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	<title>Comments on: BREAKING: House Democrats Shut GOP Entirely Out of Process</title>
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		<title>By: davo119</title>
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		<dc:creator>davo119</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hole the democrats are digging for themselves is starting to look like a bottomless pit. At some point the obvious becomes... well, obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hole the democrats are digging for themselves is starting to look like a bottomless pit. At some point the obvious becomes&#8230; well, obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: ddstrain</title>
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		<dc:creator>ddstrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sits quite snuggly between Communism and Fascism and oscillates back and form so as to resemble both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sits quite snuggly between Communism and Fascism and oscillates back and form so as to resemble both.</p>
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		<title>By: TNJim</title>
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		<dc:creator>TNJim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tsquare</title>
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		<dc:creator>tsquare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;wag the dog?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;wag the dog?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: David Hinz</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Hinz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. In conflict tactics there are certain rules that [should be regarded] as universalities. One is that the opposition must be singled out as the target and ‘frozen.’…

“…any target can always say, ‘Why do you center on me when there are others to blame as well?’ When your ‘freeze the target,’ you disregard these [rational but distracting] arguments…. Then, as you zero in and freeze your target and carry out your attack, all the ‘others’ come out of the woodwork very soon. They become visible by their support of the target…’

“One acts decisively only in the conviction that all the angels are on one side and all the devils on the other.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. In conflict tactics there are certain rules that [should be regarded] as universalities. One is that the opposition must be singled out as the target and ‘frozen.’…</p>
<p>“…any target can always say, ‘Why do you center on me when there are others to blame as well?’ When your ‘freeze the target,’ you disregard these [rational but distracting] arguments…. Then, as you zero in and freeze your target and carry out your attack, all the ‘others’ come out of the woodwork very soon. They become visible by their support of the target…’</p>
<p>“One acts decisively only in the conviction that all the angels are on one side and all the devils on the other.”</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: JLenardDetroit</title>
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		<dc:creator>JLenardDetroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;I have an entire Network that does nothing but oppose me&#039; (or some BULL like that, O&#039;Reilly and Greta both had segments on it too)....

While 99% of Print Media and all the other TV Networks want to put on the Blue Dress for Obama... and they will launder it, to erase the evidence!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;I have an entire Network that does nothing but oppose me&#8217; (or some BULL like that, O&#8217;Reilly and Greta both had segments on it too)&#8230;.</p>
<p>While 99% of Print Media and all the other TV Networks want to put on the Blue Dress for Obama&#8230; and they will launder it, to erase the evidence!!!</p>
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		<title>By: JLenardDetroit</title>
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		<dc:creator>JLenardDetroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They (MSM) will keep on with the deflection/distraction narratives:

&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
FROM: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redstate.com/blog/2009/06/16/good-newsbad-news/#comment-50591&quot;&gt;Erickson&#039;s: Good news/Bad News&lt;/a&gt; Diary

It will be all about questioning why so many Republicans after 8 years of Bush would all of a sudden want to NOT fund the War Bill! It will be all about the 5 Republicans that joined with the Democrats and nothing to do with the 32. It will be all about how those courageous 5 avoided the blatant Partisanship of the “Party of NO” … yadda, yadda, yadda…. blah, blah, blah….

FACTS will have nothing to do with it - only the above spin… And for those not paying attention to the other Diaries and maybe not up to speed on this - it was NOTHING to do with the War funding… It was ALL ABOUT forcing this one to FAIL so that a new one could be put forth w/o the IMF BS…. &lt;b&gt;THIS VOTE was all about the IMF, not the Wars - in so far as our Government Spending and NOT bailing out Foreign Banks! It was/is all about non-germane policy decisions being rammed through that would otherwise NEVER be able to pass on its own merit! There are still so many Americans that still have NO CLUE how our Government currently works beyond how it was intended to work and are therefore susceptible to the MSM spin BS.&lt;/b&gt;

