all Rubio has to do is ask!
I still cant believe that THAT link points there.
Countdown 'till it is removed?
nelsa (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 5:53PM EST (link)5-4-3-2-1……
I just checked (Tuesday - 3:30) it is still there...
rcov092 (Diary) Tuesday, December 15th at 4:11PM EST (link)John Cornyn is evidently a liar. I gave him money for his personal campaign. I am going to write him a letter asking him for it back.
“Not One Red Dime for the NRSC or NRCC till they stop trying to elect liberals”
Join the RedState Strike Force
It rotates, evidently. Mark Kirk is up now.
redneck_hippie (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 5:54PM EST (link)I just heard his first radio ad today for 2010. He has a long row to hoe because Illinois shows very little sign of repentence from their big government ways.
Whenever I click that link
nelsa (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 6:56PM EST (link)it comes up with Crist’s picture with a twitter ad. Did HE pay for that or did the NRSC? That would solve the question of whether or not they are spending money to support Crist.
Is your IP in Florida? Mine is in IL. nt
redneck_hippie (Diary) Tuesday, December 15th at 1:14PM EST (link)Mine is in Florida, just saw the Crist ad, probably set to reflect location of IP on requesting page.
rcov092 (Diary) Tuesday, December 15th at 4:13PM EST (link)n/t
“Not One Red Dime for the NRSC or NRCC till they stop trying to elect liberals”
Join the RedState Strike Force
Setting aside the comparative advantages of the various candidates,
Flagstaff (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 5:45PM EST (link)this points up the problems/situations that arise when a group of folks who are often conservative are asked to decide between others like themselves and Conservatives.
It also illustrates why Conservatives should make their donations directly to primary candidates–the folks with conservative leanings are donating theirs to the NRSC and we know whare that will go. The NRSC isn’t always wrong. RedState honchos aren’t always right. But the NRSC can do a lot more damage when it’s wrong than RedState can.
The duplicity of the NRSC is another thing, and another reason to withhold their money. In fact, the idea that they can help a candidate fund-raise without effectively endorsing her (while NOT fund-raising for her opponents) is an assertion worthy of a Steny Hoyer or Barack Obama. It is so unbelievable that to say it with a straight face indicates a level of confidence (that the statement will never be questioned seriously) that might have been held by Boss Tweed.
If there is a reason for the NRSC to exist, it is to help lesser-known candidates who need help in fund-raising. It should not require the candidate to respond in kind until after he or she is elected.
“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964
Erick...You mention Grayson...What about Bunning?
AceInTX (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 6:00PM EST (link)I mentioned these questions above…but I’ll ask you directly…do you know the answer to any of the following…and/or do you know anyone who does and can answer it?
McConnell forced Bunning out because he was polling bad after the McCain fiasco…(yet another example of establishment Tom Foolery)…
1) How does Bunning look against a likely Dem opponent should he change his mind and run for reelection?
2) How would Republicans in KY react if he decides to stay and Run for reelection?
3) Wouldn’t that be a better stick in the eye to McConnell and the establishment than Paul or on of the other Republicans running in the primaries?
4) Wouldn’t Bunning have an advantage over Grayson if he ran as an incumbent running for his own seat?
5) Is anyone in the Republican Party, the conservative movement or the tea party movement doing anything to check this out and or encourage him to stay?
Bunning is a dead duck.
Third Street (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 9:10PM EST (link)The reason Bunning was polling badly, and drew both Grayson and Paul as primary challengers well before deciding to drop out, is because Bunning would have been an almost certain loser. He’s almost 80 years old and is unpopular in the state.
In ’04, his Democrat opponent — who is running again, and is facing a primary against another candidate even stronger than he is — bucked the Bush tide and came within a point of toppling Bunning.
Bunning’s approval rating, last I checked, was 35%.
He knew enough to get out.
“Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.” –Wilkins Micawber, “David Copperfield”
OK...that answers that question. I thought it might have changed with the tide going against Dems
AceInTX (Diary) Tuesday, December 15th at 9:39AM EST (link)I don’t know anything beyond the fact that McConnel played some games with the KYGOP to force him out and he’s backing Grayson.
Jane Norton should be on this list.
NightTwister (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 6:06PM EST (link)The NRSC is being a little more covert about their involvement in her campaign, but they are involved just the same. Cornyn and McCain are also individually very involved.
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill
Norton is a conservative
letswinsomeelections Sunday, December 20th at 7:19AM EST (link)Difference is Norton is a conservative. Anyone looking at her issues on her website can see it.
A step too far
Illinicon (Diary) Monday, December 14th at 8:36PM EST (link)While I am no fan of the NRSC, I think its it also illlogical to be against a candidate on the sole basis that the NRSC endorsed them. Ayotte is a strong conservative who is leading in the general election polls in a blue state with no viable primary challanger. In Kentucky, I really don’t know that much about Grayson but his issue stances on his campaign website are all inline with mainstream conservatism and I didnt see any redflags while googling his record as KY SOS, where as Rand Paul is his father’s son and he is too dangerous to be in the US senate that democrats will likely have control of in 2011 and 12.
My Potus shortlist
declared candidates:
1. Tim Pawlenty
2. Herman Cain
3. Gary Johnson
4. Rick Santorum
among declared and rumored candidates:
1. Rick Perry
2. Tim Pawlenty
3. Rudy Giuilani
4. Herman Cain
Endorsement of a Ronulan on Redstate?!
Gengisdon (Diary) Tuesday, December 15th at 3:31PM EST (link)Something I never thought to see happen.
While I must admit I like the idea of Republican infighting in principle, as an actual resident of Kentucky I would really prefer you guys nominate a legitimate, sound, sane candidate. You will probably win this seat in 2010 – the “A” list Dems were drawn to the race by a declining Bunning, but neither AG Conway or Lt. Gov Mongiardo are likely to win in November in the current environment. Rand Paul as your candidate improves the Democratic odds slightly, but probably not enough to turn the tide.
Trust me, I don’t like Greyson. He’s not liberal, or RINO, or any of those things. This is not an endorsement. But Rand and his merry band are, well, nuts. I’m not sure if this is just an attempt to put a stick in the eye of McConnell, which is something else I like in principle, but Rand is a lightweight with some curious ideas about government.
If it has gotten so bad that the base simply must fight the establishment no matter what the cost, then you guys are really starting to remind me of my own party. The Democrats have been missing their nose for a long time with a very spited face.
Somewhere, Streiff is smacking his hand against his face….
But the Hebrew word, the word timshel—‘Thou mayest’— that gives a choice. It might be the most important word in the world. That says the way is open. That throws it right back on a man. For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.’
Look at Bill Johnson
Crimefyter Wednesday, December 16th at 11:09AM EST (link)Take a look at Bill Johnson. www.kentuckybill.com
He’s gaining support and his message is resonating with many in the state of KY.
Well in speaking with John Cornyn
Michael Dugas (Diary) Tuesday, December 15th at 7:39PM EST (link)All I get is double speak. When I call him on the Healthcare fight no matter what I ask or say all he will say is ” We are trying to stop it so we can start over.” That has been the word for word response to three different posts. When I bring up Fiorina he won’t respond
and he SWEARS that Chuck DeVore’s never asked for a meeting.
Being that I have experience with John Cornyn I feel comfortable
with my opinion that he is a liar.
I don’t doubt for a minute that for people at the NRSC, like Cornyn, believe that the passing of Obama Care is a sure fire path to the majority with not one care as to the damage it will do to our country or his own constituents.
Intro to Federalist Papers; section 5;
paragraph 4.
“…dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the zeal for a firm and efficient government.”
Remember: A Citizen on the dole is a Liberal Vote at the Polls.
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