Comments on: Hiding Behind Synonyms: Obama Begins Campaign to Throw Gen. McChrystal Under the Bus http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/05/hiding-behind-synonyms-obama-begins-campaign-to-throw-gen-mcchrystal-under-the-bus/ Fri, 17 Feb 2012 01:47:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: mom2oneson http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/05/hiding-behind-synonyms-obama-begins-campaign-to-throw-gen-mcchrystal-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-34924 mom2oneson Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:10:13 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/erick/?p=3858#comment-34924 By: edniceville http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/05/hiding-behind-synonyms-obama-begins-campaign-to-throw-gen-mcchrystal-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-34907 edniceville Wed, 07 Oct 2009 03:22:41 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/erick/?p=3858#comment-34907 will be right here in the used to be "Good Ole USA" Hide your guns, buy lots of ammo while you still can. We are going to need it! will be right here in the used to be “Good Ole USA” Hide your guns, buy lots of ammo while you still can. We are going to need it!

]]> By: edniceville http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/05/hiding-behind-synonyms-obama-begins-campaign-to-throw-gen-mcchrystal-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-34905 edniceville Wed, 07 Oct 2009 03:19:20 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/erick/?p=3858#comment-34905 For those of us who lived it and served during those years to speak the truth. Any time you send the military to do a job i.e. "kill people and break things." It is imperative you give them the tools and manpower and get the heck out of the way! Congress, particularly the Democrats have never learned this in the last 50+ years! As a result, thousands of American young men and (now) women will lose their lives. All so BHO can point and say "See! I told you this war was wrong!" "It is all George Bush's fault!" The trouble is, very soon, it will be very apparent to many, many people who voted for BHO, that HE sent their children off to be slaughtered by their indifference to the military and their desire to see failure at any cost! When will this country learn that if you send someone who is an expert to do a job, if you tell them how to do it, it will be done wrong, and at very large expense! If you send them to do the job, listen to their needs for doing it right, it will get done, faster, cheaper and safer! We ARE SO SCREWED! For those of us who lived it and served during those years to speak the truth. Any time you send the military to do a job i.e. “kill people and break things.” It is imperative you give them the tools and manpower and get the heck out of the way! Congress, particularly the Democrats have never learned this in the last 50+ years! As a result, thousands of American young men and (now) women will lose their lives. All so BHO can point and say “See! I told you this war was wrong!” “It is all George Bush’s fault!” The trouble is, very soon, it will be very apparent to many, many people who voted for BHO, that HE sent their children off to be slaughtered by their indifference to the military and their desire to see failure at any cost!

When will this country learn that if you send someone who is an expert to do a job, if you tell them how to do it, it will be done wrong, and at very large expense! If you send them to do the job, listen to their needs for doing it right, it will get done, faster, cheaper and safer!

We ARE SO SCREWED!

]]> By: olddog http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/05/hiding-behind-synonyms-obama-begins-campaign-to-throw-gen-mcchrystal-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-34874 olddog Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:44:35 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/erick/?p=3858#comment-34874 Barrage, Congress, that in- effectual branch of government, what with all the Czar's.,with e-mails, telegrams, and letters, we cannot let them do to these brave soldiers what the left did to Viet Vets. WE MUST STAND FOR OUR GUYS AND GALS who are in Harms way and not let this ineffectual dolt, do them in...Show them, we are behind them and have their back.. one old dog Barrage, Congress, that in- effectual branch of government, what with all the Czar’s.,with e-mails, telegrams, and letters, we cannot let them do to these brave soldiers what the left did to Viet Vets. WE MUST STAND FOR OUR GUYS AND GALS who are in Harms way and not let this ineffectual dolt, do them in…Show them, we are behind them and have their back..

one old dog

]]> By: ecroper http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/05/hiding-behind-synonyms-obama-begins-campaign-to-throw-gen-mcchrystal-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-34843 ecroper Tue, 06 Oct 2009 19:08:03 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/erick/?p=3858#comment-34843 Experiance can only be gained by having your inexperiances be exposed.Will this be achieved at the expence of Our Great Nation? Do we have safeguards in place. just incase of an administrations inability to make good decissions. Experiance can only be gained by having your inexperiances be exposed.Will this be achieved at the expence of Our Great Nation? Do we have safeguards in place. just incase of an administrations inability to make good decissions.

