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	<title>Comments on: Keith Olbermann is Television&#8217;s Norman Bates</title>
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		<title>By: redneck_hippie</title>
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		<dc:creator>redneck_hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and I swear I was just thinking that the dirtier the fight gets (speaking here of the specific wars on Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Palin) the more urgent it is for our side to duplicate the success of all of these folks, Malkin, Levin, etc etc etc.

We need more of these types of media patriots, rebels or whatever you will. Then, I thought, in past decades, there were people who took the Reagan path and went from radio/tv to politics. Now that Limbaugh has set the pattern, these folks may also stay in the alternative media and destroy the lamestream directly.  All good news for us. As Rush has always said, he does not need to be elected and can do much more in the fight where he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and I swear I was just thinking that the dirtier the fight gets (speaking here of the specific wars on Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Palin) the more urgent it is for our side to duplicate the success of all of these folks, Malkin, Levin, etc etc etc.</p>
<p>We need more of these types of media patriots, rebels or whatever you will. Then, I thought, in past decades, there were people who took the Reagan path and went from radio/tv to politics. Now that Limbaugh has set the pattern, these folks may also stay in the alternative media and destroy the lamestream directly.  All good news for us. As Rush has always said, he does not need to be elected and can do much more in the fight where he is.</p>
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		<title>By: Swamp_Yankee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swamp_Yankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh man, Odorman&#039;s head is going to explode</description>
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		<title>By: itsallverbatim</title>
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		<dc:creator>itsallverbatim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Task_Force_145

Some go by colors, others by three random numbers.</description>
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<p>Some go by colors, others by three random numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: OccamsRazor</title>
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		<dc:creator>OccamsRazor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 08:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How happy these pissants were, who followed koskids, who posted this sign upon Orellieys yard. This piss-ant actually had pictures of ORielly coming out into his front yard, a normal American like the rest of us. Orellielly  simply remove the defamatory sign, collected his paper and went inside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How happy these pissants were, who followed koskids, who posted this sign upon Orellieys yard. This piss-ant actually had pictures of ORielly coming out into his front yard, a normal American like the rest of us. Orellielly  simply remove the defamatory sign, collected his paper and went inside.</p>
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		<title>By: spainishirish</title>
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		<dc:creator>spainishirish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Olbermann has zero credibility, which is why his appeal doesn&#039;t transcend his role as moonbat cheerleader at DK or HuffPo. Beck is lucky in his enemies. 

When you write:

&quot;I thought if I could just make them see they would care. The truth was they saw it and still didn’t care. 

&quot;Trouble with Beck is this. He’ll end up his own worst enemy, while being right all along. That is because every person out there knows this type of personality, and they all know, or think they know, sooner or later that personality will go off the deep end. It’s like watching a man walk the edge of a building’s roof, worrying he might slip at any moment, it’s tiring...&quot;

I think you make two big mistakes. 

The first is the projection of your experience onto Beck. The truth is many cared when Beck exposed a rank communist and psychopath--but I repeat myself--in the Obama cabinet.  Those who not only see but don&#039;t care are those like Olbermann, and they really don&#039;t matter in the scheme of things in the post-MSM world. As you point out, their instinct is to silence rather than to respond. Beck just got very, very, very hard to silence and the number of people who care about what he has to say has skyrocketed now.

