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	<title>Comments on: Lamar Alexander Plays Lapdog to Barbara Boxer and Endorses Government Mandated, Tax-Payer Funded Abortion</title>
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		<title>By: edward_cropper</title>
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		<dc:creator>edward_cropper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This creep has always been a wolf in wolf&#039;s clothings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This creep has always been a wolf in wolf&#8217;s clothings</p>
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		<title>By: aesthete</title>
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		<dc:creator>aesthete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 05:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You get to choose whether or not you support China when you purchase your goods from China, or from some other place. While unfortunately, from a practical standpoint, there&#039;s no way to completely extricate oneself from subsidizing goods made in China (most companies buy at least some supplies from China to keep costs down), one still does have the option of buying American-made goods (full disclosure: I don&#039;t). With this HC plan, assuming that funding for abortions is included, you are forced at gunpoint to support abortions, whether your beliefs lean that way or not. Besides that, I don&#039;t see how China&#039;s policies on abortion would change if Americans suddenly stopped trading with China. As such, I don&#039;t see supporting a (semi)-private company based in China as similar to being forced to subsidize abortions without any say in the matter. So I don&#039;t think that it&#039;s hypocritical to support free trade with China and oppose a HC bill with abortion funding.

Also, there are some, like Menlo, who support an embargo against China (once again, I don&#039;t, but that&#039;s immaterial to the conversation).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You get to choose whether or not you support China when you purchase your goods from China, or from some other place. While unfortunately, from a practical standpoint, there&#8217;s no way to completely extricate oneself from subsidizing goods made in China (most companies buy at least some supplies from China to keep costs down), one still does have the option of buying American-made goods (full disclosure: I don&#8217;t). With this HC plan, assuming that funding for abortions is included, you are forced at gunpoint to support abortions, whether your beliefs lean that way or not. Besides that, I don&#8217;t see how China&#8217;s policies on abortion would change if Americans suddenly stopped trading with China. As such, I don&#8217;t see supporting a (semi)-private company based in China as similar to being forced to subsidize abortions without any say in the matter. So I don&#8217;t think that it&#8217;s hypocritical to support free trade with China and oppose a HC bill with abortion funding.</p>
<p>Also, there are some, like Menlo, who support an embargo against China (once again, I don&#8217;t, but that&#8217;s immaterial to the conversation).</p>
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		<title>By: Menlo</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/07/24/lamar-alexander-plays-lapdog-to-barbara-boxer-and-endorses-government-mandated-tax-payer-funded-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-27700</link>
		<dc:creator>Menlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 02:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at page 20 of the &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_bills&amp;docid=f:s334is.txt.pdf&quot;&gt;Healthy Americans Act&lt;/a&gt;,&quot; it looks like an option for which the buyer would have to pay. It also provides a religious exemption. It seems a bit strange though. I would think the abortion would be cheaper than buying separate coverage for it. Again though, I may be misreading it or missing something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at page 20 of the &#8220;<a href="http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_bills&amp;docid=f:s334is.txt.pdf">Healthy Americans Act</a>,&#8221; it looks like an option for which the buyer would have to pay. It also provides a religious exemption. It seems a bit strange though. I would think the abortion would be cheaper than buying separate coverage for it. Again though, I may be misreading it or missing something.</p>
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		<title>By: Menlo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Menlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 02:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stopped buying made in China a few years ago, and I have long supported an immediate embargo on them.

If that&#039;s not enough, Chinese-made will get you defective and dangerous products, and support for a Communist dictatorship to boot.

Of course, one could actually argue that Communist Vietnam is worse as its abortion rates far exceed those of China. So do those in New York City for that matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped buying made in China a few years ago, and I have long supported an immediate embargo on them.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s not enough, Chinese-made will get you defective and dangerous products, and support for a Communist dictatorship to boot.</p>
<p>Of course, one could actually argue that Communist Vietnam is worse as its abortion rates far exceed those of China. So do those in New York City for that matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Menlo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Menlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 02:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stopped buying made in China a few years ago, and I have long supported an immediate embargo on them.

If that&#039;s not enough, Chinese-made will get you defective and dangerous products, and support for a Communist dictatorship to boot.

