New York Republicans Put Up ACORN Backed Candidate in NY-23


We have broken down in detail how ACORN has its own political party called the Working Families Party in New York. When a candidate appears as a Working Families Party candidate in New York, it is a signal that this is the candidate ACORN is putting up.

In New York’s 23rd Congressional District, the Republican Party rushed to nominate Dede Scozzafava as the replacement for Congressman McHugh, now in the Obama administration. It turns out that Scozzafava is also an ACORN backed candidate having received the Working Families Party endorsement on numerous occasions.

The great news in this district is that the Conservative Party candidate, Mr. Hoffman, is within striking distance of beating Scozzafava. We need to make sure Scozzafava is destroyed at the polls. It would be bad news to have an ACORN backed candidate infiltrating the GOP in Congress.


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If not now, when?

gator_hoo (Diary) Thursday, September 24th at 9:41PM EST (link)

Despite hundreds of thousands of people marching on Washington, despite Obama’s job approval rating being on a steeper drop than Space Mountain, despite McCain’s only real bright spot in the polls being after the choice of Palin as his VP, the Republican establishment is refusing to back conservative candidates.

Are they ever going to listen to their base?

"Are they ever going to listen to their base?"

ColdWarrior (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 12:48PM EST (link)

Hmmm. I suspect you are not a precinct committeeman in the Republican Party.

The Republican Party leadership is a reflection of its voting members. Its voting members are the precinct committeeman.

About half of the existing precinct committeeman slots nationwide in the GOP are VACANT. The current “leadership” reflects the fact that there’s about a 50-50 split in the Party nationwide, on average, between conservatives and moderates. Michael Steele’s election to the RNC chairmanship, based upon his brand of “conservatism,” reflects that split. The type of “conservatives” who win our primary contests reflect that split.

Want the “leadership” to “listen” to the conservative base you believe exists? Then create one. Get every conservative you know to become a precinct committeeman. The Republican Party is there for the taking by conservatives. If enough conservatives would leave their keyboards and desk chairs and get to a local GOP meeting NOW and volunteer to become a PC, and fill up those vacant PC ranks, we’d have a 75 per cent conservative majority in the Party and a party at FULL STRENGTH rather than half strength.

Then, there’d really be a conservative base in the Party and, if Steele and the other “leaders” would not listen to that new, strong, conservative base, the conservative majority in the voting ranks of the Party could, in the 2011 leadership elections, sweep them out of office and replace them with real conservatives.

That will only happen if YOU (assuming you aren’t already a PC) and other conservatives who have been sitting on the sidelines get out of the bleachers and go join the team so you get into the ball game and actually be a player — that is, a VOTING MEMBER of the Party. A precinct committeeman. In my opinion, that is of paramount importance for anyone who fancies himself a “conservative political activist.”

Want to learn more? Go here. Read the diary and the comments. Click on the links.

http://www.redstate.com/coldwarrior/2009/09/02/434-new-conservative-precinct-committeemen-and-counting/

Want more? Go to the Redstate.com search pane and type in the two words precinct and committeeman and then go the links and read.

There is no “conservative base” IN the Party. But there could be one. IF enough conservatives get INTO it and HIJACK it.

Or not.

If you are not already a precinct committeeman, I ask, why not?

Thank you.

ColdWarrior

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They aren't going to listen

RoguePolitics (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 1:43PM EST (link)

until WE are THEY.

“So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don’t even know that fire is hot.” George Orwell

“Ancient Rome declined because it had a Senate, now what’s going to happen to us with both a House and a Senate?” Will Rogers

When the American spirit was in its youth, the language of America was different: Liberty, sir, was the primary object. Patrick Henry

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Because the Republican Party is NOT going to fix the Republican Party.

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Because Washington is NOT going to fix Washington.

Rogue, you got it! Well said.

ColdWarrior (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 2:48PM EST (link)

Thank you.

ColdWarrior

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But... we need to win! Win! WIN!

Third Street (Diary) Thursday, September 24th at 9:43PM EST (link)

Come on, you’re just not seeing the Big Picture here!

All of you people demanding rigid ideological purity just don’t get it! All that matters is winning elections, and we can’t win elections with conservatives! We can’t even win elections with right-leaning moderates! No, the only way we can win going forward is to back as many squishy leftists with “R”‘s behind their names as possible! I’m talkin’ Crist! Fiorina! Kirk! The proud future of the GOP!

Don’t you get it? Dede Scozzafava is the hottest prospect of the entire election cycle! Not only is she one of those squishy leftists with an “R” between her name, not only will she vote to nationalize everything in sight, but she’s backed by an insane criminal organization that trafficks in 12 year-old sex slaves! Can you say BROAD-BASED APPEAL? Can you say CROSSOVER VOTE? This seat’s practically locked up for us!

I’m writing my campaign check to Dede right now!

“Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.” –Wilkins Micawber, “David Copperfield”

That was probably one of the greatest displays of sarcasm I have seen in months...well done. nt

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 8:16AM EST (link)

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

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Ditto nt

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 12:13PM EST (link)
The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 

No what can get elected is lying Democrats running as Conservatives....

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 8:20AM EST (link)

This season though for your information there will be Conservatives winning and winning BIG. Those like Crist will be going home to think about the lies they have told about being Conservative when the reality is he TAXED Floridians so much there are large swaths of that population down there NO LONGER THERE!

There is no seat locked up for US is that person votes like THEM!

 

You got it, Third Street.

LDahl752 (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 11:59AM EST (link)

Wonderfully written, even if I was gagging.

Keep focusing on winning, GOP, while our country tanks.

Linda D, Henderson NV

Heh...but the irony is...the win at any cost mentality has lost...and lost big for us hasn't it...

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 12:15PM EST (link)

and this time we’re doubling down with the most liberal selection of Senators the NRSC can find!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 

555 nt

RoguePolitics (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 1:38PM EST (link)

“So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don’t even know that fire is hot.” George Orwell

“Ancient Rome declined because it had a Senate, now what’s going to happen to us with both a House and a Senate?” Will Rogers

When the American spirit was in its youth, the language of America was different: Liberty, sir, was the primary object. Patrick Henry

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Because the Republican Party is NOT going to fix the Republican Party.

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Because Washington is NOT going to fix Washington.

 
 

What ever happened to?

SteveLA (Diary) Thursday, September 24th at 9:46PM EST (link)

Erick,

There’s been a bit of past commentary about this being a “Republican” site first, even in the posting rules, “The purpose of this site is promote conservative and Republican ideals.”
. Matter of fact comments dealing with third parties have been met with some amount of derision. So this entry is a bit of an exclamation point of change, or am reading this wrong, I’ve been known to do that.

I’ve got no dog in this fight, being out here in CA and not knowing anything about Ms.Dede Scozzafava her connection to Acorn…nothing at all, but seems that you’re promoting a candidate of the Conservative Party here, which is not the candidate of the Republican party obviously.

Are we seeing a mission shift of RS, away from being a Republican site first with a strong leading to the conservative side or something else?

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Competency over ideological purity and litmus tests

Steve

Erick Erickson (Diary) Thursday, September 24th at 9:58PM EST (link)

I’ve written about this before. Sometimes there are exceptions that fit the rules. I’ll find you the post when I land (on an airplane and out of battery juice)

Who will stand on either hand and keep this bridge with me?

Fair enough

SteveLA (Diary) Thursday, September 24th at 10:13PM EST (link)

Erick,

Fair enough, I’ll look forward to your post.

But remember, you may unleash the dogs of war, like Ace with “exceptions”…:)

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Competency over ideological purity and litmus tests

 
 

Republican?

jerseygalnny Friday, September 25th at 7:58AM EST (link)

Doug Hoffman IS a Republican, who met with the county chairpersons to be considered for McHugh’s seat. You have more of a dog in this fight than you realize. This election will happen THIS November, and will set the tone for 2010, and the GOP has nominated a person who is pro abortion, pro gay marriage, and pro card-check, whose husband is the district president of the AFL-CIO. Connect the dots here….Husband is district president of AFL-CIO, she supports card-check, AND secures the endorsement of ACORN’s Working Families Party. Every American has a dog in the NY23rd’s fight, my friend. Americans are fortunate that the Conservative Party will run this candidate. She is also facing state and federal tax liens involving a family owned business, which like Obama, she claimed direct involvement with to get elected to the state assembly, but now claims no involvement with said business.

Incidentally, recent polling indicates a statistical 3-way tie.

I commend RS for recognizing the true conservative here, and informing its subscribers of the circumstances. The GOP needs a serious wake-up call, like the 912 march on DC.

 

There was no primary in this race

Neil Stevens (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 8:00AM EST (link)

This was a case where a few empowered officials got to pick a candidate on their own, without the input of the actual Republican Party.

Not having been consulted, the base has no obligation to follow along.

This is another disaster in the making like the recall of Gray Davis.

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The real issue here

SteveLA (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 10:43AM EST (link)

I think Neil has hit on the critical nature of this issue, no primary, that lends some credibility to this being a bad race. Without a Primary, it’s selected not elected for the R. standard bearer.

If the R voters of the 23rd had voted in a primary for Ms Scozzafava, well then that would have reflected who they wanted to represent them in Congress, this way, not so much.

Still, I’m not much into third parties, and “sending messages”, not much into that ether.

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Competency over ideological purity and litmus tests

I'm not big on either anymore myself

Neil Stevens (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 11:48AM EST (link)

When Erick first started talking about this conservative, my first complaint was that we shouldn’t be like Ron Paul, and make sour grapes defection.