Closely related to the previous point is that people have stopped waiting for Beck to slip and have started to see who he will make fall next. Make no mistake, and I&#039;m no rabid watcher or fan, he&#039;s obviously loaded for bear. I would be much more worried about my next gig if I were Olbermann. If I were Beck, not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Olbermann has zero credibility, which is why his appeal doesn&#8217;t transcend his role as moonbat cheerleader at DK or HuffPo. Beck is lucky in his enemies. </p>
<p>When you write:</p>
<p>&#8220;I thought if I could just make them see they would care. The truth was they saw it and still didn’t care. </p>
<p>&#8220;Trouble with Beck is this. He’ll end up his own worst enemy, while being right all along. That is because every person out there knows this type of personality, and they all know, or think they know, sooner or later that personality will go off the deep end. It’s like watching a man walk the edge of a building’s roof, worrying he might slip at any moment, it’s tiring&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you make two big mistakes. </p>
<p>The first is the projection of your experience onto Beck. The truth is many cared when Beck exposed a rank communist and psychopath&#8211;but I repeat myself&#8211;in the Obama cabinet.  Those who not only see but don&#8217;t care are those like Olbermann, and they really don&#8217;t matter in the scheme of things in the post-MSM world. As you point out, their instinct is to silence rather than to respond. Beck just got very, very, very hard to silence and the number of people who care about what he has to say has skyrocketed now.</p>
<p>Closely related to the previous point is that people have stopped waiting for Beck to slip and have started to see who he will make fall next. Make no mistake, and I&#8217;m no rabid watcher or fan, he&#8217;s obviously loaded for bear. I would be much more worried about my next gig if I were Olbermann. If I were Beck, not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: pumawood</title>
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		<dc:creator>pumawood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This clown on msnbc gives me a laugh for the 1 or 2 minutes i change channels from FOXNEWS.I can&#039;t do it anymore,he&#039;s too pathetic,sad man,hard to even call him a man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This clown on msnbc gives me a laugh for the 1 or 2 minutes i change channels from FOXNEWS.I can&#8217;t do it anymore,he&#8217;s too pathetic,sad man,hard to even call him a man.</p>
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		<title>By: conservdeb</title>
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		<dc:creator>conservdeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s make him the story??

Let&#039;s not - he is not important.

And we have lots of other, bigger fish to FRY!</description>
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<p>Let&#8217;s not &#8211; he is not important.</p>
<p>And we have lots of other, bigger fish to FRY!</p>
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		<title>By: wildirishmeg</title>
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		<dc:creator>wildirishmeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith, you are a sad, sad man.  You aren&#039;t worthy to scrape the gum off the bottom of Glenn&#039;s shoes, and you know it.  Keep up the self-deluded &quot;my ratings are higher than your ratings&quot; lunacy... Maybe someday you&#039;ll convince someone else that the facts are less pertinent than your own self-aggrandizement.  
Best wishes in crazy Keith-ville!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith, you are a sad, sad man.  You aren&#8217;t worthy to scrape the gum off the bottom of Glenn&#8217;s shoes, and you know it.  Keep up the self-deluded &#8220;my ratings are higher than your ratings&#8221; lunacy&#8230; Maybe someday you&#8217;ll convince someone else that the facts are less pertinent than your own self-aggrandizement.<br />
Best wishes in crazy Keith-ville!</p>
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		<title>By: Banjo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Banjo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The man has built his career on getting far bigger names to notice him. They put him in his place, but the damage has already been done: they&#039;ve drawn attention to him he would not otherwise receive apart from the loony left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The man has built his career on getting far bigger names to notice him. They put him in his place, but the damage has already been done: they&#8217;ve drawn attention to him he would not otherwise receive apart from the loony left.</p>
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		<title>By: boxer1017</title>
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		<dc:creator>boxer1017</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I applaud Glenn for speaking the truth! Olbermann&#039;s ratings are in the tank and they deserve to be in the toilet. The truth shall always set you free!!!! Go FOX!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I applaud Glenn for speaking the truth! Olbermann&#8217;s ratings are in the tank and they deserve to be in the toilet. The truth shall always set you free!!!! Go FOX!</p>
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		<title>By: avgamerican</title>
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		<dc:creator>avgamerican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s make Keith Olbermann the story.</description>
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		<title>By: wolfster38</title>
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		<dc:creator>wolfster38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure the six or seven people who watch keith overbite will find all the dirt on Mr.Beck.  I want to help you Mr. overbite, so :  Glenn is a spy from the future sent to earth to ruin you and your so called network!  I&#039;m very suprized you didn&#039;t know this. Maybe your tin foil hat needs a tuneup!  I do have one question: Didn&#039;t rachal madcow play that guy POTSY on happy days ?