The MSM keeps playing so many Americans, including far too many people who consider themselves Conservatives (see: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redstate.com/jlenarddetroit/2009/06/02/msm-challenge/&quot;&gt;The &quot;Pretend you&#039;re a Liberal MSM reporter (and Spin the story)&quot; Challenge&lt;/a&gt;)for complete fools and they keep falling for the trap everytime. +Media feeding R infighting - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/05/31/lindsey-graham-wounded-by-sotomayors-hurtful-remarks/#comment-16633&quot;&gt;MSM uses snippets out of context to feed Republican in-fighting narrative&lt;/a&gt; additional commentary on that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/05/30/bigots-need-representation-too/#comment-1768&quot;&gt;here (speaking out against SoSo discussion)&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/05/30/bigots-need-representation-too/#comment-1765&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;

This [HR.2346] story is easy to spin by including certain facts while omitting others.

[snip]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They (MSM) will keep on with the deflection/distraction narratives:</p>
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FROM: <a href="http://www.redstate.com/blog/2009/06/16/good-newsbad-news/#comment-50591">Erickson&#8217;s: Good news/Bad News</a> Diary</p>
<p>It will be all about questioning why so many Republicans after 8 years of Bush would all of a sudden want to NOT fund the War Bill! It will be all about the 5 Republicans that joined with the Democrats and nothing to do with the 32. It will be all about how those courageous 5 avoided the blatant Partisanship of the “Party of NO” … yadda, yadda, yadda…. blah, blah, blah….</p>
<p>FACTS will have nothing to do with it &#8211; only the above spin… And for those not paying attention to the other Diaries and maybe not up to speed on this &#8211; it was NOTHING to do with the War funding… It was ALL ABOUT forcing this one to FAIL so that a new one could be put forth w/o the IMF BS…. <b>THIS VOTE was all about the IMF, not the Wars &#8211; in so far as our Government Spending and NOT bailing out Foreign Banks! It was/is all about non-germane policy decisions being rammed through that would otherwise NEVER be able to pass on its own merit! There are still so many Americans that still have NO CLUE how our Government currently works beyond how it was intended to work and are therefore susceptible to the MSM spin BS.</b></p>
<p>The MSM keeps playing so many Americans, including far too many people who consider themselves Conservatives (see: <a href="http://www.redstate.com/jlenarddetroit/2009/06/02/msm-challenge/">The &#8220;Pretend you&#8217;re a Liberal MSM reporter (and Spin the story)&#8221; Challenge</a>)for complete fools and they keep falling for the trap everytime. +Media feeding R infighting &#8211; <a href="http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/05/31/lindsey-graham-wounded-by-sotomayors-hurtful-remarks/#comment-16633">MSM uses snippets out of context to feed Republican in-fighting narrative</a> additional commentary on that <a href="http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/05/30/bigots-need-representation-too/#comment-1768">here (speaking out against SoSo discussion)</a> and <a href="http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2009/05/30/bigots-need-representation-too/#comment-1765">here</a></p>
<p>This [HR.2346] story is easy to spin by including certain facts while omitting others.</p>
<p>[snip]
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		<title>By: TNJim</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/06/16/breaking-house-democrats-shut-gop-entirely-out-of-process/comment-page-1/#comment-25172</link>
		<dc:creator>TNJim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t found anything yet that speaks of this. Looks like the presstitutes are carrying out their assigned duties pretty good so far.

Hey Erick, how did you hear about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t found anything yet that speaks of this. Looks like the presstitutes are carrying out their assigned duties pretty good so far.</p>
<p>Hey Erick, how did you hear about it?</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny Solomon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenny Solomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote a diary last evening, but it fits right here a bit more gooder........in this slot........ c&#039;mon...... get in there....... &#039;plink&#039;.

http://www.redstate.com/etcartman/2009/06/15/notice-is-hereby-delivered

Knew it would be a snug fit, but it&#039;s in there.

Yes, I really did send it in hard copy to those who work for us..... and a few news outlets as well.