]]> By: ecroper http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/05/hiding-behind-synonyms-obama-begins-campaign-to-throw-gen-mcchrystal-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-34844 ecroper Tue, 06 Oct 2009 19:08:03 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/erick/?p=3858#comment-34844 Experiance can only be gained by having your inexperiances be exposed.Will this be achieved at the expence of Our Great Nation? Do we have safeguards in place. just incase of an administrations inability to make good decissions. Experiance can only be gained by having your inexperiances be exposed.Will this be achieved at the expence of Our Great Nation? Do we have safeguards in place. just incase of an administrations inability to make good decissions.

]]> By: ecroper http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/05/hiding-behind-synonyms-obama-begins-campaign-to-throw-gen-mcchrystal-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-34841 ecroper Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:55:37 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/erick/?p=3858#comment-34841 The radical underground has been exposed long ago. ,just trying to keep it exposed and stay ahead of their agenda proves to be life consuming to say the least.I would never disgrace OUR TROOPS by even remotly suggesting that they are his.He assumed the title CIC(coward in charge) by means that no one can explain YET. Its been my experiance that if you let out troops do what they need to do to WIN, this war would have been over by now.Trust me those MEN in harms way know how to end this. The cowards at hand wont let them. The radical underground has been exposed long ago. ,just trying to keep it exposed and stay ahead of their agenda proves to be life consuming to say the least.I would never disgrace OUR TROOPS by even remotly suggesting that they are his.He assumed the title CIC(coward in charge) by means that no one can explain YET. Its been my experiance that if you let out troops do what they need to do to WIN, this war would have been over by now.Trust me those MEN in harms way know how to end this. The cowards at hand wont let them.

]]> By: gemimail http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/05/hiding-behind-synonyms-obama-begins-campaign-to-throw-gen-mcchrystal-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-34831 gemimail Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:46:20 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/erick/?p=3858#comment-34831 The Iranians have to test their nuke underground because they do not have a remote South Pacific island to test it above ground. They need to make sure their design works before either putting it on rocket to hit Israel or sneaking one over here on a cargo container. Still they want to test it undetected to keep the element of surprise. By doing it near Qom, they can pass the test off as an earthquake. If it sets off a real earthquake for real and kills a few thousand of their own people, oh well you cannot make an omelet without breaking eggs. Besides these people think they can protest against their rulers and need to be taught a lesson anyway, The Iranians have to test their nuke underground because they do not have a remote South Pacific island to test it above ground. They need to make sure their design works before either putting it on rocket to hit Israel or sneaking one over here on a cargo container. Still they want to test it undetected to keep the element of surprise. By doing it near Qom, they can pass the test off as an earthquake. If it sets off a real earthquake for real and kills a few thousand of their own people, oh well you cannot make an omelet without breaking eggs. Besides these people think they can protest against their rulers and need to be taught a lesson anyway,

]]> By: merlyn http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/05/hiding-behind-synonyms-obama-begins-campaign-to-throw-gen-mcchrystal-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-34830 merlyn Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:42:25 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/erick/?p=3858#comment-34830 Many who comment on the face-off between McChrystal and zer0 compare it to the MacArthur/Truman confrontation. A better analogy and closer in time was the 1977 situation between General Singlaub and Peanut Carter. Look it up. Singlaub knew that if Peanut pulled the 2nd ID off the DMZ, the N. Koreans were prepared to invade S. Korea. He'd been briefed about this just weeks before. When Singlaub told a reporter (supposedly on 'deep background,') his views became public overnight. Peanut had a hissy fit and fired him. Jack Singlaub's background is, though much older (he was OSS), similar in a way to McChrystal's. Peanut and zer0 share a lack of brains and guts. Many who comment on the face-off between McChrystal and zer0 compare it to the MacArthur/Truman confrontation.

A better analogy and closer in time was the 1977 situation between General Singlaub and Peanut Carter. Look it up.

Singlaub knew that if Peanut pulled the 2nd ID off the DMZ, the N. Koreans were prepared to invade S. Korea. He’d been briefed about this just weeks before. When Singlaub told a reporter (supposedly on ‘deep background,’) his views became public overnight. Peanut had a hissy fit and fired him.

Jack Singlaub’s background is, though much older (he was OSS), similar in a way to McChrystal’s. Peanut and zer0 share a lack of brains and guts.

]]> By: jeannieology http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/05/hiding-behind-synonyms-obama-begins-campaign-to-throw-gen-mcchrystal-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-34828 jeannieology Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:25:21 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/erick/?p=3858#comment-34828 an "upstart!" Can you imagine the biggest upstart in the history of American politics calling the General an upstart! www.jeannie-ology.com an “upstart!” Can you imagine the biggest upstart in the history of American politics calling the General an upstart!

www.jeannie-ology.com

]]> By: Streiff http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/05/hiding-behind-synonyms-obama-begins-campaign-to-throw-gen-mcchrystal-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-34825 Streiff Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:12:15 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/erick/?p=3858#comment-34825 <blockquote>Taliban should be helping us stamp out Islamic Extremism.</blockquote> Since they *are* islamic extremists, definitionally, it is pretty freakin dumb to advocate that they help stamp themselves out.

Taliban should be helping us stamp out Islamic Extremism.

Since they *are* islamic extremists, definitionally, it is pretty freakin dumb to advocate that they help stamp themselves out.

]]> By: alamo294 http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/05/hiding-behind-synonyms-obama-begins-campaign-to-throw-gen-mcchrystal-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-34824 alamo294 Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:08:26 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/erick/?p=3858#comment-34824 You think Obama could convince them of our sincerity? What a laugh. We need to win this war by wiping out the bad guys. With BO at the helm, it won't happen. You think Obama could convince them of our sincerity? What a laugh.

We need to win this war by wiping out the bad guys. With BO at the helm, it won’t happen.

]]> By: Swamp_Yankee http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/05/hiding-behind-synonyms-obama-begins-campaign-to-throw-gen-mcchrystal-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-34821 Swamp_Yankee Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:49:42 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/erick/?p=3858#comment-34821 It doesnt matter where he was raised. And a lot of Americans think just like him, millions in fact. Its the universities and his education that perverted his sense of patriotism not his heritage. He is a neo-marxist and he and his cronies are as dangerous as one can imagine. But to assume that his flaws are rooted in his heritage undermines the hard work of conservatives trying to expose the extent of the subversive radical underground in this country and to assume his troops are some super-minority naively underestimates their stregnth. It doesnt matter where he was raised. And a lot of Americans think just like him, millions in fact.

Its the universities and his education that perverted his sense of patriotism not his heritage. He is a neo-marxist and he and his cronies are as dangerous as one can imagine. But to assume that his flaws are rooted in his heritage undermines the hard work of conservatives trying to expose the extent of the subversive radical underground in this country and to assume his troops are some super-minority naively underestimates their stregnth.

]]> By: Swamp_Yankee http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/05/hiding-behind-synonyms-obama-begins-campaign-to-throw-gen-mcchrystal-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-34822 Swamp_Yankee Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:49:42 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/erick/?p=3858#comment-34822 It doesnt matter where he was raised. And a lot of Americans think just like him, millions in fact. Its the universities and his education that perverted his sense of patriotism not his heritage. He is a neo-marxist and he and his cronies are as dangerous as one can imagine. But to assume that his flaws are rooted in his heritage undermines the hard work of conservatives trying to expose the extent of the subversive radical underground in this country and to assume his troops are some super-minority naively underestimates their stregnth. It doesnt matter where he was raised. And a lot of Americans think just like him, millions in fact.

Its the universities and his education that perverted his sense of patriotism not his heritage. He is a neo-marxist and he and his cronies are as dangerous as one can imagine. But to assume that his flaws are rooted in his heritage undermines the hard work of conservatives trying to expose the extent of the subversive radical underground in this country and to assume his troops are some super-minority naively underestimates their stregnth.

