and challenged Obama, point for point.

Joe Wilson! I may move to SC to vote for the guy!

If he had shouted it out at President George Bush when he was knowing lying the country into a war.

Right act, just six years too late.

through all of it actually – and a lot of folks aren’t going to go through the trouble to fact check afterwards.

I understand that you respect the office not the person but….

well…

for starters he’s acting like a dictator not a President. He wasn’t even bothering to debate his opponents points – just flatly AND UNTRUTHFULLY called them liars.

Has any President in the history of our country EVER tried to deceive the American people so blatantly and to such an extremity?

Can we count on the media to do their jobs and report all his lies?? That’s a negative. Somebody had to do it.

Any examples? I mean my memory is faulty, but I don’t remember him acting like that. Blaming all of the problems on the other side. Using problems the other side did cause not related to his agenda to advance his agenda.

Thanks.

I saw everything all of you saw and I even shouted liar among others things to my TV several times. And yes George Bush endured much worse disrespect. However I would never scream “liar” to the President of the United States while he/she is addressing Congress … especially from a Member of Congress. Joe Wilson could have waited until the speech was over and then screamed liar to every reporter he could find and that would be perfectly fine. Obama shames and tarnishes his office with just about ever utterance but that does not mean we have to.

I guess I just want us to have higher standards than your average member of Code Pink. IIn these instance, I like to ask myself, WWRRD. What would Ronadl Reagan do?

Hey, if eternal happiness depends on having beer, Heaven will have lots of it!

gives the POTUS and Congress the right to take property by government fiat away from auto dealers who have owned their property for generations; or the part of the Constitution that authorizes them to nationalize our health care system.

That should do for starters.

Well, inasmuch as the Democrats themselves have now declared health care/insurance a “Right”; I think, by their own politicking, all health legislation should now fall under the scope of the 10th Amendment and hence be beyond Congresses Constitutional authority entirely.

Secondly, we have a right to life and liberty guaranteed under the Preamble, “[to] secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity…”. Any Federal action which might abrogate that for any reason, even the “common good” (whatever that means to you), is thus unconstitutional.

… And by the way, the stale counter argument about insurance companies doing the same thing now may sure sounds good on paper, but insurance companies can’t tax or jail us; in fact, today we can fire them without a single gun (a nice letter will usually suffice).

Any “reform” at all which eliminates your ability to choose your own health/health insurance plans is ultimately an Unconstitutional power grab (since, even if there is no public option, Congress has taken the power to dictate terms of health plans and will fine you for failing to buy the precise insurance it wants you to have).

Missed that exchange. I thought they were holding hands and got caught by the camera….

…because just shouting out like that in that setting was not only indecorous but also impolitic. Now, Wilson’s given Obama, his mouthpiece Gibbs, Prancy Nancy Pelosi, Rabid Harry Reid and any and all other Dems who want to appear superior and “civil” an example to point to about how “uncivil” and “unhelpful” the Repubs are. Plus, they can use it as a distraction from what we all should really be keeping our focus on — which is what the Dems are SAYING versus what they’re DOING.

BUT, Wilson should have made it one of those “nonapology” apologies, you know, like DHS Secy Napolitano did when she called our vets and anyone else who disagrees with Obama “right-wing domestic terrorists” and then later said she was sorry if WE took it the wrong way. That’s not really an apology. An apology would have been: I did or said something stupid and I’m sorry I did that.

SO, Wilson should have simply issued a press statement saying he regrets his passion for the truth caused him to blurt out that the president was lying in that setting and at that time, and he’s sorry if the president was offended, and just let it go at that. No more apology, no more “explanation,” no more anything. End of story.

I’ll check him out.

I just checked on the FEC website, and Bennett has more debt than CoH. All of Shurtleff’s money was from individuals, except for less than $100. He started at the end of the quarter too, and raised over 100k

other than Shurtleff? I live in PA but will throw what financial support I can to any real small government conservative.

Utah family so probably feels bullet proof, why else would he have also voted for cloture on Cass Sunstein today? (along with Hatch)… WHAT has happened to Utah’s senators.

