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	<title>Comments on: A Tale of Two Leaders: Boehner v. McConnell</title>
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		<title>By: tanstaafl1019</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanstaafl1019</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with both sides of this issue--a member of Congress should represent the constituents AND the party. Sometimes that&#039;s easy to do and sometimes it requires a very deft hand.

I do believe the elected should primarily represent the electorate, but we should also remember that Congressional races are not run on votes alone. They&#039;re also run on cash, and a lot of that cash comes from the party and its members. 

Also, at what point does &quot;representing the constituents&quot; cross the line into &quot;at the whim of the polls&quot;? I respect a politician who stands on principle rather than on the always-changing wind of public opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with both sides of this issue&#8211;a member of Congress should represent the constituents AND the party. Sometimes that&#8217;s easy to do and sometimes it requires a very deft hand.</p>
<p>I do believe the elected should primarily represent the electorate, but we should also remember that Congressional races are not run on votes alone. They&#8217;re also run on cash, and a lot of that cash comes from the party and its members. </p>
<p>Also, at what point does &#8220;representing the constituents&#8221; cross the line into &#8220;at the whim of the polls&#8221;? I respect a politician who stands on principle rather than on the always-changing wind of public opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Next93</title>
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		<dc:creator>Next93</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t some higway bill or an earmark to build a new community center in East Earache; this bill will effectively delare that the industrial revolution has ended in America.  I&#039;m not being hyperbolic here - this was the Hill to Die On if ever there was one.

If we can&#039;t count on someone with an &quot;R&quot; after his name to vote against an econonmy destorying bill like this, then what difference does that letter make?

If he&#039;s going to vote like a democrat when the going gets tough, there might as well be a democrat fanny filling the seat.  At least then the Democrats will have to take full blame of the effects of tragically bad legislation forced on the voters over the objections of the Republicans.  

Seems to me that limited party resources would be better spent winning seats that can be counted on rather than securing &quot;dem lite&quot; seats for RINOs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t some higway bill or an earmark to build a new community center in East Earache; this bill will effectively delare that the industrial revolution has ended in America.  I&#8217;m not being hyperbolic here &#8211; this was the Hill to Die On if ever there was one.</p>
<p>If we can&#8217;t count on someone with an &#8220;R&#8221; after his name to vote against an econonmy destorying bill like this, then what difference does that letter make?</p>
<p>If he&#8217;s going to vote like a democrat when the going gets tough, there might as well be a democrat fanny filling the seat.  At least then the Democrats will have to take full blame of the effects of tragically bad legislation forced on the voters over the objections of the Republicans.  </p>
<p>Seems to me that limited party resources would be better spent winning seats that can be counted on rather than securing &#8220;dem lite&#8221; seats for RINOs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Higgins</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/06/28/a-tale-of-two-leaders-boehner-v-mcconnell/comment-page-1/#comment-26179</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Higgins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If most of Reichert&#039;s constituency is in favor of the bill, I believe that he  should do the will of those he was elected to represent, regardless if it doesn&#039;t follow the &quot;party&quot; line.
That should be the duty of every member of Congress. They are there to represent THE PEOPLE. Not a political party, and certainly not themselves.
Unfortunately, it never works out that way, but it should.

Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If most of Reichert&#8217;s constituency is in favor of the bill, I believe that he  should do the will of those he was elected to represent, regardless if it doesn&#8217;t follow the &#8220;party&#8221; line.<br />
That should be the duty of every member of Congress. They are there to represent THE PEOPLE. Not a political party, and certainly not themselves.<br />
Unfortunately, it never works out that way, but it should.</p>
<p>Bill</p>
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		<title>By: daezy</title>
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		<dc:creator>daezy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If congressional conservatives can&#039;t be true to their principles, they must be called out. We have entrusted them to help govern our country, and if they turn coat .... GET THEM OUT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If congressional conservatives can&#8217;t be true to their principles, they must be called out. We have entrusted them to help govern our country, and if they turn coat &#8230;. GET THEM OUT.</p>
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		<title>By: snewb098</title>
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		<dc:creator>snewb098</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are home now on vacation after stabbing us in the back.
Bono Mack (CA) (home office) 760-323-8810 (DC) 202-225-5330 
Castle (DE) (home office) 302-428-1902 (DC) 202-225-4165 
Kirk (IL) (home office) 847-940-0202 (DC)202-225-4835 
Lance (NJ) (home office) 908-518-7733 (DC)202-225-5361
Lobiondo (NJ) (home office) 609-625-5008 (DC) 202-225-6572 
McHugh (NY) (home office) 315-782-3150 (DC)202-225-4611
Reichart (WA) (home office) 206 275-3438 (DC) 202-225-7761
Chris Smith (NJ) (home office) 609-585-7878 (DC)202-225-3765</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are home now on vacation after stabbing us in the back.<br />
Bono Mack (CA) (home office) 760-323-8810 (DC) 202-225-5330<br />
Castle (DE) (home office) 302-428-1902 (DC) 202-225-4165<br />
Kirk (IL) (home office) 847-940-0202 (DC)202-225-4835<br />
Lance (NJ) (home office) 908-518-7733 (DC)202-225-5361<br />
Lobiondo (NJ) (home office) 609-625-5008 (DC) 202-225-6572<br />
McHugh (NY) (home office) 315-782-3150 (DC)202-225-4611<br />
Reichart (WA) (home office) 206 275-3438 (DC) 202-225-7761<br />
Chris Smith (NJ) (home office) 609-585-7878 (DC)202-225-3765</p>
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		<title>By: reaganiterepublicanresistance</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/06/28/a-tale-of-two-leaders-boehner-v-mcconnell/comment-page-1/#comment-26176</link>
		<dc:creator>reaganiterepublicanresistance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama claimed that the average American would not bear the brunt of this historic tax-increase: he stated that instead ““It is paid for by the polluters who currently emit dangerous carbon emissions.”

Just compare this outrageous falsehood to Ronald Reagans’ famous quote:
“The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us.

&quot;Business doesn’t pay taxes, and who better than business to make this message known? Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business.”

And after the way the rammed this through the House with little debate, without legislators even reading it… and while quarantining the GOP from any meaningful input whatsoever, any foolhardy individuals who still believe Obama’s threadbare “bipartisanship” spiel ought to have their head examined.

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama claimed that the average American would not bear the brunt of this historic tax-increase: he stated that instead ““It is paid for by the polluters who currently emit dangerous carbon emissions.”</p>
<p>Just compare this outrageous falsehood to Ronald Reagans’ famous quote:<br />
“The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us.</p>
<p>&#8220;Business doesn’t pay taxes, and who better than business to make this message known? Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business.”</p>
<p>And after the way the rammed this through the House with little debate, without legislators even reading it… and while quarantining the GOP from any meaningful input whatsoever, any foolhardy individuals who still believe Obama’s threadbare “bipartisanship” spiel ought to have their head examined.</p>
<p>http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/</p>
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		<title>By: edward_cropper</title>
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		<dc:creator>edward_cropper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Boehner is a congressman from a very safe Republican district in Ohio. A district next to the one I have lived in all my life.
He has been a fence rider most of his time in office and has been House Republican leader during the slam dunk victories by Democrats the last few years.
He seems to always know when to act tough when personal political hay can be made, but saddles up to his Democrat opponents when the bullets are flying.
I find it amazing how those &quot;conservatives&quot; who only know what they know about current politics is what they glean from blog sites are anxious to make this guy king of the hill when he is only doing now what he has always done when the opportunity presents itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Boehner is a congressman from a very safe Republican district in Ohio. A district next to the one I have lived in all my life.<br />
He has been a fence rider most of his time in office and has been House Republican leader during the slam dunk victories by Democrats the last few years.<br />
He seems to always know when to act tough when personal political hay can be made, but saddles up to his Democrat opponents when the bullets are flying.<br />
I find it amazing how those &#8220;conservatives&#8221; who only know what they know about current politics is what they glean from blog sites are anxious to make this guy king of the hill when he is only doing now what he has always done when the opportunity presents itself.</p>
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		<title>By: mbecker908</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/06/28/a-tale-of-two-leaders-boehner-v-mcconnell/comment-page-1/#comment-26174</link>
		<dc:creator>mbecker908</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should have credible House candidates in EVERY district, including every district in MA.  If we took them all and have a solid majority in the House it won&#039;t matter if they stray occasionally.  It&#039;s when we&#039;re in the woods that it matters.

