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	<title>Comments on: The Brad Ellsworth Abortion Money-Laundering Scheme</title>
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		<title>By: john_barry</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/11/04/the-brad-ellsworth-abortion-money-laundering-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-40493</link>
		<dc:creator>john_barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for exposing the reality of the  Brad Ellsworth  Abortion Money -laundering Scheme. The Herods in  the Democratic Party want  the taxpayer to finance the  slaughter of the innocents. They are crying to Heaven for vengeance.  Obama, Pelosi, Biden are no different from Hitler. Just substitute the unborn for the Jews. This is history repeating itself. Abortion is the modern holocaust.  The abortion clinics are the new concentration camps. For the  Nazis substitute the Democrats. Finally it is well to remember that infanticide was one of the reasons for the decline of the Roman Empire.

No to death panels. No to taxpayer funded abortion. No to national bankruptcy. No to Socialism.  Thank God for the GOP. This Bill must bite the dust. Lobby Lobby Lobby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for exposing the reality of the  Brad Ellsworth  Abortion Money -laundering Scheme. The Herods in  the Democratic Party want  the taxpayer to finance the  slaughter of the innocents. They are crying to Heaven for vengeance.  Obama, Pelosi, Biden are no different from Hitler. Just substitute the unborn for the Jews. This is history repeating itself. Abortion is the modern holocaust.  The abortion clinics are the new concentration camps. For the  Nazis substitute the Democrats. Finally it is well to remember that infanticide was one of the reasons for the decline of the Roman Empire.</p>
<p>No to death panels. No to taxpayer funded abortion. No to national bankruptcy. No to Socialism.  Thank God for the GOP. This Bill must bite the dust. Lobby Lobby Lobby.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/11/04/the-brad-ellsworth-abortion-money-laundering-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-40467</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/11/04/the-brad-ellsworth-abortion-money-laundering-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-40466</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on McLaughlin Group and in columns.</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Mullins</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/11/04/the-brad-ellsworth-abortion-money-laundering-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-40439</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Mullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so his endorsement is most likely not going to revoked.</description>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/11/04/the-brad-ellsworth-abortion-money-laundering-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-40434</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pro-life Pat to disown him this week.</description>
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		<title>By: hannahcb</title>
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		<dc:creator>hannahcb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is about the government taking our freedom.  period.  Americans may want to reform health care - and there have been other private sector solutions presented and ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is about the government taking our freedom.  period.  Americans may want to reform health care &#8211; and there have been other private sector solutions presented and ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: mikek369</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikek369</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t put it passed the liberals and other progressives in congress to ensure that unborn babies are murdered at tax payer expense in America.  I resent it and condemn each and everyone of them complicit in this, straight to hell.

I bind it with every bit of my christian spirit.

I imagine these will find it preferable to have a millstone tied about their respective necks and tossed into the sea rather than  to come face to face with my living God.  

How about this redstate....please investigate the claims that the &#039;panels and coordinator for guiding our nations doctors in their pursuit of their business is already in place as authorized by the Stimulus bill, that no one read.

Bioethicist Ezekiel Emanuel fingerprints will be felt by everyone forced into the public option including us baby boomers living on our social security....yeah right, our social security...if it truly is/was, why did they piss it away?

http://www.fortwaynevoiceoftruth.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t put it passed the liberals and other progressives in congress to ensure that unborn babies are murdered at tax payer expense in America.  I resent it and condemn each and everyone of them complicit in this, straight to hell.</p>
<p>I bind it with every bit of my christian spirit.</p>
<p>I imagine these will find it preferable to have a millstone tied about their respective necks and tossed into the sea rather than  to come face to face with my living God.  </p>
<p>How about this redstate&#8230;.please investigate the claims that the &#8216;panels and coordinator for guiding our nations doctors in their pursuit of their business is already in place as authorized by the Stimulus bill, that no one read.</p>
<p>Bioethicist Ezekiel Emanuel fingerprints will be felt by everyone forced into the public option including us baby boomers living on our social security&#8230;.yeah right, our social security&#8230;if it truly is/was, why did they piss it away?</p>
<p>http://www.fortwaynevoiceoftruth.blogspot.com</p>
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		<title>By: bk</title>
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		<dc:creator>bk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dan Perrin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Perrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is clearly stated by the desperation of Ellsworth&#039;s comments about going into battle.

