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	<title>Comments on: Inside The ACORN Rolodex: ACORN Has Its Own Political Party Other Than the Democrats</title>
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		<title>By: Rod_Patrick</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gahazzah</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t expect Erick to carry everybody&#039;s water so if an idea pops up that might help, it&#039;s sometimes useful to throw it out there. When you&#039;re looking at raw data and trying to figure out connections sometimes the obvious escapes oneself.

I&#039;m sure Erick is smart enough to figure this out but if everybody posted on here only what they thought others didn&#039;t know (or couldn&#039;t think of) the site would be without comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t expect Erick to carry everybody&#8217;s water so if an idea pops up that might help, it&#8217;s sometimes useful to throw it out there. When you&#8217;re looking at raw data and trying to figure out connections sometimes the obvious escapes oneself.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Erick is smart enough to figure this out but if everybody posted on here only what they thought others didn&#8217;t know (or couldn&#8217;t think of) the site would be without comments.</p>
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		<title>By: olddog</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when does O&#039;s benevolent Government turn malevolent?  IE: the (chains ) change America asked for.

Old Dog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when does O&#8217;s benevolent Government turn malevolent?  IE: the (chains ) change America asked for.</p>
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		<title>By: archer52</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 02:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I&#039;ve said before, Obama&#039;s almost &quot;Brokeback Mountain&quot; attraction to Chavez is unnerving.  Especially since he is working hand in hand to further Chavez&#039;s attempt to takeover Honduras. 

At another website I commented on the possibility that we are having trouble understanding Obama because as Americans we have a virtue which can also be a curse and that is we always try to find the best in other people.   We do it personally, professionally, and sadly, politically.  

I&#039;ve read and listened to all sides of the centrist to right to far right arguments.  (I can&#039;t do the left, they are simply insane.)  When Charles Krauthammer gave his opinion about Obama, I saw that he did his best to wring out the good qualities Obama had; intelligent, charming, driven, blah blah blah.  Krauthhammer and others excused Obama&#039;s missteps as &quot;rookie-ness&quot;, tried to explain his comments and his acts as having a bad staff or a poor understanding of history or diplomatic manners.  Everybody is quick to trot out the tired and worn out excuse that all new Presidents make mistakes. 

Yet, as we move into his fourth quarter of his first year the missteps are getting harder and harder to explain.  The Russian/Poland deal, his backhanded slap to the Iranian protesters, his love affair with all that is Chavez, and now Honduras. 

Many people are confused and frustrated in trying to put the square peg of our past experiences with presidents into the round hole we are seeing that is Obama&#039;s behavior.   I don&#039;t know how many times intelligent, thinking people I know have scratched their heads and wondered out loud how Obama could think he was doing the right thing when he committed some bizarre action.  For example, the speech to the children; many said other Presidents did it before, as they ground that square peg down, but they didn&#039;t address the worksheet and the details of the initial speech, before he got caught and modified it.  (Speaking of getting caught, ask yourself what his presidency would look like if there were no checks on his behavior and agenda.  Would it resemble more a Chavez administration?)  Then there was the hiring of far left radicals, well known far left radicals to boot.  People we all read about, but figured no one would seriously consider them for a powerful government position.  Yet, there they are.  Why?  

At some point you have to put aside the tried and true explanations used as an attempt to quantify Obama and look outside the box.   In my old business of catching bad guys, I always took the time to study motives.  Why do they do what they do?  Often it gave insight as to who the bad guy was, and what he might try next. 

With Obama you look at his actions and you find yourself bending over backwards to make sense of it.  I suggest you stop.  Let what you see guide you to the motive and the man.  What kind of man embraces Iran and shuns Israel?  What kind of man is raised by a radical liberal, surrounded by radical liberals and communists, went to school and sought out radical liberals and communists, worked with and was picked promoted and presented to us by radical liberals with communist/socialist backgrounds?  He is the total sum of his life.  He is what he is, and nothing in his life to this point has forced him to change that.  