Potsy and overbite sitting in a tree wish they were Beck, wee wee wee!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure the six or seven people who watch keith overbite will find all the dirt on Mr.Beck.  I want to help you Mr. overbite, so :  Glenn is a spy from the future sent to earth to ruin you and your so called network!  I&#8217;m very suprized you didn&#8217;t know this. Maybe your tin foil hat needs a tuneup!  I do have one question: Didn&#8217;t rachal madcow play that guy POTSY on happy days ?</p>
<p>Potsy and overbite sitting in a tree wish they were Beck, wee wee wee!</p>
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		<title>By: jackhammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>jackhammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 09:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone live near markos....I had seen his posts about what minivan to buy, and then his post that he would be putting off that purchase until the economy picked up....my bet...he bought himself a Mercedes R Class or soemthign liek taht, but wants to cover it so his readers don&#039;t take out their class hatred jealousy on him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone live near markos&#8230;.I had seen his posts about what minivan to buy, and then his post that he would be putting off that purchase until the economy picked up&#8230;.my bet&#8230;he bought himself a Mercedes R Class or soemthign liek taht, but wants to cover it so his readers don&#8217;t take out their class hatred jealousy on him.</p>
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		<title>By: OccamsRazor</title>
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		<dc:creator>OccamsRazor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 05:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s amusing to me is while the koskids go after Beck&#039;s advertisers, markos makes a damn good dime off of his site. 

  After surfin&#039; there for years prior to here, I know for a fact that&#039;s what he enjoys most.

  I also submit that, if it came down to it, Erickson would run RedState.com out of his own pocket, whereas markos would not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s amusing to me is while the koskids go after Beck&#8217;s advertisers, markos makes a damn good dime off of his site. </p>
<p>  After surfin&#8217; there for years prior to here, I know for a fact that&#8217;s what he enjoys most.</p>
<p>  I also submit that, if it came down to it, Erickson would run RedState.com out of his own pocket, whereas markos would not.</p>
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		<title>By: blooch</title>
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		<dc:creator>blooch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 05:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maaaajor heads-up here:

Glenn Beck was the ghostwriter of  &quot;The Pet goat&quot; which was the true name of the story which Bush was reading to those kids on 9/11.  Beck&#039;s fingrprints are all over the popular myth that Bush was reading a book called &quot;My Pet Goat&quot;.  In fact, the story Bush was reading  was but one of many in a collection.  

Why is this important?  Well, Before the students start reading the story, the teacher states, &quot;Open your book up to Lesson 60 on page 153.&quot;  Now, if the teacher had merely said; &quot;Open your books to page 153&quot;,  we would have only one point of data, &quot;153&quot;, on which to fix and rotate aimlessly. But the  teacher, unknown to her--but not to author Glenn beck--gave us that critical second point, &quot;60&quot;.  As anyone who has taken basic geometry knows. the connection of two points is a line...and that line points straight to this:

60 is the number of degrees in each angle of an equilateral triangle...and a pyramid has triangular sides!  Now here is the really mind-blowing part: 
 
Each side of the pyramid at the Louvre is covered by 153 losanges and 18 triangles, meaning the value of 324 triangles---IF 1 losange qualizes 2 triangles. For the four faces, that makes 324 x 4 = 1296 triangles. However, 1296 is the square of 36. 

Numerologists have made a surprising observation: 1296 is exactly the number of years that the French Monarchy lasted, from the Baptism of Clovis in 496 to the establishment of the Republic in 1792: 

The kicker?

