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	<title>Comments on: House of Representatives Votes to Take Over All Student Loans</title>
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		<title>By: surveyor</title>
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		<dc:creator>surveyor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 14:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least there&#039;s some one here that sees thruogh the OBAMA PLAN.This is just what he has been trying to push down our throuts from the get go.He has a golden toung,but you have to watch you back.Like he has said from the beggining&quot;It&#039;s who i surround myself with&quot;.Well look at that?An&#039;t that something to talk to talk about.As of al the yesterdays since he took office he has been bring this natin down.We are no longer as strong as we used to be.We have become an embaresment,our money is becoming less and less a valued commodity on any exchange as it used to be.Why we have some idiot just keeps printing it.And best of all as of late were just dropping our defences for the hell of it,nothing in return,no bargaining,no ,we wont do that because there might be some big bussiness that has us in there back pocket that can make some money.This is discusting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least there&#8217;s some one here that sees thruogh the OBAMA PLAN.This is just what he has been trying to push down our throuts from the get go.He has a golden toung,but you have to watch you back.Like he has said from the beggining&#8221;It&#8217;s who i surround myself with&#8221;.Well look at that?An&#8217;t that something to talk to talk about.As of al the yesterdays since he took office he has been bring this natin down.We are no longer as strong as we used to be.We have become an embaresment,our money is becoming less and less a valued commodity on any exchange as it used to be.Why we have some idiot just keeps printing it.And best of all as of late were just dropping our defences for the hell of it,nothing in return,no bargaining,no ,we wont do that because there might be some big bussiness that has us in there back pocket that can make some money.This is discusting!</p>
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		<title>By: GregInFla</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregInFla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>right on, right on, right on (as Rush says)</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Mullins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Mullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but sliping in a Defund ACORN part is just there as a ploy. Most Republicans saw the ploy and knew the crap that they wanted. This was a ploy to attempt to get some Republicans in on a Nationalize Student loans bill. Cheap trick. I didn&#039;t say much because I thick this should be handled on another Diary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but sliping in a Defund ACORN part is just there as a ploy. Most Republicans saw the ploy and knew the crap that they wanted. This was a ploy to attempt to get some Republicans in on a Nationalize Student loans bill. Cheap trick. I didn&#8217;t say much because I thick this should be handled on another Diary.</p>
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		<title>By: Scope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Scope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are now 75 comments concerning the Student Loan Federal Government takeover.  Every in and out has been covered, every good and bad points have been covered.  It has been discussed to death.  I guess I must be the only one who sees the passage of HR 3221, which includes defunding ACORN, as being passed by every Republican in the House, and the majority of Democrats, as a statement against ACORN, rather than a support for the Government Loan program.  Will someone please talk to the issue that it most likesly passed because of the ACORN amendment?  Please, I understand that it is critical to stop the growth of the Federal Government.  Will other ACORN affiliates take ACORNS place, for sure.  Is it a start, especially when the Senate bill stops funding for ACORN &quot;and it&#039;s affiliates.&quot;  Is it just a distrust that ACORN will ever be defunded?  Maybe it&#039;s just my wondering, maybe because it was posted by Scope, but, someone somewhere has to have an opinion on weather it was more important to pass the Student Bill as opposed to the ACORN Amendment.  Boehner talked to this issue today-  He asked that Pelosi seperate the ACORN defunding Amendment from the Student Loan Funding Bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are now 75 comments concerning the Student Loan Federal Government takeover.  Every in and out has been covered, every good and bad points have been covered.  It has been discussed to death.  I guess I must be the only one who sees the passage of HR 3221, which includes defunding ACORN, as being passed by every Republican in the House, and the majority of Democrats, as a statement against ACORN, rather than a support for the Government Loan program.  Will someone please talk to the issue that it most likesly passed because of the ACORN amendment?  Please, I understand that it is critical to stop the growth of the Federal Government.  Will other ACORN affiliates take ACORNS place, for sure.  Is it a start, especially when the Senate bill stops funding for ACORN &#8220;and it&#8217;s affiliates.&#8221;  Is it just a distrust that ACORN will ever be defunded?  Maybe it&#8217;s just my wondering, maybe because it was posted by Scope, but, someone somewhere has to have an opinion on weather it was more important to pass the Student Bill as opposed to the ACORN Amendment.  Boehner talked to this issue today-  He asked that Pelosi seperate the ACORN defunding Amendment from the Student Loan Funding Bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Leopard1996</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leopard1996</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just know on this, I went to a small liberal arts college in PA, that was considered pretty elite, for me, I got a partial football ride, and I still have loans to pay, I pay a Sallie Mae loan, and another one my parents got for me.  

I know the Sallie Mae, was like an 8,000 Dollar a year subsidized,  which I know the college started as a starting point for charging, and if some paid the whole freight on their own.  More for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just know on this, I went to a small liberal arts college in PA, that was considered pretty elite, for me, I got a partial football ride, and I still have loans to pay, I pay a Sallie Mae loan, and another one my parents got for me.  </p>
<p>I know the Sallie Mae, was like an 8,000 Dollar a year subsidized,  which I know the college started as a starting point for charging, and if some paid the whole freight on their own.  More for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But elections have consequences, sadly.</description>
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		<title>By: Leopard1996</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leopard1996</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take away the subsidization of the loans, so colleges don&#039;t start with a baseline from which they will add and add more to their costs.  Just as a simple business, if I know that I can automatically get 20,000 per person  on average selling my goods per person. I will charge 40,000. It will average out that I will make a nice profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take away the subsidization of the loans, so colleges don&#8217;t start with a baseline from which they will add and add more to their costs.  Just as a simple business, if I know that I can automatically get 20,000 per person  on average selling my goods per person. I will charge 40,000. It will average out that I will make a nice profit.</p>
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		<title>By: realskinny</title>
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		<dc:creator>realskinny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the largest sources of funding for the Democrats is the Socialist education bureaucracy.     The Dems fund college for students to give more taxpayer money to their supporters.   A percentage of this money then comes back to their campaigns.   This can be shown both in State funding for Socialist secondary schools and Federal student aid.

Over the years it can be traced.   If Federal student aid rises $500 Million, Tuition will be raised $500 Million, salaries will be increased and millions will flow to the Democrats.   The exact same thing occurs on the State level.   Republicans continue to vote to increase &quot;Education&quot; funding because they are too stupid to see they are cutting their own throats.   They also have a pathetic faith in &quot;public schools&quot;, and think socialism  works.   Possibly this is because few Republican office holders are bright enough to see that &quot;public schools&quot; ARE socialist.

While an educated populace is an advantage for a society one might give some thought to the morality of taxing the high-school educated laborer for the benefit of the college educated.   One last thought;  Someone who comes out of high-school, goes to work, invests the money that would have gone to college expenses, (books, Etc) Invests the money after 4 years that is not owed on student loans that do not have to be repaid will have lifetime earnings exceeding all but a small percentage of college graduates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the largest sources of funding for the Democrats is the Socialist education bureaucracy.     The Dems fund college for students to give more taxpayer money to their supporters.   A percentage of this money then comes back to their campaigns.   This can be shown both in State funding for Socialist secondary schools and Federal student aid.</p>
<p>Over the years it can be traced.   If Federal student aid rises $500 Million, Tuition will be raised $500 Million, salaries will be increased and millions will flow to the Democrats.   The exact same thing occurs on the State level.   Republicans continue to vote to increase &#8220;Education&#8221; funding because they are too stupid to see they are cutting their own throats.   They also have a pathetic faith in &#8220;public schools&#8221;, and think socialism  works.   Possibly this is because few Republican office holders are bright enough to see that &#8220;public schools&#8221; ARE socialist.</p>
<p>While an educated populace is an advantage for a society one might give some thought to the morality of taxing the high-school educated laborer for the benefit of the college educated.   One last thought;  Someone who comes out of high-school, goes to work, invests the money that would have gone to college expenses, (books, Etc) Invests the money after 4 years that is not owed on student loans that do not have to be repaid will have lifetime earnings exceeding all but a small percentage of college graduates.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Mullins</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/09/17/house-of-representatives-votes-to-take-over-all-student-loans/comment-page-1/#comment-33156</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Mullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t been on any college campuses since I stopped working as a courier( a good 3+ years).</description>
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		<title>By: redpens</title>
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		<dc:creator>redpens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>out there that the Democrats don&#039;t want control over. And the Republicans who voted for this travesty? Why? Just another tool of indoctrination for dear leader</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>out there that the Democrats don&#8217;t want control over. And the Republicans who voted for this travesty? Why? Just another tool of indoctrination for dear leader</p>
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		<title>By: Finrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My alma mater, Wabash College, is all-male.  I&#039;m worried that the feds are going to use this to force them to go co-ed, despite the fact that there are more all-women colleges in Indiana than there are all-male colleges in the entire country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My alma mater, Wabash College, is all-male.  I&#8217;m worried that the feds are going to use this to force them to go co-ed, despite the fact that there are more all-women colleges in Indiana than there are all-male colleges in the entire country.</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are considerably  more females than males in college these days. So, the men are the &quot;underutilized&quot; class and thus are the victims of discrimination.  Actually I think young males are discriminated against in the public schools.  They want them to be castrati and they don&#039;t take it very well, so they hound them out of school as discipline problems or drug them into submission with ritilin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are considerably  more females than males in college these days. So, the men are the &#8220;underutilized&#8221; class and thus are the victims of discrimination.  Actually I think young males are discriminated against in the public schools.  They want them to be castrati and they don&#8217;t take it very well, so they hound them out of school as discipline problems or drug them into submission with ritilin.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Mullins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Mullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stand in his way to remake this nation. Either killed off from the outside or from within.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stand in his way to remake this nation. Either killed off from the outside or from within.</p>
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		<title>By: Vannek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vannek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the Feds have control of student loan funding, they will be able to use it as a tool to force colleges to follow their agenda.  

Will the Feds and the ACLU then be able to use &quot;separation of church and state&quot; to justify not providing loans to students at religion-based colleges?  

Will the Feds then be able to dictate the racial mix of the student body?  I work in a university research program.  Students can&#039;t advance based on 
&quot;life stories&quot; and other subjective criteria.  They have to have superior math and science skills.  Most of our students are Asian or White--for whatever debatable reasons.  When the Feds control the loan program, will they tell us that all of our students&#039; loans will be denied if we don&#039;t have more Blacks, Latinos, or Purple Betelguesians in the program?  Will we be forced to accept less qualified students to meet some racial quotas?

Frightening....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the Feds have control of student loan funding, they will be able to use it as a tool to force colleges to follow their agenda.  </p>
<p>Will the Feds and the ACLU then be able to use &#8220;separation of church and state&#8221; to justify not providing loans to students at religion-based colleges?  </p>
<p>Will the Feds then be able to dictate the racial mix of the student body?  I work in a university research program.  Students can&#8217;t advance based on<br />
&#8220;life stories&#8221; and other subjective criteria.  They have to have superior math and science skills.  Most of our students are Asian or White&#8211;for whatever debatable reasons.  When the Feds control the loan program, will they tell us that all of our students&#8217; loans will be denied if we don&#8217;t have more Blacks, Latinos, or Purple Betelguesians in the program?  Will we be forced to accept less qualified students to meet some racial quotas?</p>
<p>Frightening&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Mullins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Mullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kind of like, you have too many men enrolled and you need to balance that. That not good at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kind of like, you have too many men enrolled and you need to balance that. That not good at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Mullins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Mullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for education. There are plenty of private schools here in Texas(yeah like school down the road in Houston, starts with an R and ends with an E, yeah Rice). Plenty of students go to private universities like ACU ,LCU,Baylor,Rice,WBU,Trinity,St. Mary, University of the Incarnate Word and many others. Lots of get federal money(with the big string attached). It certainly not helped, just make more monuments to me on college campuses. As for UT, they sold off some prime real estate(aka Real estate with oil). Lots of money to educate with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for education. There are plenty of private schools here in Texas(yeah like school down the road in Houston, starts with an R and ends with an E, yeah Rice). Plenty of students go to private universities like ACU ,LCU,Baylor,Rice,WBU,Trinity,St. Mary, University of the Incarnate Word and many others. Lots of get federal money(with the big string attached). It certainly not helped, just make more monuments to me on college campuses. As for UT, they sold off some prime real estate(aka Real estate with oil). Lots of money to educate with.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Mullins</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/09/17/house-of-representatives-votes-to-take-over-all-student-loans/comment-page-1/#comment-33141</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Mullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>has billboards on I-45 saying that the cost of a semester is $600. That not that bad at all. Just go and see what your tax dollars get you. Nice good education. Now its still much less expensive than a semester at a state school like UT,A&amp;M, or Texas Tech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>has billboards on I-45 saying that the cost of a semester is $600. That not that bad at all. Just go and see what your tax dollars get you. Nice good education. Now its still much less expensive than a semester at a state school like UT,A&amp;M, or Texas Tech.</p>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>izoneguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More government interference - cloked as another Trojan Donkey to help the &quot;people&quot;.</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Mullins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Mullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that have to rely on the Taxes payed by those that have property(same way with School districts[they get money from the Federal government, but the tax payers pick the rest]). We really need to tell the Federal government to &quot;Screw you and the horse rod on&quot;. Its the nicest thing I could think of. All the government has done right now is make it more expensive to educate(mandates). If we just got rid of the crap and focus on the core education, we would be much better. But that seems that to be happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that have to rely on the Taxes payed by those that have property(same way with School districts[they get money from the Federal government, but the tax payers pick the rest]). We really need to tell the Federal government to &#8220;Screw you and the horse rod on&#8221;. Its the nicest thing I could think of. All the government has done right now is make it more expensive to educate(mandates). If we just got rid of the crap and focus on the core education, we would be much better. But that seems that to be happening.</p>
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