If you take Barack Obama and look at him clearly, not with you hoping for the best, what do you see?  Would his actions fit the mold of a socialist/communist better than a simply misguided leftie?   Why do we think the best for Obama and acted surprised when he brakes and turns hard left every chance he gets.  If we had elected Bernie Sanders from Vermont, a committed socialist, and he acted like one, we wouldn&#039;t be shocked.  If we elected David Duke back in his heyday and found him shopping for white sheets at JC Penny, we wouldn&#039;t say, &quot;Didn&#039;t see that coming.&quot;   If by some freak accident we elected a clone of Ahmadinejad and he started railing about the Jews, we wouldn&#039;t have expected anything else.  

So why are we surprised over Obama? Because he told us he is post racial, post partisanship, the new era of politics? I think now, after all we have seen and all Obama has said that wasn&#039;t true, we can draw at least one conclusion- he lies.

Obama is who he is.  The quicker we grasp that the better we can begin to resist the direction he will have to lead us in.  He can&#039;t help himself, it is his nature. 

There is an old fable I use to try and explain this to people who still want to believe the best in all of humanity.  It goes like this; 
There was a terrible rain. The water in the river was rising and all the animals were trying to flee the island they were on before it went under.  There was a rabbit, a turtle, a fox and a scorpion.  They all started to swim across except the scorpion for he could not swim.  He asked the rabbit if the rabbit would let him ride on his back. The rabbit said no, worried that the scorpion, who was mean by nature, would sting him.  The scorpion cried out saying he would not.  The scorpion asked the turtle and the turtle refused.  The scorpion asked the fox and the fox at first refused, but the scorpion said, &quot;Fox, ask why I would sting you? I cannot swim, if I stung you, you would die, and then I would surely drown.  That makes no sense.&quot;  The fox, who thought himself smarter than the others decided the scorpion must be telling the truth.  So he let the scorpion climb onto his back and they both began across the river.  About halfway across the scorpion stung the fox.  The fox, dying, rolled over and looked at the scorpion in shock and horror. &quot;Why&quot;, he asked, &quot;did you sting me? Now I will die and you will die!&quot; 
The scorpion looked at the fox and said, &quot;I couldn&#039;t help myself. It&#039;s my nature.&quot;