1792 - 496 = 1296

Feel free to run with it.  It&#039;s an honor to do your legwork, Keith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maaaajor heads-up here:</p>
<p>Glenn Beck was the ghostwriter of  &#8220;The Pet goat&#8221; which was the true name of the story which Bush was reading to those kids on 9/11.  Beck&#8217;s fingrprints are all over the popular myth that Bush was reading a book called &#8220;My Pet Goat&#8221;.  In fact, the story Bush was reading  was but one of many in a collection.  </p>
<p>Why is this important?  Well, Before the students start reading the story, the teacher states, &#8220;Open your book up to Lesson 60 on page 153.&#8221;  Now, if the teacher had merely said; &#8220;Open your books to page 153&#8243;,  we would have only one point of data, &#8220;153&#8243;, on which to fix and rotate aimlessly. But the  teacher, unknown to her&#8211;but not to author Glenn beck&#8211;gave us that critical second point, &#8220;60&#8243;.  As anyone who has taken basic geometry knows. the connection of two points is a line&#8230;and that line points straight to this:</p>
<p>60 is the number of degrees in each angle of an equilateral triangle&#8230;and a pyramid has triangular sides!  Now here is the really mind-blowing part: </p>
<p>Each side of the pyramid at the Louvre is covered by 153 losanges and 18 triangles, meaning the value of 324 triangles&#8212;IF 1 losange qualizes 2 triangles. For the four faces, that makes 324 x 4 = 1296 triangles. However, 1296 is the square of 36. </p>
<p>Numerologists have made a surprising observation: 1296 is exactly the number of years that the French Monarchy lasted, from the Baptism of Clovis in 496 to the establishment of the Republic in 1792: </p>
<p>The kicker?</p>
<p>1792 &#8211; 496 = 1296</p>
<p>Feel free to run with it.  It&#8217;s an honor to do your legwork, Keith.</p>
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		<title>By: archer52</title>
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		<dc:creator>archer52</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 04:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jaded by Politics and goldenpres both have taken the position I am somehow;

1. attacking Beck
2. A pseudo-intellectual

I am neither. I am a veteran police detective just retired who has dealt with thousands upon thousands of people; victims, suspects and witnesses. Through it all, I have found one rule applies- People are people.  They have certain tendencies, certain quirks, and certain behaviors.  It is just what it is.  In my job it was my responsibility to be able to read them, in order to find justice and sometimes just stay alive.  I didn&#039;t get a degree, nor had a pin-headed professor teach me anything. But I still learned what I learned.  Since I&#039;m still here, I must have figured something out. 

JadedbyPolitics says he had no clue that the communists/socialists were so ingrained in our society.  He is joined by millions of decent citizens all across the country who look for the best in others.  Is Beck doing a yeoman&#039;s work? Absolutely and will go down in recent history as one of the people who did make a difference.  

But, he was not the first to know about them, just the latest who has found a voice.  Also, the environment is markedly different than thirty years ago, a lot of that change as the end result of the progressive effort.  These people aren&#039;t stupid nor impatient.  They have been working in this direction for years. 

I&#039;ve said this before, Obama is the linchpin.  He has come along at a time when we were thought to be ripe for massive change.  A perfect candidate in a critical moment.  Or so the progressive thought.  But they may have underestimated the strength of character still within the country.  We&#039;ll see how long all of us can keep up the effort.  People tire, people become unfocused, and I think that is part of Beck&#039;s worry. 

As for  goldenpres, 

I have two things to say, 

1. Before you judge whether or not I&#039;m on board, visit my novel&#039;s website and read up.  www.revoltthebook.com.   You&#039;ll see I saw this coming twelve years ago when I penned the original manuscript.  We&#039;ve been at war with the progressive for decades, we just didn&#039;t see it until now, because now they have decided to pull the pin and toss a grenade over the wall. 

2. I think you miss my point here.  I&#039;m not critical of Beck, who I watch every day, often with tears of laughter as he pokes holes in the left&#039;s way of thinking, because I don&#039;t like him. It is the exact opposite, I want him to last. This is a marathon, not a sprint.  When I say I know people like him, I am saying I can be like him, especially when I was younger.  As can anyone who is passionate about something.  The difference is as I got older I gained a better handle on how I approached the passionate subjects.  

I also work real hard to apply common sense to my life.  It helped me make the right choices many times and solved a great number of conflicts. I learned how to apply it in the real world, not in the passionate &quot;it should be this way&quot; world. 

You don&#039;t think Beck needs someone to pull him aside and say, &quot;Brother take a breath before you explode.&quot;?  I&#039;ll bet money his wife does, as do his friends (or they aren&#039;t very good friends).  You have friends or co-workers like him.  He&#039;s not a saint or a god, or any different than you or I.  Everybody needs a steadying hand.  I&#039;m sure at some point your grabbed somebody&#039;s elbow and said, &quot;I wouldn&#039;t do that if I were you.&quot; and managed to save them from a bad situation.  In essence that is what I was trying to get across. 