Cheers !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote a diary last evening, but it fits right here a bit more gooder&#8230;&#8230;..in this slot&#8230;&#8230;.. c&#8217;mon&#8230;&#8230; get in there&#8230;&#8230;. &#8216;plink&#8217;.</p>
<p>http://www.redstate.com/etcartman/2009/06/15/notice-is-hereby-delivered</p>
<p>Knew it would be a snug fit, but it&#8217;s in there.</p>
<p>Yes, I really did send it in hard copy to those who work for us&#8230;.. and a few news outlets as well.</p>
<p>Cheers !</p>
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		<title>By: DONTREADONME</title>
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		<dc:creator>DONTREADONME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>with it.  Why not continue to shut out the Republicans from debate no one is going to call them on it, nor will the MSM tell the American people.  Now is the time to go on the permanent campaign and use the Democrats actions as a campaign platform or as evidence of the typical SOP for elected Dems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with it.  Why not continue to shut out the Republicans from debate no one is going to call them on it, nor will the MSM tell the American people.  Now is the time to go on the permanent campaign and use the Democrats actions as a campaign platform or as evidence of the typical SOP for elected Dems.</p>
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		<title>By: applycs</title>
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		<dc:creator>applycs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nancy Pelosi : “Elect us, hold us accountable, and make a judgment and then go from there. But I do tell you that if the Democrats win and have substantial majorities, Congress of the United States will be more bipartisan.”

And so it goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy Pelosi : “Elect us, hold us accountable, and make a judgment and then go from there. But I do tell you that if the Democrats win and have substantial majorities, Congress of the United States will be more bipartisan.”</p>
<p>And so it goes.</p>
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		<title>By: TNJim</title>
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		<dc:creator>TNJim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I have another question: This is just spending bills for now, but how long before R&#039;s are shut out of all debate? Healthcare comes to mind right off, but that&#039;s really just a huge spending bill in a not so good disguise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I have another question: This is just spending bills for now, but how long before R&#8217;s are shut out of all debate? Healthcare comes to mind right off, but that&#8217;s really just a huge spending bill in a not so good disguise.</p>
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		<title>By: DONTREADONME</title>
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		<dc:creator>DONTREADONME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SouthernCross</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernCross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RINO&#039;s who tow the Demo Party Line...lets actually do something this time around and get the people in office who actually have our interests at heart!

A pipe dream I know, but it can happen if we really try....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RINO&#8217;s who tow the Demo Party Line&#8230;lets actually do something this time around and get the people in office who actually have our interests at heart!</p>
<p>A pipe dream I know, but it can happen if we really try&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernCross</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernCross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Senate Republicans should stick up for their House brethren and shut down the Senate as the House GOP is now pretty much powerless.&quot;
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What the Republicans need to do is turn this into a campaign commericial for every seat in the House and those in the Senate up for re-election in 2010. Forget this solidarity crap, that simply won&#039;t happen and means nothing...

Americans will not remember this type of abuse of power unless they are reminded of it over and over. Come the fall of 2010, no one will remember this or any other abuse of power/corruption on the part of the Corruptocrats unless they are reminded day after day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Senate Republicans should stick up for their House brethren and shut down the Senate as the House GOP is now pretty much powerless.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>What the Republicans need to do is turn this into a campaign commericial for every seat in the House and those in the Senate up for re-election in 2010. Forget this solidarity crap, that simply won&#8217;t happen and means nothing&#8230;</p>
<p>Americans will not remember this type of abuse of power unless they are reminded of it over and over. Come the fall of 2010, no one will remember this or any other abuse of power/corruption on the part of the Corruptocrats unless they are reminded day after day!</p>
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		<title>By: mbecker908</title>
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		<dc:creator>mbecker908</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The *** wipes who pass for Republicans - and especially the so-called leadership - should get their noses rubbed in it big time.  Hopefully it will be obvious enough that the Dems have no use for anybody else the message will stick and we won&#039;t have to listed to fricking Oren Hatch talking about his Democratic &quot;friends&quot;.