My advice to you with Obama is simple. Be careful or you might find yourself stung as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I&#8217;ve said before, Obama&#8217;s almost &#8220;Brokeback Mountain&#8221; attraction to Chavez is unnerving.  Especially since he is working hand in hand to further Chavez&#8217;s attempt to takeover Honduras. </p>
<p>At another website I commented on the possibility that we are having trouble understanding Obama because as Americans we have a virtue which can also be a curse and that is we always try to find the best in other people.   We do it personally, professionally, and sadly, politically.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read and listened to all sides of the centrist to right to far right arguments.  (I can&#8217;t do the left, they are simply insane.)  When Charles Krauthammer gave his opinion about Obama, I saw that he did his best to wring out the good qualities Obama had; intelligent, charming, driven, blah blah blah.  Krauthhammer and others excused Obama&#8217;s missteps as &#8220;rookie-ness&#8221;, tried to explain his comments and his acts as having a bad staff or a poor understanding of history or diplomatic manners.  Everybody is quick to trot out the tired and worn out excuse that all new Presidents make mistakes. </p>
<p>Yet, as we move into his fourth quarter of his first year the missteps are getting harder and harder to explain.  The Russian/Poland deal, his backhanded slap to the Iranian protesters, his love affair with all that is Chavez, and now Honduras. </p>
<p>Many people are confused and frustrated in trying to put the square peg of our past experiences with presidents into the round hole we are seeing that is Obama&#8217;s behavior.   I don&#8217;t know how many times intelligent, thinking people I know have scratched their heads and wondered out loud how Obama could think he was doing the right thing when he committed some bizarre action.  For example, the speech to the children; many said other Presidents did it before, as they ground that square peg down, but they didn&#8217;t address the worksheet and the details of the initial speech, before he got caught and modified it.  (Speaking of getting caught, ask yourself what his presidency would look like if there were no checks on his behavior and agenda.  Would it resemble more a Chavez administration?)  Then there was the hiring of far left radicals, well known far left radicals to boot.  People we all read about, but figured no one would seriously consider them for a powerful government position.  Yet, there they are.  Why?  </p>
<p>At some point you have to put aside the tried and true explanations used as an attempt to quantify Obama and look outside the box.   In my old business of catching bad guys, I always took the time to study motives.  Why do they do what they do?  Often it gave insight as to who the bad guy was, and what he might try next. </p>
<p>With Obama you look at his actions and you find yourself bending over backwards to make sense of it.  I suggest you stop.  Let what you see guide you to the motive and the man.  What kind of man embraces Iran and shuns Israel?  What kind of man is raised by a radical liberal, surrounded by radical liberals and communists, went to school and sought out radical liberals and communists, worked with and was picked promoted and presented to us by radical liberals with communist/socialist backgrounds?  He is the total sum of his life.  He is what he is, and nothing in his life to this point has forced him to change that.  </p>
<p>If you take Barack Obama and look at him clearly, not with you hoping for the best, what do you see?  Would his actions fit the mold of a socialist/communist better than a simply misguided leftie?   Why do we think the best for Obama and acted surprised when he brakes and turns hard left every chance he gets.  If we had elected Bernie Sanders from Vermont, a committed socialist, and he acted like one, we wouldn&#8217;t be shocked.  If we elected David Duke back in his heyday and found him shopping for white sheets at JC Penny, we wouldn&#8217;t say, &#8220;Didn&#8217;t see that coming.&#8221;   If by some freak accident we elected a clone of Ahmadinejad and he started railing about the Jews, we wouldn&#8217;t have expected anything else.  </p>
<p>So why are we surprised over Obama? Because he told us he is post racial, post partisanship, the new era of politics? I think now, after all we have seen and all Obama has said that wasn&#8217;t true, we can draw at least one conclusion- he lies.</p>
<p>Obama is who he is.  The quicker we grasp that the better we can begin to resist the direction he will have to lead us in.  He can&#8217;t help himself, it is his nature. </p>
<p>There is an old fable I use to try and explain this to people who still want to believe the best in all of humanity.  It goes like this;<br />
There was a terrible rain. The water in the river was rising and all the animals were trying to flee the island they were on before it went under.  There was a rabbit, a turtle, a fox and a scorpion.  They all started to swim across except the scorpion for he could not swim.  He asked the rabbit if the rabbit would let him ride on his back. The rabbit said no, worried that the scorpion, who was mean by nature, would sting him.  The scorpion cried out saying he would not.  The scorpion asked the turtle and the turtle refused.  The scorpion asked the fox and the fox at first refused, but the scorpion said, &#8220;Fox, ask why I would sting you? I cannot swim, if I stung you, you would die, and then I would surely drown.  That makes no sense.&#8221;  The fox, who thought himself smarter than the others decided the scorpion must be telling the truth.  So he let the scorpion climb onto his back and they both began across the river.  About halfway across the scorpion stung the fox.  The fox, dying, rolled over and looked at the scorpion in shock and horror. &#8220;Why&#8221;, he asked, &#8220;did you sting me? Now I will die and you will die!&#8221;<br />
The scorpion looked at the fox and said, &#8220;I couldn&#8217;t help myself. It&#8217;s my nature.&#8221;</p>
<p>My advice to you with Obama is simple. Be careful or you might find yourself stung as well.</p>
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		<title>By: JadedByPolitics</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that he thought all of that through and is already making those connections and deleting what is not important?  Let the story slide out like the video&#039;s did one day at a time and the true illegality of the work that Lewis does and the connections all the way to the WH show its self.  It is a damn shame that Erick Erickson of RedState has to do the work of the media and anything we can do to help move that information around w/o being defeatist about it is what we will do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that he thought all of that through and is already making those connections and deleting what is not important?  Let the story slide out like the video&#8217;s did one day at a time and the true illegality of the work that Lewis does and the connections all the way to the WH show its self.  It is a damn shame that Erick Erickson of RedState has to do the work of the media and anything we can do to help move that information around w/o being defeatist about it is what we will do!</p>
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		<title>By: Yankee Sailor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yankee Sailor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forest City collects millions from Sailors, Airmen and Marines running military housing around the country. Now I know what they do with all that extra money by charging me &quot;rent&quot; that&#039;s 50% above market rents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forest City collects millions from Sailors, Airmen and Marines running military housing around the country. Now I know what they do with all that extra money by charging me &#8220;rent&#8221; that&#8217;s 50% above market rents.</p>
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		<title>By: gahazzah</title>
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		<dc:creator>gahazzah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t making the point that ACORN is on the &quot;up and up&quot; or that things are &quot;that simple&quot;. I should have clarified.