What he does not say is that his side is restless and full of angst because voting for ObamaCare is a suicide misssion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is clearly stated by the desperation of Ellsworth&#8217;s comments about going into battle.</p>
<p>What he does not say is that his side is restless and full of angst because voting for ObamaCare is a suicide misssion</p>
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		<title>By: mbecker908</title>
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		<dc:creator>mbecker908</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>abortion or immigration.  If there was a line in the bill that says &quot;under no circumstance will any abortion be paid for in any way whatsoever and you&#039;ve got to prove US citizenship to be eligible for ANY benefit from this bill...&quot; I&#039;d still oppose it.

Anything that passes this Congress will be tweeked in the future to include both abortion and illegals.  It will just be an amendment to a &quot;must pass&quot; bill that can&#039;t be filibustered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>abortion or immigration.  If there was a line in the bill that says &#8220;under no circumstance will any abortion be paid for in any way whatsoever and you&#8217;ve got to prove US citizenship to be eligible for ANY benefit from this bill&#8230;&#8221; I&#8217;d still oppose it.</p>
<p>Anything that passes this Congress will be tweeked in the future to include both abortion and illegals.  It will just be an amendment to a &#8220;must pass&#8221; bill that can&#8217;t be filibustered.</p>
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		<title>By: Steph C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steph C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this bill passes can we then arrest everyone who votes for it? Last I heard money-laundering is illegal. ;-)

Seriously, I never expected abortion not to be covered in any form of Democratic bill. So far, my expectations have been met. They do think we&#039;re clueless and stupid and intend to keep us that way. Unfortunately for them, the internet is not cooperating with them. 

Everything they do is about changing the word without changing the intent. I remember during one of Obama&#039;s campaign interviews he said, &quot;Words mean something.&quot; 

We now have a pocket dictionary&#039;s worth of words that no longer mean what they used to mean, as the something they mean is whatever the Democrats want them to mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this bill passes can we then arrest everyone who votes for it? Last I heard money-laundering is illegal. <img src='http://www.redstate.com/erick/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously, I never expected abortion not to be covered in any form of Democratic bill. So far, my expectations have been met. They do think we&#8217;re clueless and stupid and intend to keep us that way. Unfortunately for them, the internet is not cooperating with them. </p>
<p>Everything they do is about changing the word without changing the intent. I remember during one of Obama&#8217;s campaign interviews he said, &#8220;Words mean something.&#8221; </p>
<p>We now have a pocket dictionary&#8217;s worth of words that no longer mean what they used to mean, as the something they mean is whatever the Democrats want them to mean.</p>
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		<title>By: Menlo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Menlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The court has consistently approved the exclusion of abortion funding as seen with the Hyde Amendment. You may recall Harry Blackmun&#039;s &quot;let them eat cake&quot; dissent.

I would not be surprised though if the lower-level courts, stacked with Obama nominees, defy that precedent. The Supreme Court is now only a figurehead.

The Democrats&#039; &quot;justification&quot; is that the only way to remove funding would be to prohibit its coverage from any insurance anyone can get. If true, then they would only be acknowledging their complete, rather than partial, takeover of health care. 