Then I was informed that there was no primary, so that problem was solved.

My next issue was to ask if the conservative had a chance to win. I’d hate to back someone with no chance to win, as in the aftermath of Tom Delay’s quitting his election. That would only split the right vote.

But the people who study this district and poll it, all say the conservative can win this three way race.

The candidate himself is a Republican (New York ballot lines are weird; you can have Ds on the R line and vice-versa), and is much more sensible and in line with the party mainstream than the official Republican is.

A vote for Hoffman is like a vote for McClintock in the Recall, only better, because Hoffman has a much better shot to win than McClintock did.

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Bravo Neil...we agree totally here...I like your reasoning! nt

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 1:18PM EST (link)
The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 

hey steve...isn't this a primary...I thought you guys were all for us going at it in the primaries...

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 12:17PM EST (link)

and shutting up and getting in line for the General?

when I guess the truth is…you want conservatives to shut up and get in line period…be seen and not heard and all that!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson

to be fair to you Steve...having re-read your post...

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 1:15PM EST (link)

if I’m reading it right the second time through..and now having re-red Erick’s post…I see Mr. Hoffman is a third party candidate and your point is well taken…I’ll retract the harshness of my initial response here..

Having been threatened never to mention the words third and party together in a sentence by Leon I’ll keep my mouth shut from here…but I agree with Erick on this.

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 
 

Where is the GOP?

1stRichard (Diary) Thursday, September 24th at 11:11PM EST (link)

How about backing some conservatives? Rumors are, Earl Sholley for Congress (against Barney Frank) http://sholleyforcongress.us/ Jay Fleitman for Congress http://www.jayfleitman.com/ and Scott Brown for U.S. Senate are in trouble because someone in the GOP wants someone more liberal. I hope this is not true. While their liberal opponents receive millions from their party I am hearing Sholley, Fleitman and Brown are not likely to receive one cent of GOP support. Confirmed, Fleitman just the other day told me he is receiving no support from the GOP. Sholley and Fleitman are conservatives as I have spoken with them personally. In Fleitman’s district, I am seeing an all time high of frustration, from tax increases, shameful displays, blatant Marxism from our governor and it is now or never to put some support in to Fleitman’s district.

Move on .org had a protest in Springfield MA to support HC, about 20 or so showed and they were the “Angry Mob”, well with just a bit of provocation. Yes, an extremely low turnout for liberals in this area and likely confirmation they are in a decline. In sloppy military fashion, they were goose-stepping around in a circle shouting healthcare NOW! The street reaction was mostly negative to the far left wing protest calling them the “Angry Mob”. They did attract some guy dressed up in green with fairy wings and cradling toy car. They were shouting and yelling at us calling us Nazis and other profanities, typical of far left wing radicals. I tried to have a civil discussion with them and they tore up my flyer and went in to a childish rant, thank you for the display. When some of them came over to provoke us we simply smiled and said have a nice day. This so infuriated them they call the cops on us! I suppose being nice is a criminal offence to these left wing loons. Anyway, we are seeing a major shift in public opinion with the majority, the independents.

What a prize that would be to see some red spots in Massachusetts, but I suppose the GOP thinks differently.

This is why the line Conservatives "Can't" win in the North Eats and CA is a lie...

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 1:28PM EST (link)

it could be true…but we’ll never know will we?

The Party is supposed to recruit candidates the support our message…our message is shaped by our platform…the party is supposed to communicate our message to the electorate which means the party should be communicating the platform to potential voters and making a case why it’s the right course for this nation to follow…yet not only does the Party not communicate any of this to potential voters in these areas…(and I would argue on a national level)…the refuse to support any candidate that supports this message…all the while making the absolute statement that the message they refuse to communicate and the candidates who support that message has no chance!

It’s self fulfilling and frustrating beyond meassure!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 

What's in an R

ejsohio Friday, September 25th at 5:58AM EST (link)

Erick,

You’re right. It does no good to simply elect someone with the Republican Party affiliation. We need more Conservatives and fewer party members in the halls of Congress.

Communicate and support our Platform!!!

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 1:30PM EST (link)

That’s what the “PARTY” should be doing…not running away from it and undercutting any who would do so!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 

Out the RINOs!

dezmartin Friday, September 25th at 7:01AM EST (link)

Things like this are the reason I left the Republican party and independently support only true conservtives. “Third Street”‘s post is exactly right, in his/her tongue-in-cheek way, illustrating the slippery slope of electing RINOs simply so the “party” can win.

 

Support Hoffman

jerseygalnny Friday, September 25th at 7:44AM EST (link)

As a lifelong Republican, and resident of NY’s 23rd, I am disgusted with the choice of Dede Scozzafava by the local GOP, and now the National GOP is sticking with her.