There are 1,849 contacts, many of which are not current. That being said, the only way to gleam meaningful information from such a huge list is to narrow down the relevant contacts. A contact that hasn&#039;t been updated in &quot;x&quot; amount of time, say since the 2006 election cycle, who gave money during that campaign might be a red herring. It bears looking into possible connections and trying to see if there is a relevant way that such contacts might be meaningful but you have to assume that not every contact is a conspiracy in the making.

It makes perfect sense that Lewis would have WFP AND ACORN contacts as she is chair of both. But it makes sense for 1 of 2 reasons. 1) She just happens to be chair of both. 2) She is chair of both to cast doubt on the connections.

Lewis is going to lie about anything that could cast a shadow on ACORN and WFP. That being said you have to narrow down how people are involved. ACORN and WFP have to get their money from somewhere. Erick has a list of ACORN contacts, he can filter that through somewhere like OpenSecrets to see if they gave money to WFP or got money from them. It&#039;s not that it&#039;s &quot;that simple&quot;, it&#039;s just one more avenue to search for meaning in a web that wraps around the country.

Basically, know your the next move your enemy plans and act accordingly. Lewis will say &quot;x&quot; contact is because they gave money or met at &quot;y&quot; event. Find something deeper and coincidences can be dispelled with the likelihood of criminality being exposed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t making the point that ACORN is on the &#8220;up and up&#8221; or that things are &#8220;that simple&#8221;. I should have clarified.</p>
<p>There are 1,849 contacts, many of which are not current. That being said, the only way to gleam meaningful information from such a huge list is to narrow down the relevant contacts. A contact that hasn&#8217;t been updated in &#8220;x&#8221; amount of time, say since the 2006 election cycle, who gave money during that campaign might be a red herring. It bears looking into possible connections and trying to see if there is a relevant way that such contacts might be meaningful but you have to assume that not every contact is a conspiracy in the making.</p>
<p>It makes perfect sense that Lewis would have WFP AND ACORN contacts as she is chair of both. But it makes sense for 1 of 2 reasons. 1) She just happens to be chair of both. 2) She is chair of both to cast doubt on the connections.</p>
<p>Lewis is going to lie about anything that could cast a shadow on ACORN and WFP. That being said you have to narrow down how people are involved. ACORN and WFP have to get their money from somewhere. Erick has a list of ACORN contacts, he can filter that through somewhere like OpenSecrets to see if they gave money to WFP or got money from them. It&#8217;s not that it&#8217;s &#8220;that simple&#8221;, it&#8217;s just one more avenue to search for meaning in a web that wraps around the country.</p>
<p>Basically, know your the next move your enemy plans and act accordingly. Lewis will say &#8220;x&#8221; contact is because they gave money or met at &#8220;y&#8221; event. Find something deeper and coincidences can be dispelled with the likelihood of criminality being exposed.</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not in any legislative body.  That&#039;s work for staffers, both legislative and executive, lobbyists, and consultants.  I could show you the working drafts of a lot of Alaska legislation right here on this computer.