I don&#039;t know about illegals but it will not matter much since they plan to legalize them before the bill takes full effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The court has consistently approved the exclusion of abortion funding as seen with the Hyde Amendment. You may recall Harry Blackmun&#8217;s &#8220;let them eat cake&#8221; dissent.</p>
<p>I would not be surprised though if the lower-level courts, stacked with Obama nominees, defy that precedent. The Supreme Court is now only a figurehead.</p>
<p>The Democrats&#8217; &#8220;justification&#8221; is that the only way to remove funding would be to prohibit its coverage from any insurance anyone can get. If true, then they would only be acknowledging their complete, rather than partial, takeover of health care. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about illegals but it will not matter much since they plan to legalize them before the bill takes full effect.</p>
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		<title>By: 6eorge Jetson</title>
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		<dc:creator>6eorge Jetson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There, I fixed it.

Ellsworth&#039;s press secretary should know better than to proof read by spell checker only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There, I fixed it.</p>
<p>Ellsworth&#8217;s press secretary should know better than to proof read by spell checker only.</p>
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		<title>By: douglasjohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>douglasjohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WASHINGTON (November 4, 2009, 7 PM EST)  The House Democratic leadership today announced that it will propose a &quot;Rule&quot; on the health care bill, H.R. 3962, that will insert language proposed by Rep. Brad Ellsworth (D-In.), and exclude a House vote on an amendment proposed by Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mi.).   The House is expected to vote on the &quot;rule&quot; late Friday or early Saturday.  The National Right to Life Committee (NRLC), the federation of right-to-life organizations in all 50 states, supports the Stupak Amendment and opposes the pro-abortion Ellsworth-Waxman-Pelosi language.  NRLC issued the following statement, which may be attributed to NRLC Legislative Director Douglas Johnson.
 
&quot;Any House member who votes for the Pelosi rule is voting to establish a federal government insurance plan, the public option, that the bill explicitly authorizes to pay for all elective abortions.  When a federal agency pays for abortions, that is federal funding of abortion in reality, whatever contrived labels Speaker Pelosi or her acolytes slap over it.  The Ellsworth language is a political fig leaf made out of cellophane -- it directs the federal Secretary of Health to hire a contractor to deliver to abortion providers the payments for elective abortions, payments that are explicitly authorized by the bill [on page 110].  This is a money-laundering scheme -- a federally funded &#039;bag man&#039; will deliver government funds to abortionists.  This is federal funding of elective abortion.&quot;
 
NRLC&#039;s objections to the abortion-related provisions of H.R. 3962 are explained in detail in a letter sent to House members on November 2, posted here (or in PDF format, here).
 
Additional documentation is posted at http://www.nrlc.org/ahc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WASHINGTON (November 4, 2009, 7 PM EST)  The House Democratic leadership today announced that it will propose a &#8220;Rule&#8221; on the health care bill, H.R. 3962, that will insert language proposed by Rep. Brad Ellsworth (D-In.), and exclude a House vote on an amendment proposed by Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mi.).   The House is expected to vote on the &#8220;rule&#8221; late Friday or early Saturday.  The National Right to Life Committee (NRLC), the federation of right-to-life organizations in all 50 states, supports the Stupak Amendment and opposes the pro-abortion Ellsworth-Waxman-Pelosi language.  NRLC issued the following statement, which may be attributed to NRLC Legislative Director Douglas Johnson.</p>
<p>&#8220;Any House member who votes for the Pelosi rule is voting to establish a federal government insurance plan, the public option, that the bill explicitly authorizes to pay for all elective abortions.  When a federal agency pays for abortions, that is federal funding of abortion in reality, whatever contrived labels Speaker Pelosi or her acolytes slap over it.  The Ellsworth language is a political fig leaf made out of cellophane &#8212; it directs the federal Secretary of Health to hire a contractor to deliver to abortion providers the payments for elective abortions, payments that are explicitly authorized by the bill [on page 110].  This is a money-laundering scheme &#8212; a federally funded &#8216;bag man&#8217; will deliver government funds to abortionists.  This is federal funding of elective abortion.&#8221;</p>
<p>NRLC&#8217;s objections to the abortion-related provisions of H.R. 3962 are explained in detail in a letter sent to House members on November 2, posted here (or in PDF format, here).</p>
<p>Additional documentation is posted at http://www.nrlc.org/ahc</p>
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		<title>By: The_Gadfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Gadfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>editing together the disparate House bills.