This special election will happen in less than 2 months! It will be a bellwether for 2010 Congressional elections. I urge everyone who is able to contribute to Doug Hoffman.

http://conservativebloggersforhoffman.blogspot.com/2009/09/why-conservative-republicans-support.html

Scozzafava’s husband is the district president of the AFL-CIO, and she is pro-abortion, pro-card check (gee, hubby’s influence there?) and pro gay marriage. NOT a conservative.

Hoffman IS a Republican, and the one we need to send to DC!

 

MSM talk about rightward drift in GOP is laughable.

thevagabond Friday, September 25th at 7:53AM EST (link)

I’m essentially a one-issue voter: I vote for the least socialist candidate. In 2008 this meant voting for a socialist over a communist. There’s not even such a thing as the anti-socialist wing of the Republican Party. Sad.

So what are you doing about it?

Neil Stevens (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 7:59AM EST (link)

How was your last party county meeting?

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Erick, this post was pure trollbait

Neil Stevens (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 8:02AM EST (link)

It had to be said, but a bunch of stick in the mud losers are going to use this post as an excuse for their all around inaction and failure in politics.

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Thanks for letting me know what credentials are needed.

thevagabond Friday, September 25th at 8:18AM EST (link)

Neil – Involved in Republican and Libertarian Party politics on various levels in Va. and CA for many years. Not really currently interested in attending Martin County, Florida, Republican Party meetings, where Charley Crist is considered mainstream Republican. Sorry I don’t meet your credentials for commenting.

Apathy leads to failure...become the change you seek.

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 8:26AM EST (link)

Or don’t blame the party for not listening to you when you refuse to stand up and be heard.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


5 to infinity...nt

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 1:44PM EST (link)
The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 

Whatever

Neil Stevens (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 10:04AM EST (link)

Whatever excuse you’re going to come up with to run off to the freaks, kooks, and total losers of the Libertarian party, I really don’t care.

But can the Republican bashing. The credential that matters here is that you’re on our side, and Republican bashers fail the test.

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Lighten up.

thevagabond Friday, September 25th at 10:07AM EST (link)

I went from the Libertarian Party to the Republican Party. Lighten up, You’re the one out of line here, not me.

I must look away now

Jack_Savage (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 10:14AM EST (link)

No – I cannot! I must look, no matter what happens, for I shall learn! Be strong, brave Jack, and see!

 

I'll take that as a retraction of your first comment

Neil Stevens (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 10:14AM EST (link)

Thank you for admitting this comment was competely wrong, foolish, and inappropriate for this venue.

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I don't agree with the attitude of Neil's post

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 1:41PM EST (link)

because it assumes many of us who are raising Cain aren’t interested in helping or aren’t involved…I for one am…and I think sending a message is sometimes necessary…

But I have to agree with him where your attitude is concerned…you act like not attending your party meetings hurts the people currently in charge…they could care less if you attend…and in fact count on the fact that you and many like you won’t so they can keep shoving the Crists, Scozzafavas, Kirks, ad en finitum down our throats while we stand around wondering how they did it …it’s how they live and survive in a party who disagrees with them…

You need to attend…and you need to bring as many conservative friends as you can with you…it’s the only way we’re going to change this…Neil and I have had our go rounds I think because he thinks all I do is complain and don’t work on changing things…but on this we are in total agreement…if you don’t like the way things are with your local party…or the party in general…show up…and work to change it!

But be prepared…you won’t be welcomed…you’ll be faced with every gun in the room the first time you open your mouth to object to what the old guard says…but don’t back down…and make sure you have good people around you wqhen you open up!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 
 

Is it the same for WFP candidates in surrounding states, like CT?

kyoufuu (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 8:34AM EST (link)

I recall seeing Rosa DeLauro on the WFP line in 2008, as well as my state senator (a Republican).

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Capitalism

reddevil52 Friday, September 25th at 10:16AM EST (link)

Capitalism belongs in hell
Mmm, mmm, mm
My kid heard it at show and tell,
Mmm, mmm, mm
The NEA says; “Not our fault!’
It must be some ACORN cult,

 
 

Contributing to Hoffman, IMHO,

eburke (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 10:14AM EST (link)

is a two-fer:

1) we get to elect a Republican who’s actually a Republican, and,

2) we get to poke a sharp stick in the eyes of that portion of the old-guard GOP ‘leaders’ who still don’t get it.

My $50 is on its way.

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

Unified Patriots

 

That cat's out of the bag Erick...the SEIU gave $50,000 to the Republican Main Street Partnership and

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 12:10PM EST (link)

It would be bad news to have an ACORN backed candidate infiltrating the GOP in Congress.

I am tracing other such contributions to individual candidates by ACORN affiliates…I just don’t have time to write about it!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson

Acorn is working on our side of the isle too...they're just deeper in the shadows with our RINOs...nt

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, September 25th at 12:11PM EST (link)
The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson