Be sure to read this one. Apparently you can get the compelling facts of the story wrong as long as you get the “essence” of the story right. Well, you can if you are Barack Obama.
Remember the tear jerker horror story of malicious insurance companies he told last week?
President Barack Obama, seeking to make a case for health-insurance regulation, told a poignant story to a joint session of Congress last week. An Illinois man getting chemotherapy was dropped from his insurance plan when his insurer discovered an unreported gallstone the patient hadn’t known about.
“They delayed his treatment, and he died because of it,” the president said in the nationally televised address.
There’s just one problem. The story Obama told is not true.
Obama aides say the president got the essence of the story correct. Mr. Raddatz was dropped from his insurance plan weeks before a scheduled stem-cell transplant.
Except not really. Mr. Raddatz’s sister testified before Congress that Mr. Raddatz got a life saving treatment that extended his life for three years. And the insurance company covered it.
KnightsofMalta
Steve Maley
Caleb Howe
Yay truthiness!
Dan McLaughlin (Diary) Thursday, September 17th at 12:49AM EST (link)“Fake but accurate”
“No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong.” – Winston Churchill
It would be nice to do a Diary on what Obama didn't get wrong...
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Thursday, September 17th at 1:03AM EST (link)but and empty/blank Diary is NOT allowed, of course….
bits and pieces repeated (because it is worth repeating) from all over….
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Pulbic Option to Cover Illegal Aliens
JLenardDetroit Thursday, September 10th at 12:52PM EDT (link)
Following Obamas 9/9/9 (666 upside down) speech, Rush Limbaugh and others have to keep correcting the record of all the…. to be charitable we’ll say…. un-truthes as it pertains to Obamas promises and what is ACTUALLY IN the only HC Bill in Consideration (HR3200). Gary Peters, as discussed in this Diary Townhall, as basically all other Democrats’ Townhalls using the approved Talking Points covered the Illegal Aliens distortion (read: LIE) in the following manner:
Gary took it one further, and accidentally gave away specifically, the Lie on one of his Slides he showed. The Fact is that Illegal Aliens (non US Citizens, non-Residents) are mentioned several places in the Bill but the key to the Democrat Dodge is in one SUBsection of the Bill dealing with “AFFORDABILITY CREDITS” that would allow persons to receive Tax Credits for their own PRIVATE COVERAGE… which Democrats DO NOT WANT people to have… it specifically says that “Illegals shall be excluded from eligibility to receive ‘Affordability Credits’” AND THAT IS IT…. The truth is right in the statement Peters showed… it is LIMITED to dealing solely with “Affordability Credits” and Illegal Aliens WILL BE COVERED BY THE PUBLIC OPTION PLAN and excluded from all others (unless they want to pay for the plans themselves w/o the Credits).
The Facts/Truth are in the Bill and even the Democrats are showing you the truth while trying to imply it means something beyond what they just showed you and you just read….. YOU HAVE TO COMPLETELY PARSE THEIR SENTENCES TO FIND THE TRUTH!!!
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HR3200 will drive up costs (so any Public Option Trigger compromise – is Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun)…
It is just dumb for anyone to entertain any thought that LIBERALS in Govt. will ever allow Costs (and Budgets) to ever go down!!!
just as the CARS program hinted: Cash4Clunkers portends the HC fiasco in so many ways… Basic math!! all, of course, to drive us into that Public Option no matter how they achieve it… This Bill cannot be compromised with in any way shape or form — if the Liberals get this then they will just ram through the other pieces in other Legislation over the next few years.
Claire McCackle (yes, I know I spelled it wrong, that is how I pronounce her name) has been on every talkshow going on and on about how they HATE MediGap BECAUSE IT IS PRIVATE and not Govt. Control precursor to their Public Option…..
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The latest, as it relates to the Health-Care discussions:
Obama goes on about “False witness” to impugn his detractors, while his Party members continually Lie about what is in the sole plan (HR3200) in Consideration in the Congress (their distortions/lies details directly highlighted/refuted: here, here, here, and here). Further lying by claiming his own plan (Obama’s “My HC plan” Lie – Obama’s HC dodge, quoting a non-existent and/or not in consideration Plan) – he isn’t saying “His preferences are” or “HR3200 must be amended to reach these goals…” or “ANY Compromise plan must meet this criteria…” he outright Lies about a Plan no-one can read because it doesn’t exist. If it did it would be available to read from Whitehouse.gov and introduced into the House or Senate by a fellow Obamunist for Consideration – again, cannot, and will not, because it doesn’t exist!
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as outlined in emails to Congress-critters (Senate-dwellers and House-creepers):
Cross-State line portability, Tort reform, PreExisting condition exclusion elimination (not allowed in MI, enact that Nationally), post employment coverage (modifying COBRA and HSA/MSA accounts to NOT ZERO OUT each year so multi-year savings can/will PAY FOR OWN COVERAGE while between jobs), (avoiding the HR3200 consequence/fact) More Govt. regulations and paperwork will DRIVE UP not reduce costs and bring us more Lawyers and Office Administrators to deal with it NOT Doctors, etc….
It seems the majority in DC are NOT going to pay any attention to the mood of the country, as many of you in DC hadn’t regarding many other votes, but here goes…. Many Americans do indeed want Health INSURANCE Reform to improve the state of Health Care in America, BUT… there can be No Compromise with the current HR3200 boondoggle… It must be scraped and a new plan, encompassing REAL SOLUTIONS (Not just plans to shift HC to Govt. Takeover that HR3200 is) that we as Republicans have spoken of/for for years. Cross-State line portability, Tort reform, PreExisting condition exclusion elimination (not allowed in MI, enact that Nationally), post employment coverage (modifying COBRA and HSA/MSA accounts to NOT ZERO OUT each year so multi-year savings can/will PAY FOR OWN COVERAGE while between jobs), (avoiding the HR3200 consequence/fact) More Govt. regulations and paperwork will DRIVE UP not reduce costs and bring us more Lawyers and Office Administrators to deal with it NOT Doctors, etc…. The answers are there, if you’d only pay attention:
HC Townhall Lies – Townhall HC distortions/propaganda
lol)
+More Townhall Hi-jinks – More HC Townhall Hi-jinks
+Townhalls 3 – HC Townhall: Like Hollywood, Democrats used new Actors to replay the same Script.
+Townhalls 4 – HC Townhalls: Steny Hoyer (D-MD) edition.
+Public Option – sole focus on Public Option is a mistake that sets up Lib’s for another Liberal Incremental-ism step to complete HC Takeover
+Illegals exclusion – don’t fall for the “Illegals Excluded” half-truth (details here)
+No Tort Reform – Moe Lane’s Diary: Dean admits why there is No Tort Reform in ANY HC legislation
+Kennedy Bill – A Teddy Kennedy HC Bill Republicans SHOULD SPONSOR
+an aside, Kennedy seat hypocrisy – MASS looks to ex-post-facto change Law to appoint Dem. to Kennedy seat
+another aside, Obama LAST KENNEDY Bro?!?! – Chrisy Matthews declares Obama last Kennedy brother
+McCain HC – McCain HC Townhall details, another sell-out pre-declared!
+Harry/Louise – Harry & Louise want you to pay for their Head examinations?
+Gang of Sicks (er… Six) – The Senate HC “Gang Of Sicks” (formerly 7, but Hatch left and that didn’t have the fun play on words
+Clunker portends – Cash4Clunkers portends the HC fiasco in so many ways… Basic math!!
+Flag@ – Flag-whitehouse.gov is down, but are the unlawful (same old trickery) actions going on via WH:RealityCheck? AND HealthCare lies still being peddled? (hint: YES, to both)
+Obama’s “My HC plan” Lie – Obama’s HC dodge, quoting a non-existent and/or not in consideration Plan
+ultimate HC Q: – The ultimate HR3200 Q: Will Fetus’ about to be Aborted qualify for End Of Life counseling, or is that reserved only for Seniors about to be effectively Euthanized by/from Rationing?!?!
+Angry mob script – Democrats and MSM keep playing the Angry Mob script
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
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Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
Forgot 5--- Abortions
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Thursday, September 17th at 1:07AM EST (link)Democrats don’t follow the Laws they pass (Abortions, as promised to PP – WILL BE COVERED)
JLenardDetroit Wednesday, September 16th at 12:39AM EDT (link)
as if they are going to actually care what the final Laws say, they WILL be funding Abortions anyway REGARDLESS…. The LINE ITEM CHARGES that will be paid WON’T SAY: “ABORTION” THEY WILL BE “BIRTHING SERVICES” but there just won’t be any LIVE BABY DELIVERY in those “Services” ….. I mean really…. We gonna wake up from this usual “RE-Define the Terms” dodges/scams the Democrats are allowed to get away with?!?!?!
THERE CAN BE NO COMPROMISE WITH THESE PEOPLE! and these The Senate HC “Gang Of Sicks” (formerly 7, but Hatch left and that didn’t have the fun play on words
lol) are the most dangerous in DC right now!!!!
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“It’s the Policies, STUPIDS” and/or “Stupid Is, As Democrats Does”
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
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I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
Talking about lying...
kraals Thursday, September 17th at 3:32PM EST (link)So is it true that Joe the Congressman, who in his remarks after his “you lie” statement, said that he had been an immigration attorney, apparently left no evidence behind that he ever even handled one immigration case?
Trolls/Mobies got orders to flood the site again?
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Thursday, September 17th at 4:19PM EST (link)Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
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Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
So, does this mean the scenario he described NEVER happens? Sounds that way.
clowngirl (Diary) Thursday, September 17th at 1:59AM EST (link)If he would chose to lie about a case where the reality is very much the opposite of what he said. You would think with all the tough luck stories about healthcare he could find one that actually happened like he said..,.Unless, as I said. it never happens.
he speaks in parables
streiff (Diary) Thursday, September 17th at 6:01AM EST (link)you guys are forgetting who you’re dealing with here
“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”
The teleprompter lied, Obama just reads the words.
Old_Crow (Diary) Thursday, September 17th at 6:05AM EST (link)“Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm.” — James Madison
what a scumbag.
sickofitall Thursday, September 17th at 12:25PM EST (link)I’m starting to think he’s a compulsive liar. He doens’t do it because he needs to, he honestly can’t help himself.
“You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany.” – Rep. Paul Broun
CAN read the words...
kraals Thursday, September 17th at 3:35PM EST (link)So we now have a President that can actually read the words correctly off a teleprompter? That’s an improvement right there…
So you're saying...
discerningconservative (Diary) Thursday, September 17th at 3:37PM EST (link)Obama is the first President that could read? Please enlighten us, which President were you referring to?
kraals is hereby appointed as the Czar of Bizarre - the BiCzar ;-) lol (nt)
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Thursday, September 17th at 4:23PM EST (link)Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
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Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
This is such a cheap joke, but, I gotta do it
derhoosier (Diary) Thursday, September 17th at 6:25AM EST (link)“Obama lied, nobody died.”
Cheers, derhoosier
^5 - always fun when someone turns a Liberal line around on them
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Thursday, September 17th at 12:06PM EST (link)they were so much more “civil” with Bush, ‘ey??? lol
WILSON SPOKE TRUTH!
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
Follow @JLenardDetroit
(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
Don't forget about his other story
Return to Revolution (Diary) Thursday, September 17th at 6:41AM EST (link)He flat out lied in that one too. This was the Texas woman whose insurance was canceled when she needed a mastectomy because “she forgot to declare a case of acne”. In reality, the woman’s insurance was canceled because she LIED on her application about other health problems, including the skin condition which was precancerous.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203440104574409501904118682.html
Out of hand Constitutional fetishist
Curiously
Return to Revolution (Diary) Thursday, September 17th at 6:45AM EST (link)just noticed that this (Texas) story is touched on in original post toward the end. But it doesn’t give the details of why the woman’s insurance was canceled, instead saying only that Obama understated the story.
Out of hand Constitutional fetishist
Truth - sincerity in action, character and utterance.
freetexpal Thursday, September 17th at 6:47AM EST (link)“It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.” – Thomas Jefferson
“Truth will always prevail where there are pain to bring it to light.” – Patrick Henry
Everyone is entitled to his own opinions, but not his own facts. This is the first U.S. president who speaks in fairy tales and op-eds every time he opens his mouth.
Insane
aposematic Thursday, September 17th at 7:50AM EST (link)Fairy tales and other fantasies are truth. Utopia on earth is possible. Obama is creating a perpetual motion machine that will supply America’s energy for free.
Where was that padded room again?
aposematic in VA
Timothy Noah must have interned at CBS
WarEagle01 (Diary) Thursday, September 17th at 9:19AM EST (link)‘Obama speech writers appear to have been informed by erroneous media reports, including an article on Slate.com that stated, “The delay in treatment eliminated Raddatz’s chances of recovery, and he died.” Its author, Timothy Noah, said Wednesday that he wasn’t contacted by the White House and didn’t realize Mr. Raddatz hadn’t died because of the treatment delay.’