[insert evil smirking grin seething sarcasm from its photons here]</description>
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		<title>By: The_Gadfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Gadfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/09/18/judge-andrew-napolitano-joe-wilson-right-obama/

The key element is the creation of a government obligation to a person. That element is clearly evident in the bill. Since under legal logic, the person has a protected right to abortion, and the government is now entangling itself in providing health care, the government therefore has an obligation to ensure people can engage in the protected civil right.

Please note that I whole-heartedly agree with you that on a common sense level this is absurd. I&#039;m just saying that given the verbal jujitsu the court has engaged in to make words mean the opposite of their ordinary meaning when it comes to abortion, we need to anticipate it will do the same when (not if) a case calling for the government to pay for abortions or at least abortion coverage as part of the health care package comes before it.</description>
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<p>The key element is the creation of a government obligation to a person. That element is clearly evident in the bill. Since under legal logic, the person has a protected right to abortion, and the government is now entangling itself in providing health care, the government therefore has an obligation to ensure people can engage in the protected civil right.</p>
<p>Please note that I whole-heartedly agree with you that on a common sense level this is absurd. I&#8217;m just saying that given the verbal jujitsu the court has engaged in to make words mean the opposite of their ordinary meaning when it comes to abortion, we need to anticipate it will do the same when (not if) a case calling for the government to pay for abortions or at least abortion coverage as part of the health care package comes before it.</p>
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		<title>By: SoFiMil</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoFiMil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Flagstaff</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/11/04/the-brad-ellsworth-abortion-money-laundering-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-40342</link>
		<dc:creator>Flagstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never count on the Supreme Court to do the non-absurd thing.  Or even the right thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never count on the Supreme Court to do the non-absurd thing.  Or even the right thing.</p>
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		<title>By: DerKrieger</title>
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		<dc:creator>DerKrieger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>..decision on the part of SCOTUS. Just because something is a right in no way obligates someone to pay for that right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..decision on the part of SCOTUS. Just because something is a right in no way obligates someone to pay for that right.</p>
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		<title>By: DerKrieger</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/11/04/the-brad-ellsworth-abortion-money-laundering-scheme/comment-page-1/#comment-40339</link>
		<dc:creator>DerKrieger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There isn&#039;t a single part of this disaster that can be supported. We can&#039;t allow ourselves to be distracted by pieces and parts, i.e. abortion, immigrant coverage, the &#039;public option&#039;, death panels, etc. We shouldn&#039;t support anything other than free market solutions that REDUCE government involvement in health care. 

I was watching O&#039;Reilly this evening and he had George Stephanopolous on who said (paraphrase), &quot;Americans want the government to do something...&quot;. 
This is the unshakable misconception in the brains of our would be masters. Most Americans in fact DON&#039;tT want the government to do &quot;something&quot; but would prefer they do nothing at all except get out of our lives and out of our way.
Georgy boy unwittingly expressed the beltway mentality that they believe we need their help. How the Hell do we get it through their thick skulls that they are dead wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There isn&#8217;t a single part of this disaster that can be supported. We can&#8217;t allow ourselves to be distracted by pieces and parts, i.e. abortion, immigrant coverage, the &#8216;public option&#8217;, death panels, etc. We shouldn&#8217;t support anything other than free market solutions that REDUCE government involvement in health care. </p>
<p>I was watching O&#8217;Reilly this evening and he had George Stephanopolous on who said (paraphrase), &#8220;Americans want the government to do something&#8230;&#8221;.<br />
This is the unshakable misconception in the brains of our would be masters. Most Americans in fact DON&#8217;tT want the government to do &#8220;something&#8221; but would prefer they do nothing at all except get out of our lives and out of our way.<br />
Georgy boy unwittingly expressed the beltway mentality that they believe we need their help. How the Hell do we get it through their thick skulls that they are dead wrong?</p>
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