]]> By: oldphart http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/05/hiding-behind-synonyms-obama-begins-campaign-to-throw-gen-mcchrystal-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-34819 oldphart Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:32:37 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/erick/?p=3858#comment-34819 someone like Putin. As a Russian, he's a PITA for us Americans but there's never a moment when he isn't a champion for the Russian people. someone like Putin. As a Russian, he’s a PITA for us Americans but there’s never a moment when he isn’t a champion for the Russian people.

]]> By: ecroper http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/05/hiding-behind-synonyms-obama-begins-campaign-to-throw-gen-mcchrystal-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-34817 ecroper Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:17:37 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/erick/?p=3858#comment-34817 obama wasent raised here. He knows nothing about American Heritage or the Integrity it takes to be a Defender of Liberty. He doesnt even think Like any American Ive ever known.He doesnt have a clue what makes us what we are.He is risking our National security for an health care agenda that is getting our Brave U.S. Soldiers and U.N. soldiers killed.When is sombody going to make him accountable along with his media machine and all this leftist policy? Whats really going on here? obama wasent raised here. He knows nothing about American Heritage or the Integrity it takes to be a Defender of Liberty. He doesnt even think Like any American Ive ever known.He doesnt have a clue what makes us what we are.He is risking our National security for an health care agenda that is getting our Brave U.S. Soldiers and U.N. soldiers killed.When is sombody going to make him accountable along with his media machine and all this leftist policy? Whats really going on here?

]]> By: ecroper http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/05/hiding-behind-synonyms-obama-begins-campaign-to-throw-gen-mcchrystal-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-34814 ecroper Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:38:25 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/erick/?p=3858#comment-34814 ecrdd@yahoo.com ecrdd@yahoo.com

]]> By: bbuzyme http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/05/hiding-behind-synonyms-obama-begins-campaign-to-throw-gen-mcchrystal-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-34813 bbuzyme Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:35:49 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/erick/?p=3858#comment-34813 This is a great idea. Those two think they know more than the military, so let them fight the war rather than hinder the Generals. This is a great idea. Those two think they know more than the military, so let them fight the war rather than hinder the Generals.

]]> By: ecroper http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/05/hiding-behind-synonyms-obama-begins-campaign-to-throw-gen-mcchrystal-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-34812 ecroper Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:33:38 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/erick/?p=3858#comment-34812 Could you direct me to that information. I love somthing about THE TRUTH. For years Ive been trying diferent scenarios for that time period but nothing seem to work out.So please if you can Ide love to view a diferent angle. I can send you my e-mail if that would be more appropriate. Could you direct me to that information. I love somthing about THE TRUTH. For years Ive been trying diferent scenarios for that time period but nothing seem to work out.So please if you can Ide love to view a diferent angle. I can send you my e-mail if that would be more appropriate.

]]> By: texasjay http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/05/hiding-behind-synonyms-obama-begins-campaign-to-throw-gen-mcchrystal-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-34811 texasjay Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:29:55 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/erick/?p=3858#comment-34811 "Obviously one would not want a “kill them all, let God sort them out” philosophy behind our troops, but there should be better alternatives." Why not? Wars are fought between two peoples, not just their armies. If the citizens become disengaged and distanced from the reality of war, there is no incentive for peaceful resolution. I don't want to put our military in the position of having to second guess the motives of the "civilian" population that hides and / or supports combatants. These "civilians" are accessories, and justifiable targets. Sanitizing of war doesn't help. Get in, get done, get out. “Obviously one would not want a “kill them all, let God sort them out” philosophy behind our troops, but there should be better alternatives.”

Why not? Wars are fought between two peoples, not just their armies. If the citizens become disengaged and distanced from the reality of war, there is no incentive for peaceful resolution.

I don’t want to put our military in the position of having to second guess the motives of the “civilian” population that hides and / or supports combatants. These “civilians” are accessories, and justifiable targets.

Sanitizing of war doesn’t help. Get in, get done, get out.

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