I said the other day that there wouldn&#039;t be a meaningful investigation of ACORN, nor will they actually cut off their funding.  They got their splash by doing it now they&#039;ll put it back in and nobody will know but us right wing nuts that listen to Rush and Beck and type in our bathrobes.  Though today, we&#039;re out of milk, so I&#039;m actually dressed now and am heading for the store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not in any legislative body.  That&#8217;s work for staffers, both legislative and executive, lobbyists, and consultants.  I could show you the working drafts of a lot of Alaska legislation right here on this computer.</p>
<p>I said the other day that there wouldn&#8217;t be a meaningful investigation of ACORN, nor will they actually cut off their funding.  They got their splash by doing it now they&#8217;ll put it back in and nobody will know but us right wing nuts that listen to Rush and Beck and type in our bathrobes.  Though today, we&#8217;re out of milk, so I&#8217;m actually dressed now and am heading for the store.</p>
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		<title>By: Scope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for the soon to be forced on you position as leader of the transition team for the incoming Conservative majorities!  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for the soon to be forced on you position as leader of the transition team for the incoming Conservative majorities!  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Scope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and at times like that, I do agree with getting the job done, with the right people.  You are correct that the Czars have no bill passing and signatory powers, but, Obamas communists I believe are the ones actually writing the bills.  Didn&#039;t Reid thank the Appollo organization for their &quot;work&quot; on the stimulus bill?  Why should they read the bills, when whatever has been written by the shadow government will be passed no questions asked.  BTW, I read today that Dirty Harry Reid will not bring any investigations of ACORN into the Senate.  He claims that the &quot;other&quot; organizations that are supposedly conducting investigations are sufficient.  He &quot;DOESN&#039;T WANT TO POLITICIZE THE INVESTIGATIONS.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and at times like that, I do agree with getting the job done, with the right people.  You are correct that the Czars have no bill passing and signatory powers, but, Obamas communists I believe are the ones actually writing the bills.  Didn&#8217;t Reid thank the Appollo organization for their &#8220;work&#8221; on the stimulus bill?  Why should they read the bills, when whatever has been written by the shadow government will be passed no questions asked.  BTW, I read today that Dirty Harry Reid will not bring any investigations of ACORN into the Senate.  He claims that the &#8220;other&#8221; organizations that are supposedly conducting investigations are sufficient.  He &#8220;DOESN&#8217;T WANT TO POLITICIZE THE INVESTIGATIONS.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They may have great power over those who do, however.  I don&#039;t like it, but it is just a reflection of the world the Democrats have made.  I&#039;m a tit for tat kinda guy.  I&#039;m not going to commit political suicide by standing on principle.  If we hold an office with appointment powers and they won&#039;t confirm, I think you just find a work around.

Now what he&#039;s doing is he knows that NOBODY outside Bezerkley would want to even be associated with some of these people and even most of the lefty Democrats wouldn&#039;t want a vote on record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They may have great power over those who do, however.  I don&#8217;t like it, but it is just a reflection of the world the Democrats have made.  I&#8217;m a tit for tat kinda guy.  I&#8217;m not going to commit political suicide by standing on principle.  If we hold an office with appointment powers and they won&#8217;t confirm, I think you just find a work around.</p>
<p>Now what he&#8217;s doing is he knows that NOBODY outside Bezerkley would want to even be associated with some of these people and even most of the lefty Democrats wouldn&#8217;t want a vote on record.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Scope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because it has been very difficult to get some good people past the confirmation process,  beginning with Bork, and denigrating from there, I can see a &quot;few&quot; presidential appointments in high level policy promoting positions.&quot;  But, something like 44 Czars, who are highly paid, by us the taxpayers, and answering to no one but the Communist, why then even have a Senate and House?  Didn&#039;t the Constitution give the power to the Legislative branch, in order to pass bills, rather than to concentrate the powers in the Executive branch?  You did address the fact that the current crop of Czars are not those that should have any say, because some are as radically communist, or even more so than the Obominator.  The fact that they are selected rather than elected takes any power away from the citizens, and just forces all of us to sit over there and just shut up.  If they are allowed, and are given any powers by a president, R or D, then it becomes the shadow government that you have  warned against, and written about.  How can we ever hope to stop the march away from the Constitution, if we do the same dam* thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because it has been very difficult to get some good people past the confirmation process,  beginning with Bork, and denigrating from there, I can see a &#8220;few&#8221; presidential appointments in high level policy promoting positions.&#8221;  But, something like 44 Czars, who are highly paid, by us the taxpayers, and answering to no one but the Communist, why then even have a Senate and House?  Didn&#8217;t the Constitution give the power to the Legislative branch, in order to pass bills, rather than to concentrate the powers in the Executive branch?  You did address the fact that the current crop of Czars are not those that should have any say, because some are as radically communist, or even more so than the Obominator.  The fact that they are selected rather than elected takes any power away from the citizens, and just forces all of us to sit over there and just shut up.  If they are allowed, and are given any powers by a president, R or D, then it becomes the shadow government that you have  warned against, and written about.  How can we ever hope to stop the march away from the Constitution, if we do the same dam* thing?</p>
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		<title>By: seandparnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>seandparnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to go out on a limb here and suggest that linking to DailyKos from here isn&#039;t really viewed favorably, but there is actually a diarist over there that has done a pretty good job describing the - let&#039;s for amusement&#039;s sake call them &quot;massive irregularities&quot;  - engaged in by the Working Families Party. To followers of ACORN corruption scandals the tale sounds very familiar.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/8/19/1621/75381

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/8/17/181643/881

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/3/133158/8694

Sean Parnell
President
Center for Competitive Politics
http://www.campaignfreedom.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to go out on a limb here and suggest that linking to DailyKos from here isn&#8217;t really viewed favorably, but there is actually a diarist over there that has done a pretty good job describing the &#8211; let&#8217;s for amusement&#8217;s sake call them &#8220;massive irregularities&#8221;  &#8211; engaged in by the Working Families Party. To followers of ACORN corruption scandals the tale sounds very familiar.</p>
<p>http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/8/19/1621/75381</p>
<p>http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/8/17/181643/881</p>
<p>http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/3/133158/8694</p>
<p>Sean Parnell<br />
President<br />
Center for Competitive Politics<br />
http://www.campaignfreedom.org</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think as long as they don&#039;t wield the actual authority of an officer requiring confirmation, they&#039;re Constitutional.  In fact, I&#039;ve long advocated that Republican executives do the same thing.  Especially if you&#039;re a Republican, you are simply going to be trashed in the confirmation process, so lots of good people won&#039;t take the appointments.  I don&#039;t think I&#039;d take an appointment that required confirmation.  I don&#039;t mind being called names as long as it&#039;s by the right people, but it really upsets my wife.  I&#039;d go so far as to leave cabinet slots vacant and only make interim appointments.  That way I can get somebody with a track record and who knows what they&#039;re doing, not some namby-pamby with no record that can get past the slime machine.

&#039;Course, communist thug that he is, Comrade Obama is doing it as much to give some of his &quot;oppressed&quot; buddies a fancy salary and title just to spite the honky dogs as he is for any real expertise they might have.  What the Republicans would find if they were to try actually forcefully opposing these people is that they are not at all formidable.  The only places that unions and lefties can prosper is in places where there is no opposition.  These punks and thugs have never had any opposition in places like Chicago, SFO, and NYC.  I mean they thought they were showing power to &quot;the man&quot; when they shook down businesses in those places, but actually the businesses knew that they could get neither justice nor support from the Democrat government, so they just paid - or moved if it got too bad.

The Democrat Knowles Administration ran a lot of this same playbook, it&#039;s a union playbook and AFSCME was calling the shots here.  Except, they only had the Executive Branch, the Republicans held both bodies of the Legislature.  One of the things they did was completely wipe out the State&#039;s central personnel and labor relations functions. The devolved it all away to the operating departments and ran all the skilled hands off.  That way it was safe to make nice Democrat patronage hires into any job and at any pay anywhere in the government without any of those stinking qualifications and stuff getting in the way.  With no meaningful L/R, the unions didn&#039;t need to actually negotiate and administer labor agreements.  The Administration&#039;s labor policy for the first six years was &quot;ask the union what it wants.&quot;  They didn&#039;t need to arbitrate grievances.  First there weren&#039;t many because the union was free to intimidate supervisors, so they didn&#039;t much supevise.  Second, they didn&#039;t really even need to file grievances and take the case to arbitration when all they had to do was call a commissioner or the Gov&#039;s Office and they&#039;d get what they wanted.  Even after they got tired of the constant demands and after I came back in &#039;99, it was all too common to have a case set to go to arbitration when suddenly a signed resolution totally against the State&#039;s interest would come down from the Commissioner&#039;s office.