If I am guilty of anything, it is that I&#039;m a worrier.  Remember, we in our small non-public lives, can screw up repeatedly and nothing will happen.  Beck on the other hand, is under a microscope.  He makes a mistake, the left, the MSM, and the rest will jump all over it.  They will pound him with it trying to persuade not his fans, which are loyal, but the middle ground who don&#039;t know who he is and he is trying to get to.  If that is the case, why shoot yourself in the foot?  Why give them ammo?  

Beck is in a TRE (target rich environment).  He has plenty of people, policies and actions he can attack successfully, and not give one bullet to the other side for retaliation.  However, as I said, and stand by, his side street detour into the world of symbols on paintings and sculptures was an error. Not that he was wrong, but because, in the real world he lives in he comes across as stepping out too far.  Too many people who don&#039;t really know what he is doing (and believe me I&#039;ve actually run into people who have never heard of him) will dismiss him because of it.  Remember, we live in the world of UFO&#039;s and Da Vinci Codes, and conspiracy novels.  It just is the way it is, and people make judgments based on these things.  The worse thing Beck can have happen is being successfully lumped into that group. 

As for him being insane.  He&#039; s crazy like a fox.  But he is also in rarefied air.  Don&#039;t think a single statement or a small series of statements won&#039;t harm him?  Ask Imus, Jimmy the Greek (if you remember him), and others who said a harmless word or statement and were ruined.    

As for ferreting out communists etc.  We never finished the job because it can&#039;t be done. Not in the type of society we have. Our strength is our weakness and those who want to destroy the nation will use it against us.   

As for being &quot;chic&quot; to be communists, the history has been written that yes, many &quot;joined the movement&quot; to be included in something radical.  Not that they really understood the evil it held.  I&#039;ve known them, and by and large, they have long ago toss aside any notion of communism.  David Horowitz is an example of this.

You are right, others, the serious heavy hitters, the true believers are devious and dangerous.  But they don&#039;t design paintings and sculptures.  They design laws and rules and regulations, and curriculum for your kid&#039;s schools.  They join eco-groups and the Catholic church, because they know that is one of many ways to influence society without being exposed.  The last thing they would do, until they were ready, is operate in the open or draw attention to themselves.  They learned from their past mistakes as you pointed out in your response.  

Would Van Jones been tossed if Beck hadn&#039;t spent time on sculptures and paintings?  Yes.  Beck had him right where he wanted him, without the side trip.  (Notice Olbermann seized on the paintings, not on the Van Jones facts) Is it important to understand how long the progressives have been with us?  Yes, and I learned a great deal from Beck&#039;s reporting.  I didn&#039;t even understand all of it myself, even though I&#039;ve been watching closely for many years.  And for people like JadedByPolitics it is very important to gain perspective because that is the first thing lost when you find yourself caught in a revolution. 

I understand why you feel I may have cheapened Beck&#039;s efforts, but you have it wrong.  Beck must not cheapen Beck&#039;s efforts.  He has to choose his targets, get the facts right (which he has) and keep focused.  Whether he needs my help isn&#039;t important here. The original article was about Olbermann&#039;s reaction.  

Finally, as you think I don&#039;t know what I&#039;m talking about, I spent a long time inside the world where bullets pierce flesh, I have made many good friends who have stood in that desert a half a world away.  I even have one on his way back now  and I inquired if he was interested in doing some personal security work for Beck months ago, before I heard Beck mention that he had already taken care of it.  
 
