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		<title>By: miken</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/07/12/on-the-cheney-didnt-tell-us-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-27183</link>
		<dc:creator>miken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hayden is talking about the IG reports of CIA surveillance.  The Cheney story came from Panetta, about a secret program that Congress wasn&#039;t told about at the direction of Cheney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hayden is talking about the IG reports of CIA surveillance.  The Cheney story came from Panetta, about a secret program that Congress wasn&#8217;t told about at the direction of Cheney.</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/07/12/on-the-cheney-didnt-tell-us-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-27181</link>
		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I get the image in my head of Cheney being wheeled in like Hannibal Lecter with that mask over his face and a straitjacket on so he can&#039;t talk, move or gesture.  At this juncture, even the Dems have to be aware that he&#039;d make mincemeat of their circus act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I get the image in my head of Cheney being wheeled in like Hannibal Lecter with that mask over his face and a straitjacket on so he can&#8217;t talk, move or gesture.  At this juncture, even the Dems have to be aware that he&#8217;d make mincemeat of their circus act.</p>
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		<title>By: smagar</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/07/12/on-the-cheney-didnt-tell-us-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-27179</link>
		<dc:creator>smagar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/13/cia-secret-al-qaeda-plan/&quot;&gt; From the WSJ &lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Amid the high alert following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, a small CIA unit examined the potential for targeted assassinations of al Qaeda operatives, according to the three former officials. The Ford administration had banned assassinations in the response to investigations into intelligence abuses in the 1970s. Some officials who advocated the approach were seeking to build teams of CIA and military Special Forces commandos to emulate what the Israelis did after the Munich Olympics terrorist attacks, said another former intelligence official.

&quot;It was straight out of the movies,&quot; one of the former intelligence officials said. &quot;It was like: Let&#039;s kill them all.&quot;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;i&gt;straight out of the movies.&lt;/i&gt;  No, more like straight out of real life.  The Israelis decided to go after the people that murdered their athletes in Munich.  It sounds as if Bush and Cheney were considering the same thing.  

Sounds like a good idea to me!

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Republicans on the panel say that the CIA effort didn&#039;t advance to a point where Congress clearly should have been notified.

...

Senior CIA leaders were briefed two or three times on the most recent iteration of the initiative, the last time in the spring of 2008. At that time, CIA brass said that the effort should be narrowed and that Congress should be briefed if the preparations reached a critical stage, a former senior intelligence official said.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;i&gt;if the preparations reached a critical stage.&lt;/i&gt;  Reading between the lines, that makes it sound as if the preparations HADN&#039;T reached a critical stage during the Bush administration.

Sounds like a judgement call to me.  Given the likelihood that some Dem staffer would have leaked to Pincus or Priest or Risen or Lichtblau, I&#039;d say it was a good call.

