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	<title>Comments on: Democrats Want to Teach You to Die With Dignity</title>
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		<title>By: David123</title>
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		<dc:creator>David123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>although I would refer to such people as &quot;leftists&quot; not &quot;liberals&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>although I would refer to such people as &#8220;leftists&#8221; not &#8220;liberals&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: factsaregood</title>
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		<dc:creator>factsaregood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[&quot;...not because it stops the screaming, but because I don&#039;t know any other way to cry for help.&quot;]

[Alas, we don&#039;t do therapy.  Sorry.  - ML]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>["...not because it stops the screaming, but because I don't know any other way to cry for help."]</p>
<p>[Alas, we don't do therapy.  Sorry.  - ML]</p>
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		<title>By: UpLateAgain</title>
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		<dc:creator>UpLateAgain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the government does it it, THAT is specifically when it is a problem.   We chose to purchase in the free market what we determine is our best option after doing a cost-benefit analysis.  The government does not give you a choice, and they can use force of law to get you to comply with their wishes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the government does it it, THAT is specifically when it is a problem.   We chose to purchase in the free market what we determine is our best option after doing a cost-benefit analysis.  The government does not give you a choice, and they can use force of law to get you to comply with their wishes.</p>
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		<title>By: fisk2521</title>
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		<dc:creator>fisk2521</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious, does this also mean that anyone who lives their life carelessly, i.e. smokes, is an alcoholic, mountain climbs, scuba dives, or engages in certain types of homosexual high risk activities should be barred from treatment since it&#039;s essentially &#039;their own fault&#039;?  

What is the cost/benefit of AIDS treatments?  or bypass surgery?  Liver transplants?  Hip replacement at, say the age of 78?  

Obama smokes.... should we ignore any lung issues he develops?  If his wife gains weight over the years (quite possible I&#039;d think) should we deny her care because she was irresponsible?  What about Ted Kennedy.....his treatments are surely not going to add much time to his life...should   they are stopped in the name of cost in this health care and economic crisis?  Senator Byrd is a very old man....he has been in and out of the hospital for the past years, and is barely able to walk.... was it &#039;worth it&#039;.?

If we are a &#039;decent&#039; people and don&#039;t think like Nazi Germany; of course these people should be given the dignifity of care and life sustaining help.  It is not Obama&#039;s, nor Nancy Pelosi&#039;s, nor Harry Reid&#039;s, nor monsters like Pete Singer&#039;s right to decide for anyone but themselves.  Religions of the world have taught us to cherish life and in my world God condemns those that do not.  

Who are these monsters who think they can control life itself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious, does this also mean that anyone who lives their life carelessly, i.e. smokes, is an alcoholic, mountain climbs, scuba dives, or engages in certain types of homosexual high risk activities should be barred from treatment since it&#8217;s essentially &#8216;their own fault&#8217;?  </p>
<p>What is the cost/benefit of AIDS treatments?  or bypass surgery?  Liver transplants?  Hip replacement at, say the age of 78?  </p>
<p>Obama smokes&#8230;. should we ignore any lung issues he develops?  If his wife gains weight over the years (quite possible I&#8217;d think) should we deny her care because she was irresponsible?  What about Ted Kennedy&#8230;..his treatments are surely not going to add much time to his life&#8230;should   they are stopped in the name of cost in this health care and economic crisis?  Senator Byrd is a very old man&#8230;.he has been in and out of the hospital for the past years, and is barely able to walk&#8230;. was it &#8216;worth it&#8217;.?</p>
<p>If we are a &#8216;decent&#8217; people and don&#8217;t think like Nazi Germany; of course these people should be given the dignifity of care and life sustaining help.  It is not Obama&#8217;s, nor Nancy Pelosi&#8217;s, nor Harry Reid&#8217;s, nor monsters like Pete Singer&#8217;s right to decide for anyone but themselves.  Religions of the world have taught us to cherish life and in my world God condemns those that do not.  </p>
<p>Who are these monsters who think they can control life itself?</p>
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		<title>By: UpLateAgain</title>
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		<dc:creator>UpLateAgain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And once that position is noted and they decide to send an agent to my house,  he will be told ONCE that my wife and I are adults, who neither need nor want nor will tolerate under any circumstances the government having ANYTHING whatsoever to do with, or ANY interest in our end of life issues.  If he does anything but leave immediately he will be staring down the barrel of a suitable piece of hardware and being advised that he is the one rapidly approaching an end of life issue.