Yes, Dan Rather taught him well. Hmmm, come to think of it, maybe Ozero’s speech writers interned there as well, since they really seem to have mastered the CBS not-fact-checking technique. Although their complete lack of curiosity about what is actually going on in the world may point to some previous ABC experience .
“A wise, doughy leg with rich tingly experiences will always reach better conclusions than will a more tanned, muscular leg that hasn’t felt those thrills.” –Chris Matthews’ Leg
“The alternative to the awful extremity of abortion is the indispensable joy of introducing this flawed world to someone who might make it better.”–John Hayward (AKA Dr. Zero)
WarEagle, as long as it fits the
Warrior (Diary) Thursday, September 17th at 12:24PM EST (link)big bad insurance company narrative, who cares if it’s actually true? (Dan Rather call your office.)
Do insurance companies seem like big, heartless, money-grubbing, penny-pinching behemoths? They do to me too.
However, as always, the reason they have become so apparently discompassionate and parsimonious is, you guessed it, gubmint interference in the healthcare system.
Hospitals MUST care for homeless and uninsured (illegals) by law. Since hospitals are not banks, how do they actually PAY for this warm slice of Utopia? By shifting the costs to those who have provided for their own care, usually in the form of HEALTH INSURANCE (sorry for all the capitals.) Ever wonder why aspirins cost five dollars each?
Same thing with physicians. Medicare and Medicaid do not reimburse doctors for their costs, so, guess where the difference is made up? If you said sticking it to insurance companies, go to the head of the class.
And when gubmint requires companies to cover all kinds of exotic (and expensive) conditions, who pays? Again, dear reader, you do, in the form of higher premiums, strict regulations, slow insurance pay-offs, etc, etc, etc.
So, in order to survive, insurance companies have had to become seemingly heartless “no” machines. Just another example of how the leftie/liberal view of the world is based on childish emotionality and feel-good fantasies about how everything should always work perfectly and w/o the restraints of human nature involved.
When oh when will Americans wake the h**l up and realize that it’s not going to happen on this earth anytime soon?
And you can plug any stupid liberal idea into the formula and get the same result: everybody cannot go to college; everybody cannot own a home; everybody cannot make $100 per hour minimum; everybody cannot own a new car, everybody cannot, well, you get the idea…
“Racial criteria are irrational, irrelevant, [and] odious to our way of life.” — Thurgood Marshall for the NAACP Legal Defense Fund in the 1950 Supreme Court case of McLaurin v. Oklahoma
Had this been Bush
theBlur (Diary) Thursday, September 17th at 3:28PM EST (link)Terrific screams of “lies” would have emanated from the left. Instead, you get . . .
A “gotcha.” Hmmm.
Public Penalties For Lies
greggoulas Thursday, September 17th at 11:14PM EST (link)Perhaps “We The People” should deduct one day of service and pay for each and every lie we catch our President and Politicians in. That will include the golden parachute retirement plan they have also, very unlike the maybe $1,200/Mo that we receive after working our entire lives for. Let me put the political lies in a different prospective for all of you;
An old man passes away and makes it through the pearly gates of Heaven and sees St. Peter. Behind St Peter are millions of clocks hanging on the big wall behind him. The old man asked out of curiosity, “What are all those clocks on the wall for”? St. Peter proceeds to tell him that everyone on earth has a clock of their own and that each time they tell a lie, a second ticks off their clock. OK the old man said as he understood. St. Peter said, do you see that clock in the upper right hand corner… It belongs to the Pope and there are 5 seconds ticked off of it. The one next to it belonged to the Reverend Billy Graham and there are 10 seconds ticked off of it. As the old man was a “Yellow Dog Democrat” from the bible belt of Texas he was curious to see his President Obama’s clock….So he proceeded to ask where on the wall was the Presidents clock? St. Peter told him that it was no longer on that wall and that they had moved it down to the basement where they now used it as a ceiling fan!
Now see, you don’t have to make everything sooo political and can still get your point across when it comes to the truths our politicians tell us or don’t tell us. At this rate, Hell will be air conditioned by the time this President, House and Senate go on to their eternal life.
Ahh, yes, the Obama vetters show their competency again
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Friday, September 18th at 1:30AM EST (link)If you can’t get a cherry-picked example for a joint session of congress correct, how are you going to fare in taking over 1/6th of the US economy?