Of course, one could actually argue that Communist Vietnam is worse as its abortion rates far exceed those of China. So do those in New York City for that matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped buying made in China a few years ago, and I have long supported an immediate embargo on them.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s not enough, Chinese-made will get you defective and dangerous products, and support for a Communist dictatorship to boot.</p>
<p>Of course, one could actually argue that Communist Vietnam is worse as its abortion rates far exceed those of China. So do those in New York City for that matter.</p>
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		<title>By: mom2oneson</title>
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		<dc:creator>mom2oneson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Patrick McGarry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick McGarry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These spineless RINO&#039;s astound me every time. Despite tangible examples of how real, conservative ideas excite the public and bring greater fame and prestige to the politicians defending them, they still can&#039;t bring themselves to commit to the movement. Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These spineless RINO&#8217;s astound me every time. Despite tangible examples of how real, conservative ideas excite the public and bring greater fame and prestige to the politicians defending them, they still can&#8217;t bring themselves to commit to the movement. Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: toni100</title>
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		<dc:creator>toni100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lamar unfortunately has no worries in TN.  He stays scarce here, especially in Middle TN. The Tn Chair of the GOP is a handmaiden to Lamar, don&#039;t expect to see support for any &#039;Conservatives&#039; to be coming from the TN GOP until Lamar is gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lamar unfortunately has no worries in TN.  He stays scarce here, especially in Middle TN. The Tn Chair of the GOP is a handmaiden to Lamar, don&#8217;t expect to see support for any &#8216;Conservatives&#8217; to be coming from the TN GOP until Lamar is gone.</p>
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		<title>By: eliminatedebt</title>
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		<dc:creator>eliminatedebt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>buy something made in China. You&#039;ve either already accepted your money going to abortions as a fact of life or this country needs to think about where they&#039;re sending their money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>buy something made in China. You&#8217;ve either already accepted your money going to abortions as a fact of life or this country needs to think about where they&#8217;re sending their money.</p>
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		<title>By: lkdavis</title>
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		<dc:creator>lkdavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>need to be challenged hard in every election. They stay in office because the current system is rigged to favor incumbents. The more important commitee assignments are for those with more seniority. People don&#039;t want to have their Senator or Representative losing out..if they are lower in seniority they can&#039;t bring home the bacon. Peolpe have been conditioned to expect the pork. Because of this type of thing, members like Senator Alexander feel like they can vote for laws they know their constituents don&#039;t want because by the time they come up for reelection, all that will be remembered is what they brought back home.
People like Senator Alexander are a problem in that they consistently cross over and support the Democrats while betraying their colleagues on the Republican side. They end up being Republican in name only.
Do I want them kicked out of the Republican party? No. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. What we need is for someone with conservative beliefs to challenge these liberal and moderate Republicans in every election and do what we can to defeat them. If that fails and they get reelected, we need to hold their feet to the fire, and if necessary, CRANK THE HEAT UP! They need to be reminded that we elected them and they are to represent US, not some special interest group.
REMEMBER, SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES ARE REPLACABLE.

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When you can&#039;t make them see the light, make them feel the heat. 
Ronald Reagan
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It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people&#039;s minds. 
Samuel Adams</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>need to be challenged hard in every election. They stay in office because the current system is rigged to favor incumbents. The more important commitee assignments are for those with more seniority. People don&#8217;t want to have their Senator or Representative losing out..if they are lower in seniority they can&#8217;t bring home the bacon. Peolpe have been conditioned to expect the pork. Because of this type of thing, members like Senator Alexander feel like they can vote for laws they know their constituents don&#8217;t want because by the time they come up for reelection, all that will be remembered is what they brought back home.<br />
People like Senator Alexander are a problem in that they consistently cross over and support the Democrats while betraying their colleagues on the Republican side. They end up being Republican in name only.<br />
Do I want them kicked out of the Republican party? No. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. What we need is for someone with conservative beliefs to challenge these liberal and moderate Republicans in every election and do what we can to defeat them. If that fails and they get reelected, we need to hold their feet to the fire, and if necessary, CRANK THE HEAT UP! They need to be reminded that we elected them and they are to represent US, not some special interest group.<br />
REMEMBER, SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES ARE REPLACABLE.</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
When you can&#8217;t make them see the light, make them feel the heat.<br />
Ronald Reagan<br />
                            &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people&#8217;s minds.<br />
Samuel Adams</p>
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		<title>By: Justin_Case</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin_Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexander was re-elected to his Senate seat in 2008.

I guess that&#039;s why he&#039;s cozy with Boxer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexander was re-elected to his Senate seat in 2008.</p>
<p>I guess that&#8217;s why he&#8217;s cozy with Boxer.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin_Case</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin_Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in the 2002 Republican Primary. Former Congressman Ed Bryant was.

Bryant ran again in 2006 and lost to Bob Corker-who has been somewhat of a pleasant surprise.

Tennessee was one state that McCain easily won and abortion is not widely accepted here, although one occasionally hears from the &quot;wine sipping, brie eating&quot; wing of the GOP about how social issues are not that important.

Look for a primary challenge for Lamar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in the 2002 Republican Primary. Former Congressman Ed Bryant was.</p>
<p>Bryant ran again in 2006 and lost to Bob Corker-who has been somewhat of a pleasant surprise.</p>
<p>Tennessee was one state that McCain easily won and abortion is not widely accepted here, although one occasionally hears from the &#8220;wine sipping, brie eating&#8221; wing of the GOP about how social issues are not that important.</p>
<p>Look for a primary challenge for Lamar.</p>
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		<title>By: rcov092</title>
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		<dc:creator>rcov092</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as committeman and currently building a wep platform for our club with community, Civivcrm implementation to strengthen and help attack the weak kneed on both sides. Lamar is a waste of 167k Plus a year. He does not get my money, Charlie Crist does not get may money or my vote. John Cornyn does not get my money, Marco Rubio does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as committeman and currently building a wep platform for our club with community, Civivcrm implementation to strengthen and help attack the weak kneed on both sides. Lamar is a waste of 167k Plus a year. He does not get my money, Charlie Crist does not get may money or my vote. John Cornyn does not get my money, Marco Rubio does.</p>
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