As bad as the rest of the Obama agenda is, for some reason this issue incenses me more than most others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And once that position is noted and they decide to send an agent to my house,  he will be told ONCE that my wife and I are adults, who neither need nor want nor will tolerate under any circumstances the government having ANYTHING whatsoever to do with, or ANY interest in our end of life issues.  If he does anything but leave immediately he will be staring down the barrel of a suitable piece of hardware and being advised that he is the one rapidly approaching an end of life issue.</p>
<p>As bad as the rest of the Obama agenda is, for some reason this issue incenses me more than most others.</p>
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		<title>By: ctyankee44</title>
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		<dc:creator>ctyankee44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I pity the fool that gives that talk...

On the day that a government spokesperson comes to me and says it&#039;s time to pass the torch (for all time) -- I will draw my sword and kill that person where they stand, and anoint myself with their blood.

I will pay for my own care and maintenance.  If they outlaw my choice / ability to buy my own treatments I will lead the march on DC with the walker brigade...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I pity the fool that gives that talk&#8230;</p>
<p>On the day that a government spokesperson comes to me and says it&#8217;s time to pass the torch (for all time) &#8212; I will draw my sword and kill that person where they stand, and anoint myself with their blood.</p>
<p>I will pay for my own care and maintenance.  If they outlaw my choice / ability to buy my own treatments I will lead the march on DC with the walker brigade&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: randy streu</title>
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		<dc:creator>randy streu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that liberals are willing to spend millions a year keeping murderers and rapists alive (as opposed to the one-time cost of permanent removal), but jump eagerly at the chance to slaughter the unborn and euthanize the elderly...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that liberals are willing to spend millions a year keeping murderers and rapists alive (as opposed to the one-time cost of permanent removal), but jump eagerly at the chance to slaughter the unborn and euthanize the elderly&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: farstar99</title>
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		<dc:creator>farstar99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That nasty, awful &quot;prolonging of life&quot; issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That nasty, awful &#8220;prolonging of life&#8221; issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie_in_Indiana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie_in_Indiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>would be cheaper and I&#039;m sure before it&#039;s over that will become a talking point as well. 

When I heard Obama talk about the end of life experience and the treatments that would withheld I couldn&#039;t believe my ears. Withhold simple treatments like antibiotics,fluids,and make them comfortable. More often than not fluids and potassium are life saving inexpensive treatments,but death would come much quicker without them. What a cold way to say that our elderly are useless and need to die to save the government money. Obama&#039;s true colors are showing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would be cheaper and I&#8217;m sure before it&#8217;s over that will become a talking point as well. </p>
<p>When I heard Obama talk about the end of life experience and the treatments that would withheld I couldn&#8217;t believe my ears. Withhold simple treatments like antibiotics,fluids,and make them comfortable. More often than not fluids and potassium are life saving inexpensive treatments,but death would come much quicker without them. What a cold way to say that our elderly are useless and need to die to save the government money. Obama&#8217;s true colors are showing.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie_in_Indiana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie_in_Indiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>would be cheaper and I&#039;m sure before it&#039;s over that will become a talking point as well. 

When I heard Obama talk about the end of life experience and the treatments that would withheld I couldn&#039;t believe my ears. Withhold simple treatments like antibiotics,fluids,and make them comfortable. More often than not fluids and potassium are life saving inexpensive treatments,but death would come much quicker without them. What a cold way to say that our elderly are useless and need to die to save the government money. Obama&#039;s true colors are showing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would be cheaper and I&#8217;m sure before it&#8217;s over that will become a talking point as well. </p>
<p>When I heard Obama talk about the end of life experience and the treatments that would withheld I couldn&#8217;t believe my ears. Withhold simple treatments like antibiotics,fluids,and make them comfortable. More often than not fluids and potassium are life saving inexpensive treatments,but death would come much quicker without them. What a cold way to say that our elderly are useless and need to die to save the government money. Obama&#8217;s true colors are showing.</p>
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		<title>By: olsmithie</title>
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		<dc:creator>olsmithie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in the same year. 
I don&#039;t know the current numbers, but I remember the year they got 30 million while beating the drum for the Demoncrats.

Can you spell &quot;conflict of interest?&quot;

Boy, Obamacare will sure cut the AARP&#039;s membership. 
Wonder how they will like that?