Enjoy it folks.  You damn well better learn from it.  Jerks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The *** wipes who pass for Republicans &#8211; and especially the so-called leadership &#8211; should get their noses rubbed in it big time.  Hopefully it will be obvious enough that the Dems have no use for anybody else the message will stick and we won&#8217;t have to listed to fricking Oren Hatch talking about his Democratic &#8220;friends&#8221;.</p>
<p>Enjoy it folks.  You damn well better learn from it.  Jerks.</p>
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		<title>By: ggross56</title>
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		<dc:creator>ggross56</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what I call Pelosi in &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.letfreedomringblog.com/?p=4952&#039;&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/b&gt; She&#039;s apparently more comfortable with Putin&#039;s Russia than with Jeffersonian Democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what I call Pelosi in <b><a href='http://www.letfreedomringblog.com/?p=4952'>this post</a>.</b> She&#8217;s apparently more comfortable with Putin&#8217;s Russia than with Jeffersonian Democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: JLenardDetroit</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/06/16/breaking-house-democrats-shut-gop-entirely-out-of-process/comment-page-1/#comment-25158</link>
		<dc:creator>JLenardDetroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>holding Townhalls explaining what is going on in DC rather than be there when they have ZERO say in anything that is happening... At least, taking turns trading off being out of DC and back in Districts.... They all have mutltiple methods of communication to reach each other and quick transport back to DC should they need to be called back by FELLOW CONSERVATIVES in order to help Pass/Block proper/good legislation (as if we&#039;ll see any of that come out of Pelosi/Reid/Frank/Dodd/ObamaBinBiden).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holding Townhalls explaining what is going on in DC rather than be there when they have ZERO say in anything that is happening&#8230; At least, taking turns trading off being out of DC and back in Districts&#8230;. They all have mutltiple methods of communication to reach each other and quick transport back to DC should they need to be called back by FELLOW CONSERVATIVES in order to help Pass/Block proper/good legislation (as if we&#8217;ll see any of that come out of Pelosi/Reid/Frank/Dodd/ObamaBinBiden).</p>
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		<title>By: TNJim</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/06/16/breaking-house-democrats-shut-gop-entirely-out-of-process/comment-page-1/#comment-25155</link>
		<dc:creator>TNJim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>voice (Phil Roe R-TN01) won&#039;t be heard on these spending bills I&#039;m being taxed and not represented? Yeah, I thought so.

Now another question, what flavor of socialism is this? Communism? Fascism?

I do like DTOM&#039;s idea above about the House R&#039;s Hey, spending their time on the news channels when it comes up for a vote and telling the American people why they&#039;re on the news instead of voting for something they had no say in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>voice (Phil Roe R-TN01) won&#8217;t be heard on these spending bills I&#8217;m being taxed and not represented? Yeah, I thought so.</p>
<p>Now another question, what flavor of socialism is this? Communism? Fascism?</p>
<p>I do like DTOM&#8217;s idea above about the House R&#8217;s Hey, spending their time on the news channels when it comes up for a vote and telling the American people why they&#8217;re on the news instead of voting for something they had no say in.</p>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when the divorce comes.
The producers will have had enough. We will not pay anymore federal taxes to support the obscene spending.  If we have no representation then they won&#039;t have any taxes. Plain &amp; simple. 
Imagine an America where 60% of the population devolves into something that looks like Iran. Those politicians that shut out the other side will be the first that gets a pitchfolk up the rear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when the divorce comes.<br />
The producers will have had enough. We will not pay anymore federal taxes to support the obscene spending.  If we have no representation then they won&#8217;t have any taxes. Plain &amp; simple.<br />
Imagine an America where 60% of the population devolves into something that looks like Iran. Those politicians that shut out the other side will be the first that gets a pitchfolk up the rear.</p>
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