Thought for the Morning and an Open Thread


Here’s your thought for the day:

If the Democrats want us to treat seriously that Republicans wish to starve old people and children, then they must treat seriously that many do have legitimate reasons for believing the Democrats want Grandma to kill herself to help meet the federal bottom line.

Frankly, there is more legitimacy in the idea that Democrats do want old people to move toward assisted suicide because, for example, many of their noted “thinkers” have said so than the idea that Republicans want to starve people.


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I have 2 words for those who doubt Dem motives

NickDeringer (Diary) Friday, August 14th at 7:54AM EST (link)

Terri Schiavo

May she rest in peace.

 

How long until

jhleek (Diary) Friday, August 14th at 8:02AM EST (link)

Grandma = Wasteful government spending?

Of course it is not directly in the bill, but as with any government program, as it grows, there will be a need to “cut out wasteful government spending”

Sorry Grandma

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joe

It was originally in the bill.

Thrhheggeegwc Jjtkylkfofud (Diary) Friday, August 14th at 8:26AM EST (link)

The Senate Finance Committee took it out, but as someone else pointed out to me yesterday, they can always put it back in later without announcing it.

 

I hate to bring the Nazis into the discussion, BUT

Next93 (Diary) Friday, August 14th at 10:45PM EST (link)

I hate to bring the Nazis into the discussion, but that’s exactly what happened in Germany in the early ’30s under thier “public option”, except it was the “feeble minded” and not the elderly. And I think that was *before* Hitler assumed “emergency powers”.

The problem with the whole “death panel” argument is that, even if it ISNT in the bill today, how much of a certainty is it that it will become part of the program in, say, 5 or 10 years, when the program is threatening to bankrupt the country (even more than it is today)?

Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.

 
 

Regarding Terri Schiavo

aeaeren Friday, August 14th at 8:53AM EST (link)

Perfect example of Govt interfering into Private lives. If you are truly believe in individual responsibility and the way our Govt works then once the court ruled it should have been over.

Non sequitur

Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Friday, August 14th at 10:11AM EST (link)

“individual responsibility” … “the court ruled”

No matter how you cut it, if the courts are ruling, then the government is involved.

There was a completely non governmental option, which was for Michael Schiavo to give Terri’s parents guardianship and allow them to assume responsibility for her care, like they requested.

Let’s not lose sight of who involved the government in the process. Since there was a specific individual asking permission to starve Terri Schiavo to death.

“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy

 
 

Erick, would like your (and the others) thoughts on this

Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Friday, August 14th at 10:04AM EST (link)

Gheraghty made a point that the townhalls may be steeling the nerves of some Dems, because they want to believe they are GOP plants not real constituents.

Since you have a lot of insight into the Congressional mindset, what is your opinion?

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YWY0NDJhYzQ5ODYzNmMxZmVhMGI5YmEzZGY0NjlmYmU=

“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy

Just my opinion, Dave in Fla, but from everything

janis (Diary) Friday, August 14th at 11:12AM EST (link)

I’m seeing daily, more and more who are protesting are not R’s exclusively. Even the lefties are pissed at O’s deal with Big Pharma, given that Big Pharma is one of their most hated bugaboos. For the Dems to believe what Geraghty posits, they’d have to live in a soundproof room somewhere.

If we could add padded walls to that mythical room and keep them from ever coming out, well…….. :-)

 
 

Ronald Reagan on socialized medicine

scottbomb (Diary) Friday, August 14th at 10:18AM EST (link)

I think this is the speech I just heard on WBAP. I can’t access youtube from work but I found it by googling “reagan 1961 heath care speech”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs

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“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” – Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

 

Also on Drudge write now and at TheRealRevo.com

ColdWarrior (Diary) Friday, August 14th at 10:31AM EST (link)

People need to hear it. Over and over.

I’m watching Erick right now on C-SPAN.

Wonderful.

Thank you.

ColdWarrior

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"right" for "write"

ColdWarrior (Diary) Friday, August 14th at 10:41AM EST (link)

Haven’t yet finished my first cup of coffee.

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The new video processing machine has arrived

Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Friday, August 14th at 12:37PM EST (link)

Since this is an open thread :)

Time to get my geek on…

Intel Core2 processor Q9650 (3.0GHz,1333FSB) w/Quad Core and 12MB cache, 4GB DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz, Nvidia GeForce GTS 240 Dual, 640GB SATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/ DataBurst Cache

“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy

Nice new system Dave

Richard Mullins (Diary) Friday, August 14th at 12:48PM EST (link)

I’ll be looking to change this system once once again to AM3 setup(keep the same amount of RAM) once Windows 7 is available.Having a little AMD 4850e is ok for the moment.

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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.

Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.

Yeah, never had the guts to go with AMD

Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Friday, August 14th at 12:55PM EST (link)

Everyone says they are better than equivalent Intel, but I always chicken out.

“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy

 
 
 

Any News Yet From Today's Montana Town Hall?

Ausonius (Diary) Friday, August 14th at 3:52PM EST (link)

Newsmax reported that NObama and his minions were prevented from rigging it:

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/town_hall_montana_obama/2009/08/14/247959.html

It is 3:50 P.M. E.S.T. and I have heard nothing about it so far.

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Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.

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The NYT is live blogging but that will just push me over the edge...

nessa (Diary) Friday, August 14th at 4:33PM EST (link)

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/14/live-blogging-obama-hosts-a-town-hall-in-montana/?hp

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Fox News Report on Montana Town Hall

Ausonius (Diary) Friday, August 14th at 4:46PM EST (link)

See:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/14/obamas-health-care-quest-heads-west/

An excerpt:

“BELGRADE, Mont – President Obama on Friday finally had to face a challenge about the bottom line of his health care plan at a town hall style meeting.