For example, neither Snowe or Collins has ever cast real vote that hurt us until Specter went totally off the reservation and they followed.  I&#039;m reasonably sure that if Specter had voted NO, they would have as well.  Leaders they ain&#039;t.  And they&#039;re not fighters either.  

If House and Senate Rs understood that the legislative priorities had to be held and that there would be serious consequences for squirreling on those, squishies from lefty districts would not be an issue.  But, of course, that would require leadership.  Something I&#039;ve only seen twice in my life - Reagan and Newt.  Neither of the Bushes could lead an addict to drugs, nor could any other national party &quot;leader&quot; we&#039;ve seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should have credible House candidates in EVERY district, including every district in MA.  If we took them all and have a solid majority in the House it won&#8217;t matter if they stray occasionally.  It&#8217;s when we&#8217;re in the woods that it matters.</p>
<p>For example, neither Snowe or Collins has ever cast real vote that hurt us until Specter went totally off the reservation and they followed.  I&#8217;m reasonably sure that if Specter had voted NO, they would have as well.  Leaders they ain&#8217;t.  And they&#8217;re not fighters either.  </p>
<p>If House and Senate Rs understood that the legislative priorities had to be held and that there would be serious consequences for squirreling on those, squishies from lefty districts would not be an issue.  But, of course, that would require leadership.  Something I&#8217;ve only seen twice in my life &#8211; Reagan and Newt.  Neither of the Bushes could lead an addict to drugs, nor could any other national party &#8220;leader&#8221; we&#8217;ve seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to compete in 435 House districts and for 100 Senate seats.  We won&#039;t win them all, but we won&#039;t let the Democrats just go unopposed, saving their resources to attack *our* seats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to compete in 435 House districts and for 100 Senate seats.  We won&#8217;t win them all, but we won&#8217;t let the Democrats just go unopposed, saving their resources to attack *our* seats.</p>
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		<title>By: Swamp_Yankee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swamp_Yankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What good does just quitting do. If nothing else force them to use resources. I’d rather have a viable Republican Party in a Blue state like Michigan than take your advice and just not show up like Massachusetts. 

One, you force the Dems to use valuable resources and that helps in other races. 

Two, you never know what the future holds. States do turn, just not in one election cycle. You have to go Purple before you go Red. See how the Dems captured Red states, not by insisting that they run and vote like New Yorkers.

Three, states are the laboratories of democracy. We get to see what works and what doesn’t by watching races and politicians in other states Wisconsin is a Blue-purple state, but they taught us how to win welfare reform. California is a Blue state, but they taught us how to win gay marriage. Jodi Rell maintains extraordinarily high approval numbers for a Republican in New England; her tone, style, approach and popularity can help Simmons defeat Dodd. Gov. Carcieri won twice in RI even though he is pro-life and can show the way for pro-lifers to run and win in Blue states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What good does just quitting do. If nothing else force them to use resources. I’d rather have a viable Republican Party in a Blue state like Michigan than take your advice and just not show up like Massachusetts. </p>
<p>One, you force the Dems to use valuable resources and that helps in other races. </p>
<p>Two, you never know what the future holds. States do turn, just not in one election cycle. You have to go Purple before you go Red. See how the Dems captured Red states, not by insisting that they run and vote like New Yorkers.</p>
<p>Three, states are the laboratories of democracy. We get to see what works and what doesn’t by watching races and politicians in other states Wisconsin is a Blue-purple state, but they taught us how to win welfare reform. California is a Blue state, but they taught us how to win gay marriage. Jodi Rell maintains extraordinarily high approval numbers for a Republican in New England; her tone, style, approach and popularity can help Simmons defeat Dodd. Gov. Carcieri won twice in RI even though he is pro-life and can show the way for pro-lifers to run and win in Blue states.</p>
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		<title>By: IJB</title>
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		<dc:creator>IJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...And focusing on places we can/should win. 

