Comments on: National Conservative Campaign Fund Rallies Prominent Conservatives to Hoffman

By: teamhucknewyork

teamhucknewyork — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 02:35:37 +0000

Janis,

I stand by that comment 100%. I am on the ground here in NY and have personally spoken to a number of people involved in the endorsement issue and I can assure you that there is much more to this story and to the Governor’s recent endorsement track record for me to repeat my argument that it seems clear many, author included, have not done their homework.

Furthermore, your analysis of Huckabee’s record is hopelessly flawed and neglects the Democratic makeup of the state legislature, a Supreme Court ruling forcing him to dramatically increase educational spending and an immigration issue over which the states have no control. How can a Governor be liberal on illegal immigration when he has no power to deport illegals anyway? Poor argument, poor analysis. I remain fervently supportive of the Governor and hope he runs in 2012/

By: makemyday

makemyday — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:46:38 +0000

As you can see in Tin Ear diary I have filled out the forms to be a Precinct Delegate and am ready to start launcing something! I owe this to my kids and grandkids since I am a child of the sixties and my generation can be blamed for for what has happened to this country.

By: civil_truth

civil_truth — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:05:58 +0000

I’m not one to go off half-cocked, and I don’t think Erick and other responsible Republican conservatives are looking to drive us off the cliff. However, the level of push back being advocated seems to me both reasonable and necessary.

Nobody is advocating forming a third-party, but rather to move the Republican party in a more consistently conservative direction consistent with articulated principles. This is going to mean making waves, and perhaps swamping the boats of those politicians and party officials who have gone D.C. “native”.

By: civil_truth

civil_truth — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:18:00 +0000

Are you going to keep playing poker in the back room or get on the trucks?

By: idealjoe

idealjoe — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:12:11 +0000

In the interest of regaining jobs and moving large manufacturing back to this country which I think would do more to grow this economy than any proposal out there. I think the fair tax may be the just what we need to turn the economy around. And don’t forget the IRS would surely fade away into extinction thereby shrinking the size of government, a great beginning, HUGE!! And isn’t
that what the conservative movement is all about. Lets hear some more suggestions for government programs that need to be deleted.

By: makemyday

makemyday — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:52:18 +0000

Not trolling nor the fearful variety, just a 60 year old who has seen much. I laid out my thoughts not even for being a devils advocate but for the sake of discussion. Let me be very clear on this (where have I heard that before?) I would rather fight alongside you guys than any other group and I am ready if the concensus is to Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead then I would like to push the launch button. As long we all aware that the results may not be to our liking. I am mad enough to actually start launching something

By: penguin2

penguin2 — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:08:50 +0000

But I don’t want to malign the salesmen group. I’m having trouble swallowing anything about Huck because he is coming across as a politician, and to me they rank lower than the other guys. No offense intended to the principled salesmen of any product.

By: DavidS1787

DavidS1787 — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:06:06 +0000

n/t

By: janis

janis — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:57:41 +0000

Conservative, not a social lib. Got up way too early today.

By: Tbone

Tbone — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:44:35 +0000

ripped for them in that the one they have doesn’t seem to be working. LOL

By: Streiff

Streiff — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:36:11 +0000

That “huckpac” has not endorsed Hoffman.

and to echo what a couple of others have said, Mr. Huckabee has a lot ot commend him but his record is that of a social conservative who is more than willing to use the power of the state to push his goals. There isn’t anything wrong with that, per se, but it pretty clearly indicates that he is not a conservative, himself, despite his laudable support of some conservative candidates.

By: Anteater

Anteater — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:24:17 +0000

53% of Republicans?

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/10/huckabee_passes.html

By: tankertodd

tankertodd — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:19:19 +0000

I’d give him a +1 but the Fair Tax isn’t achievable unfortunately.

By: aesthete

aesthete — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:16:08 +0000

Or at least not in any sense aside from that a similar system was used in the US at one point. Given that it is simply an alternate form of taxation, both conservatives and liberals have shown varying degrees of support and scorn for the proposal. At any rate, given that the FairTax has an active, if small, grassroots base, and that Huckabee would have been able to do nothing for their cause in the White House, one is more inclined to think that it was a typically cynical move by a politician to get the support and mobilization of a dedicated grassroots group at little cost, political or otherwise, to himself.

By: janis

janis — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:07:34 +0000

are another presumptuous one to tell the editor of RedState hasn’ done his homework. Mike didn’t govern as a conservative, only saying conservative things when he became–in his own eyes, at least— a candidate for POTUS. He was a liberal tax and spender, liberal on illegal alien amnesty, etc. He may be a social lib, but that’s pretty much it.

How much political courage did it take to support Bob McDonnell in Virginia? None.

By: mschmitt

mschmitt — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:48:08 +0000

The only major candidate that I’m aware of (sorry, Bob) to do so…

By: civil_truth

civil_truth — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:42:24 +0000

…unless you’re genuinely the fearful sort by nature.

But when you’re outnumbered and have less money, you can’t play the attrition game – you need to be bold and go on the offensive. That’s the only way to breach the lines and scatter the other side before they can regroup.

Otherwise, as happened after ’94 (or “00), you’re just going to fritter away your advantage while the other side remobilizes and nibbles you to death.

By: tankertodd

tankertodd — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:35:19 +0000

I hope I’m wrong but he strikes me as a social conservative who wouldn’t have qualms broadening government to suit those ends. I think the Tea Party movement is about shrinking government, period.

By: tankertodd

tankertodd — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:29:47 +0000

That’s ok. We need to take the long view. Accommodating milquetoast Republicans to hold seats isn’t sustainable – what did the GOP majority really drive to this decade? Did we fundamentally fix the government? No. Moderating too much simply slows the bankruptcy of our nation. Let’s not prolong the pain to the point of many of our states. Let’s join the battle now because I want to know sooner or later if I have to leave the country. Join the battle now to make the case to the Blue States. We know that the support is there if we focus on core principles. The message hasn’t been tested because we’re too busy as a party softening it. If you even listen to Hollywood types you hear a sense of libertarianism that is heartening for our side if we can package it without being labeled/marginalized as religious nuts.

By: Castor

Castor — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:45:15 +0000

I´m sitting down here in Perú, but I just sent another contribution to Doug Hoffman. He´ll need an extra effort from everyone to open up their purse strings to sink Scozzafava-Pelosi and Owens on tuesday.
Come on Conservatives. Send it in!!!!