Before this becomes a book; Democrats always think that they&#039;ll never lose and election and will be in power forever, so they never think about what the other guy will do.  When we took over in &#039;02, we were very quickly able to restore basic functionality in these functions that the Ds had tried to destroy.  But the unions in eight years had essentially forgotten how to do the hard work, not that any of them were very good at it to begin with.  Frankly, clamping down on them was like hunting in a baited field.  We&#039;d find the same thing now if any of those fat comfortable old men in Congress had a pair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think as long as they don&#8217;t wield the actual authority of an officer requiring confirmation, they&#8217;re Constitutional.  In fact, I&#8217;ve long advocated that Republican executives do the same thing.  Especially if you&#8217;re a Republican, you are simply going to be trashed in the confirmation process, so lots of good people won&#8217;t take the appointments.  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d take an appointment that required confirmation.  I don&#8217;t mind being called names as long as it&#8217;s by the right people, but it really upsets my wife.  I&#8217;d go so far as to leave cabinet slots vacant and only make interim appointments.  That way I can get somebody with a track record and who knows what they&#8217;re doing, not some namby-pamby with no record that can get past the slime machine.</p>
<p>&#8216;Course, communist thug that he is, Comrade Obama is doing it as much to give some of his &#8220;oppressed&#8221; buddies a fancy salary and title just to spite the honky dogs as he is for any real expertise they might have.  What the Republicans would find if they were to try actually forcefully opposing these people is that they are not at all formidable.  The only places that unions and lefties can prosper is in places where there is no opposition.  These punks and thugs have never had any opposition in places like Chicago, SFO, and NYC.  I mean they thought they were showing power to &#8220;the man&#8221; when they shook down businesses in those places, but actually the businesses knew that they could get neither justice nor support from the Democrat government, so they just paid &#8211; or moved if it got too bad.</p>
<p>The Democrat Knowles Administration ran a lot of this same playbook, it&#8217;s a union playbook and AFSCME was calling the shots here.  Except, they only had the Executive Branch, the Republicans held both bodies of the Legislature.  One of the things they did was completely wipe out the State&#8217;s central personnel and labor relations functions. The devolved it all away to the operating departments and ran all the skilled hands off.  That way it was safe to make nice Democrat patronage hires into any job and at any pay anywhere in the government without any of those stinking qualifications and stuff getting in the way.  With no meaningful L/R, the unions didn&#8217;t need to actually negotiate and administer labor agreements.  The Administration&#8217;s labor policy for the first six years was &#8220;ask the union what it wants.&#8221;  They didn&#8217;t need to arbitrate grievances.  First there weren&#8217;t many because the union was free to intimidate supervisors, so they didn&#8217;t much supevise.  Second, they didn&#8217;t really even need to file grievances and take the case to arbitration when all they had to do was call a commissioner or the Gov&#8217;s Office and they&#8217;d get what they wanted.  Even after they got tired of the constant demands and after I came back in &#8217;99, it was all too common to have a case set to go to arbitration when suddenly a signed resolution totally against the State&#8217;s interest would come down from the Commissioner&#8217;s office.</p>
<p>Before this becomes a book; Democrats always think that they&#8217;ll never lose and election and will be in power forever, so they never think about what the other guy will do.  When we took over in &#8217;02, we were very quickly able to restore basic functionality in these functions that the Ds had tried to destroy.  But the unions in eight years had essentially forgotten how to do the hard work, not that any of them were very good at it to begin with.  Frankly, clamping down on them was like hunting in a baited field.  We&#8217;d find the same thing now if any of those fat comfortable old men in Congress had a pair.</p>
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		<title>By: Scope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that once ACORN and it&#039;s affiliates are exposed, and hopefully shut down, only then do we have a chance at even getting fair elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that once ACORN and it&#8217;s affiliates are exposed, and hopefully shut down, only then do we have a chance at even getting fair elections.</p>
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		<title>By: Scope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think that the members of Congress  still have any authority?  From your past writings about the &quot;shadow government&quot;, don&#039;t you think that Obama is doing all he can to bypass our legislative branch, which so far has not been very successful in enacting his agenda?  I don&#039;t know that the Republicans can win majorities in either the House or Senate, and wouldn&#039;t it take majorities in at lease one to overthrow the shadow government, which is accountable to only the Obaminator?  Please talk about your ideas about the Czars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think that the members of Congress  still have any authority?  From your past writings about the &#8220;shadow government&#8221;, don&#8217;t you think that Obama is doing all he can to bypass our legislative branch, which so far has not been very successful in enacting his agenda?  I don&#8217;t know that the Republicans can win majorities in either the House or Senate, and wouldn&#8217;t it take majorities in at lease one to overthrow the shadow government, which is accountable to only the Obaminator?  Please talk about your ideas about the Czars.</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Van Jones and any ACORN flunkies that get fired are nice.  We have to make the followers pay the price of being followers of these leaders.  But Comrade Obama has an almost endless supply of appratchniks and useful idiots who&#039;ll work cheap at an ACORN office.