Trying to elect Republicans in places like San Francisco &amp; Cambridge, MA is a total waste of time and effort - what you end up with are guys not worth having in the first place. 

Rather than wasting time keeping losers like Reichart afloat (it&#039;s a waste of time, money and effort), I&#039;d rather concentrate efforts on taking people like Pomeroy of ND *out* - places like ND is where we *should* be winning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;And focusing on places we can/should win. </p>
<p>Trying to elect Republicans in places like San Francisco &amp; Cambridge, MA is a total waste of time and effort &#8211; what you end up with are guys not worth having in the first place. </p>
<p>Rather than wasting time keeping losers like Reichart afloat (it&#8217;s a waste of time, money and effort), I&#8217;d rather concentrate efforts on taking people like Pomeroy of ND *out* &#8211; places like ND is where we *should* be winning.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for fighting hard for seats that we can demand certain standards for (Florida Senate is another), but I&#039;m not about to start being an intruder into some of the left fringes of the country and demand they elect Barry Goldwater&#039;s ghost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for fighting hard for seats that we can demand certain standards for (Florida Senate is another), but I&#8217;m not about to start being an intruder into some of the left fringes of the country and demand they elect Barry Goldwater&#8217;s ghost.</p>
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		<title>By: IJB</title>
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		<dc:creator>IJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the District is so far Left that a reasonable approximation of a Republican can&#039;t win there, then let the Dems have it. 

What we should be doing instead, is trying to win back all the truly Red &amp; Purple districts. 

If this is the price of keeping a &#039;Blue&#039; district, I&#039;d rather punt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the District is so far Left that a reasonable approximation of a Republican can&#8217;t win there, then let the Dems have it. </p>
<p>What we should be doing instead, is trying to win back all the truly Red &amp; Purple districts. </p>
<p>If this is the price of keeping a &#8216;Blue&#8217; district, I&#8217;d rather punt.</p>
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		<title>By: bs</title>
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		<dc:creator>bs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to this disaster coming from the Dem WH and Congress is a stretch of the grandest scale.  Virtually no one here agreed with a lot of that stuff, but all one must do is look at the graphs of Obama/Reid/Pelosi&#039;s spendfest to see that there&#039;s no comparison between now and the Bush years.

Nice try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to this disaster coming from the Dem WH and Congress is a stretch of the grandest scale.  Virtually no one here agreed with a lot of that stuff, but all one must do is look at the graphs of Obama/Reid/Pelosi&#8217;s spendfest to see that there&#8217;s no comparison between now and the Bush years.</p>
<p>Nice try.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Erick Erickson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erick Erickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Were the caucus full of these people, I&#039;d agree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were the caucus full of these people, I&#8217;d agree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Swamp_Yankee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swamp_Yankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boehner:

I was impressed wit him on the floor, but I am still disappointed by the lack of organization preceding the vote. The official schedule and Pelosi’s staff confirmed that a vote would take place by the end of the week last Monday. It would have been nice to see some leadership before Thursday afternoon.

McConnell:

Isn’t it a bit unfair to compare the two? The Senate is known as the most exclusive club in the world. That may suck, but it’s the nature of the body. There are only 100 seats; incumbents are so hard to unseat; and six years terms make long term relationship building natural and essential. 

McConnell does have a reputation of being a master of Senate procedures. I know all the cheerleading, but in reality our best weapons during these precarious years are delaying, stalling and sabotaging legislation. He may not be glamorous, but he may be useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boehner:</p>
<p>I was impressed wit him on the floor, but I am still disappointed by the lack of organization preceding the vote. The official schedule and Pelosi’s staff confirmed that a vote would take place by the end of the week last Monday. It would have been nice to see some leadership before Thursday afternoon.</p>
<p>McConnell:</p>
<p>Isn’t it a bit unfair to compare the two? The Senate is known as the most exclusive club in the world. That may suck, but it’s the nature of the body. There are only 100 seats; incumbents are so hard to unseat; and six years terms make long term relationship building natural and essential. </p>
<p>McConnell does have a reputation of being a master of Senate procedures. I know all the cheerleading, but in reality our best weapons during these precarious years are delaying, stalling and sabotaging legislation. He may not be glamorous, but he may be useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There needs to be more moral outrage at the actions of the ObamaDems every day and not just intermittent. McConnell has also had good moments as have others in Congress, but