So no, I don&#039;t take this lightly.    Here&#039;s the latest post on my site dealing with this very subject.

http://truthandcommonsense.com/2009/09/06/the-far-left-is-getting-the-message-obama-might-just-be-screwing-them/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaded by Politics and goldenpres both have taken the position I am somehow;</p>
<p>1. attacking Beck<br />
2. A pseudo-intellectual</p>
<p>I am neither. I am a veteran police detective just retired who has dealt with thousands upon thousands of people; victims, suspects and witnesses. Through it all, I have found one rule applies- People are people.  They have certain tendencies, certain quirks, and certain behaviors.  It is just what it is.  In my job it was my responsibility to be able to read them, in order to find justice and sometimes just stay alive.  I didn&#8217;t get a degree, nor had a pin-headed professor teach me anything. But I still learned what I learned.  Since I&#8217;m still here, I must have figured something out. </p>
<p>JadedbyPolitics says he had no clue that the communists/socialists were so ingrained in our society.  He is joined by millions of decent citizens all across the country who look for the best in others.  Is Beck doing a yeoman&#8217;s work? Absolutely and will go down in recent history as one of the people who did make a difference.  </p>
<p>But, he was not the first to know about them, just the latest who has found a voice.  Also, the environment is markedly different than thirty years ago, a lot of that change as the end result of the progressive effort.  These people aren&#8217;t stupid nor impatient.  They have been working in this direction for years. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said this before, Obama is the linchpin.  He has come along at a time when we were thought to be ripe for massive change.  A perfect candidate in a critical moment.  Or so the progressive thought.  But they may have underestimated the strength of character still within the country.  We&#8217;ll see how long all of us can keep up the effort.  People tire, people become unfocused, and I think that is part of Beck&#8217;s worry. </p>
<p>As for  goldenpres, </p>
<p>I have two things to say, </p>
<p>1. Before you judge whether or not I&#8217;m on board, visit my novel&#8217;s website and read up.  www.revoltthebook.com.   You&#8217;ll see I saw this coming twelve years ago when I penned the original manuscript.  We&#8217;ve been at war with the progressive for decades, we just didn&#8217;t see it until now, because now they have decided to pull the pin and toss a grenade over the wall. </p>
<p>2. I think you miss my point here.  I&#8217;m not critical of Beck, who I watch every day, often with tears of laughter as he pokes holes in the left&#8217;s way of thinking, because I don&#8217;t like him. It is the exact opposite, I want him to last. This is a marathon, not a sprint.  When I say I know people like him, I am saying I can be like him, especially when I was younger.  As can anyone who is passionate about something.  The difference is as I got older I gained a better handle on how I approached the passionate subjects.  </p>
<p>I also work real hard to apply common sense to my life.  It helped me make the right choices many times and solved a great number of conflicts. I learned how to apply it in the real world, not in the passionate &#8220;it should be this way&#8221; world. </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t think Beck needs someone to pull him aside and say, &#8220;Brother take a breath before you explode.&#8221;?  I&#8217;ll bet money his wife does, as do his friends (or they aren&#8217;t very good friends).  You have friends or co-workers like him.  He&#8217;s not a saint or a god, or any different than you or I.  Everybody needs a steadying hand.  I&#8217;m sure at some point your grabbed somebody&#8217;s elbow and said, &#8220;I wouldn&#8217;t do that if I were you.&#8221; and managed to save them from a bad situation.  In essence that is what I was trying to get across. </p>
<p>If I am guilty of anything, it is that I&#8217;m a worrier.  Remember, we in our small non-public lives, can screw up repeatedly and nothing will happen.  Beck on the other hand, is under a microscope.  He makes a mistake, the left, the MSM, and the rest will jump all over it.  They will pound him with it trying to persuade not his fans, which are loyal, but the middle ground who don&#8217;t know who he is and he is trying to get to.  If that is the case, why shoot yourself in the foot?  Why give them ammo?  </p>
<p>Beck is in a TRE (target rich environment).  He has plenty of people, policies and actions he can attack successfully, and not give one bullet to the other side for retaliation.  However, as I said, and stand by, his side street detour into the world of symbols on paintings and sculptures was an error. Not that he was wrong, but because, in the real world he lives in he comes across as stepping out too far.  Too many people who don&#8217;t really know what he is doing (and believe me I&#8217;ve actually run into people who have never heard of him) will dismiss him because of it.  Remember, we live in the world of UFO&#8217;s and Da Vinci Codes, and conspiracy novels.  It just is the way it is, and people make judgments based on these things.  The worse thing Beck can have happen is being successfully lumped into that group. </p>