Only for saying it.

beat me to it. That was the best part of the speech.

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by this president, his administration, his czars, and his flunkies.

Tough crap for Obama. He should not have called a joint session just to give a fracking campaign speech. It is not the job of an elected Congressman to sit there and get berated and lied about by the president. Very, very bad form, and anything goes.

Had he waited before or after, “YOU LIE! would not be the headline on Drudge right now and millions of people would not be examining Obama’s truthiness as closely as they are and will be. “Fail” and “liar” are powerful in that they are significantly more base than “socialist” or “radical” and therefore significantly more effective than any GOP ‘response’ (yawn).

this it is so “rich”…the fun has not even started.
wait until tomorrow….

n/t

39% oppose BHO’s health care plan.
37% support it.
24% don’t know. (Gallup)

That 24%–mostly independents–hold the balance. I suspect Obama did well with them.. I *guarantee* that Joe Wilson turned them off.

At some point, someone even will delve to see if the president lied or told the truth. Whether that is the MSM or some blogger in pajamas no longer matters.

Just drawing more attention. (There’s no such thing as bad publicity.)

and for that, why should he apologize. It’s telling the truth anyways. Personally, we should all have the courage to tell the truth when we a lie happening.

might have been to apologize to the Congress and the American people for a lack of decorum, but not back down from the statement that Obama is a liar. And to demand that the President stop lying, and list all the instances where he is lying (funding for abortions, rationing, health care for illegals, death panels, etc.). And, as long as the subject of “civility” has come up, to call on the President to stop his most uncivil, malicious prosecution of people from the Bush administration who did a thankless job for eight years to keep this country safe. And to stop hiring people in his administration who engage in uncivil, malicious attacks on the integrity of GWB, like Van Jones. And stop his most uncivil yucking it up when comedians make hateful jokes about Dick Cheney. And stop his own telling of uncivil, tasteless jokes about Dick Cheney at White House correspondents dinners. And stop hanging out with people who engaged in the most uncivil practice of blowing up buildings in the 1960s. And to stop the most uncivil practice of placing babies who survive late term abortions on shelves in hospital closets to die. And to stop telling his supporters to engage in the most uncivil practice of “getting in the face” of people who disagree with him. And to stop the most uncivil practice of trashing ordinary Americans for clinging to their “guns and religion.” And to stop his most uncivil practice of attending a church run by a racist, anti-American lunatic, and most uncivilly choosing this man to be his spiritual adviser.

Or something kind of along those lines.

Any appology for telling the truth about a pathologic liar like Obama should be done by the MSM since they have yet to tell the truth about Obama.

Should members of congress yell out “liar” to a president who is telling lies? Yes, I think they should. When they are lying. Obama was lying.

Later, after yelling “Liar!” to a lying president just after he uttered a lie, the shouter “apologizes” thusly: “This evening I let my emotions get the best of me. While I disagree with the president’s statement, my comments were inappropriate and regrettable. I extend sincere apologies to the president for this lack of civility.”

My emotions got the best of me. Understandable.

I disagree with the president’s statement. True.

I guess I shouldn’t have said what I said under the circumstances. I could have said it after the address rather than during it on live national television.

So I was uncivil and I apologize. Whoop dee do.

The main thing is that on live national television millions of Americans got to hear someone, finally, call an inveterate liar a liar.

Now if we could only get more people to do the same.

Thank you.

ColdWarrior

of course he does…as much as McCain does when he’s in front of the SCOTUS defending McCain Fiengold today!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in Washington—Fred Thompson

Obviously we would prefer McCain over NObama, and any real conservative over McCain.

The problem with compromisers is that a compromise with evil is still an evil act. It is similar to the cliched “lesser of two evils” choice: morally you cannot choose the lesser of two evils…because it is still evil!

On Wilson’s apology: you knew it had to happen, but I would have preferred:

“I apologize for my lack of decorum, and I await Mr. Obama’s apology for all the lies he told last night.”