A Montana man asserted that Obama would have to raise Americans’ taxes to pay for his plan to overhaul the health care system.

Obama agreed that he couldn’t cover another 46 million people for free. But he told the man there are steps that he would take, including eliminating subsidies to insurance companies. Obama said instead the subsidies would go to low-income Americans to help them buy insurance.

Obama also reiterated his campaign pledge not to raise taxes on Americans making $250,000 or less.

Obama also said he isn’t trying to vilify the insurance companies, but rather stop their practices that hurt people.”

Ausonius: 310-395 A.D. Teacher, Poet, Consul, General, Farmer.

Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.

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Making $250K.. Many will be doing this after hyperinflation

GregInFla (Diary) Friday, August 14th at 9:19PM EST (link)

sets in. Then we’ll all be rich and pay our fair share!


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there are more billionaires in Zimbabwe

David Hinz (Diary) Friday, August 14th at 9:25PM EST (link)

than anywhere else in the world.

When we are done with our own hyperinflation we will look to Zimbabwe as a model of fiscal restraint.

 
 

If The One follows His usual pattern...

Next93 (Diary) Friday, August 14th at 10:51PM EST (link)

If history is any indicator, the Obamassiah will be repeating his pledge not to raise taxes on the middle class while he’s signing the bill that will raise taxes on the middle class. Then he’ll blame Bush for the tax increase.

Hey, it doesn’t have to make sense when you’re telegenic, right?

This president is single-handedly proving that television and democracy are inherently incompatible.

Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.

 
 
 
 

Wal-Mart is advertising for Ocare on a black radio station

mom2oneson (Diary) Sunday, August 16th at 1:56PM EST (link)

I went to the website the said to go to www.walmartstores.com and saw this article:
http://walmartstores.com/FactsNews/NewsRoom/9238.aspx

I was on my way there this morning actually pulling into the parking lot when the ad came on. That is my last trip to Walmart or Sams unless it’s something urgent. That is so dumb the NEA has generated so much hate for Wal-Mart with the left since they support private schools.

I’m curious why they would put this on the black radio station vs the other ones.

Is Target supporting ObamaCare???

izoneguy (Diary) Sunday, August 16th at 1:57PM EST (link)

I will quit shopping at WalMart – screw them.

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

I have no idea but I'm switching too

mom2oneson (Diary) Sunday, August 16th at 2:15PM EST (link)

Wal-Mart for sure was pitching this on a black radio station. This was a S AL radio station – it’s a very republican area. The only place I’ve seen an Obama sticker is at the health food store and in our apt complex which is very close to a college.

 
 

That would put the unions opposing Wal-Mart

TNJim (Diary) Sunday, August 16th at 2:13PM EST (link)

in a bit of a quandary wouldn’t it? All the grief they’ve given them about their lack of health care and other union “benefits” over the years and now they find they have to stand with Wal-Mart on something?

From this article:

Wal-Mart defends its stance as pro-business, calling the current system unsustainable.

“We also believe that a mandate must be accompanied by provisions that will reduce health costs and dramatically improve what we get for our health care dollar,” said Leslie Dach, executive vice president of corporate affairs and government relations.

Some see Wal-Mart’s move as self-serving, saddling smaller rivals with costs they cannot afford.

Wal-Mart’s endorsement letter sent to Obama in June was co-signed by the president of the Service Employees International Union and chief executive of the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank.

Joining forces with one of the biggest unions in the country seems an odd move for a company that long has opposed unionization and has been criticized for its low wages and benefits.

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Then I guess that neither entity cares about

janis (Diary) Sunday, August 16th at 2:22PM EST (link)

principle at all. Big surprise. The unions want card check and universal health care with the public option, and WalMart just wants to preserve their bottom line. As Achance has pointed out more than once, companies like WalMart will do what’s most profitable for them regardless of what it says to their customers WalMart views their customers much the same way that both parties’ politicians view their base: “Where else will they vote?”

WalMart has been posting good profits during this poor economy, unlike many of their competitors. Wouldn’t surprise me if they were rooting for the status quo to continue.

My own thoughts, just from my armchair quarterback position,

TNJim (Diary) Sunday, August 16th at 2:39PM EST (link)

is that I think the unions may have thought ZeroCare™ as 6eorge calls it would be a fine first step, followed by EFCA to finally get Wal-Mart to bow to their pressure.

Then Wal-Mart sabotages them by actually endorsing ZeroCare™. Of course, Wal_Mart might be thinking this would take some of the pressure to unionize off of them as well.

Unfortunately for me, K-Mart and Target are in the most congested parts of town, then again I never bought groceries from Wally World anyway.

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Good actionable post Mom

6eorge Jetson (Diary) Sunday, August 16th at 2:19PM EST (link)

I was going to go to a Wal Mart Superstore tonight for my weekly food staples

Now I have to decide between Target and Kroger.

 

As to why Walmart would air it on a black radio station but not others

6eorge Jetson (Diary) Sunday, August 16th at 2:25PM EST (link)

Simple PR

95% of blacks voted for Obama. I would suspect that blacks would still be largely supportive (not 95%, however) of ZeroCare™.

The country as a whole is turning against ZeroCare™ the more they learn.

Walmart is carefully selecting its audiences.