the consistent ones are rare (Sessions, DeMint, Ryan....others?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There needs to be more moral outrage at the actions of the ObamaDems every day and not just intermittent. McConnell has also had good moments as have others in Congress, but</p>
<p>the consistent ones are rare (Sessions, DeMint, Ryan&#8230;.others?)</p>
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		<title>By: Swamp_Yankee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swamp_Yankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad others see the suicidal nature of discarding everyone who is not a &quot;solid Red&quot; conservative.  Sure, our pols can use their office as a bully pulpit for the purpose of persuasion, but in the end they are exactly what their title says they are - &quot;representatives&quot;. They were voted into Congress to represent the interests of their constituents; the people who voted for them; their neighbors – not ideologues located a thousand miles from their district or to be masters to their party bosses. That’s how our Republic was organized. 

And I don’t care for the eight. It’s just refreshing to read a different perspective. 

Conservatives should have been thrilled with Sununu (a 93% lifetime ACU rating), but he showed his independent streak from time to time (often rhetorical and not substantive) to show NH voters that he was no a lackey for the GOP bosses (NH voters are very indpendent) and  he was treated like an afterthought by the base out West and down South. 

He voted to the Right of the NH populace and what&#039;s he got to show for it; a kick in the teeth from the self-righteous base and a punch in the stomach from the NH voters. 

There will be a handful that will betray the Party line on environmental issues; there will be a few that betray the party line on abortion; there will be a few that betray the party line on Iraq; and so on and so on. 

And they will not always be the same people. We are not monolithic. Insisting on complete party discipline all the time is nearly impossible. If we throw five or ten defectors out after every key vote, they will be no party left.  

Educate, not excoriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad others see the suicidal nature of discarding everyone who is not a &#8220;solid Red&#8221; conservative.  Sure, our pols can use their office as a bully pulpit for the purpose of persuasion, but in the end they are exactly what their title says they are &#8211; &#8220;representatives&#8221;. They were voted into Congress to represent the interests of their constituents; the people who voted for them; their neighbors – not ideologues located a thousand miles from their district or to be masters to their party bosses. That’s how our Republic was organized. </p>
<p>And I don’t care for the eight. It’s just refreshing to read a different perspective. </p>
<p>Conservatives should have been thrilled with Sununu (a 93% lifetime ACU rating), but he showed his independent streak from time to time (often rhetorical and not substantive) to show NH voters that he was no a lackey for the GOP bosses (NH voters are very indpendent) and  he was treated like an afterthought by the base out West and down South. </p>
<p>He voted to the Right of the NH populace and what&#8217;s he got to show for it; a kick in the teeth from the self-righteous base and a punch in the stomach from the NH voters. </p>
<p>There will be a handful that will betray the Party line on environmental issues; there will be a few that betray the party line on abortion; there will be a few that betray the party line on Iraq; and so on and so on. </p>
<p>And they will not always be the same people. We are not monolithic. Insisting on complete party discipline all the time is nearly impossible. If we throw five or ten defectors out after every key vote, they will be no party left.  </p>
<p>Educate, not excoriate.</p>
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		<title>By: briann</title>
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		<dc:creator>briann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Some Republicans have to vote in ways the majority of us find detestable in order to stay in Congress.&lt;/i&gt;

Sorry Eric, but I don&#039;t agree with this. A Republican majority that spends money they don&#039;t have, raises taxes in a recession and regularly violates the law is indistinguishable from what we have now. I&#039;m more interested in a successful United States that Republicans in charge of a mess.

-Bri</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Some Republicans have to vote in ways the majority of us find detestable in order to stay in Congress.</i></p>
<p>Sorry Eric, but I don&#8217;t agree with this. A Republican majority that spends money they don&#8217;t have, raises taxes in a recession and regularly violates the law is indistinguishable from what we have now. I&#8217;m more interested in a successful United States that Republicans in charge of a mess.</p>
<p>-Bri</p>
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