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		<title>By: soljerblue</title>
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		<dc:creator>soljerblue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that with the Republican Party so much resembling Democrat-lite, conservatives would do better controlling Congress and letting the Democrats have the White House.  We could raise enough hell to change things considerably, it seems to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that with the Republican Party so much resembling Democrat-lite, conservatives would do better controlling Congress and letting the Democrats have the White House.  We could raise enough hell to change things considerably, it seems to me.</p>
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		<title>By: daezy</title>
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		<dc:creator>daezy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They can dish it out, but they sure can&#039;t take it.</description>
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		<title>By: daezy</title>
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		<dc:creator>daezy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They can dish it out, but they sure can&#039;t take it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They can dish it out, but they sure can&#8217;t take it.</p>
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		<title>By: ColdWarrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>ColdWarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good comments here.  

The only &quot;Conservative Base&quot; that really matters to the incumbents is the Conservative Base within the Party itself, in the precinct committeemen ranks.  Because THAT &quot;Conservative Base,&quot; if it exists, can elect conservatives to the leadership positions at the local, county, state and national levels.  And vote to endorse the conservative candidates in the primary elections.  See my comments above.

Our problem, as conservatives, as I see it, is too many of us &quot;took our ball and went home&quot; or never got into the ball game of party politics to begin with.  If you want to change the Republican Party, the real way to do it is from the &quot;inside&quot; of the Party as a functioning member of it, a member who can vote for the leadership and vote to endorse primary candidates.  Only precinct committeemen (might have a different name in your state) get to do that.
Here&#039;s an overview, for example, in Arizona, where, in 2008, TWO-THIRDS of the PC slots were VACANT and the one third that were filled were split about 50-50 between McCain-moderates and conservatives.  Can you  say &quot;ineffectual?&quot;

http://www.maricopagop.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=15&amp;Itemid=44  (Please read all three pages.)

Thank you.
ColdWarriorr
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good comments here.  </p>
<p>The only &#8220;Conservative Base&#8221; that really matters to the incumbents is the Conservative Base within the Party itself, in the precinct committeemen ranks.  Because THAT &#8220;Conservative Base,&#8221; if it exists, can elect conservatives to the leadership positions at the local, county, state and national levels.  And vote to endorse the conservative candidates in the primary elections.  See my comments above.</p>
<p>Our problem, as conservatives, as I see it, is too many of us &#8220;took our ball and went home&#8221; or never got into the ball game of party politics to begin with.  If you want to change the Republican Party, the real way to do it is from the &#8220;inside&#8221; of the Party as a functioning member of it, a member who can vote for the leadership and vote to endorse primary candidates.  Only precinct committeemen (might have a different name in your state) get to do that.<br />
Here&#8217;s an overview, for example, in Arizona, where, in 2008, TWO-THIRDS of the PC slots were VACANT and the one third that were filled were split about 50-50 between McCain-moderates and conservatives.  Can you  say &#8220;ineffectual?&#8221;</p>
<p>http://www.maricopagop.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=15&amp;Itemid=44  (Please read all three pages.)</p>
<p>Thank you.<br />
ColdWarriorr<br />
www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com</p>
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		<title>By: fayers</title>
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		<dc:creator>fayers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can not survive with the current leadership. We need to get back to the conservative way of life if we are to survive. These far out radical trick play&#039;s are not going to get the job done. BACK TO BASIC&#039;S.
Fred,
Nashville,N.C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can not survive with the current leadership. We need to get back to the conservative way of life if we are to survive. These far out radical trick play&#8217;s are not going to get the job done. BACK TO BASIC&#8217;S.<br />
Fred,<br />
Nashville,N.C.</p>
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		<title>By: ct236</title>
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		<dc:creator>ct236</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a column about a week ago. FYI.</description>
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		<title>By: ucm4u</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done.  Keep it up and we Conservatives will be right there all the way.  It&#039;s about time we call it like it is.  Get the &quot;moderates&quot; out of there.  They stink and have sold out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done.  Keep it up and we Conservatives will be right there all the way.  It&#8217;s about time we call it like it is.  Get the &#8220;moderates&#8221; out of there.  They stink and have sold out.</p>
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		<title>By: Hooah_Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hooah_Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need to actively work inside the Republican party.  There is all kinds of information elsewhere on this site about how to do that.</description>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have to re-earn anything.  They need to know that we&#039;re coming for them and we will not stop until the last squish goes home to sell cars again.  We&#039;ve given them ample opportunity to get the message, but they refuse to think that we&#039;re serious.

If you want to change this, then don&#039;t bother with the earfuls to the ones who are the squishy leaders, become a part of the new wave that will wash them away by activism, not criticism alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have to re-earn anything.  They need to know that we&#8217;re coming for them and we will not stop until the last squish goes home to sell cars again.  We&#8217;ve given them ample opportunity to get the message, but they refuse to think that we&#8217;re serious.</p>
<p>If you want to change this, then don&#8217;t bother with the earfuls to the ones who are the squishy leaders, become a part of the new wave that will wash them away by activism, not criticism alone.</p>
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		<title>By: wgsampson</title>
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		<dc:creator>wgsampson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just meant that the Republican party has to re-earn the right to call us the base.  They way the &quot;leaders&quot; are acting (based on who they are supporting), people should be talking about the Republican&#039;s moderate base - not any conservative base.  After all, who do they want to get to come out and vote for Scozzafava - moderates - so that must be their base.  I agree, that we just want to revitalize the Republican Party by getting it back to its conservative principles, that is why we are supporting Hoffman - not a Republican.  That is why we support other local candidates that are conservatives.  That is why we give Sessions, Cornyn, McConnell, Steele, et al.  an earful every chance we get.  And that is why we applaud Republicans willing to break with their party to do what is right.  We hope that party leaders will learn, so that we can stand up and say proudly that we are part of the base - again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just meant that the Republican party has to re-earn the right to call us the base.  They way the &#8220;leaders&#8221; are acting (based on who they are supporting), people should be talking about the Republican&#8217;s moderate base &#8211; not any conservative base.  After all, who do they want to get to come out and vote for Scozzafava &#8211; moderates &#8211; so that must be their base.  I agree, that we just want to revitalize the Republican Party by getting it back to its conservative principles, that is why we are supporting Hoffman &#8211; not a Republican.  That is why we support other local candidates that are conservatives.  That is why we give Sessions, Cornyn, McConnell, Steele, et al.  an earful every chance we get.  And that is why we applaud Republicans willing to break with their party to do what is right.  We hope that party leaders will learn, so that we can stand up and say proudly that we are part of the base &#8211; again.</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve had the last year to stop the whining and get down to brass tacks.  We&#039;ve looked at the alternatives and there are none.  Either we take back the party and implement the policies that we say we believe in, or all of us are lost.