If the Dems want to have this fight, bring it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/13/cia-secret-al-qaeda-plan/"> From the WSJ </a></p>
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Amid the high alert following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, a small CIA unit examined the potential for targeted assassinations of al Qaeda operatives, according to the three former officials. The Ford administration had banned assassinations in the response to investigations into intelligence abuses in the 1970s. Some officials who advocated the approach were seeking to build teams of CIA and military Special Forces commandos to emulate what the Israelis did after the Munich Olympics terrorist attacks, said another former intelligence official.</p>
<p>&#8220;It was straight out of the movies,&#8221; one of the former intelligence officials said. &#8220;It was like: Let&#8217;s kill them all.&#8221;
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<p><i>straight out of the movies.</i>  No, more like straight out of real life.  The Israelis decided to go after the people that murdered their athletes in Munich.  It sounds as if Bush and Cheney were considering the same thing.  </p>
<p>Sounds like a good idea to me!</p>
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Republicans on the panel say that the CIA effort didn&#8217;t advance to a point where Congress clearly should have been notified.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Senior CIA leaders were briefed two or three times on the most recent iteration of the initiative, the last time in the spring of 2008. At that time, CIA brass said that the effort should be narrowed and that Congress should be briefed if the preparations reached a critical stage, a former senior intelligence official said.
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<p><i>if the preparations reached a critical stage.</i>  Reading between the lines, that makes it sound as if the preparations HADN&#8217;T reached a critical stage during the Bush administration.</p>
<p>Sounds like a judgement call to me.  Given the likelihood that some Dem staffer would have leaked to Pincus or Priest or Risen or Lichtblau, I&#8217;d say it was a good call.</p>
<p>If the Dems want to have this fight, bring it.</p>
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		<title>By: smagar</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/07/12/on-the-cheney-didnt-tell-us-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-27178</link>
		<dc:creator>smagar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and thanks for your informative, adequately-detailed comment that has added so much to the debate on this site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and thanks for your informative, adequately-detailed comment that has added so much to the debate on this site.</p>
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		<title>By: bobojake</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/07/12/on-the-cheney-didnt-tell-us-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-27177</link>
		<dc:creator>bobojake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and distraction</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and distraction</p>
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		<title>By: bk</title>
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		<dc:creator>bk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many times did we hear from Kerry and every other Democrat that Bush &quot;failed to get the job done at Tora Bora&quot; and &quot;took his eye off the ball&quot; when it came to taking out bin Laden and so on? Now the Dems are going to go back and say that a policy to take him out on sight was wrong? I don&#039;t think that would play in Peoria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many times did we hear from Kerry and every other Democrat that Bush &#8220;failed to get the job done at Tora Bora&#8221; and &#8220;took his eye off the ball&#8221; when it came to taking out bin Laden and so on? Now the Dems are going to go back and say that a policy to take him out on sight was wrong? I don&#8217;t think that would play in Peoria.</p>
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		<title>By: miken</title>
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		<dc:creator>miken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Hayden isn&#039;t talking about the Cheney story here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Hayden isn&#8217;t talking about the Cheney story here.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Holliday</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/07/12/on-the-cheney-didnt-tell-us-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-27174</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Holliday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it would be an amazing turn around, but I think people have actually tired on the Bush bashing.  The Dems are screwing things up and are definitely going to this well one time to many.  Obama and his insidious agenda can only be derailed by this witch hunt, that is good for us.  Americans are becoming increasingly worried, there are not enough of them to freak about tough anti-terror policies.

Obama can play to his Daily Kook base all he wants to, it will only help our side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it would be an amazing turn around, but I think people have actually tired on the Bush bashing.  The Dems are screwing things up and are definitely going to this well one time to many.  Obama and his insidious agenda can only be derailed by this witch hunt, that is good for us.  Americans are becoming increasingly worried, there are not enough of them to freak about tough anti-terror policies.</p>
<p>Obama can play to his Daily Kook base all he wants to, it will only help our side.</p>
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		<title>By: keeper</title>
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		<dc:creator>keeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and this can almost be guaranteed to be the next big distraction. One interesting statement from Hayden in the linked article was this though.

&quot;One of the points I had in every one of the briefings was to make sure they understood the scope of our activity &#039;They&#039;ve got to know this is bigger than a bread box,&#039; I said,&quot; said Hayden, who also previously headed the National Security Agency.&quot;

That almost sounds like he&#039;s trying to get some wiggle room, like I told them about programs but they should have know they were bigger or whatever, that sounds less convincing.

Also has Cheney made a statement yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and this can almost be guaranteed to be the next big distraction. One interesting statement from Hayden in the linked article was this though.</p>
<p>&#8220;One of the points I had in every one of the briefings was to make sure they understood the scope of our activity &#8216;They&#8217;ve got to know this is bigger than a bread box,&#8217; I said,&#8221; said Hayden, who also previously headed the National Security Agency.&#8221;</p>
<p>That almost sounds like he&#8217;s trying to get some wiggle room, like I told them about programs but they should have know they were bigger or whatever, that sounds less convincing.</p>
<p>Also has Cheney made a statement yet?</p>
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		<title>By: konstantine</title>
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		<dc:creator>konstantine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully none. But if there are, you know that the democrats along with the media will try to make the case that it would be Cheney and Bush&#039;s fault, not the Obama administrations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully none. But if there are, you know that the democrats along with the media will try to make the case that it would be Cheney and Bush&#8217;s fault, not the Obama administrations.</p>
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		<title>By: mbecker908</title>
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		<dc:creator>mbecker908</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 03:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jerk offs would be worth ANY price of admission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jerk offs would be worth ANY price of admission.</p>
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