If we are to meaningfully weaken Comrade Obama and the Democrat Politburo, we must take out members of Congress.  Rahmbo beat us into the outer darkness by out-conservativing us in Republican districts.  He took out a crop of mostly born-again Republicans who were basically gladhanders glomming on to the Republican ascendancy of the &#039;90s.  They didn&#039;t believe in anything but getting elected and being an R was the way to get elected at the time.  They became a part of the get-along, go along, bring home the bacon crowd that along with GWB&#039;s ineffectiveness left a smoking hole where the Republican Party used to be.  We need to mercilessly attack every Democrat elected since &#039;04 in a Red-leaning district.

As much fun as it is to pull Comrade Obama&#039;s tail, he can&#039;t pass legislation.  We need to first make members of Congress afraid to vote with him, then take those members out in &#039;10 and &#039;12.  Maybe by &#039;12 we&#039;ll have somebody who can meaningfully challenge Comrade Obama, but even four more years of BHO won&#039;t be unendurable if we have at least one and preferably both bodies of Congress in his second term.  We&#039;ll have to listen to him drone on endlessly, but in victory, we can be magnanimous and applaud politely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Van Jones and any ACORN flunkies that get fired are nice.  We have to make the followers pay the price of being followers of these leaders.  But Comrade Obama has an almost endless supply of appratchniks and useful idiots who&#8217;ll work cheap at an ACORN office.</p>
<p>If we are to meaningfully weaken Comrade Obama and the Democrat Politburo, we must take out members of Congress.  Rahmbo beat us into the outer darkness by out-conservativing us in Republican districts.  He took out a crop of mostly born-again Republicans who were basically gladhanders glomming on to the Republican ascendancy of the &#8217;90s.  They didn&#8217;t believe in anything but getting elected and being an R was the way to get elected at the time.  They became a part of the get-along, go along, bring home the bacon crowd that along with GWB&#8217;s ineffectiveness left a smoking hole where the Republican Party used to be.  We need to mercilessly attack every Democrat elected since &#8217;04 in a Red-leaning district.</p>
<p>As much fun as it is to pull Comrade Obama&#8217;s tail, he can&#8217;t pass legislation.  We need to first make members of Congress afraid to vote with him, then take those members out in &#8217;10 and &#8217;12.  Maybe by &#8217;12 we&#8217;ll have somebody who can meaningfully challenge Comrade Obama, but even four more years of BHO won&#8217;t be unendurable if we have at least one and preferably both bodies of Congress in his second term.  We&#8217;ll have to listen to him drone on endlessly, but in victory, we can be magnanimous and applaud politely.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Media Matters is already throwing a hissy fit.</description>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I did operate the site correctly. :-)</description>
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		<title>By: Scope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If so, I in no way implied that RS was not hitting the issue enough.  In fact, I am thrilled that Erick has exposed still another twist in the ACORN saga.  My reply was to indicate to Occamsrazor that the ACORN issue is huge, not a distraction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If so, I in no way implied that RS was not hitting the issue enough.  In fact, I am thrilled that Erick has exposed still another twist in the ACORN saga.  My reply was to indicate to Occamsrazor that the ACORN issue is huge, not a distraction.</p>
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