Standing on your wounded feelings won&#039;t help any of us, and it certainly won&#039;t help you.  Move yourself, man, and help us get the job done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve had the last year to stop the whining and get down to brass tacks.  We&#8217;ve looked at the alternatives and there are none.  Either we take back the party and implement the policies that we say we believe in, or all of us are lost.</p>
<p>Standing on your wounded feelings won&#8217;t help any of us, and it certainly won&#8217;t help you.  Move yourself, man, and help us get the job done.</p>
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		<title>By: peg_c</title>
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		<dc:creator>peg_c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We NY conservatives are following this VERY closely and the GOP better be listening and watching.

Agree on the losers you list, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We NY conservatives are following this VERY closely and the GOP better be listening and watching.</p>
<p>Agree on the losers you list, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Hooah_Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hooah_Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, the Republican party is our only means by which to implement conservatism, so get to work making the party conservative, instead of complaining about it.</description>
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		<title>By: wgsampson</title>
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		<dc:creator>wgsampson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know what the conservative base used to be, and I proudly considerred myself a part of it.  However, having been taken for granted, and ignored for almost two decades, I became an independent conservative.  And, the more I read from individuals here and elsewhere, the more I realize I am not alone.  So, how can I be a part of the Republican&#039;s &quot;Conservative Base&quot; if I am not a Republican?  I will no longer support the lesser of two evils -  to do so would still be to support evil.  They have to re-earn my support - they have to start walkin&#039;-the-walk.  Talk won&#039;t cut it anymore.  Armey, Bachmann, Pence, Palin, Tiahrt - they acted - against the party, but for America.  I will support them - anyplace - anytime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what the conservative base used to be, and I proudly considerred myself a part of it.  However, having been taken for granted, and ignored for almost two decades, I became an independent conservative.  And, the more I read from individuals here and elsewhere, the more I realize I am not alone.  So, how can I be a part of the Republican&#8217;s &#8220;Conservative Base&#8221; if I am not a Republican?  I will no longer support the lesser of two evils &#8211;  to do so would still be to support evil.  They have to re-earn my support &#8211; they have to start walkin&#8217;-the-walk.  Talk won&#8217;t cut it anymore.  Armey, Bachmann, Pence, Palin, Tiahrt &#8211; they acted &#8211; against the party, but for America.  I will support them &#8211; anyplace &#8211; anytime.</p>
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		<title>By: penguin2</title>
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		<dc:creator>penguin2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: $peciallist</title>
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		<dc:creator>$peciallist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Xasteius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xasteius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Richard Mullins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Mullins</dc:creator>
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		<description>and with that Hoffman is part of it.</description>
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		<title>By: harlan</title>
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		<dc:creator>harlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...if Scozzafava was at least a &quot;principled&quot; liberal.  Then the RINO RNC might have some small measure of cover.

But alas, she is not.  She is both weak-willed and corrupt.

In supporting her, the RNC (both local and national) illustrates that it is as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;if Scozzafava was at least a &#8220;principled&#8221; liberal.  Then the RINO RNC might have some small measure of cover.</p>
<p>But alas, she is not.  She is both weak-willed and corrupt.</p>
<p>In supporting her, the RNC (both local and national) illustrates that it is as well.</p>
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		<title>By: TNJim</title>
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		<dc:creator>TNJim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love of country and family is what drives us to do what we can, be it donations of cash or time to conservative candidates. If those who showed such passion at the tea parties (still ongoing) and townhalls keep it up and turn that energy into joining their local GOP we can win in 2010 and beyond. The Hoffman surge and McDonnell is proof of that. I&#039;m not counting Christie in NJ out either, for the same reason.

Janis, if you want to see the nastiness of the left on display and see the vaidation of your &quot;constant rage&quot; comment, get a twitter account and see how they troll the &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23tcot&quot;&gt;#TCOT&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23iamthemob&quot;&gt;#IamtheMob&lt;/a&gt;, and other conservative threads.

On second thought, maybe you don&#039;t want to see that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love of country and family is what drives us to do what we can, be it donations of cash or time to conservative candidates. If those who showed such passion at the tea parties (still ongoing) and townhalls keep it up and turn that energy into joining their local GOP we can win in 2010 and beyond. The Hoffman surge and McDonnell is proof of that. I&#8217;m not counting Christie in NJ out either, for the same reason.</p>
<p>Janis, if you want to see the nastiness of the left on display and see the vaidation of your &#8220;constant rage&#8221; comment, get a twitter account and see how they troll the <a href="http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23tcot">#TCOT</a>, <a href="http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23iamthemob">#IamtheMob</a>, and other conservative threads.</p>
<p>On second thought, maybe you don&#8217;t want to see that&#8230;</p>
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