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in the same year.<br />
I don&#8217;t know the current numbers, but I remember the year they got 30 million while beating the drum for the Demoncrats.</p>
<p>Can you spell &#8220;conflict of interest?&#8221;</p>
<p>Boy, Obamacare will sure cut the AARP&#8217;s membership.<br />
Wonder how they will like that?</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: cheeflo</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheeflo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.texasrighttolife.com/lifeIssues_euthanasia_bush.php</description>
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		<title>By: cheeflo</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheeflo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The true believers delivered themselves, on schedule, to their own destruction at Carousel, believing that they would be reborn, as promised by the government. The runners were skeptics who didn&#039;t buy into the lie. Even the sandman finally realizes that the benevolent government, which meets every need, and promises life everlasting, is a gigantic, terrible, inhuman con. A cautionary tale that seems far fetched, yet is frighteningly anything but. Utopia is only another name for Hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The true believers delivered themselves, on schedule, to their own destruction at Carousel, believing that they would be reborn, as promised by the government. The runners were skeptics who didn&#8217;t buy into the lie. Even the sandman finally realizes that the benevolent government, which meets every need, and promises life everlasting, is a gigantic, terrible, inhuman con. A cautionary tale that seems far fetched, yet is frighteningly anything but. Utopia is only another name for Hell.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>crack-brained idea the libs want to force on all of us.  They&#039;ve never been for the elderly, no matter what they say.  They are all about what&#039;s good for them, as with so many supposedly altruistic organizations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>crack-brained idea the libs want to force on all of us.  They&#8217;ve never been for the elderly, no matter what they say.  They are all about what&#8217;s good for them, as with so many supposedly altruistic organizations.</p>
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		<title>By: Scope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>n/t</description>
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		<title>By: peg_c</title>
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		<dc:creator>peg_c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many lefty Boomers will figure this out?</description>
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		<title>By: peg_c</title>
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		<dc:creator>peg_c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>n/t</description>
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		<title>By: peg_c</title>
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		<dc:creator>peg_c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>said &quot;Dems at heart are Nazis.&quot; Because it&#039;s such a cliche and so simplistic, yet they continue to prove it&#039;s true.

When I was a lefty, part of the dogma I learned and had to spew was this stuff.  I used to echo Gov. Lamm&#039;s &quot;the elderly have a duty to die&quot; garbage. Believe me, Dems believe this, especially this callous, nihilistic young crowd fawning over the Thug Con Artist. Furthermore, we know they believe in aborting less than perfect babies (as well as all &quot;unwanted&quot; perfect ones) from the screams and wails over Trig Palin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>said &#8220;Dems at heart are Nazis.&#8221; Because it&#8217;s such a cliche and so simplistic, yet they continue to prove it&#8217;s true.</p>
<p>When I was a lefty, part of the dogma I learned and had to spew was this stuff.  I used to echo Gov. Lamm&#8217;s &#8220;the elderly have a duty to die&#8221; garbage. Believe me, Dems believe this, especially this callous, nihilistic young crowd fawning over the Thug Con Artist. Furthermore, we know they believe in aborting less than perfect babies (as well as all &#8220;unwanted&#8221; perfect ones) from the screams and wails over Trig Palin.</p>
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		<title>By: jmgrinder</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmgrinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s always interesting to watch &quot;conservatives&quot; get up in arms about the value of life. Such selective outrage. The Republican Party controls Texas lock, stock, and barrel, but there&#039;s no peep from any of you about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.notdeadyet.org/docs/TXfutilecarelawPR0506.html&quot;&gt;Texas Futile Care Law&lt;/a&gt;, which disconnects poor people from life support. It was used during the Teri Schiavo case to kill someone, but somehow the Christian Right didn&#039;t want to notice.

Oh, and where are all the &quot;conservative&quot; protests about the HMOs and insurance companies that kill patients and policyholders by refusing care? It&#039;s okay if the efficient private sector kills people, but if the government does it then it&#039;s a problem, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s always interesting to watch &#8220;conservatives&#8221; get up in arms about the value of life. Such selective outrage. The Republican Party controls Texas lock, stock, and barrel, but there&#8217;s no peep from any of you about the <a href="http://www.notdeadyet.org/docs/TXfutilecarelawPR0506.html">Texas Futile Care Law</a>, which disconnects poor people from life support. It was used during the Teri Schiavo case to kill someone, but somehow the Christian Right didn&#8217;t want to notice.</p>
<p>Oh, and where are all the &#8220;conservative&#8221; protests about the HMOs and insurance companies that kill patients and policyholders by refusing care? It&#8217;s okay if the efficient private sector kills people, but if the government does it then it&#8217;s a problem, right?</p>
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