Comments on: Senate Set to Cast First Vote on Obamacare. GOP Assisting the Democrats

By: martyinaz

martyinaz — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 05:27:19 +0000

Identify the turncoats and vote them OUT! Write to them today. Tell them “Just because you have an (R) behind your name doesn’t mean you’ll get my vote if you are a turncoat”.

By: The_Gadfly

The_Gadfly — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:12:45 +0000

He wants the bag guys to drop a nuke on the capital while they are in session so we can start fresh. He’s very Shakespearean about it: a plague on both their houses.

By: The_Gadfly

The_Gadfly — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:08:21 +0000

The endgame strategy is to get a bill out of the Senate, and one out of the House. I don’t think they really care what’s in either bill, that’s all posturing to try to gauge how strong the bases are. Once in conference committee they rewrite the whole shebang to suit Pelosi, Reid, and The Big 0. Rangel has already said he will certify whatever comes out of committee to use the Byrd processes to avoid filibuster in the Senate, at which point Reid only needs to get 51 Dems to vote for the bill. The House is pretty much a done deal because of how much power is given to Pelosi to drive legislation forward.

So to some extent it doesn’t matter what the issue is, we always want votes against clotures.

In this particular case the relevant points are:

* the Dems are attempting to publicly bribe the AMA into supporting a bad bill
* the Dems are hiding the cost of the healthcare plan by making these expenditures off book and thereby excluding them from the CBO calculations
* the reason they need to do both of the above is that THE premier example of government run healthcare (which they are using to flog taking over the private sector) has been so mismanaged doctors in some states can’t afford to treat patients under its provisions.

By: The_Gadfly

The_Gadfly — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:56:36 +0000

No, he doesn’t. His power comes from the people who call the pols as a result of his posting on RedState. The power he holds beyond that is only enough to usually get through and get an official statement. Effecting the way pols vote is still the work of the grassroots.

By: Steph C

Steph C — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:13:32 +0000

There are other days when I realize do so would be just as selfish as what is happening in Congress now.

The “other” days far outnumber the days when I when I “feel like that.”

Those who are doing the deeds aren’t the only ones who will suffer so we must keep fighting.

By: anotherindyfilmguy

anotherindyfilmguy — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:48:22 +0000

Let them do it.
let them do everything they want.
Let them devalue the dollar to nothing.
Let them break the best economy the world has ever seen in the name of 1960′s/1970′s radicalism.
Let them learn what it is it to be poor when their money means nothing.
Let them know what it is to be defenseless when they can’t pay thier bodyguards because the dollar is gone.
Let them do it and learn what real consequences are outside of their ivory tower/liberland gated communities really mean when they turn the economy into something that will make a third world country look away.
Dare them to do it and walk out. Leave your proxy vote of “no”.
The rest of us will be fine and pull together to get through hard times…

By: AceInTX

AceInTX — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:02:10 +0000

CALL ANYWAY…and Jam the Fax Machine

By: AceInTX

AceInTX — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:57:43 +0000

were so important we just HAD to compromise all our principles in 2008?

The way it works now….we need 50 Republican Senators to filibuster anything because we can’t count on 10 or more to hold the line

By: Marcus_Traianus

Marcus_Traianus — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:59:49 +0000

Paging Mitch, do you have any influence with Republican Senators anymore?

I bet the folks in his office are tired of hearing from me.

By the way, “a guy from Georgia” may have been a nice, folksy, unpretentious description a few years ago. You underestimate the power of your position.

By: bk

bk — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:41:53 +0000

that at least some of them will for it as an amendment to the final health care bill but will filibuster it as a standalone bill.

But we know they don’t have the stones to do that.

By: Ausonius

Ausonius — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:31:59 +0000

who has turned out to be one of the greatest disappointments ever for Ohio conservatives.

The aide registered my protest and thanked me: no comment on Voinovich’s position.

A bad sign, but it could be they were busy. I was on hold for quite a while.

By: ColdWarrior

ColdWarrior — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:23:19 +0000

So I faxed them this:

Please LEAD and vote against cloture on the Senate unconstitutional healthcare bill.

Thank you.

XXXXXX
Republican Party Precinct Committeeman
Tempe, AZ 85283

P.S. Questions? Call me. XXX XXX-XXXX

<<<

I also called their local offices and told them the same thing.

Thank you.
ColdWarrior
www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com

By: Third Street

Third Street — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:08:21 +0000

Just spoke with the Landrieu and Vitter offices. Asked their respective mouthpieces whether the senators planned to vote on cloture for S. 1776.

Landrieu’s office: “She’s looking into it but she’s very supportive of the bill.” No surprise there.

Vitter’s office: “Yes, he is.” As Vitter is usually a reliable conservative vote I found this surprising and distressing. I’m hoping that the girl on the phone was confused.

At any rate, I made my wishes known to both offices and in response received a blithe “okay, I’ll pass that message along.” Right.

By: Erick Erickson

Erick Erickson — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:05:15 +0000

http://tinyurl.com/ykra56j

By: jen2001

jen2001 — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:59:14 +0000

Was told by the office this vote was taken off the schedule for today, and she hadn’t made up her mind on how she is going to vote (DEM). Burr (REP) told me no vote for sure.

By: cowgirl_from_hell

cowgirl_from_hell — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:55:25 +0000

The way the Dems are going about this DISGUSTS me. Is 1776 the clandestine bill that Reid and his minions have been working on, or is this the other (later) one introduced that would take the Medicare costs out of the other bill. The whole thing is so convoluted that I have been having a hard time keeping this one straight…

By: Erick Erickson

Erick Erickson — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:53:10 +0000

It does little good to have a guy from Georgia calling and raising hell with a Senator in Arizona.

So target each GOP Senator so they can pressure their leadership to hold the line.

This will be a failure of GOP leadership if it makes it past cloture with any GOP votes.

By: Marcus_Traianus

Marcus_Traianus — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:47:36 +0000

Do we know which R’s are leaning towards cloture?

If yes, they should be the targets.

By: Erick Erickson

Erick Erickson — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:42:38 +0000

As soon as they have enough GOP votes to get cloture.

By: suzieQ

suzieQ — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:39:23 +0000