<p>As for him being insane.  He&#8217; s crazy like a fox.  But he is also in rarefied air.  Don&#8217;t think a single statement or a small series of statements won&#8217;t harm him?  Ask Imus, Jimmy the Greek (if you remember him), and others who said a harmless word or statement and were ruined.    </p>
<p>As for ferreting out communists etc.  We never finished the job because it can&#8217;t be done. Not in the type of society we have. Our strength is our weakness and those who want to destroy the nation will use it against us.   </p>
<p>As for being &#8220;chic&#8221; to be communists, the history has been written that yes, many &#8220;joined the movement&#8221; to be included in something radical.  Not that they really understood the evil it held.  I&#8217;ve known them, and by and large, they have long ago toss aside any notion of communism.  David Horowitz is an example of this.</p>
<p>You are right, others, the serious heavy hitters, the true believers are devious and dangerous.  But they don&#8217;t design paintings and sculptures.  They design laws and rules and regulations, and curriculum for your kid&#8217;s schools.  They join eco-groups and the Catholic church, because they know that is one of many ways to influence society without being exposed.  The last thing they would do, until they were ready, is operate in the open or draw attention to themselves.  They learned from their past mistakes as you pointed out in your response.  </p>
<p>Would Van Jones been tossed if Beck hadn&#8217;t spent time on sculptures and paintings?  Yes.  Beck had him right where he wanted him, without the side trip.  (Notice Olbermann seized on the paintings, not on the Van Jones facts) Is it important to understand how long the progressives have been with us?  Yes, and I learned a great deal from Beck&#8217;s reporting.  I didn&#8217;t even understand all of it myself, even though I&#8217;ve been watching closely for many years.  And for people like JadedByPolitics it is very important to gain perspective because that is the first thing lost when you find yourself caught in a revolution. </p>
<p>I understand why you feel I may have cheapened Beck&#8217;s efforts, but you have it wrong.  Beck must not cheapen Beck&#8217;s efforts.  He has to choose his targets, get the facts right (which he has) and keep focused.  Whether he needs my help isn&#8217;t important here. The original article was about Olbermann&#8217;s reaction.  </p>
<p>Finally, as you think I don&#8217;t know what I&#8217;m talking about, I spent a long time inside the world where bullets pierce flesh, I have made many good friends who have stood in that desert a half a world away.  I even have one on his way back now  and I inquired if he was interested in doing some personal security work for Beck months ago, before I heard Beck mention that he had already taken care of it.  </p>
<p>So no, I don&#8217;t take this lightly.    Here&#8217;s the latest post on my site dealing with this very subject.</p>
<p>http://truthandcommonsense.com/2009/09/06/the-far-left-is-getting-the-message-obama-might-just-be-screwing-them/</p>
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		<description>it looks like his research budget must have been slashed if he&#039;s willing to outsource it to our kos-sack friends.</description>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/09/04/cable-news-ratings-for-thursday-september-3-2009/26296#more-26296&quot;&gt;this page&lt;/a&gt; useful, too.</description>
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		<description>This could be great fun.  KO asks us to,  &quot;find everything you can about Glenn Beck,  Stu Burguiere, and Roger Ailes.&quot;  He could get millions of emails:

Dear Keith,
Glenn Beck is a successful  radio and television talk host. 

Dear Keith, 
Roger Ailes is the President of a successful news network.

Dear Keith,
You asked for &quot;everything [we] can find about Glenn Beck.  I hope this will be helpful:  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Beck

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This could be great fun.  KO asks us to,  &#8220;find everything you can about Glenn Beck,  Stu Burguiere, and Roger Ailes.&#8221;  He could get millions of emails:</p>
<p>Dear Keith,<br />
Glenn Beck is a successful  radio and television talk host. </p>
<p>Dear Keith,<br />
Roger Ailes is the President of a successful news network.</p>
<p>Dear Keith,<br />
You asked for &#8220;everything [we] can find about Glenn Beck.  I hope this will be helpful:<br />
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Beck</p>
<p>etc .etc</p>
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